#### Juve. But #### Milan more.Glad to see Juve win a title...it's been too long![]()
Going undefeated and almost missing out on the title is crazy. Actually wished it would have happened.Glad to see Juve win a title...it's been too long![]()
Nice to get these two out of the way early in the group. Would hate to have a fluke result early and have to go to one of these places needing a result in the last game.Tuesday, June 12th, 2012:TBA Guatemala v USA (WCQ).....USA-TV: ESPN2, espn3.com, Univision (all to be confirmed)Friday, September 7th, 2012:TBA Jamaica v USA (WCQ).....USA-TV: TBA
So true. Not looking forward to watching the game in Guat.Nice to get these two out of the way early in the group. Would hate to have a fluke result early and have to go to one of these places needing a result in the last game.Tuesday, June 12th, 2012:TBA Guatemala v USA (WCQ).....USA-TV: ESPN2, espn3.com, Univision (all to be confirmed)Friday, September 7th, 2012:TBA Jamaica v USA (WCQ).....USA-TV: TBA
Why do they do this?All non US and Mexico Concacaf WCQing games will be available via PPV (spelled "stream"), and will be shown on Gol TV no earlier than 48 hours later
#### Juve. But #### Milan more.Glad to see Juve win a title...it's been too long![]()

Because no one bid for the live rights to be shown on a network. Here is more info about the PPV'shttp://www.IntegratedSportsNet.com/Why do they do this?All non US and Mexico Concacaf WCQing games will be available via PPV (spelled "stream"), and will be shown on Gol TV no earlier than 48 hours later
Yeah, #### this guy.DF Juliano Belletti (played a key role for this team and scored the winner against Arsenal in the CL Final)
Yeah, we lost 8-0. Totally outclassed. Our work rate was good but they were just at another level, and we were sloppy and nervous on the ball. Probably got outpossessed 67%-33% when all was said and done. While I know it's going to be a struggle and we'll probably be in the relegation discussion again this year, that team should not be playing in our league. I fully expect a top 4 finish and a potential championship for them; they're probably the best team I've played against in my 4 years with the club.'Steve Tasker said:So....anyone playing this summer?Our season starts tomorrow, and I think we're in trouble. We've only had 1 practice so far, which consisted of 6 of us playing pickup with random guys in the park. This is our second season in the "league one" of our local soccer pyramid. We tied for 11th out of 14 last year after being promoted after the summer 2010 season. We finished above relegation, but due to some major shakeups, the competition looks a lot stiffer this year. The teams who finished 10th and 13th folded altogether, and 14th was sent down. One team dropped all the way from the premier league into our league after a winless season last year. We play them tomorrow night, and I have a feeling it might be a bloodbath.
at hovering the cursor over a thread that Christo has started and seeing a picture of Crouchy doing the robot pop up as his personal pic.Every time I check the site on my phone I see that as his avatar.Also,![]()
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at hovering the cursor over a thread that Christo has started and seeing a picture of Crouchy doing the robot pop up as his personal pic.
To piss me off.Why do they do this?All non US and Mexico Concacaf WCQing games will be available via PPV (spelled "stream"), and will be shown on Gol TV no earlier than 48 hours later
2002-03 RMGK CasillasMessi has scored an astounding 72 goals this season in all competitions and holds the Barca record for most goals in club history. One of the many amazing things about his accomplishments is how young he started playing first team football at Barca. His first appearance for the senior team came in 2004 when he was only 18.
In 2005-2006, he received more regular minutes in what has to be one of the most talented squads ever assembled. Look at the roster below (the year they won both La Liga and the Champions League). In many ways it was the intersection of two different dynastic Barca generations sharing the same pitch. Of course they all didnt get regular minutes in the same matches, but it sure must have been fun watching practice at the Nou Camp in the middle of the week! I dug up some stats where to supplement my poor (not to mention incomplete) memory:
2005-2006 Barcelona Squad:
Forwards: Youve got to be kidding me!
FW Ronaldinho (best player in the world at the time)
FW Samuel Eto'o (along with Henry, one the most dangerous strikers in Europe - 34 goals in 48 appearances!)
FW Lionel Messi (8 goals in 25 appearances and missed time due to an injury. I remember the broadcasters speaking about his 'legend' even in those days)
FW Henrik Larsson (Well past his prime at this point but it was fun to see him on the pitch in Spain with these guys after years in Scotland)
Playmaking Midfielders: An embarrassment of riches!
MF Deco (the peak of his prowess - a remarkable playmarker during these years)
MF Xavi (played only ~20 games that year as Deco's understudy)
MF Andrés Iniesta (already part of the regular rotation with ~50 appearances in all competitions)
Holding Midfielders: Someone needs to play defense!
DM Edmílson (played important role as teams organizer and holding MF)
DM Mark van Bommel (looked very out of place on this team but logged some important minutes in what was his only year at Barca)
MF Thiago Motta (no recollection - wikipedia says he was a backup)
Defenders: Not bad, even for Barca!
DF Giovanni van Bronckhorst (a staple of this teams back-line for years; they probably never shouldve let him go)
CB Rafael Márquez (piece of ####)
CB Carles Puyol - (Captain even back then)
DF Sylvinho
GK Víctor Valdés (another guy thats been on the senior squad forever - dating back to 2002)
Others - not bad for the end of the bench!
FW Maxi Lopez (no recollection of him on this team)
RW Ludovic Giuly (Giuly actually played a lot in 2005-6 although he didnt show the same class as he did during his days in France)
DF Juliano Belletti (played a key role for this team and scored the winner against Arsenal in the CL Final)
RB Oleguer Pressas (started a load of games for the team and even captained the squad at one point
Can anyone come up with a more impressive roster - top to bottom - for any team in a single year?
You have to admit it's pretty damn awesome. I can't think of a more original and entertaining celebration. That clip is flat out hilarious.Also,![]()
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at hovering the cursor over a thread that Christo has started and seeing a picture of Crouchy doing the robot pop up as his personal pic.
This is pretty ridiculous.AM FigoAM ZidaneSS RaulST Ronaldo
They have extreme difficulty beating anyone that stacks the box (especially in away games). If a team is willing to play for a home draw then they can generally do it.Spurs are so predictably unpredictable. Ugh.![]()
The '03-'04 offense were those four plus Beckham. Those were some awesome teams.This is pretty ridiculous.AM FigoAM ZidaneSS RaulST Ronaldo
They have extreme difficulty beating anyone that stacks the box (especially in away games). If a team is willing to play for a home draw then they can generally do it.Spurs are so predictably unpredictable. Ugh.![]()
Which Concacaf team do you follow outside of US?To piss me off.Why do they do this?All non US and Mexico Concacaf WCQing games will be available via PPV (spelled "stream"), and will be shown on Gol TV no earlier than 48 hours later
Nice to get these two out of the way early in the group. Would hate to have a fluke result early and have to go to one of these places needing a result in the last game.Tuesday, June 12th, 2012:TBA Guatemala v USA (WCQ).....USA-TV: ESPN2, espn3.com, Univision (all to be confirmed)Friday, September 7th, 2012:TBA Jamaica v USA (WCQ).....USA-TV: TBA
Away non-results aren't flukes, even these days IMO. But yeah- I like having these away games earlier too. And both of those spots are pretty nasty away locations with rabid, disruptive fans.I got to see that RM team play Roma at the Meadowlands. Un-freaking-believably good. That was the game where I developed my man-2002-03 RMGK CasillasMessi has scored an astounding 72 goals this season in all competitions and holds the Barca record for most goals in club history. One of the many amazing things about his accomplishments is how young he started playing first team football at Barca. His first appearance for the senior team came in 2004 when he was only 18.
In 2005-2006, he received more regular minutes in what has to be one of the most talented squads ever assembled. Look at the roster below (the year they won both La Liga and the Champions League). In many ways it was the intersection of two different dynastic Barca generations sharing the same pitch. Of course they all didnt get regular minutes in the same matches, but it sure must have been fun watching practice at the Nou Camp in the middle of the week! I dug up some stats where to supplement my poor (not to mention incomplete) memory:
2005-2006 Barcelona Squad:
Forwards: Youve got to be kidding me!
FW Ronaldinho (best player in the world at the time)
FW Samuel Eto'o (along with Henry, one the most dangerous strikers in Europe - 34 goals in 48 appearances!)
FW Lionel Messi (8 goals in 25 appearances and missed time due to an injury. I remember the broadcasters speaking about his 'legend' even in those days)
FW Henrik Larsson (Well past his prime at this point but it was fun to see him on the pitch in Spain with these guys after years in Scotland)
Playmaking Midfielders: An embarrassment of riches!
MF Deco (the peak of his prowess - a remarkable playmarker during these years)
MF Xavi (played only ~20 games that year as Deco's understudy)
MF Andrés Iniesta (already part of the regular rotation with ~50 appearances in all competitions)
Holding Midfielders: Someone needs to play defense!
DM Edmílson (played important role as teams organizer and holding MF)
DM Mark van Bommel (looked very out of place on this team but logged some important minutes in what was his only year at Barca)
MF Thiago Motta (no recollection - wikipedia says he was a backup)
Defenders: Not bad, even for Barca!
DF Giovanni van Bronckhorst (a staple of this teams back-line for years; they probably never shouldve let him go)
CB Rafael Márquez (piece of ####)
CB Carles Puyol - (Captain even back then)
DF Sylvinho
GK Víctor Valdés (another guy thats been on the senior squad forever - dating back to 2002)
Others - not bad for the end of the bench!
FW Maxi Lopez (no recollection of him on this team)
RW Ludovic Giuly (Giuly actually played a lot in 2005-6 although he didnt show the same class as he did during his days in France)
DF Juliano Belletti (played a key role for this team and scored the winner against Arsenal in the CL Final)
RB Oleguer Pressas (started a load of games for the team and even captained the squad at one point
Can anyone come up with a more impressive roster - top to bottom - for any team in a single year?
RB Salgado
CB Hierro
CB Helguera
LB Roberto Carlos
DM Makelele
CM Guti
AM Figo
AM Zidane
SS Raul
ST Ronaldo
Steve McManaman
Esteban Cambiasso
Fernando Morientes
Javier Portillo
Santiago Solari
Flávio da Conceição
Ajax and Bayern had some killer teams in the 70's as well. How many of us can really go back that far though? You would really have had to live in another country to have great exposure to international soccer pre-2000 and even then you really would have had to work at it.
for Zidane after having watched him play on TV for Juve on our local RAI feed. On TV, he alwys looked almost lazy because he was soooooo smooth and calm on the ball and the opposition almost seemed to let him do things (since I was only getting to see what was happening on-screen). Never seen a guy work harder AND do more or more stylishly/entertainingly after all that hard work. LOVE HIM.The kind that don't actually read posts, but feels the need to respond with something hyperbolic.Which Concacaf team do you follow outside of US?To piss me off.Why do they do this?All non US and Mexico Concacaf WCQing games will be available via PPV (spelled "stream"), and will be shown on Gol TV no earlier than 48 hours later
Klaas is having a stellar year with 48 goals in 47 appearences. Very underrated striker, it will be interesting to see if he can play a big role for the Dutch.German Bundesliga
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That's probably the most compelling factor IMO.It will be interesting to see what Barca looks like in a couple years, with Messi still around, Jean-Marie Dongou probably on the first team (I think he came from Eto'o's soccer camp, and was promoted to Barca B this year), and possibly Neymar. I think Barca's going to try and get Neymar, knowing he may or may not work out, but also knowing that they'd be able to sell him in a couple years for close to what they paid for him, and most importantly of all, keeping him away from RM.
I'm not sure there's a spot for him in the starting XI. Too many good attacking MFs, plus RVP up top. Have RVP, JKH, and Robben ever played together in a meaningful game?Klaas is having a stellar year with 48 goals in 47 appearences. Very underrated striker, it will be interesting to see if he can play a big role for the Dutch.German Bundesliga
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I don't think they have really. I know they prefered to bring on Elia for Kuyt back in the World Cup, but I think Huntelaar's form is good enough that they should slot him in over those two for the Euros. Hard to get a better attacking group than RVP, Robben, Klaas, and Sneijder right now.I'm not sure there's a spot for him in the starting XI. Too many good attacking MFs, plus RVP up top. Have RVP, JKH, and Robben ever played together in a meaningful game?Klaas is having a stellar year with 48 goals in 47 appearences. Very underrated striker, it will be interesting to see if he can play a big role for the Dutch.German Bundesliga
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I thought he was an out an out forward? I remember him playing the lone striker role in England for somebody... Arsenal?Either way, I'm not a fan of his. Not enough style points for my liking- very workmanlike and positionally sound/technically proficient, but not fun for me to watch even if he's scoring goals.I'm not sure there's a spot for him in the starting XI. Too many good attacking MFs, plus RVP up top. Have RVP, JKH, and Robben ever played together in a meaningful game?Klaas is having a stellar year with 48 goals in 47 appearences. Very underrated striker, it will be interesting to see if he can play a big role for the Dutch.German Bundesliga
Klaas Jan Huntelaar (Schalke 04/Netherlands) 29
Yeah, you're right. Not the best fit for the normal Dutch shape without displacing RVP.I thought he was an out an out forward? I remember him playing the lone striker role in England for somebody... Arsenal?Either way, I'm not a fan of his. Not enough style points for my liking- very workmanlike and positionally sound/technically proficient, but not fun for me to watch even if he's scoring goals.I'm not sure there's a spot for him in the starting XI. Too many good attacking MFs, plus RVP up top. Have RVP, JKH, and Robben ever played together in a meaningful game?Klaas is having a stellar year with 48 goals in 47 appearences. Very underrated striker, it will be interesting to see if he can play a big role for the Dutch.German Bundesliga
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I thought the same thing about that Gomez cat- a German Luca Toni- but he's been growing on me.
Huntelaar has never played for Arsenal. He was a young star ar Ajax/Heerenveen, didn't make much of an impact at Real Madrid and later Milan, and has really emerged with Schalke. I haven't seen him play for Schalke, though, that I can recall.I thought he was an out an out forward? I remember him playing the lone striker role in England for somebody... Arsenal?Either way, I'm not a fan of his. Not enough style points for my liking- very workmanlike and positionally sound/technically proficient, but not fun for me to watch even if he's scoring goals.I'm not sure there's a spot for him in the starting XI. Too many good attacking MFs, plus RVP up top. Have RVP, JKH, and Robben ever played together in a meaningful game?Klaas is having a stellar year with 48 goals in 47 appearences. Very underrated striker, it will be interesting to see if he can play a big role for the Dutch.German Bundesliga
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I thought the same thing about that Gomez cat- a German Luca Toni- but he's been growing on me.
Ah- I stand corrected. Stupid, mushy brain.It must have been his Milan time when I watched him. And maybe I'm confusing him with the tall Danish kid at Arsenal (now at Sunderland?). But hell- that's a major resume for somebody who can't crack his country's starting 11.Huntelaar has never played for Arsenal. He was a young star ar Ajax/Heerenveen, didn't make much of an impact at Real Madrid and later Milan, and has really emerged with Schalke. I haven't seen him play for Schalke, though, that I can recall.I thought he was an out an out forward? I remember him playing the lone striker role in England for somebody... Arsenal?Either way, I'm not a fan of his. Not enough style points for my liking- very workmanlike and positionally sound/technically proficient, but not fun for me to watch even if he's scoring goals.I'm not sure there's a spot for him in the starting XI. Too many good attacking MFs, plus RVP up top. Have RVP, JKH, and Robben ever played together in a meaningful game?Klaas is having a stellar year with 48 goals in 47 appearences. Very underrated striker, it will be interesting to see if he can play a big role for the Dutch.German Bundesliga
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I thought the same thing about that Gomez cat- a German Luca Toni- but he's been growing on me.
Isn't the traditional Dutch formation a 4-3-3? I've seen them play a 4-2-3-1, but Van Persie could fit in either as he actually prefers to play on the left anyway. It's hard to tell how they would line up for friendly line-ups because it's complicated by all of the team agreements on playing time, but I really don't see why playing those three would be a problem at all.'Slapdash said:Yeah, you're right. Not the best fit for the normal Dutch shape without displacing RVP.'El Floppo said:I thought he was an out an out forward? I remember him playing the lone striker role in England for somebody... Arsenal?Either way, I'm not a fan of his. Not enough style points for my liking- very workmanlike and positionally sound/technically proficient, but not fun for me to watch even if he's scoring goals.'The Z Machine said:I'm not sure there's a spot for him in the starting XI. Too many good attacking MFs, plus RVP up top. Have RVP, JKH, and Robben ever played together in a meaningful game?'Slapdash said:Klaas is having a stellar year with 48 goals in 47 appearences. Very underrated striker, it will be interesting to see if he can play a big role for the Dutch.'NewlyRetired said:German Bundesliga
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I thought the same thing about that Gomez cat- a German Luca Toni- but he's been growing on me.
I think the bold is what they played in the WC. Not too sure what they have looked like tactically in qualifying.Isn't the traditional Dutch formation a 4-3-3? I've seen them play a 4-2-3-1, but Van Persie could fit in either as he actually prefers to play on the left anyway. It's hard to tell how they would line up for friendly line-ups because it's complicated by all of the team agreements on playing time, but I really don't see why playing those three would be a problem at all.'Slapdash said:Yeah, you're right. Not the best fit for the normal Dutch shape without displacing RVP.'El Floppo said:I thought he was an out an out forward? I remember him playing the lone striker role in England for somebody... Arsenal?Either way, I'm not a fan of his. Not enough style points for my liking- very workmanlike and positionally sound/technically proficient, but not fun for me to watch even if he's scoring goals.'The Z Machine said:I'm not sure there's a spot for him in the starting XI. Too many good attacking MFs, plus RVP up top. Have RVP, JKH, and Robben ever played together in a meaningful game?'Slapdash said:Klaas is having a stellar year with 48 goals in 47 appearences. Very underrated striker, it will be interesting to see if he can play a big role for the Dutch.'NewlyRetired said:German Bundesliga
Klaas Jan Huntelaar (Schalke 04/Netherlands) 29
I thought the same thing about that Gomez cat- a German Luca Toni- but he's been growing on me.
I read an analytics type article a month or two ago that did a break down of possession in terms of winning a game (not specifically scoring goals), and there was almost no correlation between having more possession and winning games (from a very wide sample of games and leagues).If I can find the link I will post it.A neat visual on the relationship between amount of possesion and amount of shots: http://www.zonalmarking.net/2012/05/04/the-relationship-between-possession-and-shots/
I'd like to see possesion vs. goals along with shots vs. goals.
I believe it is the best tournament by far (ignoring the water down affect you mentioned).Ironically best does not equate to favorite tournament for me. I prefer to watch the WC even if I know the general quality is lower.'CletiusMaximus said:The Euro is going to be awesome as always, even if a bit watered down this year due to two weaker host countries taking auto spots. For me, its the best tournament.