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Still pretty amazing that RM beat Barca with a "B" team.I wonder if they start re-thinking their no real CB strategy next season.

 
Anyone been to a Houston Dynamo game? I got tickets to the match tonight and plan to head down a few hours early and hang out (Lucky's?). My first soccer match!

 
'Ignoramus said:
Anyone been to a Houston Dynamo game? I got tickets to the match tonight and plan to head down a few hours early and hang out (Lucky's?). My first soccer match!
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That is great. I have not been but I heard the new stadium is fun to take in a game. I will be watching that game on TV tonight on NBCSN.Let us know what you think of the stadium and game. Houston should have a solid team again this year and many are predicting another deep run.
 
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All MLS games are being aired on TV this weekend as the PPV packages are all free for the first weekend.DISH and Direct TV carry the package along with any cable system that uses In Demand

 
Philly is destroying kc through the first 20 minutes. Back line is all over the place, Philly is beating the trap with ease. Le Toux just had a pretty sweet goal. He is a really nice player.

 
'Moe. said:
Philly is destroying kc through the first 20 minutes. Back line is all over the place, Philly is beating the trap with ease. Le Toux just had a pretty sweet goal. He is a really nice player.
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fun game to watch. Philly dominated for 35 minutes but missed a couple of chances to go up by more. Then KC scores against the run of play and they then dominate for the next 30-35 minutes including taking the lead. Zusi with a goal and a perfect free kick assist for the go ahead goal.Philly now pressing to try and get the draw in the last 10 minutes.
 
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Wow, Zusi looks great.Made a fantastic long run, collects it and puts in a perfect cross that is knocked back to Bieler who clinically finishes, 3-1 KC now.Very impressive considering they were being played off the park in the first half.

 
'jonessed said:
Still pretty amazing that RM beat Barca with a "B" team.I wonder if they start re-thinking their no real CB strategy next season.
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They do have good reserves. The only guy they ran out there today who isn't that great is Essien, even Kaka's been playing well.One problem was solved by playing Villa instead of Fabregas, I think that gave Iniesta the room he needed to operate. He controlled things in the midfield today, whereas Thiago played something of a secondary role.The CB's are a problem, and Alves' commitment to defense are a problem. It's starting to get absurd at this point. He either needs to be sold or just converted into a winger and make it official.
 
Looking forward to getting Gus' thoughts on the Arsenal takeover tomorrow morning.http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/mar/03/middle-east-takeover-arsenal

 
BC Place is awesome. The Vancouver fans are great. I had a few at the bar woth the main group and did the 2 kilometer march to the stadium. The supporters sevtion sang the entire 90. It was great to march with them and see them do their thing in their section. I sat right in the middle in the 15th row. Amazing seats. The crowd was a little disappointing though. Hopes were raised high hanging with the supporters, then my section sat on their hands the whole game. Place was full though and the goal celebration and final whistle were well celebrated.

 
Got back from PPL a little while ago. Froze my jacobs off for two hours to watch the home side come out looking great and then immediately losing the plot after giving up the tying goal at 40 minutes. The Beth Steel jerseys looked great, but I'm afraid this could be a loooooong soul-crushing season in the City Near The City of Brotherly Love.

 
'Christo said:
'CletiusMaximus said:
Looking forward to getting Gus' thoughts on the Arsenal takeover tomorrow morning.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/mar/03/middle-east-takeover-arsenal
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TAKEOVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Or not.
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The proposed valuation of the club is double what it was estimated at just two years ago and then "the consortium" are going to lower ticket prices, pay off $250B in debt, AND offer a giant transfer fund on top of that? They would essentially be paying market value and then burning $1B for fun on top of it.I can somewhat understand why a mega-wealthy individual would buy a team to blow money on, but why would a consortium of people want to blow money on one? If there is any truth to this I'm guessing their is one person behind it and "the consortium" is a smokescreen.

Oil money and soccer make for some really odd combinations, but all of this coming out the day before the North London Derby just seems odd.

 
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'Ted Lange as your Bartender said:
Got back from PPL a little while ago. Froze my jacobs off for two hours to watch the home side come out looking great and then immediately losing the plot after giving up the tying goal at 40 minutes. The Beth Steel jerseys looked great, but I'm afraid this could be a loooooong soul-crushing season in the City Near The City of Brotherly Love.
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They can not fix the team until they figure out the Adu situation which is just killing the roster. I know it is a tough bullet to take, but I think they hold have bought out Adu and been done with it.
 
I realize that most leagues around the world outside of probably England and Germany have one or two teams that draw badly. That being said, Chivas USA is an embarrassment to the league. After the brilliant marketing scheme of literally giving away players because they were not of Mexican heritage in the preseason, they opened up at home tonight in perfect weather and if there were 2500 fans in the stands I would be surprised. The announced attendance was over 7k but there was much less in the stands. And they got smoked 3-0 by an average Columbus side to top it off. Although maybe the total disintegration of this team will finally force Vegera to sell and move the team to another city and start over.

 
'Sebowski said:
BC Place is awesome. The Vancouver fans are great. I had a few at the bar woth the main group and did the 2 kilometer march to the stadium. The supporters sevtion sang the entire 90. It was great to march with them and see them do their thing in their section. I sat right in the middle in the 15th row. Amazing seats. The crowd was a little disappointing though. Hopes were raised high hanging with the supporters, then my section sat on their hands the whole game. Place was full though and the goal celebration and final whistle were well celebrated.
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I forgot to comment on the game....I was excited to watch Demeritt in person. Hate seeing him hurt so early. Non contact knee injury always makes me think ACL. Mattocks was lazy out there. Wasnt in a rush to stay onside, mssed a lot of runs, and general laziness.Coker was an obvious talent upgrade when he fit the field Miller is a worker. All over the place. Missed a bunch of chances, but watching him work so hard to even get tp the chance gave him a bit of a pass. This game totally changed at the half. Seemed like Vancouver had 75% possesion in the 2nd. It will be interesting to see if Toronto is as bad as they looked in the 2nd.
 
'NewlyRetired said:
I realize that most leagues around the world outside of probably England and Germany have one or two teams that draw badly. That being said, Chivas USA is an embarrassment to the league. After the brilliant marketing scheme of literally giving away players because they were not of Mexican heritage in the preseason, they opened up at home tonight in perfect weather and if there were 2500 fans in the stands I would be surprised. The announced attendance was over 7k but there was much less in the stands. And they got smoked 3-0 by an average Columbus side to top it off. Although maybe the total disintegration of this team will finally force Vegera to sell and move the team to another city and start over.
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What was interesting was contrasting that game with the Seattle game happening at the same time. Made the HDC look that much more pathetic
 
There was a goal recently scored and I can't remember who but I saw a gif of it. I believe it was a red jersey, it was a free kick and had a wicked swerve coming in from right to left. The gif is a view from directly behind it. Any help here?

 
'NewlyRetired said:
I realize that most leagues around the world outside of probably England and Germany have one or two teams that draw badly. That being said, Chivas USA is an embarrassment to the league.

After the brilliant marketing scheme of literally giving away players because they were not of Mexican heritage in the preseason, they opened up at home tonight in perfect weather and if there were 2500 fans in the stands I would be surprised. The announced attendance was over 7k but there was much less in the stands. And they got smoked 3-0 by an average Columbus side to top it off.

Although maybe the total disintegration of this team will finally force Vegera to sell and move the team to another city and start over.
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Given the success and popularity of the Galaxy, I don't know why MLS tried to jam Chivas USA into Los Angeles as well. It should have been San Diego, or even somewhere in Orange County, perhaps, the league wanted to create a Southern California rivalry.
 
'The Kansas Comet said:
'NewlyRetired said:
I realize that most leagues around the world outside of probably England and Germany have one or two teams that draw badly. That being said, Chivas USA is an embarrassment to the league.

After the brilliant marketing scheme of literally giving away players because they were not of Mexican heritage in the preseason, they opened up at home tonight in perfect weather and if there were 2500 fans in the stands I would be surprised. The announced attendance was over 7k but there was much less in the stands. And they got smoked 3-0 by an average Columbus side to top it off.

Although maybe the total disintegration of this team will finally force Vegera to sell and move the team to another city and start over.
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Given the success and popularity of the Galaxy, I don't know why MLS tried to jam Chivas USA into Los Angeles as well. It should have been San Diego, or even somewhere in Orange County, perhaps, the league wanted to create a Southern California rivalry.
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Wasn't it two-fold? Demographics--try to tap into the Latinos in SoCal. And try to create a "derby" atmosphere like Liverpool-Everton, ManU-Citeh, Spurs-Gunners-Chelsea.
 
Arsenal dominating the first half, but their defense falls apart twice at the end and Bale, then Lennon punish them.Nothing spectacular, but Tottenham had two chances and two good finishes. Arsenal's play of a high line against Bale and Lennon is odd. It worked for a bit, but they don't have the back-line speed to keep up on a decent through-ball.

 
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Canada is crazy. They were showing the Man U and Chelsea games at the same time yesterday morming. Now one of those channels is showing curling reruns while the other is showing early an 90s Blue Jays game. You cant make this stuff up.

 
Bale misses a sitter and Siggy misses a one-on-one. This game is wide open. Arsenal with possession and Tottenham breaking.Edit: Typical derby game; lots of pressing, nerves, fouls, and tension. What a nail biter!

 
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'The Kansas Comet said:
'NewlyRetired said:
I realize that most leagues around the world outside of probably England and Germany have one or two teams that draw badly. That being said, Chivas USA is an embarrassment to the league.

After the brilliant marketing scheme of literally giving away players because they were not of Mexican heritage in the preseason, they opened up at home tonight in perfect weather and if there were 2500 fans in the stands I would be surprised. The announced attendance was over 7k but there was much less in the stands. And they got smoked 3-0 by an average Columbus side to top it off.

Although maybe the total disintegration of this team will finally force Vegera to sell and move the team to another city and start over.
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Given the success and popularity of the Galaxy, I don't know why MLS tried to jam Chivas USA into Los Angeles as well. It should have been San Diego, or even somewhere in Orange County, perhaps, the league wanted to create a Southern California rivalry.
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I think it came down to the stadium. HDC was already built and Vegera did not want to fund a new stadium when in his mind he could rent one pretty cheap in the dead middle of what he expected would be his core fan base.Sad but I think for the league to prosper, we might almost want Chivas to completely implode on and off the field. Take a hit in the attendance this year to force the board of Governors to take a long hard look at whether they should continue this charade or force a sale and move.

 
'Christo said:
'The Kansas Comet said:
'NewlyRetired said:
I realize that most leagues around the world outside of probably England and Germany have one or two teams that draw badly. That being said, Chivas USA is an embarrassment to the league.

After the brilliant marketing scheme of literally giving away players because they were not of Mexican heritage in the preseason, they opened up at home tonight in perfect weather and if there were 2500 fans in the stands I would be surprised. The announced attendance was over 7k but there was much less in the stands. And they got smoked 3-0 by an average Columbus side to top it off.

Although maybe the total disintegration of this team will finally force Vegera to sell and move the team to another city and start over.
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Given the success and popularity of the Galaxy, I don't know why MLS tried to jam Chivas USA into Los Angeles as well. It should have been San Diego, or even somewhere in Orange County, perhaps, the league wanted to create a Southern California rivalry.
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Wasn't it two-fold? Demographics--try to tap into the Latinos in SoCal. And try to create a "derby" atmosphere like Liverpool-Everton, ManU-Citeh, Spurs-Gunners-Chelsea.
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We don't have that here though. The only big intra-city rivalries are in NY and those teams don't even play each other much. The big rivalries here are inter-city.I don't see them moving to San Diego now though. Not unless the Chargers leave anyway. Not enough money for a stadium.

 
'jonessed said:
'Christo said:
'The Kansas Comet said:
'NewlyRetired said:
I realize that most leagues around the world outside of probably England and Germany have one or two teams that draw badly. That being said, Chivas USA is an embarrassment to the league.

After the brilliant marketing scheme of literally giving away players because they were not of Mexican heritage in the preseason, they opened up at home tonight in perfect weather and if there were 2500 fans in the stands I would be surprised. The announced attendance was over 7k but there was much less in the stands. And they got smoked 3-0 by an average Columbus side to top it off.

Although maybe the total disintegration of this team will finally force Vegera to sell and move the team to another city and start over.
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Given the success and popularity of the Galaxy, I don't know why MLS tried to jam Chivas USA into Los Angeles as well. It should have been San Diego, or even somewhere in Orange County, perhaps, the league wanted to create a Southern California rivalry.
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Wasn't it two-fold? Demographics--try to tap into the Latinos in SoCal. And try to create a "derby" atmosphere like Liverpool-Everton, ManU-Citeh, Spurs-Gunners-Chelsea.
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We don't have that here though. The only big intra-city rivalries are in NY and those teams don't even play each other much. The big rivalries here are inter-city.I don't see them moving to San Diego now though. Not unless the Chargers leave anyway. Not enough money for a stadium.
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There are a handful of choices1) Buy them out, fold the franchise and award an expansion franchise to Orlando

2) Force Vergara to sell to Orlando and they can take the players and staff and blend them into Orlando City how ever they want

3) See if they can dig themselves out of this mammoth hole they have gotten themselves into both on and off the field.

Normally I would roll my eyes at #3, but seeing how KC came back from the dead into an almost model franchise, I guess anything is possible.

 
'jonessed said:
'Christo said:
'The Kansas Comet said:
'NewlyRetired said:
I realize that most leagues around the world outside of probably England and Germany have one or two teams that draw badly. That being said, Chivas USA is an embarrassment to the league.

After the brilliant marketing scheme of literally giving away players because they were not of Mexican heritage in the preseason, they opened up at home tonight in perfect weather and if there were 2500 fans in the stands I would be surprised. The announced attendance was over 7k but there was much less in the stands. And they got smoked 3-0 by an average Columbus side to top it off.

Although maybe the total disintegration of this team will finally force Vegera to sell and move the team to another city and start over.
Click to expand...
Given the success and popularity of the Galaxy, I don't know why MLS tried to jam Chivas USA into Los Angeles as well. It should have been San Diego, or even somewhere in Orange County, perhaps, the league wanted to create a Southern California rivalry.
Click to expand...
Wasn't it two-fold? Demographics--try to tap into the Latinos in SoCal. And try to create a "derby" atmosphere like Liverpool-Everton, ManU-Citeh, Spurs-Gunners-Chelsea.
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We don't have that here though. The only big intra-city rivalries are in NY and those teams don't even play each other much. The big rivalries here are inter-city.I don't see them moving to San Diego now though. Not unless the Chargers leave anyway. Not enough money for a stadium.
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The only thing stopping US derbies from being great is the fact that the powers that be have put the rivals in different conferences/leagues. Giants-Jets/Yankees-Mets/Cubs-Sox. These rivalries would be just as fierce as the EPL rivalries if there wasn't the split. And MLS has the opportunity to create that in NY and LA. Maybe even Chicago eventually with a Northside/Southside rivalry.
 
'Good said:
Piers Morgan is unbearable. I think Bin Laden is the second-worst person to ever be an Arsenal fan.PS:

#### Rossi
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He was basically just ranting every time he spoke. He wasn't even making sense.You can't put a die-hard fan into a sports analyst position like that. It makes for some awful TV.
 
'gianmarco said:
'Native said:
'Christo said:
'gianmarco said:
There was a goal recently scored and I can't remember who but I saw a gif of it. I believe it was a red jersey, it was a free kick and had a wicked swerve coming in from right to left. The gif is a view from directly behind it. Any help here?
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Suarez?
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:jawdrop:
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Yeah, exactly.
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Suarez seems to be having a better year that RVP or Bale with 21 goals and 4 assists in 27 games (RVP is 19/8/28, Bale 15/1/24). Oddsmakers have Bale as a strong favorite for PFA Player of the Year at 4/9, RVP at 9/4 and Suarez quite a ways back at 10/1.
 
'jonessed said:
'Good said:
Piers Morgan is unbearable. I think Bin Laden is the second-worst person to ever be an Arsenal fan.PS:

#### Rossi
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He was basically just ranting every time he spoke. He wasn't even making sense.You can't put a die-hard fan into a sports analyst position like that. It makes for some awful TV.He's even worse on Twitter...I only follow him because he tweets about Arsenal all the time, but 90% of them are rants and calls for Wenger to be fired. It's amazing how such an intelligent and usually well-spoken guy can just go totally off the rails when it comes to a soccer team.
 
US vs Mexico for the U20 CONCACAF Championship tonight at 7:00pm on FSCTwo revamped sides in MLS meet tonight as NY travels to Portland, on ESPN2 at 7:30pm

 
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