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I don't believe that Bob's job will or should be in jeopardy after this tournament regardless of what happens. That said, I'm not a big proponent of NT coaches lasting more than 1 WC cycle unless they wildly exceed expectations, which Bob did not do last go-round. 8 years is just too long a time to keep the same ideas and tactics in place.
Why? Often stated, but I guess I never understood this.I'm all for changing coaches if we have a better option. Bradley has made some questionable decisions over the years but the awesomeness of Dempsey, Howard, Donovan has covered a lot up IMHO.'Ted Lange as your Bartender said:
8 years is an unusually long tenure for an international manager. Bradley has been in the job for 5 years. In that time, Brazil has had two managers, Italy three, Mexico five, Cameroon six and Nigeria seven.
I am neither a fan nor a basher of Bradley. He is what he is. That being said I do very much believe that Klinnesman was a better option. My only hope with Bradley is that he knows when to cut string on veterans which is very very hard for many coaches. Gooch is going to be his first test.
I know all of this, but have never understood the Why part.Why don't international coaches last longer than 4 years?
The games are also on the Univision family of channels. Tomorrows US game is on Telefutura. If you don't get Telefutura, you can easily find English language feeds online.
Then he already failed it by playing him while he was so out of form at the last WC.
Too bad they weren't the team in all white last Saturday
Very trueThis Mexican keeper is only 16, too and she had a GREAT game. US dominated the game from beginning to end and it would have been real bummer to not come away with a win.
I did not mean for this post and my previous post about Bradley to be related but it has gotten me to thinking.Would it be easier to keep young talent in place if we had a high profile coach, say Klinssmann? What ever anyone thinks of Bradley pro or con, no one can argue that he has a very very very low profile and may be one of the least charismatic coaches ever.I don't think Klinsmann would have helped with Rossi, Najar or Subotinik, but I would bet Chandler would have a MUCH harder time telling Klinsmann he intended to play with the US and then switch back to Germany if the occasion arises.
I don't think anyone's really putting much stock into this game. Kind of a bummer for the USMNT partisans who paid money to see them get thrown to the wolves, but so it does. Spain at full strength is better than the US at full strength, but not 4 goals better.
I say Yes and Hell YesThe USA is this close to becoming good in soccer and if we dont make a change at the top we will remain above average. We will never be on the level with Brazil, but we should be able to complete against the top clubs and win more than we lose. I am sorry but Bradley is past his prime on what he can do for our squad. It is time to get a great international coach in. We have talent adn with a international coach I really think we can take the next step.'NewlyRetired said:
Depends who's coaching and what system they play.You put Messi onto the USMNT now; how good are they?
bradley and he tries to tailor the system to fit Messi.Depends who's coaching and what system they play.You put Messi onto the USMNT now; how good are they?
I'm pretty sure Bradley would at least initially try Messi out at holding MF. You know, just to see how it works.bradley and he tries to tailor the system to fit Messi.Depends who's coaching and what system they play.You put Messi onto the USMNT now; how good are they?
I'm pretty sure Bradley would at least initially try Messi out at holding MF. You know, just to see how it works.bradley and he tries to tailor the system to fit Messi.Depends who's coaching and what system they play.You put Messi onto the USMNT now; how good are they?
Sure would be nice to have Brede Hangeland about now...But hey, then we wouldn't have Stuart Holden...or Tab Ramos...or Roy Wegerle....
I'm pretty sure Bradley would at least initially try Messi out at holding MF. You know, just to see how it works.bradley and he tries to tailor the system to fit Messi.Depends who's coaching and what system they play.You put Messi onto the USMNT now; how good are they?
I disagree 1000%. Perhaps we differ on our definition of "this close", but I don't think this team is anywhere near being truly internationally competitive at this point. At least not for a number of years (I'm thinking at least 10). While I wouldn't mind having another set of eyes leading the team, a guy like Jurgen Klinsmann (for example) isn't going to fix the defensive problems or go out and score a goal a game. Outside of the midfield and GK, I really think this team is lacking. There's some prospects, sure, and I hope I'm wrong, but IMO, this team is nowhere near being able to "compete against the top clubs and win more than we lose".Could Bradley's job be in jeopardy if the US doesn't win the Gold Cup? I'm going to say probably not.Should it be? It can't hurt to talk a bit, see who's out there, etc. It should certainly be on the table.
I do realize that it is certainly give and take with this stuff. Just seems that we are on the losing end a lot lately. Guess it does not help that one of the players we lost has the markings of being the best US player in history had he chosen the US.
The only player that comes close to being world class is Howard. I love Dempsey, Donovan & Bradley for what they've accomplished (Dempsey and Bradley showed how far ahead of the rest they are in the second half of that Spain game) but they wouldn't sniff a quality national squad.
True, but this is the Gold Cup. Anything less than a win at home would be a disappointment. Failure to make the final would be a huge disappointment.
Sure, but winning the Gold Cup <> the team is capable of being able to compete against the top clubs and win more than they lose...True, but this is the Gold Cup. Anything less than a win at home would be a disappointment. Failure to make the final would be a huge disappointment.
Howard isn't any better than Dempsey. The US doesn't have a "world class" player. That doesn't mean they can't do well, it just means that they are going to beat teams like Spain, France, Germany, Italy, Brazil, Holland, etc. once in a blue moon.They really should be improving though and it doesn't appear that they are. I do think it's time to try out a new coach.
I guess I would be disappointed a bit if they don't win but when you think about it, Mexico is clearly a better team right now and the final will be played in front of 90,000 Mexican fans so it won't really be a home field like we have during qualifying.I will be very disappointed though if we get knocked out by anyone other than Mexico.
But what are we really saying here? Are we talking about the top 6-8 teams in the world? To be very fair half of those teams if they played the rest of the tops teams would not win more than they lose. What we need to get better at, is starting to become better at playing teams in the 10-20 range and winning more than we lose there. We are not quite there yet but we could be close.Sure, but winning the Gold Cup <> the team is capable of being able to compete against the top clubs and win more than they lose...True, but this is the Gold Cup. Anything less than a win at home would be a disappointment. Failure to make the final would be a huge disappointment.
I thought we had a rule of not giving Bob any more ideas on how to put out an even more defensive lineup.
And that's why I said
Is the US squarely in the top 25-30 teams in the world? I'd say so. Do they have the talent to be a solid top 15-20 team? I think so. But I don't think anyone's going to turn this team into a team that wins more games than it loses against the world's top clubs (which, in my mind, are teams like Brazil, Spain, England, Argentina, Germany, etc.). I don't consider teams like Croatia, Norway, Greece, Chile, Japan, and Ghana (teams ranked 10-15 in the most recent FIFA rankings, which I know suck, but it is what it is) to be the "top clubs" in the world. Semantics...
First, I said Howard is the only player that "comes close" to being world class. Second, I've seen non-Americans include Howard when the question of Top GKs is discussed. No one mentions Dempsey when discussing Top MFs. And I don't think anyone around here can claim to be a bigger Dempsey fan than me.
Howard is what? Top 20% of world goallies? I would probably put Dempsey around top 20% of world midfielders. It all depends on how you look at it I guess.It doesn't matter. I don't think either one is all that close to "world class". "World class" is subjective though I suppose.
World class means you'd make your national team no matter where you were born. There aren't many countries where Howard wouldn't make a 23 man WC roster. The same can't be said for Dempsey.
You are confusing being a top ten keeper in the 32 team WC vs being a top 10 keeper from thousands of clubs. I would think Howard is in the top 100 in the world for all keepers. Maybe even top 50.
I was getting ripped for supporting Freddy when his chips were down...probably top 3 in terms of ball skill on the team.I'm really looking forward to seeing him on the pitch...he's fun to watch against lesser competition.
Who was ripping you?
