The Gator
Footballguy
And nobody has done him any favors by playing him in a bunch of different positions. He needs to be really good at one before learning another one imo
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Bonzai
Footballguy
I do. But like Gator said, they need to stop shuffling him around. Stick him back there and let him get settled.
Native
Footballguy
Liam @OffsideLiam 2m
Radamel Falcao will earn £265,000 per-week at Manchester United, slightly different to the previous £360,000 sum mentioned earlier.
Radamel Falcao will earn £265,000 per-week at Manchester United, slightly different to the previous £360,000 sum mentioned earlier.
gianmarco
Footballguy
JFC, this has me in tears every time I open it.
I'm curious, how would you describe that? It could loosely be described as a 3-5-2 but there certainly has to be a sidenote to it.
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The Gator
Footballguy
It's the vaunted ghost tactic from FMJFC, this has me in tears every time I open it.
I'm curious, how would you describe that? It could loosely be described as a 3-5-2 but there certainly has to be a sidenote to it.
The Gator
Footballguy
I think they got a forward I need to claim. Forgot his name, but think he'll do wellWhat a transfer window for Hull City
-QG
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
Abel Hernandez?I think they got a forward I need to claim. Forgot his name, but think he'll do wellWhat a transfer window for Hull City
-QG
-QG
The Gator
Footballguy
Yeah, kid from Italy right?Abel Hernandez?-QGI think they got a forward I need to claim. Forgot his name, but think he'll do wellWhat a transfer window for Hull City
-QG
SmoovySmoov
The Way of the Samurai
Good pickup.Abel Hernandez?I think they got a forward I need to claim. Forgot his name, but think he'll do wellWhat a transfer window for Hull City
-QG
-QG
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
Intentionally didn't follow the transfer closing today. Happy about the Welbeck move, but I suppose I'd have preferred an actual target striker. You know, cause Sanogo kinda sucks.
Bonzai
Footballguy
From the Guardian:Native said:
"With the striker’s salary of £190,000 a week being paid by United the agreement was set to cost the club at least £16m, with the 20-times champions having an option to buy Falcao next summer from Monaco.
As Falcao’s salary is tax-free at Monaco and United denied they were matching his net take-home of £10m a year, it may be the French club agreed to pay the 50% tax to ensure the striker will suffer no lost earnings. Manchester City and Arsenal, who were also offered Falcao by his agent, Jorge Mendes, were quoted the same numbers before they turned down the deal."
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AAABatteries
Footballguy
Are you just talking about EPL or total? United is down to two competitions already versus 4 for Liverpool.
Not to state the obvious but I think it will all depend on playing time. If RvP really is injured and will require surgery then Falcao will play virtually every match I imagine. I don't think Balotelli will start as much but his goals per minute could be about the same.
Also, Balotelli won't get PKs when Gerrard is on the pitch - not sure who will take them for United when Falcao is playing. Z, did Falcao take penalties for Atletico?
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
We are all patient boys.Bonzai said:Guardian just linked to Waiting Room in their Deadline Day coverage.
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
Z's homie Toby Alderweireld headed to Southampton on loan.
The Gator
Footballguy
AAABatteries
Footballguy
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Bonzai - was trying to send you a PM - your inbox is full.*
*It may or may not be a shirtless Falcao pic
*It may or may not be a shirtless Falcao pic
The Gator
Footballguy
As the most important factor?
Srsly, impact goals is a little vague. I think both guys could be in the 10-12ish range. Bolo has the potential to act up, Falcao has had three knee injuries, two major ones. Both have their issues. Torres showed that as a striker, once your first step goes, the goals go with it.
For United it's way less of a risk than it was when he was linked with Liverpool. Liverpool can't spend 20M on a loan, United can.
The Gator
Footballguy
cleared out
gianmarco
Footballguy
I know it's a running joke, but in all seriousness, he's only had one red card since the card he got in the EPL in 2012.
The Gator
Footballguy
Sebowski
Footballguy
The Z Machine
Footballguy
Yes, Falcao took penalties while at Atleti. Also, good riddance to Toby. Bad things happened to Atleti with him on the field.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
I thought one of the tenants of this thread site is we don't let facts get in the way of a joke (even bad ones like mine).
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Bonzai
Footballguy
El Floppo
Footballguy
Pretty sure that's too many characters to be a tenant of this site.
(sorry- "tenet")
AAABatteries
Footballguy
El Floppo
Footballguy
Balotelli... who the hell knows.
We've all seen him work hard and want to win. And we've all seen him not work hard and not know karate, but know ka-rayzee. First game for Liverpool he was was working his ### off and doing a ton of great stuff for his team off the ball, even though the rust wouldn't let him finish most of that work. Because we all know he has skills and can finish, it's pretty easy to think that he'll be scoring a lot of goals in that offense once he finds his touch AND he keeps working as hard as he did over the weekend. He'll be scoring goals even if he doesn't work that hard. I see anywhere from 10-25.
But of course, he kidnapped a midget to bring to an interview after running covert ops on the interviewer for 3 hours.... so who the hell knows.
We've all seen him work hard and want to win. And we've all seen him not work hard and not know karate, but know ka-rayzee. First game for Liverpool he was was working his ### off and doing a ton of great stuff for his team off the ball, even though the rust wouldn't let him finish most of that work. Because we all know he has skills and can finish, it's pretty easy to think that he'll be scoring a lot of goals in that offense once he finds his touch AND he keeps working as hard as he did over the weekend. He'll be scoring goals even if he doesn't work that hard. I see anywhere from 10-25.
But of course, he kidnapped a midget to bring to an interview after running covert ops on the interviewer for 3 hours.... so who the hell knows.
roadkill1292
Footballguy
Could you expand on the Toby evaluation for us woeful Saints followers? Does he make them better anywhere in the lineup?
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
The Z Machine
Footballguy
I don't know #### about (the?) Saints. Alls I know is that he was a great step down from Godín and Miranda in defending. He didn't cover the other CB well, and his challenges left something to be desired. Here's a bit from an article: "
A poor showing at right back against Levante in early May played a big part in a 2-0 loss that could have been extremely costly for Diego Simeone’s side. Most notably, the Belgian had a terrible game against Malaga soon after, looking rattled by the occasion (a win would have wrapped the league up for Atleti) and often making poor decisions when trying to win the ball. He made up for his bad display that day by scoring the equaliser with a header, but the previous errors suggested the big stage could affect the 25-year-old."
For real, although he saved Atleti with a crucial goal during the la liga run, If he would have played better against Levante or Málaga, Atlético would have iced the league without needing a result in the final game vs. Barça. I can't forgive him for those errors, so I'm happy to be rid of him.
He simply didn't show well for Atlético although people say he's got talent enough. He can score with his head though, he's quite a bit less proficient than Godín (one of the best CBs in the biz right now) in that respect.
roadkill1292
Footballguy
Thanks, Z. I don't remember that guy at all and I watched AM a half dozen times or so last year. I think Koeman is justifiably worried enough about his defense that he thinks anybody is an improvement (over Yoshida!).
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
GQ recently ranked the sleeziest sports personalities in the world.
Sterling got #1. Aron Hernandez came in number 2 and good old Sepp came in 3rd.
Sterling got #1. Aron Hernandez came in number 2 and good old Sepp came in 3rd.
The Gator
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NewlyRetired
Footballguy
I missed this in the news but I assume this is part of some back room deals concerning the Qatar mess.
Platini announced he will not run against Blatter for the FIFA presidency.
Platini announced he will not run against Blatter for the FIFA presidency.
Autumn Wind
Footballguy
The saga of picking an EPL team continues. I think I might be closing in on Swansea, as they're fun to watch and I wouldn't have any guilt about following them. I just wish they had a more robust fan presence Stateside, as I think being part of a local fan community would help keep my interest. Liverpool was damn entertaining but I don't know, that Red Sox connection might be a dealbreaker for me. As for West Ham, I don't think I've seen a more bitter or angry fan base in sports in recent years (at least the internet faction), and I'm a friggin' Raiders fan.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
I watch these decisions with interest and a touch of jealousy.
I have been watching Euro soccer going all the way back to Soccer Made in Germany on PBS in the late 70's. But in all these decades I was never able to support an overseas team like many can. I was never able to form any sort of emotional connection with a team so far away.
I formed temporary bonds with certain teams over the years but that was only due to having US players on the teams and that was more a connection with the player, never really with the team.
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Autumn Wind
Footballguy
And I may end up the same way. As painful as a connection to a sports team made in childhood can be, I've found it to be a bond that's next to impossible to break. I don't know if I, closing in on 40 years old, have it in me to really connect with a new team, especially one across the ocean, but I can't watch sports with no rooting interest.
At least I have the Union close by, so that's an easier leap to make.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
Yeah I am the same way. Having Americans on the teams does give a small amount of rooting interest for me but it is always prioritized player first then team.
I was young enough when the Revs started and being so involved in that supporters culture back in mid 90's helped me form that bond.
shader
Footballguy
I wanted to get into the EPL, but I knew I needed a rooting interest. So I found a team that fits the "type" of team I was looking for. For example, I didn't want ManU, the "Yankees" of the EPL. I didn't want boring, defensive teams, or teams that aren't managed well. I also didn't want a team that couldn't realistically compete in the future. (which in the EPL leaves you with 5-6 teams)
I found the team (thanks mostly to help on this forum), immersed myself in learning about them through video games, message boards, and the website, and began watching all their games.
As crazy as it is, I feel like I have a pretty good attachment to Liverpool now. Obviously not at the level anywhere close to fans who live in Liverpool, have been to many games, or fans that have followed the team for many years. But hey, gotta make the plunge sometime!
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