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I'm still a n00b, but I agree completely. Everton's a decent mid-table club, they already love him, and he'd be starting most games. Citeh number crunch = bad news.Any idea on what the future holds for Jozy? I know he's not going back to Hull.
Hell, what about Liverpool. They need all of the help they can get.Edit: LD not Jozy
 
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I'm still a n00b, but I agree completely. Everton's a decent mid-table club, they already love him, and he'd be starting most games. Citeh number crunch = bad news.Any idea on what the future holds for Jozy? I know he's not going back to Hull.
Hell, what about Liverpool. They need all of the help they can get.
Sure. As long as he doesn't cost anything. Those are the only players we're going to be acquiring for a while.
 
I have watched international soccer near religously for the last 4 years but in last two years began to catch some club soccer. I have had trouble figuring out which teams to follow but have decided to follow players and their teams.

So far...

Liverpool - Kuyt for the workrate, I would have him on my team anyday. I also enjoy Torres but will he be there?

Bayern Muncih - Robben, obvious reasons. Schweinsteiger, fell for him during Germany 2006.

Werder Bremen - Ozil, Schweinsteiger version South Africa 2010.

Fenerbahce - Diego Lugano, most impressive center back defensively aside from whatever he was doing during that South Korean goal and he has some emotion in his game.

Whatever team Jozy ends up playing for this year (hopefully actually playing). His development is more vital to the USA than any other player. And despite his shortcomings, I love his tank style of play.

There may be a more coming.

 
What are your guys' thoughts on Donovan possibly moving to Man City? I can't help but think it's a bad idea, just like I thought (a) Gooch to Milan and (b) Adu to Benfica were awful ideas.I posted this in a different thread but felt it might generate more discussion here:

Steve Tasker said:
Txns8 said:
If they spend the money being talked about to get him, he'll play plenty. I think it is a good move for him and for US soccer.
But money isn't an issue for MCFC. Let's take a look at their midfield right now....Adam Johnson and Shaun Wright-Phillips play essentially the same position as Donovan, as do Vladimir Weiss (on loan last year, bright young talent) and Robinho (returns from his loan spell). In addition, Gareth Barry and Stephen Ireland have established themselves as important pieces of the midfield, along with Vincent Kompany and Nigel de Jong.....and this doesn't even take into account Yaya Toure's impending - but unconfirmed - move to Man City.That's one crowded midfield. I'm sure he'd get in the game, but I just don't see him really establishing himself as a definite starting XI player in that lineup. Money doesn't concern City now, they can spend whatever the #### they want on whoever they want.I'd much rather see him at Everton, where both David Moyes and the fanbase love him, and he has a real chance of seeing the field with consistency. Donovan to Man City just feels like Gooch to AC Milan to me....move to a glamor club and have your form suffer because you're not getting enough game action.
I could be wrong here, and I'm willing to explore other thoughts - I realize some of those guys could be transferred/loaned out - but I can't help but think this isn't going to be as good a move as it sounds on paper. City have a packed midfield.
Couldn't agree more. Dunno who will stay around (Ireland and Robinho are almost certainly gone, right?) but there will be tons of competition there. Do not like.
 
Caught the end of the Sounders-Union game tonight. Impressed with the quality of the play. May have to start watching more games.
was at this game - the stadium is beautiful and the crowd was loud despite the searing heat. The Union really do play an attractive style of soccer for the most part - very positive. They just need to continue to cut down on makng stupid mistakes, especially in the back. Seitz is starting to turn the corner at GK- was huge, stopped a PK that changed the momentum for good.Le Toux is a beast - not the most skilled player, but his pace and workrate in that heat were insane.Mwanga with a goal in his 4th straight game. Only 18yrs old. Would be cool to cap him if/when he gets US citizenship.
 
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What are your guys' thoughts on Donovan possibly moving to Man City? I can't help but think it's a bad idea, just like I thought (a) Gooch to Milan and (b) Adu to Benfica were awful ideas.I posted this in a different thread but felt it might generate more discussion here:

Steve Tasker said:
Txns8 said:
If they spend the money being talked about to get him, he'll play plenty. I think it is a good move for him and for US soccer.
But money isn't an issue for MCFC. Let's take a look at their midfield right now....Adam Johnson and Shaun Wright-Phillips play essentially the same position as Donovan, as do Vladimir Weiss (on loan last year, bright young talent) and Robinho (returns from his loan spell). In addition, Gareth Barry and Stephen Ireland have established themselves as important pieces of the midfield, along with Vincent Kompany and Nigel de Jong.....and this doesn't even take into account Yaya Toure's impending - but unconfirmed - move to Man City.That's one crowded midfield. I'm sure he'd get in the game, but I just don't see him really establishing himself as a definite starting XI player in that lineup. Money doesn't concern City now, they can spend whatever the #### they want on whoever they want.I'd much rather see him at Everton, where both David Moyes and the fanbase love him, and he has a real chance of seeing the field with consistency. Donovan to Man City just feels like Gooch to AC Milan to me....move to a glamor club and have your form suffer because you're not getting enough game action.
I could be wrong here, and I'm willing to explore other thoughts - I realize some of those guys could be transferred/loaned out - but I can't help but think this isn't going to be as good a move as it sounds on paper. City have a packed midfield.
Couldn't agree more. Dunno who will stay around (Ireland and Robinho are almost certainly gone, right?) but there will be tons of competition there. Do not like.
I wouldn't be that worried about LanDon's playing time if he goes to City. They are building the foundation to be competitive in all 4 competitions next year. Will he get regular starts in Europa? Or EPL? I dunno. But I suspect he would at worst get regular time in the FA or Carling Cup with the occasional league start and probably quite a few appearances off the bench. It may not be the best fit, but it wouldn't be awful. And on top of that, LD is at the end of his development. Now it's about getting paid and if he goes to City, he's gonna get paid. Yeah, I'd rather him end up at Everton bc I like Everton. But this really wouldn't be all that bad
 
Caught the end of the Sounders-Union game tonight. Impressed with the quality of the play. May have to start watching more games.
was at this game - the stadium is beautiful and the crowd was loud despite the searing heat. The Union really do play an attractive style of soccer for the most part - very positive. They just need to continue to cut down on makng stupid mistakes, especially in the back. Seitz is starting to turn the corner at GK- was huge, stopped a PK that changed the momentum for good.

Le Toux is a beast - not the most skilled player, but his pace and workrate in that heat were insane.

Mwanga with a goal in his 4th straight game. Only 18yrs old. Would be cool to cap him if/when he gets US citizenship.
i was there also. it was, in a word, awesome. not sure how the stadium compares to others ... its beautiful, but so, so small. just used to the bank and the linc i guess.here's my writeup on the game

 
I have watched international soccer near religously for the last 4 years but in last two years began to catch some club soccer. I have had trouble figuring out which teams to follow but have decided to follow players and their teams.So far...Liverpool - Kuyt for the workrate, I would have him on my team anyday. I also enjoy Torres but will he be there?Bayern Muncih - Robben, obvious reasons. Schweinsteiger, fell for him during Germany 2006.Werder Bremen - Ozil, Schweinsteiger version South Africa 2010.Fenerbahce - Diego Lugano, most impressive center back defensively aside from whatever he was doing during that South Korean goal and he has some emotion in his game.Whatever team Jozy ends up playing for this year (hopefully actually playing). His development is more vital to the USA than any other player. And despite his shortcomings, I love his tank style of play.There may be a more coming.
Bayern and Fenerbahce are two of my favorites as well :goodposting:Fener has a lot of really good players and should've won the Turkish title, but had problems finishing mainly due to Dani Guiza's poor form. They have a lot of money to spend and are working hard to fix that - already added Slovakia's Miroslav Stoch and made a huge offer to Milan for Klaas-Jan Huntelaar.And not only do they have a good team, they also got some crazy pyromaniac fans.
 
Caught the end of the Sounders-Union game tonight. Impressed with the quality of the play. May have to start watching more games.
was at this game - the stadium is beautiful and the crowd was loud despite the searing heat. The Union really do play an attractive style of soccer for the most part - very positive. They just need to continue to cut down on makng stupid mistakes, especially in the back. Seitz is starting to turn the corner at GK- was huge, stopped a PK that changed the momentum for good.

Le Toux is a beast - not the most skilled player, but his pace and workrate in that heat were insane.

Mwanga with a goal in his 4th straight game. Only 18yrs old. Would be cool to cap him if/when he gets US citizenship.
i was there also. it was, in a word, awesome. not sure how the stadium compares to others ... its beautiful, but so, so small. just used to the bank and the linc i guess.here's my writeup on the game
Stadium looks awesome on tv.
 
LanDon :lmao: still kills me

Yeah, I'm not sure a move to City would be the best fit...but I don't think you'll hear him complain with the oodles of money he'll earn there. I'd have to deep a bit deeper into City's roster....but their midfield currently contains the likes of SWP, Ireland, Barry and their strikers include Adebayar, Bellamy, Tevez, Santa Cruz...and they are talking about adding Toure and are still chasing Joe Cole.....that's a lot of guys battling for playing time.

Liverpool would make more sense :lmao:

And I haven't heard it mentioned at all, and perhaps Redknapp has no interest at all, but a move to Spurs would seem to me to be a very good fit. Spurs qualified for CL play, and with all of the Cup games and premier league games, it's a very heavy schedule for any team. Spurs have a pretty solid midfield, but I don't think LanDon would have much trouble getting regular playing time, especially considering you will need to factor in the inevitable injury to Kranjcar and Lennon.

 
What are your guys' thoughts on Donovan possibly moving to Man City? I can't help but think it's a bad idea, just like I thought (a) Gooch to Milan and (b) Adu to Benfica were awful ideas.I posted this in a different thread but felt it might generate more discussion here:

Steve Tasker said:
Txns8 said:
If they spend the money being talked about to get him, he'll play plenty. I think it is a good move for him and for US soccer.
But money isn't an issue for MCFC. Let's take a look at their midfield right now....Adam Johnson and Shaun Wright-Phillips play essentially the same position as Donovan, as do Vladimir Weiss (on loan last year, bright young talent) and Robinho (returns from his loan spell). In addition, Gareth Barry and Stephen Ireland have established themselves as important pieces of the midfield, along with Vincent Kompany and Nigel de Jong.....and this doesn't even take into account Yaya Toure's impending - but unconfirmed - move to Man City.That's one crowded midfield. I'm sure he'd get in the game, but I just don't see him really establishing himself as a definite starting XI player in that lineup. Money doesn't concern City now, they can spend whatever the #### they want on whoever they want.I'd much rather see him at Everton, where both David Moyes and the fanbase love him, and he has a real chance of seeing the field with consistency. Donovan to Man City just feels like Gooch to AC Milan to me....move to a glamor club and have your form suffer because you're not getting enough game action.
I could be wrong here, and I'm willing to explore other thoughts - I realize some of those guys could be transferred/loaned out - but I can't help but think this isn't going to be as good a move as it sounds on paper. City have a packed midfield.
I'm with you, I have no desire to see Donovan sign for City. They would have no loyalty to him (not that many clubs do with any players), but there would be no doubt that City would buy another player to play over him if they thought he was better. And you already pointed out the players he would be competing with for playing time. Although, I don't see Robinho going back to City. He seemed to have a rough falling out with the management last season. But yes, I would like to see Donovan get back to Everton if possible. Wasn't he also linked with a move to Birmingham last season too?
 
I'm still a n00b, but I agree completely. Everton's a decent mid-table club, they already love him, and he'd be starting most games. Citeh number crunch = bad news.Any idea on what the future holds for Jozy? I know he's not going back to Hull.
Hell, what about Liverpool. They need all of the help they can get.Edit: LD not Jozy
I would love for that to happen, but Liverpool is in shambles right now. They cannot even get a manager to sign so far. Maybe they're waiting until the end of the cup, but it seems they've already been rebuked by at least Marsille's manager and Mourino is courting Gerrard, Chelsea is courting Torres, Mascherano would still jump to Barcelona given the chance. I'm depressed by the whole thing. #### debt mongers.
 
I'm with you, I have no desire to see Donovan sign for City. They would have no loyalty to him (not that many clubs do with any players), but there would be no doubt that City would buy another player to play over him if they thought he was better. And you already pointed out the players he would be competing with for playing time. Although, I don't see Robinho going back to City. He seemed to have a rough falling out with the management last season. But yes, I would like to see Donovan get back to Everton if possible. Wasn't he also linked with a move to Birmingham last season too?
Donovan's in a weird spot though. He's too expensive for Everton now (or more precisely MLS wants more than what Everton wants to spend), so he's probably left to finding the best spot on any of the top 6 or so (and it may even be limited to CL teams) teams in the top 4 leagues (put it this way Everton is probably the biggest non-CL team out there, so if they can't meet MLS transfer price no one smaller will be able to either). At 28, Donovan also needs to get paid, so he's not going somewhere for playing time.That means he left with the Man City's of the world. Is it the best fit. Of course not. Is it an OK fit, sure. At this point he'd be one of there big signings and be competing with SWP for playing time on the right side. Nothing against SWP, but that's a guy Donovan can beat out for playing time. Cole's a different matter if he goes there, but I don't think ManCity signs both.
 
I'm with you, I have no desire to see Donovan sign for City. They would have no loyalty to him (not that many clubs do with any players), but there would be no doubt that City would buy another player to play over him if they thought he was better. And you already pointed out the players he would be competing with for playing time. Although, I don't see Robinho going back to City. He seemed to have a rough falling out with the management last season. But yes, I would like to see Donovan get back to Everton if possible. Wasn't he also linked with a move to Birmingham last season too?
Donovan's in a weird spot though. He's too expensive for Everton now (or more precisely MLS wants more than what Everton wants to spend), so he's probably left to finding the best spot on any of the top 6 or so (and it may even be limited to CL teams) teams in the top 4 leagues (put it this way Everton is probably the biggest non-CL team out there, so if they can't meet MLS transfer price no one smaller will be able to either). At 28, Donovan also needs to get paid, so he's not going somewhere for playing time.That means he left with the Man City's of the world. Is it the best fit. Of course not. Is it an OK fit, sure. At this point he'd be one of there big signings and be competing with SWP for playing time on the right side. Nothing against SWP, but that's a guy Donovan can beat out for playing time. Cole's a different matter if he goes there, but I don't think ManCity signs both.
Adam Johnson is the real threat, I would think. He should have been picked instead of SWP for England in the first place. He was on much better form. Donovan's advantage would be his ability to play on the left and the right (SWP does that for England as well, but not really for Man City).I suppose it's a testament to LD's increased prominence that he has a bona fide sex scandal in England now.
 
ooooh, crazy thought here, but if LanDon moves to the EPL, does he necessarily need play for one of the top sides?

I mean, we're all throwing out there that a club would be crazy not to capitalize on his world cup play, the american public angle, and so forth....so we need a team with money. We also need a team with a need. Few clubs really fit both those qualifications, at least among the top teams, but how about the newly promoted Newcastle United? That's a team with money. They also would be a good fit for LanDon. Plus, they do have a pretty decent following....just spit balling here, but I mean Newcastle has a chance to get into the middle of the pack fairly quickly with a few key signings.

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ooooh, crazy thought here, but if LanDon moves to the EPL, does he necessarily need play for one of the top sides?I mean, we're all throwing out there that a club would be crazy not to capitalize on his world cup play, the american public angle, and so forth....so we need a team with money. We also need a team with a need. Few clubs really fit both those qualifications, at least among the top teams, but how about the newly promoted Newcastle United? That's a team with money. They also would be a good fit for LanDon. Plus, they do have a pretty decent following....just spit balling here, but I mean Newcastle has a chance to get into the middle of the pack fairly quickly with a few key signings. :lmao:
It would be nice for him to find a team like Dempsey did with Fulham where he can get a lot of playing time. Unfortunately, like a few have said, the $ issue will play a big part. Both LD getting a big contract and MLS getting a decent transfer fee.
 
ooooh, crazy thought here, but if LanDon moves to the EPL, does he necessarily need play for one of the top sides?I mean, we're all throwing out there that a club would be crazy not to capitalize on his world cup play, the american public angle, and so forth....so we need a team with money. We also need a team with a need. Few clubs really fit both those qualifications, at least among the top teams, but how about the newly promoted Newcastle United? That's a team with money. They also would be a good fit for LanDon. Plus, they do have a pretty decent following....just spit balling here, but I mean Newcastle has a chance to get into the middle of the pack fairly quickly with a few key signings. :yes:
It would be nice for him to find a team like Dempsey did with Fulham where he can get a lot of playing time. Unfortunately, like a few have said, the $ issue will play a big part. Both LD getting a big contract and MLS getting a decent transfer fee.
I was in a London pub roughly a week and a half ago and I was wearing my USA Nike Soccer jacket and two Fulham fans approached me and kept going on about how much of a ####### legend Clint Dempsey was to them. I was like, "Me too!" I thought that was just incredibly cool.
 
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ooooh, crazy thought here, but if LanDon moves to the EPL, does he necessarily need play for one of the top sides?I mean, we're all throwing out there that a club would be crazy not to capitalize on his world cup play, the american public angle, and so forth....so we need a team with money. We also need a team with a need. Few clubs really fit both those qualifications, at least among the top teams, but how about the newly promoted Newcastle United? That's a team with money. They also would be a good fit for LanDon. Plus, they do have a pretty decent following....just spit balling here, but I mean Newcastle has a chance to get into the middle of the pack fairly quickly with a few key signings. :yes:
It would be nice for him to find a team like Dempsey did with Fulham where he can get a lot of playing time. Unfortunately, like a few have said, the $ issue will play a big part. Both LD getting a big contract and MLS getting a decent transfer fee.
I was in a London pub roughly a week and a half ago and I was wearing my USA Nike Soccer jacket and two Fulham fans approached me and kept going on about how much of a ####### legend Clint Dempsey was to them. I was like, "Me too!" I thought that was just incredibly cool.
Oh, yeah. He's scored two of Fulham's most important goals ever. The one against Liverpool to keep the from relegation two years ago and the one against Juventus. Funnily enough, one of the other things they like about him that Americans hate is the sullen attitude he gives off when things don't go well for him. They see it as a reflection of how much he cares about succeeding.
 
ooooh, crazy thought here, but if LanDon moves to the EPL, does he necessarily need play for one of the top sides?I mean, we're all throwing out there that a club would be crazy not to capitalize on his world cup play, the american public angle, and so forth....so we need a team with money. We also need a team with a need. Few clubs really fit both those qualifications, at least among the top teams, but how about the newly promoted Newcastle United? That's a team with money. They also would be a good fit for LanDon. Plus, they do have a pretty decent following....just spit balling here, but I mean Newcastle has a chance to get into the middle of the pack fairly quickly with a few key signings. :yes:
It would be nice for him to find a team like Dempsey did with Fulham where he can get a lot of playing time. Unfortunately, like a few have said, the $ issue will play a big part. Both LD getting a big contract and MLS getting a decent transfer fee.
I was in a London pub roughly a week and a half ago and I was wearing my USA Nike Soccer jacket and two Fulham fans approached me and kept going on about how much of a ####### legend Clint Dempsey was to them. I was like, "Me too!" I thought that was just incredibly cool.
Ehhh... He's good, but "legend"? I don't think he's done quite enough to warrant that for the USMNT. He had a good tournament, and he was instrumental in qualifying, but he could have contributed more IMO.
 
ooooh, crazy thought here, but if LanDon moves to the EPL, does he necessarily need play for one of the top sides?I mean, we're all throwing out there that a club would be crazy not to capitalize on his world cup play, the american public angle, and so forth....so we need a team with money. We also need a team with a need. Few clubs really fit both those qualifications, at least among the top teams, but how about the newly promoted Newcastle United? That's a team with money. They also would be a good fit for LanDon. Plus, they do have a pretty decent following....just spit balling here, but I mean Newcastle has a chance to get into the middle of the pack fairly quickly with a few key signings. :hifive:
It would be nice for him to find a team like Dempsey did with Fulham where he can get a lot of playing time. Unfortunately, like a few have said, the $ issue will play a big part. Both LD getting a big contract and MLS getting a decent transfer fee.
That's the thing though. Newcastle is flush with money. Their "big money" players, Vidulka, Owen, Martins are no longer there. They are valued as a top 20 team...in the WORLD. They can afford LanDon :mellow: and they could certainly use him. Their midfield is okay, but I mean, LanDon is better than most everyone they have as an attacking midfielder.
 
I was in a London pub roughly a week and a half ago and I was wearing my USA Nike Soccer jacket and two Fulham fans approached me and kept going on about how much of a ####### legend Clint Dempsey was to them. I was like, "Me too!" I thought that was just incredibly cool.
Ehhh... He's good, but "legend"? I don't think he's done quite enough to warrant that for the USMNT. He had a good tournament, and he was instrumental in qualifying, but he could have contributed more IMO.
perhaps they were referring to his legendary strike vs England a few weeks back. :hifive:
 
ooooh, crazy thought here, but if LanDon moves to the EPL, does he necessarily need play for one of the top sides?I mean, we're all throwing out there that a club would be crazy not to capitalize on his world cup play, the american public angle, and so forth....so we need a team with money. We also need a team with a need. Few clubs really fit both those qualifications, at least among the top teams, but how about the newly promoted Newcastle United? That's a team with money. They also would be a good fit for LanDon. Plus, they do have a pretty decent following....just spit balling here, but I mean Newcastle has a chance to get into the middle of the pack fairly quickly with a few key signings. :hifive:
It would be nice for him to find a team like Dempsey did with Fulham where he can get a lot of playing time. Unfortunately, like a few have said, the $ issue will play a big part. Both LD getting a big contract and MLS getting a decent transfer fee.
I was in a London pub roughly a week and a half ago and I was wearing my USA Nike Soccer jacket and two Fulham fans approached me and kept going on about how much of a ####### legend Clint Dempsey was to them. I was like, "Me too!" I thought that was just incredibly cool.
Ehhh... He's good, but "legend"? I don't think he's done quite enough to warrant that for the USMNT. He had a good tournament, and he was instrumental in qualifying, but he could have contributed more IMO.
Give it a rest. He's one of the 2-3 best players the US has ever produced. He's scored some of the US teams most important goals. And he almost singlehandedly kept the US in that Ghana game.
 
ooooh, crazy thought here, but if LanDon moves to the EPL, does he necessarily need play for one of the top sides?I mean, we're all throwing out there that a club would be crazy not to capitalize on his world cup play, the american public angle, and so forth....so we need a team with money. We also need a team with a need. Few clubs really fit both those qualifications, at least among the top teams, but how about the newly promoted Newcastle United? That's a team with money. They also would be a good fit for LanDon. Plus, they do have a pretty decent following....just spit balling here, but I mean Newcastle has a chance to get into the middle of the pack fairly quickly with a few key signings. :hifive:
It would be nice for him to find a team like Dempsey did with Fulham where he can get a lot of playing time. Unfortunately, like a few have said, the $ issue will play a big part. Both LD getting a big contract and MLS getting a decent transfer fee.
That's the thing though. Newcastle is flush with money. Their "big money" players, Vidulka, Owen, Martins are no longer there. They are valued as a top 20 team...in the WORLD. They can afford LanDon :mellow: and they could certainly use him. Their midfield is okay, but I mean, LanDon is better than most everyone they have as an attacking midfielder.
I wasn't aware of Newcastle's financial position. If so, it would be a good fit.
 
ooooh, crazy thought here, but if LanDon moves to the EPL, does he necessarily need play for one of the top sides?

I mean, we're all throwing out there that a club would be crazy not to capitalize on his world cup play, the american public angle, and so forth....so we need a team with money. We also need a team with a need. Few clubs really fit both those qualifications, at least among the top teams, but how about the newly promoted Newcastle United? That's a team with money. They also would be a good fit for LanDon. Plus, they do have a pretty decent following....just spit balling here, but I mean Newcastle has a chance to get into the middle of the pack fairly quickly with a few key signings.

:hifive:
It would be nice for him to find a team like Dempsey did with Fulham where he can get a lot of playing time. Unfortunately, like a few have said, the $ issue will play a big part. Both LD getting a big contract and MLS getting a decent transfer fee.
I was in a London pub roughly a week and a half ago and I was wearing my USA Nike Soccer jacket and two Fulham fans approached me and kept going on about how much of a ####### legend Clint Dempsey was to them. I was like, "Me too!" I thought that was just incredibly cool.
Ehhh... He's good, but "legend"? I don't think he's done quite enough to warrant that for the USMNT. He had a good tournament, and he was instrumental in qualifying, but he could have contributed more IMO.
This goal may be what they are referring to. Kept them alive in the Europa League, where Fulham eventually lost in the final.
 
ooooh, crazy thought here, but if LanDon moves to the EPL, does he necessarily need play for one of the top sides?I mean, we're all throwing out there that a club would be crazy not to capitalize on his world cup play, the american public angle, and so forth....so we need a team with money. We also need a team with a need. Few clubs really fit both those qualifications, at least among the top teams, but how about the newly promoted Newcastle United? That's a team with money. They also would be a good fit for LanDon. Plus, they do have a pretty decent following....just spit balling here, but I mean Newcastle has a chance to get into the middle of the pack fairly quickly with a few key signings. :popcorn:
It would be nice for him to find a team like Dempsey did with Fulham where he can get a lot of playing time. Unfortunately, like a few have said, the $ issue will play a big part. Both LD getting a big contract and MLS getting a decent transfer fee.
I was in a London pub roughly a week and a half ago and I was wearing my USA Nike Soccer jacket and two Fulham fans approached me and kept going on about how much of a ####### legend Clint Dempsey was to them. I was like, "Me too!" I thought that was just incredibly cool.
Ehhh... He's good, but "legend"? I don't think he's done quite enough to warrant that for the USMNT. He had a good tournament, and he was instrumental in qualifying, but he could have contributed more IMO.
Give it a rest. He's one of the 2-3 best players the US has ever produced. He's scored some of the US teams most important goals. And he almost singlehandedly kept the US in that Ghana game.
I'm with you Christo. Z, as Christo said, on the club level he's produced some truly huge goals. Have people already forgotten his Confederations Cup performances where he was picked the thrid best player of the tournament? Brazil, Italy and Spain were all in that same competition. And although his only goal at this one world cup was thanks to a shaky keeper, he worked his ### off, drew a penalty to give us a chance against Ghana and was just abused physically by all our opponents.
 
Better (outfield) players than Deuce for the US:

1) Landon Donovan

2) Claudio Reyna

3) Brian McBride

4) Tab Ramos

He has a chance to become the 2nd best player ever for the US if he continues his level of play over the next 4 years, but he's not there yet.

 
Better (outfield) players than Deuce for the US:1) Landon Donovan2) Claudio Reyna3) Brian McBride4) Tab RamosHe has a chance to become the 2nd best player ever for the US if he continues his level of play over the next 4 years, but he's not there yet.
I'd put him ahead of all of those guys but LD now if we're talking "best player." All those other three guys have on him is longevity. And I don't see that bow in their quiver very much longer. Who do you see replacing him in the near future?Plus, Ramos wasn't even born here.
 
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Better (outfield) players than Deuce for the US:1) Landon Donovan2) Claudio Reyna3) Brian McBride4) Tab RamosHe has a chance to become the 2nd best player ever for the US if he continues his level of play over the next 4 years, but he's not there yet.
I'd put him ahead of all of those guys but LD now if we're talking "best player." All those other three guys have on him is longevity. And I don't see that bow in their quiver very much longer. Who do you see replacing him in the near future?Plus, Ramos wasn't even born here.
I said, "for the US", not born in the US. Quit splitting hairs, shyster. :no:Once again, we'll have to disagree here, Christo. I'll agree that I don't see anyone replacing Deuce in the near future, but we haven't really replaced McBride yet have we?
 
Being the local Everton supporter, I would love to see LanDon come back the the Toffees for a variety of reasons however if the LA Galaxy has their way I have a feeling he will be going to ManCity due to the deeper pockets. That would be a little disappointing for an Everton team that really showed great form over the last part of the season and hopefully could continue that run going into the 10/11 campaign.

I came across this after reviewing one of the Everton forums:

Pregnancy May Be Problematic For USA Star Landon Donovan

Sports Illustrated's website, SI.com, has broken the story that USA star Landon Donovan stands accused of paternity by a British woman.

According to S.I., a British tabloid is set to run a story in which a U.K. woman says she is pregnant with Donovan's child.

"I was informed of the possibility during the World Cup, and if I need to take responsibility, then I will provide the appropriate support," Donovan reportedly told SI.com.

Donovan and his wife, actress Bianca Kajlich, announced their separation last summer, though the split was said to be amicable. A divorce has not been finalized.

In fact, the two appeared to be close to reconciliation. In several recent interviews, Donovan publically thanked her for helping him mature and blew her a kiss after on-camera remarks at the World Cup.

In turn, Kajlich had posted supportive messages on her Twitter account for the USA's World Cup campaign in general and Donovan in particular.

"Man oh man. Tough loss. So proud of our boys..." Kajlich posted after the USA defeat to Ghana.

Donovan was a key part of the USA's World Cup campaign, scoring three goals before the Americans were ousted from the tournament.

In the winter of this year, Donovan went on loan to Everton Football Club and lived in Liverpool for ten weeks before returning to his hometown Los Angeles Galaxy club.
 
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Also came across this...

Arsenal's Howard link revealed

Legendary Arsenal goalkeeper Bob Wilson has revealed that he had Arsene Wenger cast his eye over Everton goalkeeper Tim Howard before the American moved to Manchester United in 2003, but that the Gunners medical team felt the player’s Tourette’s Syndrome could hinder his performance.

The 31-year-old, who is currently starring for his homeland at the World Cup in South Africa, spent four years at Old Trafford before sealing a switch to Everton with whom he is currently thriving. It now appears that Howard was a contender to take over from David Seaman when the legendary England stalwart left Highbury in 2003 and could have been in goal instead of Jens Lehmann during the Arsenal’s ‘invincibles’ season.

Revealing to Sport.co.uk the manner in which players are scouted before they make a move to Arsenal, former Scotland international Bob Wilson cited the example of Thomas Vermaelen before explaining the problems behind doing a deal for Everton's number one:

“Arsene has somebody in every country and then he sends out the guys from England, particularly Steve Rowley, to go and watch specific targets. With [Thomas]Vermaelen who was captaining Ajax I think they kept tabs on him from the adjoining fields to his training ground and followed it up by watching him 30 times in the end. They obviously decided, ok he’s not 6ft 4 inches tall, but boy is he a player. That’s the way it’s done...

“Funnily enough I did once put Arsenal on to a guy. I received an email from a friend in America who said he’d found a goalie called Tim Howard. He stressed we'd have to be careful though because he suffers from Tourette’s Syndrome and it's true he does have a really bad twitch.

“Arsenal were informed but didn’t follow it up as they felt the medical thing was always going to be a problem. It’s highly debatable now when you see how well he has done at Everton.”
 
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Choices for next US coach are wide. I wonder what the US is thinking

You have former US players like Kries and Kinnear who want a shot

You have a US mainstay in fat Sigi who may want a shot

You have the normal cadre of foreign coaches, many of whom failed miserably at this current world cup

You have the ever constant Klinnesman

You have Bradley who stated he would like to continue

What would you guys prefer?

 
Choices for next US coach are wide. I wonder what the US is thinkingYou have former US players like Kries and Kinnear who want a shotYou have a US mainstay in fat Sigi who may want a shotYou have the normal cadre of foreign coaches, many of whom failed miserably at this current world cupYou have the ever constant KlinnesmanYou have Bradley who stated he would like to continueWhat would you guys prefer?
As much as I've grown to like Bradley, I think its time for a change. Arenas second stint was less productive than his first. In fact, I cannot think of any National Team managers that have made improvements on a second cycle as coach. For that reason alone I think they should make a change. Regarding the who... I have no idea. We have had sucess with domestic managers, so I would trust whatever coach was hired if that were the case. All I know is do not want Sven Gorn Erikson. That guy blows.
 
Choices for next US coach are wide. I wonder what the US is thinkingYou have former US players like Kries and Kinnear who want a shotYou have a US mainstay in fat Sigi who may want a shotYou have the normal cadre of foreign coaches, many of whom failed miserably at this current world cupYou have the ever constant KlinnesmanYou have Bradley who stated he would like to continueWhat would you guys prefer?
Definitely not Bradley - not that I thought he did a bad job overall but I just think that a NT needs a new voice and direction every cycle. Seemed like we regressed under Arena's 2nd go-round.Kreis is a possible nice prospect for 2018, but he needs more experience first.I don't trust Klinsmann for some reason. Nothing really concrete, just a gut feeling. CONCACAF qualifying is such a grind, not necessarily with the quality of opponents but with the travel and the hostile environments, and he seems a bit flaky so I could see him up and leaving before the 4 years is up. I think Kinnear has proven himself over time to be a really good coach with Houston so he'd be my choice for this cycle.
 
I think Kinnear has proven himself over time to be a really good coach with Houston so he'd be my choice for this cycle.
I am leaning towards Fat Sigi or Kinnear myself. I am torn because Klinnesman was one of may favorite players of all time and yet like you I am not sure what his intentions are regarding the whole program.
 
I know we're all focused on the World Cup, but anyone notice we are down to the final 16 in the US Open Cup? This is the round the MLS teams come in on.NY Red Bulls v Harrisburg City IslandersDC United v Richmond KickersChicago Fire v Charleston Battery :lmao: Columbus Crew v Rochester RhinosLA Galaxy v AC St. LouisHouston Dynamo v Miami FCChivas USA v Austin AztexSeattle Sounders v Portland Timbers
Results from last night:Harrisburg beat New York 1-0 aetColumbus beat Rochester 2-1Houston beat Miami 1-0Chiva beat Austin 1-0LA beat St. Louis 2-0and Charleston beat Chicago 3-0 on penalties! :lmao:
 
Choices for next US coach are wide. I wonder what the US is thinkingYou have former US players like Kries and Kinnear who want a shotYou have a US mainstay in fat Sigi who may want a shotYou have the normal cadre of foreign coaches, many of whom failed miserably at this current world cupYou have the ever constant KlinnesmanYou have Bradley who stated he would like to continueWhat would you guys prefer?
When did Bradley say he'd like to continue? Thought he left it open so he could take some time to decompress. Not that Im in favor of him returning, 8 years is a long time for any one coach. I don't think we need an international retread, and I dont think any of the issues that prevented Klinnesman from taking the job last time have been resolved. Growing American soccer has to include growing our coaching talent. So Im in favor of a domestic search.
 
Choices for next US coach are wide. I wonder what the US is thinkingYou have former US players like Kries and Kinnear who want a shotYou have a US mainstay in fat Sigi who may want a shotYou have the normal cadre of foreign coaches, many of whom failed miserably at this current world cupYou have the ever constant KlinnesmanYou have Bradley who stated he would like to continueWhat would you guys prefer?
When did Bradley say he'd like to continue? Thought he left it open so he could take some time to decompress. Not that Im in favor of him returning, 8 years is a long time for any one coach.
I read it this morning but I can't find the link. Let me keep looking for it.
 
I don't think we need an international retread, and I dont think any of the issues that prevented Klinnesman from taking the job last time have been resolved.
What were the issues that prevented Klinsmann from taking the job last time? My recollection is that it was unclear whether it was even offered, but he indicated somehow that he wouldn't take it if offered anyway. I don't remember any details. I was not in favor of Klinsmann 4 years ago, but have come around a bit.Here are some thoughts a German friend gave me yesterday (he mistakenly refers to US Soccer as the "US FA"):
I only partly agree with your comments on the US-game. I believe theUS-team was still the better structured one. However the Ghana playersdefinitely were the better technicians. They also have a great futureconsidering that 7 of their players were from the last World Champion U18team. But the Americans could have won. In the end it was the matter of twoweak moments and not enough punch upfront. Still, I believe, throughout thetournament this US team was comparably the best I have seen in the lastWorld Cups. The team in 2002 was good as well but here I can see a muchbetter technical base than before.Still, I believe Klinsmann could change something. I believe the US needsrole models to pull more attention to the game. Klinsmann is not a badcoach. He surely needs a good supporting staff, as he had with Loew in2006. But he is a great motivational manager, a general overachiever andideal to run a National Team. It’s also good to have someone who hasachieved everything in his career as a model for new and young players. Andthat’s what definitely has to be pushed over the upcoming years in the US.He is also demanding and won’t accept half-honest tries to bring the teamforward. He would have a better standing against the Football Associationthen Bradley. And you need to challenge your organisation if you want tomove something. He is a guy that will expect changes on different levels,not only the US-team, if he takes the job and I don’t know whether the USFAwants to go that far.
I now tend to think the best approach might be Klinsmann in charge, with a tactical guy (like Bradley) as his #2, similar to Loew's role for Germany in '06. As before, I've seen nothing indicating Klinsmann is remotely interested in the job, and I would doubt he is.
 
As before, I've seen nothing indicating Klinsmann is remotely interested in the job, and I would doubt he is.
I think the exact opposite. I think if the money works out for both sides, he is the front runner.The fact that he and Sunil could not come to an agreement last time though does not bode well.I would be ok with Klinnesman over any other foreign coach (shoot me if someone like Capello or Quiroz(sp) gets the job).
 
I know he's short on experience, but Kreis seems like he could have a shot with the USMNT at some point in the future. I'm not sure if that time is now, though.

 
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I know he's short on experience, but Kreis seems like he could have a shot with the USMNT at some point in the future. I'm not sure if that time is now, though.
I think Nowak may get his shot eventually too, even if the Olympic team underperformed slightly. I don't watch a ton of MLS, but I'm very impressed at how quickly he's made the Union a watchable team.
 
Steve Tasker said:
I know he's short on experience, but Kreis seems like he could have a shot with the USMNT at some point in the future. I'm not sure if that time is now, though.
I think Nowak may get his shot eventually too, even if the Olympic team underperformed slightly. I don't watch a ton of MLS, but I'm very impressed at how quickly he's made the Union a watchable team.
I think Nowak is going to be a very good choice come the run for 2018. He is growing is knowledge base of all US soccer.This is one of the hidden benefits of MLS. It is not just about player development. Getting a guy like Nowak to come over later in his career, treat the league seriously and then stick around after will have literally years and years of continued benefit to all US soccer.Sadly for every Nowak, we probably get 2-3 dinks like Mattheus.
 
Looks like the David Silva move to City is done. I have money riding on City getting silverware in the next two seasons so I'm happy about this (even though I kinda hate them and don't like what they are doing). I actually would have preferred Di Silva but it appears he is going to Real.

 

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