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'Ramsay Hunt Experience said:
'SmoovySmoov said:
Plus, the Evil Empire gets what it wants.
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Sheesh. Man U stands out to me as a team that really doesn't just splash ridiculous cash for a player. They've never paid as much for a player as Liverpool did to grab Carroll, for instance. I hated to see them take Van Persie, but it was a fair offer and the guy wanted to go. I don't mind the big money teams making their money count. I think the EPL is more interesting with City and Chelsea. But compared to them, I think Man U is pretty careful with the cash. The worst I can say is that Zaha represents Fergie's continuing inability to find a completely reliable winger after losing Ronaldo (although I like Tony V.).
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The Carroll deal was an anomaly. There's even speculation that Liverpool told Chelsea they want to clear 15M on the Torres out, Carroll in deal. Then let New Castle/Chelsea negotiate the deal.

If it was 16M for Torres, 1M for Carroll it's the same thing as Liverpool weren't paying the money anyway. They were netting 15M either way. This was one way to get it done quickly and for Liverpool to not be stuck without a striker coming in like they were this season. That's speculation, I'm not trying to pass it off as truth.

Man U never really splash huge, but they always buy and spend large amounts.

Nick Powell £6,000,000

Shinji Kagawa £12,000,000

Robin Van Persie £22,000,000

Season 11/12

Phil Jones £17,000,000

David De Gea £18,900,000

Ashley Young £17,000,000

 
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'GoFishTN said:
'Ramsay Hunt Experience said:
'SmoovySmoov said:
Plus, the Evil Empire gets what it wants.
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Sheesh. Man U stands out to me as a team that really doesn't just splash ridiculous cash for a player. They've never paid as much for a player as Liverpool did to grab Carroll, for instance. I hated to see them take Van Persie, but it was a fair offer and the guy wanted to go. I don't mind the big money teams making their money count. I think the EPL is more interesting with City and Chelsea. But compared to them, I think Man U is pretty careful with the cash. The worst I can say is that Zaha represents Fergie's continuing inability to find a completely reliable winger after losing Ronaldo (although I like Tony V.).
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Whatever the got for Torres was tied to how much Newcastle wanted for Carroll, so that's really not an apples to apples comparison.
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beat me to it
 
'The Gator said:
'GoFishTN said:
'Ramsay Hunt Experience said:
'SmoovySmoov said:
Plus, the Evil Empire gets what it wants.
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Sheesh. Man U stands out to me as a team that really doesn't just splash ridiculous cash for a player. They've never paid as much for a player as Liverpool did to grab Carroll, for instance. I hated to see them take Van Persie, but it was a fair offer and the guy wanted to go. I don't mind the big money teams making their money count. I think the EPL is more interesting with City and Chelsea. But compared to them, I think Man U is pretty careful with the cash. The worst I can say is that Zaha represents Fergie's continuing inability to find a completely reliable winger after losing Ronaldo (although I like Tony V.).
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Whatever the got for Torres was tied to how much Newcastle wanted for Carroll, so that's really not an apples to apples comparison.
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beat me to it
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:D
 
'The Gator said:
'Ramsay Hunt Experience said:
'SmoovySmoov said:
Plus, the Evil Empire gets what it wants.
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Sheesh. Man U stands out to me as a team that really doesn't just splash ridiculous cash for a player. They've never paid as much for a player as Liverpool did to grab Carroll, for instance. I hated to see them take Van Persie, but it was a fair offer and the guy wanted to go. I don't mind the big money teams making their money count. I think the EPL is more interesting with City and Chelsea. But compared to them, I think Man U is pretty careful with the cash. The worst I can say is that Zaha represents Fergie's continuing inability to find a completely reliable winger after losing Ronaldo (although I like Tony V.).
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The Carroll deal was an anomaly. There's even speculation that Liverpool told Chelsea they want to clear 15M on the Torres out, Carroll in deal. Then let New Castle/Chelsea negotiate the deal.

If it was 16M for Torres, 1M for Carroll it's the same thing as Liverpool weren't paying the money anyway. They were netting 15M either way. This was one way to get it done quickly and for Liverpool to not be stuck without a striker coming in like they were this season. That's speculation, I'm not trying to pass it off as truth.

Man U never really splash huge, but they always buy and spend large amounts.

Nick Powell £6,000,000

Shinji Kagawa £12,000,000

Robin Van Persie £22,000,000

Season 11/12

Phil Jones £17,000,000

David De Gea £18,900,000

Ashley Young £17,000,000
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Liverpool spent over 17 million pounds a piece on Aquailani and Johnson in the 2009/10 season. In 2010/11, they spent the 35 million on Carroll, 23 million on Suarez, and 11.5 million on Mereilles. In 11/12, they spent at least 16 million on Henderson. At least 12 million on Downing (I've heard as high as 20 million) and 6, 7 and 7 million respectively on Jose Enrique, Charlie Adams and Coates.This season, they spent 10 million on Borini. 15 million on Allen, and 12 million on Sturridge.

 
Then add 30M for Berbatov, 27M for Rooney, 18M for Hargreeves, 16M for Carrick...Smalling, Fabio/Rafael, Evra, Nani... and so on. Not saying Liverpool don't spend, never did, but to say Untied don't is just silly

 
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Jonathan Walters for Stoke had a game for the ages today. 2 own goals and a missed pk. That can not have happened much at all over the years.

 
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Messi pays tribute to Müller
Munich - Freshly-crowned FIFA Ballon d'Or winner Lionel Messi, who netted an unprecedented 91 competitive goals in the calendar year 2012, has thanked former record holder Gerd Müller for providing the inspiration.The FC Barcelona superstar sent the FC Bayern Munich legend a signed a shirt bearing his famous No10 with the message: "To Gerd Müller, with respect and admiration and a warm embrace."Messi was awarded the FIFA Ballon d'Or as the world's best player for the fourth successive year on Monday evening in Zurich. The 25-year-old's 2012 tally overstepped Müller's previous record of 85 from 1972. According to Barca president Sandro Rosell, Müller's bestmark was an additional motivation for the diminutive Argentinean.Müller responded graciously, saying: "If a player scores close to 100 goals in year, there can be no two opinions about who's the best player in the world. He's an unbelievable player, a giant, but at the same time such a likeable and modest professional."
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'Sebowski said:
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RM pretty thin in the back these days. No Ronaldo today either (cards), but I imagine they cruise against Osasuna.
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Osasuna 0-0 Real Madrid :lmao:
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Watched most of this. RM didn't outplay them and just get unlucky, they just didn't have much in the way of creativity/opportunity without Ronaldo/Ozil. Starting Modric at CAM instead of Ozil may have cost them two points.Going back to the Liga vs. EPL argument, I can't imagine anyone thinking that QPR is better than Osasuna.
 
'Good said:
'Sebowski said:
'Good said:
RM pretty thin in the back these days. No Ronaldo today either (cards), but I imagine they cruise against Osasuna.
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Osasuna 0-0 Real Madrid :lmao:
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Watched most of this. RM didn't outplay them and just get unlucky, they just didn't have much in the way of creativity/opportunity without Ronaldo/Ozil. Starting Modric at CAM instead of Ozil may have cost them two points.Going back to the Liga vs. EPL argument, I can't imagine anyone thinking that QPR is better than Osasuna.
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Since Harry took over after QPR's loss to ManU on 11/24, they've earned 10 points in 9 games with a win over Chelsea and a draw against Spurs. They'd only earned 4 points from their first 13 games.Since 11/24, Osasuna has played 6 and earned 5 points with a draw against RM. Prior to that they'd earned 10 points from 13 games.While they both may stink. It looks like QPR's playing better right now.
 
My Atleti are 11 points back from Barça. I just don't see how they can catch them. La liga is effectively over with it only 1/2 complete. Thankfully, they are 7 points above RM and 13 points clear into CL qualification.It's pretty incredible that Barça has only dropped 2 points in 19 games.

 
'The Z Machine said:
My Atleti are 11 points back from Barça. I just don't see how they can catch them. La liga is effectively over with it only 1/2 complete. Thankfully, they are 7 points above RM and 13 points clear into CL qualification.It's pretty incredible that Barça has only dropped 2 points in 19 games.
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I am astounded by that start, even with the team Barcelona has. I thought the shaky defense would cost them more points at this stage. 55 points in 19 matches - wow!
 
'honky kong said:
'Christo said:
'GoFishTN said:
'Christo said:
QPR! QPR! QPR! :banned:
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You'll be saying this a lot in the Championship next year. :)
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F'n great result and they're further behind than when the day started :cry:
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They play defensively like they did today and they won't be going down. They play offensively like they did today and they will.
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QPR apparently going all-in by sniping Newcastle on Loic Remy and also reportedly coming to terms with Yann M'Villa. Remy's teamate Joey Barton broke the news (for me) on twitter, and then proceeded to engage in a vicious twitter spat with Dietmar Hermann. Well worth the hour or so I wasted checking twitter this afternoon. Hermann scored point by repeatedly mocking Barton using the #englandinternational hashtag, while Barton was much more crude and personal.
 
'Good said:
'The Gator said:
'Sebowski said:
Bein is showing all of Messi's goals for the year as part of a Messi special right now.
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My kids watch this the other day. Both of them starting :lmao: :lmao: at one of Ray Hudson's calls. Hudson let out a banshee scream and they thought it was hilarious.
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My wife is starting to become aware of Ray. "Why is that guy screaming?"
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Love the guy. He's on The Football Show now on SiriusXM and does a really good job.
 
Official BWFC (@OfficialBWFC)1/14/13, 12:31 PMFreedman: "Stu Holden and Josh Vela are both in the squad for tomorrow's game at Sunderland." #BWFC :popcorn: :popcorn:

 
Watching Sky Sports. They interviewed Sepp Blatter. He says that the reason the English National team is struggling is because the EPL has too many foreigners in it. :rolleyes: Next segemnt he talks about needing to get rid of racism. :lmao:

 
Michael Seaton was signed by DC United yesterday as a home grown player. He will make for a nice bit of trivia some day as he is the very first player ever signed by MLS who was not yet born when the league launched.

 
Ran across this news on BS. Have not read how serious it is though. If it is serious enough to miss the Honduras qualifier, it will be interesting to see who get the start in Jones place especially with Edu pretty much fallen off the soccer map now at Stoke.

http://www.sportpulse.net/content/fc-schalke-04-bruised-and-battered-look-forward-high-hopes-6206

Jermaine Jones, Christoph Moritz and Ibrahim Afellay sustained injuries during the team's training camp in Doha, Qatar, and are unlikely to take part in the first part of the season re-start.

 
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The New York Red Bulls reportedly plan to hire former Portuguese midfielder Paulo Sousa as the club’s next head coach, with one-time U.S. national team captain Claudio Reyna set to serve as his top assistant.New York has been without a coach since Hans Backe left more than two months ago and has made several significant roster moves in the interim under the guidance of new sporting director Andy Roxburgh.
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gee, I wonder why this obvious concern was swept under the rug when it mattered during the voting process? God I hate Blatter. I would normally be so happy that he is stepping down in 2015 but with Plantini waiting behind him, things are not going to get any better.

LONDON (AP) -- FIFA President Sepp Blatter has raised fresh doubts about the safety of playing the 2022 World Cup in Qatar during summer.There have been growing calls to move the tournament to the winter to avoid the sweltering desert heat that is expected to exceed 104 degrees in June and July. UEFA President Michel Platini is one of those requesting the switch.
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