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prefontaine
Footballguy
I can't believe I find myself rooting for ManU here. The lure of a complete implosion by Liverpool is too tempting to resist though.
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
Anyone else's FSC keep cutting out?
prefontaine
Footballguy
Liverpool deserve this result
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
Mascherano sucks
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
:(
David Ngog
David Ngog
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
This FSC feed better be fixed so I can DVR the Arsenal game...it works on all other TVs in the house but is choppy in here...
prefontaine
Footballguy
nice to see Spector getting the start here
The Z Machine
Footballguy
Atletico sucks.
They were up 1-0 at home and Mallorca had 9 players. Mallorca equalized in the 93rd minute. How is that possible?
They were up 1-0 at home and Mallorca had 9 players. Mallorca equalized in the 93rd minute. How is that possible?
Sammy3469
Footballguy
1. Fergie needs to shut his trap about the ref in the Liverpool game. He should be more concerned with his pitiful midfield.
2. The US kicks off in the U-17 today (game on at 2pm ESPNU). I think this team is suppose to be better than the U-20s with McInerney, Gil, and Jerome being the bigger names I recognize.
2. The US kicks off in the U-17 today (game on at 2pm ESPNU). I think this team is suppose to be better than the U-20s with McInerney, Gil, and Jerome being the bigger names I recognize.
andy_b
Footballguy
I love this thread. So many various and knowledgeable opinions.
The Donovan posts are a perfect reason why this thread is so readable.
There must be 10 different opinions on Landon and every time I read one I nod my head saying, "yes that makes sense" even if it was opposite to what I just agreed with in the previous post.
I don't know what we smoke in this thread but it so awesome to read opposing opinions on players/teams/leagues etc and not have any tool factor come out. This might not be Big Soccer in terms of depth of knowledge, but I would rather read this thread than almost anyone on Big Soccer that eventually gets run down by the tool factor (similar to almost any other thread here in the FFA).
The Donovan posts are a perfect reason why this thread is so readable.
There must be 10 different opinions on Landon and every time I read one I nod my head saying, "yes that makes sense" even if it was opposite to what I just agreed with in the previous post.
I don't know what we smoke in this thread but it so awesome to read opposing opinions on players/teams/leagues etc and not have any tool factor come out. This might not be Big Soccer in terms of depth of knowledge, but I would rather read this thread than almost anyone on Big Soccer that eventually gets run down by the tool factor (similar to almost any other thread here in the FFA).
TLEF316
Footballguy
i heard they left a couple of the bigger talents (guys that were playing in europe) off the roster in order to push team chemistry. Is this true? if so, its a bad move. But yeah, i am excited about this team. i read that they play a very attacking style.
Native
Footballguy
I may have missed this but has it been confirmed that Gooch is out of the WC?
andy_b
Footballguy
no I don't think so. The latest rumors/info are referring to a 6 month rehab schedule though. And with the likelihood of never seeing the field at that time for Milan does lead to obvious concern we have as to how and when he will get back into game shape.
Sammy3469
Footballguy
I'd assume if it really is 6 months that he'd use May to get into shape (ie he'd play in every US friendly) since like you said his Milan season is basically over. He'd basically half the first part of May toget into shape, 3 (I'd assume) friendies to get into better game shape, and then another 1.5-2 weeks before the WC started. It's doable, but at this point who really knows.
Native
Footballguy
OK good, I thought I missed something. Truth be told, he wasnt going to see the pitch at Milan anyway. So as long as he is fully recovered by the time the WC rolls around, Id bet he is inserted back into the starting lineup. Had this happened to some other player, I could see Bradley replacing him in the lineup - but not with Onyewu. The key for him is that hes healthy, not that hes playing every week.
derek245583
Footballguy
I watched the Liverpool/ ManU game over the weekend and I watched the Real Madrid AC Milan match...I have no idea if these were live or on delay (I am assuming delay)....but those were some good game. Was pulling for Kaka and Co. as well as ManU.
I have a question about the ManU game. Late in the game (like 85th minute or so) Owen made a good run and appeared to have a breakaway, but was fouled at the top of the box...Can he get a penalty shot even though he wasnt in the box when he was fouled? If not, it seems like fouling when the dude gets by you is the smart play.
I have a question about the ManU game. Late in the game (like 85th minute or so) Owen made a good run and appeared to have a breakaway, but was fouled at the top of the box...Can he get a penalty shot even though he wasnt in the box when he was fouled? If not, it seems like fouling when the dude gets by you is the smart play.
TLEF316
Footballguy
nope. He cant get a penalty outside the 18 yard box. if the ref determined that the foul was the only thing that prevented an unstoppable scoring chance (no other defenders within range to stop him) he can red card the tackler and send him right off. That ref didnt do that. Guess he thought another Liverpool defender could have cut him off.By the way, that little Isreali guy on Liverpool is awesome. Very creative and great pace. Is the Israeli national team even decent?
derek245583
Footballguy
They absolutely gagged one in the Real Madrid/ AC Milan game as well in the box. I thought he shoulda gotten at least a yellow card and he ended up not even getting called for a foul...Not sure of the names involved. It was early in the game.
It has to be in the box for it to be a penalty. I may agree with you about a foul like that near the end of the game to save a result. But it's risky because it's an automatic red card if there's only the goalie left to beat.
andy_b
Footballguy
I think you were watching the ManU Liverpool game live.However, AC Milan was involved in a normal Serie A game this weekend so you must have been watching some sort of replay from a previous year(I don't remember Milan and Madrid playing each other this season but they may have).
Benayoun has been one of the few bright spots for Liverpool.
I guess it would depend on what shirt Kaka was wearing.They played 10/21 in the Champions League:
http://www.the90thminute.com/soccer/2009/1...ctober-21-2009/
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TLEF316
Footballguy
that guy is a tremendous talent.
Sammy3469
Footballguy
He was watching a replay of this weeks Champions League match when Milan won 3-2.
derek245583
Footballguy
That is embarrassing. But also my favorite part about soccer. I never have any idea who won what so even old games are new to me.I could watch a college football game from 1997 and know who won.The final was 3-2 AC Milan won...Ill go look to see when it was from. I saw Kaka, Rhonaldinio, Raul....so it wasnt a 1970's game I know that.
andy_b
Footballguy
CONCACAF is off to a rough start in the tournament.Mexico and Honduras both lost (to Switz and Argie respectively) and CR only manages a draw against the Kiwi's.Interesting how the 4 CONCACAF teams for the U17 match the 4 top teams for the World Cup Quals...
The Gator
Footballguy
I don't think he started v. Chelsea, but he came in as a sub and really picked up the pace for some nice pushes. Fun to watch
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LHUCKS
Footballguy
Nice, we need to play as many games as possible to see what we have with our depth.
andy_b
Footballguy
sadly, we have so few players getting regular time overseas, we might be able to test out depth as we may need each and every friendly to get as many of our regulars game time as possible.
prefontaine
Footballguy
I fall into this same trap as well thinking most of our players aren't getting regular time. But it's actually not true. Here are all the guys that regularly play for the NT that play overseas.Altidore (Hull) - seems to be a somewhat regular subDempsey (Fulham) - starterFehlheiber (AGF) - starterBradley (Bor Monch) - pissed his coach off and missed a few matches but is now back to being a starterCherundolo (Hannover) - starterGooch (Milan) - ***not seeing regular timeBoca (Rennes) - off and on starterSpector (West Ham) - hasn't played much but did go the distance in the draw vs Arsenal yesterdayHoward (Everton) - starter
Native
Footballguy
The Israeli national team is always in the hunt for qualification for the WC and Euro Cup, but they never make it to the big tournaments. During 2006 World Cup Qualification, they were the only team not to lose a single game yet didnt advance to the finals because they had so many draws. Benayoun is their captain and clearly the best player. They have a few other players who also play in Europe - Tal Ben Haim, formerly from Chelsea and now at Portsmouth, Ben Sahar (Espanyol), Dudu Aouate (Mllorca).I don't think he started v. Chelsea, but he came in as a sub and really picked up the pace for some nice pushes. Fun to watch
andy_b
Footballguy
I agree with all of these but I firmly believe that all of our national team starters should be seeing close to 90 minutes a game, not as spot startersGooch and Altidore were the ones I am most concerned with, and with Gooch's injury I am even more concerned. And it just kills me to see a promising young player like Jozy not getting more time. But this is a problem we seem to deal with every time around and will just have to work through it this time.
andy_b
Footballguy
The Z Machine
Footballguy
Agreed.But his heart is in the right places. There are far worse reasons not to get a game. It's a learning experience about being a professional. I wouldn't be too concerned.
As an aside, as the rise of social networking and web connectivity grow, we're going to see many such examples of inappropriate professional behavior from the younger generation who have been facebooking, tweeting, posing on message boards, etc. since they learned to type. These faux-pas are going to be really widespread in 5 years.
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
Pre>you forgot about Eddie Johnson. Honest mistake, I'm sure...
bentley
Footballguy
And the Aston Villa keepers. I think he was limiting it to people that are regularly playing on the USMNT right now.
andy_b
Footballguy
I could not find the info in the article I linked too. What was the reason he was late?I am concerned because we need Jozy to get as much time as possible and its obvious his coach is not sold on him being a starter and this is not going to help his coach find time for him even as a sub if there is another player who is pushing him for time,Agreed.But his heart is in the right places. There are far worse reasons not to get a game. It's a learning experience about being a professional. I wouldn't be too concerned.
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
Well, I was kidding...He forgot about Taylor Twellman too.
prefontaine
Footballguy
prefontaine
Footballguy
Yeah I was. There is a little bit of a chicken-egg thing with that though. Guys like Adu, DMB, EJ, etc don't play for their club so they aren't in form and don't get a shot for NT either. Then again, maybe the reason they don't play for their club is they aren't all that good. I did leave off Demerit who obviously is a reg when healthy.
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