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As a fan of soccer in the EPL rather than one particular team, it pains me to hear that Cesc AND Walcott went down yesterday. I do truly enjoy watching Arsenal play even if their pitter-pat passing in the box can get frustrating as well as their- as Christo described- lack of steel through the middle/back... or as a team. But I want/enjoy seeing them play at their best, and they just don't play at their best without those two players.

Now we'll get to see what kind of mettle they hvae as a team. Doesn't this seem to happen every year- Arsenal contends and then gets injuries and tailspins out of contention while United somehow puts up patchwork teams and finds a way to get results?

 
Arsenal has been already been without Cesc and Walcott (and Van Persie) for significant stretches of the season. It hurts because the Van Persie, Walcott, Cesc, Nasri combo has shown the perfect attacking balance for the way Arsenal wants to play (and because Walcott has improved immeasurably this year), but I imagine they'll just move Nasri inside to Cesc's place, put Arshavin in Nasri's and maybe Rosicky or Eboue out on the wing. Wilshere will probably get forward a bit more like he did in the beginning of the season.

If United can throw Chris Smalling out there, Arsenal can survive a week or two like this.

 
As a fan of soccer in the EPL rather than one particular team, it pains me to hear that Cesc AND Walcott went down yesterday. I do truly enjoy watching Arsenal play even if their pitter-pat passing in the box can get frustrating as well as their- as Christo described- lack of steel through the middle/back... or as a team. But I want/enjoy seeing them play at their best, and they just don't play at their best without those two players.

Now we'll get to see what kind of mettle they hvae as a team. Doesn't this seem to happen every year- Arsenal contends and then gets injuries and tailspins out of contention while United somehow puts up patchwork teams and finds a way to get results?
I recall a game earlier this season in which Arsenal featured their all-French backline - ugly man, ugly.
 
I have to double check this but I think for the first time ever David Beckham will start the season with the Galaxy available to play and healthy.

He rejoined the team for training yesterday.

 
Even NASCAR has THE CHASEI don't see why MLS just didn't do an 8 team playoff.
Is NASCAR a sport? oh wait, thats a different thread..... :thumbdown: Arsenal will have a tough time with those two out. However, the mark of a great team is being able to survive these injuries and issues. United, Green Bay, etc all find away. And Smalling has shown to be solid... but really how hard can it be when you play next to potential POY Vidic??
 
It still amazes me that Walcott wasn't brought to WC2010. I'm not sad though as I really enjoy seeing England fail. Shame that it came at the hands of ze Germans.

 
It still amazes me that Walcott wasn't brought to WC2010. I'm not sad though as I really enjoy seeing England fail. Shame that it came at the hands of ze Germans.
He wasn't in very good form and was constantly injured. I was more surprised that Adam Johnson didn't make it.At this time last year, Theo Walcott was a blazingly fast winger who couldn't cross the ball because he never lifted his head.Today he's much more accomplished at cutting inside as the "inside forward" in Arsenal's withdrawn 4-3-3 (more of a 4-2-1-2-1, actually) and in actually looking up and picking out his man.
 
http://espn.go.com/sports/soccer/news/_/id/6157743/thanks-david-beckham

Thanks for nothing, Becks

By David Hirshey

Special to ESPN.com

Great news, everybody: David Beckham is back!

Remember when those words meant something? When the thought of Becks stepping onto an American soccer field made your heart soar because he was going to transform the Los Angeles Galaxy into the second coming of the Cosmos? When it was presumed he would spread the gospel of MLS around the world, just as Pelé did with the NASL back in the day?

Yeah, I remember those 20 minutes too.

But here's what actually has happened in the four years since Becks descended from the soccer heavens, Goldenballs ex machina, onto L.A.'s field of dreams:

1. The Galaxy sold a lot of tickets and jerseys.

2. The gospel that Becks spread was his own.

So, for most people -- at least those not employed by the Galaxy's merchandising department -- the news that Beckham is finally returning from his headline-grabbing, middle-finger-to-MLS sojourn with Spurs is not exactly a reason to pop the Cristal.

It's no secret that Becks would much rather remain in the warm bosom of Harry Redknapp, with whom he has been training since January, after AEG -- the consortium that owns the Galaxy -- wisely blocked his bid for a loan. The fear was that Beckham would injure himself playing for Spurs, as he did so spectacularly last season while on loan at AC Milan.

The Galaxy grudgingly agreed to let Beckham train with Tottenham until Feb. 9, when he was due to report to L.A.'s preseason camp with the rest of his teammates. But the Englishman's handlers coerced the Galaxy into letting him continue his training with Spurs until Feb. 22 because, well … he's David Beckham.

"My main objective was to get fit for the Galaxy and for the MLS season," Becks said in his own defense upon reporting to L.A.'s training camp Thursday. "My main objective wasn't to play for a Premiership team."

Sorry, I don't buy it. Even though, according to the MLS Players Union, AEG is paying him a reported $32 million over five years, Beckham's primary loyalty is to himself -- not the Galaxy, the MLS or even Tom Cruise.

Not that he isn't a charmer.

The two times that I've spoken with Beckham -- I was the American editor on his autobiography -- he couldn't have been more gracious and affable. It's no wonder England chose to trot him out for its (successful) Olympics bid and (failed) World Cup bid. After all, if you're looking to present your best face to the world, who are you going to select, John Terry?

From every account, Becks threw himself into his role of England's soccer ambassador with far greater urgency than any recent tackle, shaking hands and playing footsie with foreign dignitaries who couldn't wait to have their picture taken with him before voting for Russia.

So yes, Beckham is enormously charismatic, generous with his time and adopts very few of the airs that we associate with a pampered superstar. He even played Sir Galahad during his most recent stay abroad, when he rescued a family whose car had broken down on a roundabout near his 17-acre home, Beckingham Palace. So grateful was the driver for Beckham's help pushing his car out of harm's way that, according to the English press, he blurted out, "Thank you, David. I love you, mate!"

If only Beckham displayed this type of leadership and commitment toward his Galaxy teammates and benefactors.

As FIFA's next president, Grant Wahl, revealed in his terrific book "The Beckham Experiment," one night in Los Angeles, Becks didn't even pick up the check at a Galaxy team dinner that included several young players earning less than what he pays for his hair gel. Then this past winter, he scampered over to North London all but begging for a loan to Spurs. Fearing another calamitous injury, AEG set the loan fee and insurance requirements at such exorbitant levels that Goldenballs was reduced to training with Spurs.

Of course, there's still time for Beckham to show his true talent on the American stage and produce one final season of set-piece excellence. But he'll need to stay both fully fit and focused on playing for the team that signs his checks. And what are the odds of that happening, especially with Prince William's wedding coming up in late April?

Becks is wise enough, though, to never make the same mistake twice. So this past week, just before he was dragged kicking and screaming from White Hart Lane, he sprung for a pie-and-mash feast as a farewell gift to his fellow Spurs players. Never mind that Redknapp later explained "the foreign lads were not sure what to make of" the blue-collar British delicacy. It was the thought that counted, and you can bet your Spice Girls CD collection that a fellow Cockney like Redknapp, who confessed to inhaling three meat pies, will remember the gesture when Beckham's Galaxy contract is up in November. "You couldn't meet a nicer fellow, absolutely a top-class person," 'Arry said, tiptoeing right up to the ever-popular "Thank you, David. I love you, mate!" line.

Alas, the BLQ (Beckham Love Quotient) is not quite as high on this side of the pond. In America, Beckham was supposed to be the MLS Moses, the prophet who would rescue the league from the scorn and derision of the rest of the world. But injuries and a wanderlust for pseudo-England appearances (he is so obsessed with his place in the hierarchy of most-capped English players that he has been willing to fly 3,000 miles to make a 15-minute cameo), have conspired to keep Beckham from having the same impact on the field as he has had off it, where he has sold more tickets and jerseys than all other MLS players combined.

As for his contributions actually playing for the Galaxy, the numbers tell the story, and it isn't pretty:

Two MLS games (no goals) in 2007, thanks to a sprained MCL; 25 games (five goals) in 2008-09 despite the never-been-done-but-we'll-make-an-exception-for-Becks "timeshare" deal with Milan; 15 games (two goals) in 2009, and then the shredded Achilles that kept him out of all but the Galaxy's last eight matches. That adds up to 50 games -- or barely 40 percent of the total minutes -- he could have played since joining the club.

Of course, there's still time for Beckham to show his true talent on the American stage and produce one final season of set-piece excellence. But he'll need to stay both fully fit and focused on playing for the team that signs his checks. And what are the odds of that happening, especially with Prince William's wedding coming up in late April?

Surprisingly, the staunchest defender of Becks' most recent disappearing act came from his onetime most-vocal critic, teammate Landon Donovan. In an interview with Soccer America, the Galaxy's leader said, "David is doing what he thinks is right for himself, and none of us should judge that."

David Beckham

Fabrice Coffrini/AFP/Getty ImagesIf David Beckham had embraced his role as Galaxy midfielder and MLS ambassador with the same care as he did England's Olympic and World Cup bids, his stateside stint might be a happier story.

Sure, but if every player did what he thought was right for himself and felt that he would play better if, say, he went clubbing all night and slept until midday on normal training days, or hiked the Himalayas with his personal Sherpa to strengthen his legs, then there would be no need for preseason camp. Obviously, it's Becks' drum, and Bruce Arena and the rest of the Galaxy gang just march along to it.

"The thing about David that's actually different from a lot of the other older guys is that he genuinely loves to play," Donovan added. "You can see it. He trains like a 20-year-old who's trying to make the team. That's infectious; guys see that and guys like that."

With that kind of circle-the-wagons support, it begs the question as to why the 35-year-old midfielder chose to train away from the warmth and glamour of Southern California? There are two perfectly reasonable answers: Beckham obviously has a low regard for the level of soccer within MLS, so much so that he feels he can only get fit and sharp by cozying up to EPL players (Arsenal last winter and now the other club in North London). And, no doubt, Becks has one eye on what will happen after his Galaxy contract runs out. The more chances he had to impress the Spurs brain trust, the better shot he has of wearing a Tottenham jersey in the middle of the next EPL season.

More importantly, with Redknapp very much in the running to inherit the post-Fabio Capello national team, who knows how far Beckham's latest ingratiating dance might take him?

But for the next nine months -- unless, of course, he gets injured! -- Beckham and the MLS are stuck with each another. You'd think he might want to go out the same way he arrived, on a wave of hype and hope. But the whole thing feels to me like a drive-by, as if Becks is simply making a guest appearance at the Home Depot Center on his way to his EPL revival show. That's hardly fair to either Galaxy fans or the MLS. As far as I'm concerned, Becks can live out the twilight of his once-blinding career in the bleariness of North London.

The pie and mash is on me.

David Hirshey has been covering soccer for more than 30 years and has written about the sport for The New York Times, Time, ESPN The Magazine and Deadspin. He is the co-author of "The ESPN World Cup Companion" and played himself (almost convincingly) in the acclaimed soccer documentary "Once in a Lifetime."

 
http://espn.go.com/sports/soccer/news/_/id/6157743/thanks-david-beckham

Thanks for nothing, Becks

By David Hirshey

Special to ESPN.com

Great news, everybody: David Beckham is back!

Remember when those words meant something? When the thought of Becks stepping onto an American soccer field made your heart soar because he was going to transform the Los Angeles Galaxy into the second coming of the Cosmos? When it was presumed he would spread the gospel of MLS around the world, just as Pelé did with the NASL back in the day?

Yeah, I remember those 20 minutes too.

But here's what actually has happened in the four years since Becks descended from the soccer heavens, Goldenballs ex machina, onto L.A.'s field of dreams:

1. The Galaxy sold a lot of tickets and jerseys.

2. The gospel that Becks spread was his own.

So, for most people -- at least those not employed by the Galaxy's merchandising department -- the news that Beckham is finally returning from his headline-grabbing, middle-finger-to-MLS sojourn with Spurs is not exactly a reason to pop the Cristal.

It's no secret that Becks would much rather remain in the warm bosom of Harry Redknapp, with whom he has been training since January, after AEG -- the consortium that owns the Galaxy -- wisely blocked his bid for a loan. The fear was that Beckham would injure himself playing for Spurs, as he did so spectacularly last season while on loan at AC Milan.

The Galaxy grudgingly agreed to let Beckham train with Tottenham until Feb. 9, when he was due to report to L.A.'s preseason camp with the rest of his teammates. But the Englishman's handlers coerced the Galaxy into letting him continue his training with Spurs until Feb. 22 because, well … he's David Beckham.

"My main objective was to get fit for the Galaxy and for the MLS season," Becks said in his own defense upon reporting to L.A.'s training camp Thursday. "My main objective wasn't to play for a Premiership team."

Sorry, I don't buy it. Even though, according to the MLS Players Union, AEG is paying him a reported $32 million over five years, Beckham's primary loyalty is to himself -- not the Galaxy, the MLS or even Tom Cruise.

Not that he isn't a charmer.

The two times that I've spoken with Beckham -- I was the American editor on his autobiography -- he couldn't have been more gracious and affable. It's no wonder England chose to trot him out for its (successful) Olympics bid and (failed) World Cup bid. After all, if you're looking to present your best face to the world, who are you going to select, John Terry?

From every account, Becks threw himself into his role of England's soccer ambassador with far greater urgency than any recent tackle, shaking hands and playing footsie with foreign dignitaries who couldn't wait to have their picture taken with him before voting for Russia.

So yes, Beckham is enormously charismatic, generous with his time and adopts very few of the airs that we associate with a pampered superstar. He even played Sir Galahad during his most recent stay abroad, when he rescued a family whose car had broken down on a roundabout near his 17-acre home, Beckingham Palace. So grateful was the driver for Beckham's help pushing his car out of harm's way that, according to the English press, he blurted out, "Thank you, David. I love you, mate!"

If only Beckham displayed this type of leadership and commitment toward his Galaxy teammates and benefactors.

As FIFA's next president, Grant Wahl, revealed in his terrific book "The Beckham Experiment," one night in Los Angeles, Becks didn't even pick up the check at a Galaxy team dinner that included several young players earning less than what he pays for his hair gel. Then this past winter, he scampered over to North London all but begging for a loan to Spurs. Fearing another calamitous injury, AEG set the loan fee and insurance requirements at such exorbitant levels that Goldenballs was reduced to training with Spurs.

Of course, there's still time for Beckham to show his true talent on the American stage and produce one final season of set-piece excellence. But he'll need to stay both fully fit and focused on playing for the team that signs his checks. And what are the odds of that happening, especially with Prince William's wedding coming up in late April?

Becks is wise enough, though, to never make the same mistake twice. So this past week, just before he was dragged kicking and screaming from White Hart Lane, he sprung for a pie-and-mash feast as a farewell gift to his fellow Spurs players. Never mind that Redknapp later explained "the foreign lads were not sure what to make of" the blue-collar British delicacy. It was the thought that counted, and you can bet your Spice Girls CD collection that a fellow Cockney like Redknapp, who confessed to inhaling three meat pies, will remember the gesture when Beckham's Galaxy contract is up in November. "You couldn't meet a nicer fellow, absolutely a top-class person," 'Arry said, tiptoeing right up to the ever-popular "Thank you, David. I love you, mate!" line.

Alas, the BLQ (Beckham Love Quotient) is not quite as high on this side of the pond. In America, Beckham was supposed to be the MLS Moses, the prophet who would rescue the league from the scorn and derision of the rest of the world. But injuries and a wanderlust for pseudo-England appearances (he is so obsessed with his place in the hierarchy of most-capped English players that he has been willing to fly 3,000 miles to make a 15-minute cameo), have conspired to keep Beckham from having the same impact on the field as he has had off it, where he has sold more tickets and jerseys than all other MLS players combined.

As for his contributions actually playing for the Galaxy, the numbers tell the story, and it isn't pretty:

Two MLS games (no goals) in 2007, thanks to a sprained MCL; 25 games (five goals) in 2008-09 despite the never-been-done-but-we'll-make-an-exception-for-Becks "timeshare" deal with Milan; 15 games (two goals) in 2009, and then the shredded Achilles that kept him out of all but the Galaxy's last eight matches. That adds up to 50 games -- or barely 40 percent of the total minutes -- he could have played since joining the club.

Of course, there's still time for Beckham to show his true talent on the American stage and produce one final season of set-piece excellence. But he'll need to stay both fully fit and focused on playing for the team that signs his checks. And what are the odds of that happening, especially with Prince William's wedding coming up in late April?

Surprisingly, the staunchest defender of Becks' most recent disappearing act came from his onetime most-vocal critic, teammate Landon Donovan. In an interview with Soccer America, the Galaxy's leader said, "David is doing what he thinks is right for himself, and none of us should judge that."

David Beckham

Fabrice Coffrini/AFP/Getty ImagesIf David Beckham had embraced his role as Galaxy midfielder and MLS ambassador with the same care as he did England's Olympic and World Cup bids, his stateside stint might be a happier story.

Sure, but if every player did what he thought was right for himself and felt that he would play better if, say, he went clubbing all night and slept until midday on normal training days, or hiked the Himalayas with his personal Sherpa to strengthen his legs, then there would be no need for preseason camp. Obviously, it's Becks' drum, and Bruce Arena and the rest of the Galaxy gang just march along to it.

"The thing about David that's actually different from a lot of the other older guys is that he genuinely loves to play," Donovan added. "You can see it. He trains like a 20-year-old who's trying to make the team. That's infectious; guys see that and guys like that."

With that kind of circle-the-wagons support, it begs the question as to why the 35-year-old midfielder chose to train away from the warmth and glamour of Southern California? There are two perfectly reasonable answers: Beckham obviously has a low regard for the level of soccer within MLS, so much so that he feels he can only get fit and sharp by cozying up to EPL players (Arsenal last winter and now the other club in North London). And, no doubt, Becks has one eye on what will happen after his Galaxy contract runs out. The more chances he had to impress the Spurs brain trust, the better shot he has of wearing a Tottenham jersey in the middle of the next EPL season.

More importantly, with Redknapp very much in the running to inherit the post-Fabio Capello national team, who knows how far Beckham's latest ingratiating dance might take him?

But for the next nine months -- unless, of course, he gets injured! -- Beckham and the MLS are stuck with each another. You'd think he might want to go out the same way he arrived, on a wave of hype and hope. But the whole thing feels to me like a drive-by, as if Becks is simply making a guest appearance at the Home Depot Center on his way to his EPL revival show. That's hardly fair to either Galaxy fans or the MLS. As far as I'm concerned, Becks can live out the twilight of his once-blinding career in the bleariness of North London.

The pie and mash is on me.

David Hirshey has been covering soccer for more than 30 years and has written about the sport for The New York Times, Time, ESPN The Magazine and Deadspin. He is the co-author of "The ESPN World Cup Companion" and played himself (almost convincingly) in the acclaimed soccer documentary "Once in a Lifetime."
Was just reading this and had to laugh at the author. After writing such a great piece on Cantona, he comes up with this poor effort. The biggest problem for the Galaxy and their fans is that David Beckham was mismarketed by the MLS. He was never a goal scoring machine. Outside the free kicks and the half field luck, he isnt a goal scorer.

As for his contributions actually playing for the Galaxy, the numbers tell the story, and it isn't pretty:

Two MLS games (no goals) in 2007, thanks to a sprained MCL; 25 games (five goals) in 2008-09 despite the never-been-done-but-we'll-make-an-exception-for-Becks "timeshare" deal with Milan; 15 games (two goals) in 2009, and then the shredded Achilles that kept him out of all but the Galaxy's last eight matches. That adds up to 50 games -- or barely 40 percent of the total minutes -- he could have played since joining the club

What he fails to mention is the 17 or so assists that he had in those same games. Not great, but a better indicator then of Beckhams play then goals. The writer falls into the trap set up by the MLS: Becks vs Pele, setup man vs scoring legend.

Becks, in his move to Real and then to LA, was nothing more then a marketing move. Madrid didnt want him for his skills, they had the galacticos! They wanted him so they could catch United as the top team as far as world recognition and make more money overseas, esp in Asia. He sells shirts, the chicks dig him, and occasionally he comes up with a fantasic free kick and scores. He doesnt play defense (imo he and teammate donovan play the same position, outside mid) and has been overrated for years.

For a writer boasting these credentials David Hirshey has been covering soccer for more than 30 years and has written about the sport for The New York Times, Time, ESPN The Magazine and Deadspin. He is the co-author of "The ESPN World Cup Companion" and played himself (almost convincingly) in the acclaimed soccer documentary "Once in a Lifetime."

I am a little disappointed.

 
Evidentially Baby Spice was David Hirshey's favorite Spice Girl
:lmao: A nice article on Cherundolo and his Hannover squad in the NYTimes- funny... I thought they were in relegation problems- or was that last year?

February 25, 2011, 4:29 PM

In Germany, Cherundolo’s Hannover Surprises

By JACK BELL

Matthias Schrader/European Pressphoto Agency

Steve Cherundolo tried to dispossess Bayern Munich’s Claudio Pizzaro in a Bundesliga game in November 2004. Cherundolo has played his entire professional career for Hannover 96 and is now the club’s captain.

By most yardsticks, Steve Cherundolo’s 32nd birthday last Saturday was pretty darn good.

His Hannover 96 club in the German Bundesliga, one of the surprises of the season, shut out Kaiserslautern, 3-0, and progressed to third place in the standings, only one point behind powerhouse Bayern Munich.

“It was an excellent birthday present, and getting a good win on my birthday made it that much better,” Cherundolo said during a telephone interview as he and the club prepared for a trip up the E45 Autobahn to Hamburg for Saturday’s match against St. Pauli. “Of course my teammates knew it was my birthday and did a good job of congratulating me. And as I said, a win made for an even better day.

“I had dinner with my wife, sat down with family afterward and just took it easy. I didn’t really celebrate too much because 32 isn’t exactly a round number.”

One week after playing St. Pauli, Hannover will host Bayern Munich in perhaps the biggest game of the season, to that point. Victories the next two weeks might give Hannover visions of dashing past the Europa League and claiming one of the Bundesliga berths in the Champions League, especially because UEFA on Friday stripped Italy of one of its guaranteed spots and gave it to the Bundesliga. Dreams between the touchlines.

Cherundolo, a steely right back, counts himself among some of the most accomplished Americans in Europe — he is Hannover’s captain, a honor not to be underestimated, and he has played his entire professional career with the club in northwest Germany. He joined Die Roten (the Reds) in 1999 when it was in the 2. Bundesliga (the country’s second division) and has been around since.

There have been ups and downs, but never as many ups as this season under a new coach, Mirko Slomko. But no one, Cherundolo included, expected this superlative season.

“If you had asked me in the beginning of the season if we’d be fourth after 23 games, I would have said no way,” Cherundolo said. “But with all the work we put in the preseason and during the winter break, perhaps I shouldn’t be surprised. We worked very hard on our tactical awareness, getting it perfect before games, being aware of the opponent and just being prepared.”

He said that the attention to detail and preparation had allowed Hannover to start strong in its Bundesliga matches. It has outscored the opposition, 6-2, in the first 15 minutes of its matches.

“Any time you can get up in a game by one or two goals, it’s easier for a team like us where we can then sit back and counterattack,” Cherundolo. “It’s been a goal of ours to go up, 1-0, 2-0. It makes the game a lot easier. Yes, that’s something we emphasize, but it’s certainly not the only way to win a game.

“We just don’t want to react to the other team, we want to push and try and get up. A lot of teams wait and wait and wait because 0-0 is O.K. with them. We want to push the issue. We don’t want to play ties. We want to win games.”

Eugene Hoshiko/Associated Press

Cherundolo after Landon Donovan’s goal against Algeria sent the U.S. to the second round of the 2010 World Cup in South Africa. He has played more than 60 times for the national team and said he hopes to be part of the team for the 2014 tournament in Brazil.

Cherundolo acknowledged that last season was immensely difficult. Hannover hovered near relegation as first Coach Dieter Hecking resigned, replaced by the former assistant Andreas Bergmann, who gave way to Slomko. Hannover escaped what could have been a soul-destroying drop with a decisive win on the last day of the season to finish 2 points ahead of Nurnberg.

But worse than the struggles on the field was the absolute shock of the suicide of Hannover’s popular national team goalkeeper Robert Enke. After a long battle with depression, Enke stood on railroad tracks and was hit by a train.

“It was a very testing year,” Cherundolo said. “We could have gone down to the second division. And with what also happened, it was very difficult for us. It was a learning experience for all of us. At times we were scared because we didn’t want to fail. At other times we were proud of overcoming the situation.”

He is in his first season as the captain (Cherundolo was a co-captain last season) after 12 seasons with the club. Cherundolo mentioned other possibilities, outside the Bundesliga, but said each time it was time to negotiate a contract, Hannover remained the best and most comfortable fit.

“The club continues to grow and I continue to grow as a person and as a player,” he said. “I never saw any reason to change clubs and start over new someplace else. But I realize that at some point one of us will no longer be present, and most likely it’s going to be me. I hope to hang on a few more years.”

How much longer does he plan to play? And where?

“As long as my legs will carry me, I love playing,” he said. “It’s fun playing for this club and challenging myself at this level. As long as I can handle and contribute. When I feel that my time has passed in Germany, I would definitely like to play in M.L.S., though I’m not sure with which team.”

Cherundolo grew up in San Diego and played a couple of years in college at the University of Portland.

And after being a fixture at right back, first for the national team coach Bruce Arena, now for Bob Bradley, Cherundolo said he had no plans of “hanging up my international boots.”

“I would love to play in the next World Cup,” he said. “As long as I can contribute to the national team, I would love to be part of it and hope Bob thinks the same way. But if my time’s up, my time’s up.”
 
This weekend's "big games" per the NYtimes.If anybody's followed Serie A this year, Napoli has been a really fun team to watch, especially up front.

February 25, 2011, 12:05 PMThis Weekend’s Top Soccer MatchupsBy ROB HUGHESChristof Stache/Agence France-Presse — Getty ImagesArjen Robben, left, and Franck Ribery are at last fit to start on the wings for Bayern Munich.SaturdayBayern Munich vs. Borussia DortmundThe Bundesliga champion last season, Bayern, hosts its potential successor, Dortmund, with a mission to delay if not destroy.The Muncheners, with Arjen Robben and Franck Ribéry at last fit to start on the wings, were told not to party after an away victory against the European champion, Inter, on Wednesday.‘‘Dortmund will be more difficult than Inter,’’ Bayern coach Louis van Gaal said. ‘‘We will be carrying the Inter game in our legs when we take on Dortmund and that makes it harder for us. But if our president says we must win, then we have to do it.’’Victory would leave Munich still 10 points behind Dortmund, with 10 matches to play. Defeat would virtually surrender the title. Dortmund, however, has a goalkeeper problem. Regular goalie Roman Weidenfeller has a knee ligament injury, and his backup, the 22-year-old Australian Mitchell Langerak, faces a league debut at Munich’s 69,000-capacity Allianz Arena.Mallorca vs. BarcelonaAll season long, the question mark against Barça was what would happen if its small, but perfectly formed, squad were beset by injuries? Now, against the Balearic Island team craftily set up by former Barcelona player Michael Laudrup, that situation arises.Goalkeeper Victor Valdés, captain and defender Carles Puyol and play maker Xavi are injured. Wing back Daniel Alves is suspended. Lionel Messi is hurting but willing to perform. The depth of the Barcelona squad faces Mallorca, one of just three Spanish teams to take points off it this season. Using coach Laudrup’s inside knowledge of how Barcelona works, Mallorca drew,1-1, at the Camp Nou last October.Another draw, or a defeat, might only encourage Real Madrid to close the gap at the top of La Liga.Boca Juniors vs. All BoysArgentina’s season has barely begun, but Juan Riquelme has already become the lightning rod.The talented but temperamental play maker figured in Boca’s shocking 4-1 home defeat to Godoy Cruz on the opening day, then sat out Boca’s 1-0 away victory over Racing Club. His injured ankle is mended, but the 32-year-old Riquelme is not named for the game Saturday at La Bombonera stadium against the promoted Buenos Aires team All Boys. It seems Riquelme has lost no time in criticising the tactics of Boca’s coach Julio Falcioni. Asked if he liked the new coach, Riquelme said, ‘‘No, I prefer women.’’ Asked why Riquelme was not selected this weekend, Falcioni said: ‘‘Boca hired me to make big decisions. The team played well, and my decision is to keep it.’’SundayArsenal vs. Birmingham CityPlenty of big matches in England’s Premier league this weekend, but this is something different. It is Birmingham’s first appearance at Wembley Stadium for 55 years, and the Carling Cup final is its first opportunity to win a trophy under the ownership of the Hong Kong businessman Carson Yeung.The contest is also Arsenal’s first chance to win something in six years — and while this is a minor trophy to a team chasing Premier League and European glory, a final is a final. Birmingham will be up for it in typical, high gusto fashion. Arsenal will try to win it with sophistication, despite the loss through injury of captain Cesc Fabregas and winger Theo Walcott.MondayA.C. Milan vs. NapoliFirst plays second in Serie A, a match made for television and a night at the San Siro that could be decisive in Italy’s season.Milan is still in transition, but still top as coach Massimiliano Allegri tries to shape the side to his own design. Napoli, though, is the form team of Italy, rising in the south off the back of six victories in seven games. Its prolific striking trident of Edinson Cavani, Ezequiel Lavezzi and Marek Hamsik is weakened by Lavezzi’s three match suspension for spitting.‘‘There is nothing we can do,’’ said Napoli coach Walter Mazzarri. ‘‘Lavezzi is one of our key figures, he is taken away from us at the crucial stage of the season. It leaves a bitter taste.’’
 
Was just reading this and had to laugh at the author. After writing such a great piece on Cantona, he comes up with this poor effort. The biggest problem for the Galaxy and their fans is that David Beckham was mismarketed by the MLS. He was never a goal scoring machine. Outside the free kicks and the half field luck, he isnt a goal scorer.

As for his contributions actually playing for the Galaxy, the numbers tell the story, and it isn't pretty:

Two MLS games (no goals) in 2007, thanks to a sprained MCL; 25 games (five goals) in 2008-09 despite the never-been-done-but-we'll-make-an-exception-for-Becks "timeshare" deal with Milan; 15 games (two goals) in 2009, and then the shredded Achilles that kept him out of all but the Galaxy's last eight matches. That adds up to 50 games -- or barely 40 percent of the total minutes -- he could have played since joining the club

What he fails to mention is the 17 or so assists that he had in those same games. Not great, but a better indicator then of Beckhams play then goals. The writer falls into the trap set up by the MLS: Becks vs Pele, setup man vs scoring legend.
I agree entirely about mentioning the goals (or lack there of). The piece could have been written with out that mention.However he was spot on in Becks constant middle finger giving to the Galaxy and to MLS.

Old friend Alexi Lalas can be blamed for some of this. Had he put his foot down in year one instead of Lalas bending over at every single chance he could, maybe it would have been different. Interestingly, Lalas did similar things to the Revs when he first play for them back in 1996, leaving the team at a drop of a hat.

 
Evidentially Baby Spice was David Hirshey's favorite Spice Girl
:goodposting: A nice article on Cherundolo and his Hannover squad in the NYTimes- funny... I thought they were in relegation problems- or was that last year?
Twas last year. From the article"Cherundolo acknowledged that last season was immensely difficult. Hannover hovered near relegation as first Coach Dieter Hecking resigned, replaced by the former assistant Andreas Bergmann, who gave way to Slomko. Hannover escaped what could have been a soul-destroying drop with a decisive win on the last day of the season to finish 2 points ahead of Nurnberg."

He has to hold the record for most years of an American playing with the same team in Europe right? Friedel, Reyna, and Keller all changed teams a ton of times.

And while looking up Brad Friedel, did you guys know that he declared bankruptcy? Guess its safe to say he is going to be playing soccer a while longer if this is true. MLS at 44 :thumbup:

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LORAIN — Bay Village native and soccer standout Brad Friedel has declared bankruptcy in the United Kingdom, according to a report in London’s Daily Mirror newspaper.

Meanwhile, foreclosure against the soccer academy he founded in Lorain, Premier Soccer Academies, has been approved by the Lorain County Common Pleas Court.

Friedel is a goalie for the Aston Villa team. Reportedly, he has debts of almost 5 million pounds, equal to about $7.96 million, according to the British report. Soccer Ventures and Friedel owe more than $8.18 million to RBS Citizens National Association in the 2009 foreclosure lawsuit filed by the bank, according to the ruling in Lorain County.

 
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Evidentially Baby Spice was David Hirshey's favorite Spice Girl
:wub: A nice article on Cherundolo and his Hannover squad in the NYTimes- funny... I thought they were in relegation problems- or was that last year?
Twas last year. From the article"Cherundolo acknowledged that last season was immensely difficult. Hannover hovered near relegation as first Coach Dieter Hecking resigned, replaced by the former assistant Andreas Bergmann, who gave way to Slomko. Hannover escaped what could have been a soul-destroying drop with a decisive win on the last day of the season to finish 2 points ahead of Nurnberg."

He has to hold the record for most years of an American playing with the same team in Europe right? Friedel, Reyna, and Keller all changed teams a ton of times.

And while looking up Brad Friedel, did you guys know that he declared bankruptcy? Guess its safe to say he is going to be playing soccer a while longer if this is true. MLS at 44 :)

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LORAIN — Bay Village native and soccer standout Brad Friedel has declared bankruptcy in the United Kingdom, according to a report in London’s Daily Mirror newspaper.

Meanwhile, foreclosure against the soccer academy he founded in Lorain, Premier Soccer Academies, has been approved by the Lorain County Common Pleas Court.

Friedel is a goalie for the Aston Villa team. Reportedly, he has debts of almost 5 million pounds, equal to about $7.96 million, according to the British report. Soccer Ventures and Friedel owe more than $8.18 million to RBS Citizens National Association in the 2009 foreclosure lawsuit filed by the bank, according to the ruling in Lorain County.
Friedel :thumbdown: wtf...
 
Evidentially Baby Spice was David Hirshey's favorite Spice Girl
:wub: A nice article on Cherundolo and his Hannover squad in the NYTimes- funny... I thought they were in relegation problems- or was that last year?
Twas last year. From the article"Cherundolo acknowledged that last season was immensely difficult. Hannover hovered near relegation as first Coach Dieter Hecking resigned, replaced by the former assistant Andreas Bergmann, who gave way to Slomko. Hannover escaped what could have been a soul-destroying drop with a decisive win on the last day of the season to finish 2 points ahead of Nurnberg."

He has to hold the record for most years of an American playing with the same team in Europe right? Friedel, Reyna, and Keller all changed teams a ton of times.

And while looking up Brad Friedel, did you guys know that he declared bankruptcy? Guess its safe to say he is going to be playing soccer a while longer if this is true. MLS at 44 :)

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LORAIN — Bay Village native and soccer standout Brad Friedel has declared bankruptcy in the United Kingdom, according to a report in London’s Daily Mirror newspaper.

Meanwhile, foreclosure against the soccer academy he founded in Lorain, Premier Soccer Academies, has been approved by the Lorain County Common Pleas Court.

Friedel is a goalie for the Aston Villa team. Reportedly, he has debts of almost 5 million pounds, equal to about $7.96 million, according to the British report. Soccer Ventures and Friedel owe more than $8.18 million to RBS Citizens National Association in the 2009 foreclosure lawsuit filed by the bank, according to the ruling in Lorain County.
Friedel :thumbdown: wtf...
It always amazes me how many athletes get into money trouble.
 
Evidentially Baby Spice was David Hirshey's favorite Spice Girl
:wub: A nice article on Cherundolo and his Hannover squad in the NYTimes- funny... I thought they were in relegation problems- or was that last year?
Twas last year. From the article"Cherundolo acknowledged that last season was immensely difficult. Hannover hovered near relegation as first Coach Dieter Hecking resigned, replaced by the former assistant Andreas Bergmann, who gave way to Slomko. Hannover escaped what could have been a soul-destroying drop with a decisive win on the last day of the season to finish 2 points ahead of Nurnberg."

He has to hold the record for most years of an American playing with the same team in Europe right? Friedel, Reyna, and Keller all changed teams a ton of times.

And while looking up Brad Friedel, did you guys know that he declared bankruptcy? Guess its safe to say he is going to be playing soccer a while longer if this is true. MLS at 44 :)

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LORAIN — Bay Village native and soccer standout Brad Friedel has declared bankruptcy in the United Kingdom, according to a report in London’s Daily Mirror newspaper.

Meanwhile, foreclosure against the soccer academy he founded in Lorain, Premier Soccer Academies, has been approved by the Lorain County Common Pleas Court.

Friedel is a goalie for the Aston Villa team. Reportedly, he has debts of almost 5 million pounds, equal to about $7.96 million, according to the British report. Soccer Ventures and Friedel owe more than $8.18 million to RBS Citizens National Association in the 2009 foreclosure lawsuit filed by the bank, according to the ruling in Lorain County.
Friedel :thumbup: wtf...
It always amazes me how many athletes get into money trouble.
Insanity. Did he buy Hogwarts castle or something? Jeebus... I'm a maroon with money, but I'll never get spending that much more than you've got. It sucks that his soccer academy has to pay for it... but I doubt it's a not-for-profit, so I guess it doesn't suck that much (or at least makes sense).
 
Interesting match up this morning. ManU at Wigan. One trying to win it all. The other trying to stave off relegation. I wonder how strong of a line up Ferguson throws out there?

 
Its going to be fairly terrible having to deal with Javier Hernandez for the next ~12 years when we play Mexico.

 
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Talk about an implosion by Wigan. They go toe-to-toe for 70 minutes. ManU had the run of play but the game easily could have been tied at that point. But then they appear to lose interest in the game and get sliced open. :goodposting:

 
Talk about an implosion by Wigan. They go toe-to-toe for 70 minutes. ManU had the run of play but the game easily could have been tied at that point. But then they appear to lose interest in the game and get sliced open. :goodposting:
I know, right? United never does that to it's opponents.
 
Its going to be fairly terrible having to deal with Javier Hernandez for the next ~12 years when we play Mexico.
yeah- ugh.I had thought he was more of an opportunistic poacher- but he showed some great strength/fight and touch to win that long ball with a guy on his back- direct it perfectly to Rooney, and then spin brilliantly off his defender, perfectly take the through the ball with his first touch and finish.btw- Vela scored his first goal while out on loan. No idea what's happened to Dos Santos (googled just now- on loan... again... to Racing Santander).The US just needs to finish top 3- that should be our mantra. If we can get a result here or there against Mexico- :confetti:
 
Talk about an implosion by Wigan. They go toe-to-toe for 70 minutes. ManU had the run of play but the game easily could have been tied at that point. But then they appear to lose interest in the game and get sliced open. :goodposting:
I know, right? United never does that to it's opponents.
It's not like they had their A team out there.
:)Your :lmao: smilie made it seem like this is hard to imagine... seems like this game was pretty much the same game I see United play every week. Even for most of hte 90, and then eventually wear down the opposition and add some well timed/taken finishes at the end. Kinda like the US against regional competition.
 
It's been over a month, so I thought I'd bump these:

So who do you guys think is getting sent down at the end of the year?IMO,West HamBirminghamWigan
I'll go with:West HamAston VillaWest Brom
My bet as of right now would beWBAHamWolves (with Wigan just eeking them out)I don't care how bad Villa is playing, until it actually happens, I don't think they relegate (btw, they also have a game in hand on most).
Currently there are 8 points separating the bottom 11 teams:
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Everton 	27 	33Stoke City 	27 	33Aston Villa 	28 	33Blackburn 	28 	32Blackpool 	28 	32Fulham 	        27 	31Birmingham 	26 	30Wolves 	        28 	28WBA 	        27 	28Wigan Athletic 	28 	27West Ham Utd 	27      25
 
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LONDON — Former Tottenham defender Dean Richards died Saturday after a long-term illness. He was 36. Tottenham confirmed the news in a statement that didn't specify the exact cause of death.The centre back made only 81 appearances during an injury-plagued four years for Spurs. Following dizzy spells and headaches, Richards was forced to retire in 2005 at the age of 30 after being told he had an "abnormality on the brain." He collected on a two million-pound (then US$3.5 million) insurance policy in 2006.The 8.1 million-pound (then US$11.3 million) fee that took Richards to Tottenham from Southampton in 2001 was the highest amount at the time paid for a player who hadn't featured for England. Most of his appearances came for Wolverhampton Wanderers, where he played 145 times between 1995 and 2001 after joining from Bradford.Wolves host Tottenham in the Premier League next Sunday when a tribute to Richards is planned.
RIP
 
It's been over a month, so I thought I'd bump these:
This new message board frightens and confuses me. But I'm pretty comfortable with my prediction there. Though based on form at the moment (besides a brief interlude midweek), Blackpool could certainly enter the picture (1-1-8 in their last 10...ouch)
 
It has been so long since the team has been together, I am unsure what the lineup will be against Argentina.

Here is my best guess as of today assuming everyone is available

Howard

Cherundolo Gooch Ream Boca

Holden Edu Bradley LanDon

Dempsey Jozy

What do you guys think?

 
It has been so long since the team has been together, I am unsure what the lineup will be against Argentina.Here is my best guess as of today assuming everyone is availableHowardCherundolo Gooch Ream BocaHolden Edu Bradley LanDonDempsey JozyWhat do you guys think?
Lancashire Jones instead of Edu... but otherwise, why not? We might even see Holden play in the middle with Bradley as he's been doing for Bolton. Gooch and Boca might switch, depending on how Gooch has been doing on the flank for Twente. Maybe Spector gets the nod on the left with Boca and Gooch in the center? Or more likely, it's a 4-5-1 with Dempsey falling back into the center of the MF or rotating with LD, with Bradley, Jones and Holden playing deeper.Great googly... whoever has to deal with Tevez is going to get killed. They'll need the holding/defensive MF to work their ### off to control the space in front of Tevez all game.
 

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