***Official Soccer Discussion Thread*** (11 Viewers)

[The Gator]

I remember being in Córdoba when they were promoted to the 2nd Division 7 years ago. They whole city was excited and partying on the streets. This year they are playing in the 1st division after finishing 7th and winning the playoff. When they scored the winning goal, fans invaded the pitch. Promotion/regulation is very exciting.

While I agree with the sentiment - I think many european towns/cities identify with their club the way many Americans might identify with their college. Not many people are as passionate about their professional sports teams.

This could help?

The reward last place with a high draft pick standard breeds mediocrity. American sports want everyone to be .500 and have a chance; so what's to get passionate about? That's also why college sports are better fan-wise imo. The Big colleges are like the big clubs in soccer, they're SUPPOSED to win, so fans get fired up for it. It's also great when they lose to a non ranked team and why smaller schools get excited to.

I heard an interview with Bedoya and he talked about how the mentality of players playing to stay up is a positive effect on the game. I don't see how that's a bad thing.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Is there even a single person arguing that Promotion Relegation is not exciting or good for competition?

I am unsure where this conversation is going. I think people are equating those of us saying it won't happen with saying we don't like it. I see it as two completely independent threads.

 

[NewlyRetired]

I remember being in Córdoba when they were promoted to the 2nd Division 7 years ago. They whole city was excited and partying on the streets. This year they are playing in the 1st division after finishing 7th and winning the playoff. When they scored the winning goal, fans invaded the pitch. Promotion/regulation is very exciting.

While I agree with the sentiment - I think many european towns/cities identify with their club the way many Americans might identify with their college. Not many people are as passionate about their professional sports teams.

I think another thing that hurt the "american" version is the geography - nobody is close enough to develop the rivalries you see in European leagues. England, with the size of about Louisiana, has 92 teams in the top-4 divisions. Traveling fans in the PL are the expectation - whether its a Derby across town, or across the country.

I can't think of any rivalry right now, outside of Seattle - Portland that is anywhere close enough where fans would travel in numbers.

NY/Philly gets a decent travel crowd both ways

Everyone else is really a haul, even LA/SJ and Orlando/Miami (assuming Miami comes in) are pretty long drives for a single game.

I think Sacramento/SJ will be within a decent driving distance.

 

[NewlyRetired]

The reward last place with a high draft pick standard breeds mediocrity.

At least with MLS, this is not that big a reward any more and will likely be even less of a reward going forward.

However, MLS does reward teams with "you suck" allocation money for teams that don't make the playoffs.

 

[The Gator]

I see it as two completely independent threads.

Eeeeaaaaaassy, Tim

 

[Sinn Fein]

I remember being in Córdoba when they were promoted to the 2nd Division 7 years ago. They whole city was excited and partying on the streets. This year they are playing in the 1st division after finishing 7th and winning the playoff. When they scored the winning goal, fans invaded the pitch. Promotion/regulation is very exciting.

While I agree with the sentiment - I think many european towns/cities identify with their club the way many Americans might identify with their college. Not many people are as passionate about their professional sports teams.

I think another thing that hurt the "american" version is the geography - nobody is close enough to develop the rivalries you see in European leagues. England, with the size of about Louisiana, has 92 teams in the top-4 divisions. Traveling fans in the PL are the expectation - whether its a Derby across town, or across the country.

I can't think of any rivalry right now, outside of Seattle - Portland that is anywhere close enough where fans would travel in numbers.

NY/Philly gets a decent travel crowd both ways

Everyone else is really a haul, even LA/SJ and Orlando/Miami (assuming Miami comes in) are pretty long drives for a single game.

I think Sacramento/SJ will be within a decent driving distance.

The whole NE corridor would be ripe for this type of rivalry: DC - Balt - Philly - NY - Bos

But you would need to pack 2-3 teams into each city, and a few random cities along the way.

 

[NewlyRetired]

I remember being in Córdoba when they were promoted to the 2nd Division 7 years ago. They whole city was excited and partying on the streets. This year they are playing in the 1st division after finishing 7th and winning the playoff. When they scored the winning goal, fans invaded the pitch. Promotion/regulation is very exciting.

While I agree with the sentiment - I think many european towns/cities identify with their club the way many Americans might identify with their college. Not many people are as passionate about their professional sports teams.

I think another thing that hurt the "american" version is the geography - nobody is close enough to develop the rivalries you see in European leagues. England, with the size of about Louisiana, has 92 teams in the top-4 divisions. Traveling fans in the PL are the expectation - whether its a Derby across town, or across the country.

I can't think of any rivalry right now, outside of Seattle - Portland that is anywhere close enough where fans would travel in numbers.

NY/Philly gets a decent travel crowd both ways

Everyone else is really a haul, even LA/SJ and Orlando/Miami (assuming Miami comes in) are pretty long drives for a single game.

I think Sacramento/SJ will be within a decent driving distance.

The whole NE corridor would be ripe for this type of rivalry: DC - Balt - Philly - NY - Bos

But you would need to pack 2-3 teams into each city, and a few random cities along the way.

ironically the one time MLS has had a team together in LA and Chivas, it did not work out because Chivas basically withered and died as an organization.

I don't know how much of a rivalry NY and RedBull will become.

 

[Slapdash]

NASL Attendance:

Minnesota United FC (5): 11778

Indy Eleven (5): 10414

San Antonio Scorpions (5): 6803

Ottawa Fury (5): 6704

Tampa Bay Rowdies (4): 4312

Atlanta Silverbacks (4): 4166

NY Cosmos (5): 4107

Carolina RailHawks (5): 3657

FC Edmonton (5): 3103

Fort Lauderdale Strikers (5): 2882

USL Pro Attendance:

Sacramento Republic FC (14): 11293

Rochester Rhinos (14): 5329

Orlando City SC (14): 4743

OKC Energy FC (14): 3784

Charleston Battery (14): 3770

Pittsburgh Riverhounds (14): 2686

Richmond Kickers (14): 2679

Arizona United SC (14): 2395

Wilmington Hammerheads FC (14): 2326

Harrisburg City Islanders (14): 1949

Orange County Blues FC (14): 766

Charlotte Eagles (14): 747

LA Galaxy II (14): 597

Dayton Dutch Lions FC (14): 531

 

[Good Posting Judge]

I think Sacramento/SJ will be within a decent driving distance.

Getting up there on a school night is a stretch. On a weekend not so bad, although Friday traffic getting out of the Bay Area is pretty brutal.

 

[NewlyRetired]

NASL Attendance:

Minnesota United FC (5): 11778

Indy Eleven (5): 10414

San Antonio Scorpions (5): 6803

Ottawa Fury (5): 6704

Tampa Bay Rowdies (4): 4312

Atlanta Silverbacks (4): 4166

NY Cosmos (5): 4107

Carolina RailHawks (5): 3657

FC Edmonton (5): 3103

Fort Lauderdale Strikers (5): 2882

USL Pro Attendance:

Sacramento Republic FC (14): 11293

Rochester Rhinos (14): 5329

Orlando City SC (14): 4743

OKC Energy FC (14): 3784

Charleston Battery (14): 3770

Pittsburgh Riverhounds (14): 2686

Richmond Kickers (14): 2679

Arizona United SC (14): 2395

Wilmington Hammerheads FC (14): 2326

Harrisburg City Islanders (14): 1949

Orange County Blues FC (14): 766

Charlotte Eagles (14): 747

LA Galaxy II (14): 597

Dayton Dutch Lions FC (14): 531

#3 in USL Pro is going to MLS next summer

#1 in USL Pro is all but assured to go to MLS soon

#1 in NASL is one of the two groups from Minnesota who will likely move to MLS

Chivas might move out of MLS next year

See, we do have promotion and relegation

 

[roadkill1292]

Is there even a single person arguing that Promotion Relegation is not exciting or good for competition?

I am unsure where this conversation is going. I think people are equating those of us saying it won't happen with saying we don't like it. I see it as two completely independent threads.

Let me address that specific point then. I don't think an exclusive franchise system can survive to maturity. Once it has established a strong fan base it's going to lose out to free marketers who will procure better players. Team loyalties will finish second.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Is there even a single person arguing that Promotion Relegation is not exciting or good for competition?

I am unsure where this conversation is going. I think people are equating those of us saying it won't happen with saying we don't like it. I see it as two completely independent threads.

Let me address that specific point then. I don't think an exclusive franchise system can survive to maturity. Once it has established a strong fan base it's going to lose out to free marketers who will procure better players. Team loyalties will finish second.

I don't understand your point here.

I believe (strongly) that the teams that can pay the most money will always procure the best players. It does not matter if that league has promotion or relegation or not IMO. The players won't care about that any where near as much as their salary IMO.

=========================

sadly our points work out to this

a) an exclusive franchise system can not survive to maturity.

b) promotion relegation will never come to pass in the US

a+b means no domestic soccer. :(

As such I really hope you are wrong.

 

[The Gator]

Will MLS ever get rid of a salary cap?

 

[NewlyRetired]

Will MLS ever get rid of a salary cap?

I doubt it. I think the salary cap will grow as the revenues grow.

How the DP rule evolves is another question.

I would not expect any real changes of the magnitude we are talking about until the mid 2020's and that is only if the US will be the host of the 2026 WC.

 

[Eephus]

Will MLS ever get rid of a salary cap?

not willingly

 

[roadkill1292]

Is there even a single person arguing that Promotion Relegation is not exciting or good for competition?

I am unsure where this conversation is going. I think people are equating those of us saying it won't happen with saying we don't like it. I see it as two completely independent threads.

Let me address that specific point then. I don't think an exclusive franchise system can survive to maturity. Once it has established a strong fan base it's going to lose out to free marketers who will procure better players. Team loyalties will finish second.

I don't understand your point here.

I believe (strongly) that the teams that can pay the most money will always procure the best players. It does not matter if that league has promotion or relegation or not IMO. The players won't care about that any where near as much as their salary IMO.

=========================

sadly our points work out to this

a) an exclusive franchise system can not survive to maturity.

b) promotion relegation will never come to pass in the US

a+b means no domestic soccer. :(

As such I really hope you are wrong.

I actually think soccer has a fine future in the US. Just not with this group of MLS owners. Some other people are going to come along with larger goals.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Is there even a single person arguing that Promotion Relegation is not exciting or good for competition?

I am unsure where this conversation is going. I think people are equating those of us saying it won't happen with saying we don't like it. I see it as two completely independent threads.

Let me address that specific point then. I don't think an exclusive franchise system can survive to maturity. Once it has established a strong fan base it's going to lose out to free marketers who will procure better players. Team loyalties will finish second.

I don't understand your point here.

I believe (strongly) that the teams that can pay the most money will always procure the best players. It does not matter if that league has promotion or relegation or not IMO. The players won't care about that any where near as much as their salary IMO.

=========================

sadly our points work out to this

a) an exclusive franchise system can not survive to maturity.

b) promotion relegation will never come to pass in the US

a+b means no domestic soccer. :(

As such I really hope you are wrong.

I actually think soccer has a fine future in the US. Just not with this group of MLS owners. Some other people are going to come along with larger goals.

Where do you see all these billionaires coming from that are going to swoop in and buy out the current group of billionaires?

Or are you talking 50-75 years from now? If you are talking that time frame, I won't argue because any thing can happen.

But if you expect that to happen in the next 10-20 years I think you will be very disappointed.

 

[CBusAlex]

Will MLS ever get rid of a salary cap?

Depends on what their goals are. If they want to maintain a parity-driven league where any team can be competitive from year to year, then no. If they want MLS teams to someday be competitive with the Bayerns and Barcelonas of the world, then yes, they'll have to. There's no way the US could support a league of 24+ teams all spending that kind of money. Even the NFL can't afford that.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Will MLS ever get rid of a salary cap?

Depends on what their goals are. If they want to maintain a parity-driven league where any team can be competitive from year to year, then no. If they want MLS teams to someday be competitive with the Bayerns and Barcelonas of the world, then yes, they'll have to. There's no way the US could support a league of 24+ teams all spending that kind of money. Even the NFL can't afford that.

yeah the revenue streams simply don't exist. The current generation of stadiums are way too small and the TV money simply could never generate what is needed.

Maybe in 25 years once this current generation of stadiums has to be replaced (and hopefully found that the league has out grown them), then maybe things could change but we are a long way away from a new generation of stadiums.

Even the current stadiums being built right now in SJ and Orlando are small.

 

[The Gator]

Will MLS ever get rid of a salary cap?

Depends on what their goals are. If they want to maintain a parity-driven league where any team can be competitive from year to year, then no. If they want MLS teams to someday be competitive with the Bayerns and Barcelonas of the world, then yes, they'll have to. There's no way the US could support a league of 24+ teams all spending that kind of money. Even the NFL can't afford that.

They should follow the German league with eighteen teams. Fewer games makes it easier for a winter break, too. More teams making an already marginal talent pool even thinner doesn't seem smart.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Will MLS ever get rid of a salary cap?

Depends on what their goals are. If they want to maintain a parity-driven league where any team can be competitive from year to year, then no. If they want MLS teams to someday be competitive with the Bayerns and Barcelonas of the world, then yes, they'll have to. There's no way the US could support a league of 24+ teams all spending that kind of money. Even the NFL can't afford that.

They should follow the German league with eighteen teams. Fewer games makes it easier for a winter break, too. More teams making an already marginal talent pool even thinner doesn't seem smart.

The lure of the expansion fees are too great I think. After so many years of losing money, the owners want to recoup some of the massive losses and the expansion fees are going to help get the owners a little closer to whole.

Also expansion was very important for the tv deal as the broadcasters wanted a bigger foot print.

Ignoring the finances, I would love an 18 team league, balanced schedule.

 

[El Floppo]

Nice week in the CCL for MLS teams.

DC, Portland, Montreal and KC all won. NY was the only team that lost and that was to Montreal.

Montreal and DC are in an excellent spot to advance to the quarters

Portland and KC are in very good spots to advance to quarters.

MLS has never put 4 teams in the quarter finals.

I literally actually true don't understand this year's NYRB.

Honestly never seen them play better going forward- some high quality stuff (mostly around Henry dropping deeper). They'll dominate teams, not score and then give up two random bizarre against hte run of play goals (ok- some of them are ok counters, but mostly it's just like... wtf just happened- *bam* goal). and then despite the dominating and skillful interchange, they still lose.

I was really hoping they'd make a run at the CL... but yeah, they're fighting for their post-season lives as it is.

 

[El Floppo]

Will MLS ever get rid of a salary cap?

Depends on what their goals are. If they want to maintain a parity-driven league where any team can be competitive from year to year, then no. If they want MLS teams to someday be competitive with the Bayerns and Barcelonas of the world, then yes, they'll have to. There's no way the US could support a league of 24+ teams all spending that kind of money. Even the NFL can't afford that.

yeah the revenue streams simply don't exist. The current generation of stadiums are way too small and the TV money simply could never generate what is needed.

Maybe in 25 years once this current generation of stadiums has to be replaced (and hopefully found that the league has out grown them), then maybe things could change but we are a long way away from a new generation of stadiums.

Even the current stadiums being built right now in SJ and Orlando are small.

RBNY @ 25k is too small, IMO- even though it's ####### perfect otherwise.

 

[El Floppo]

Is there even a single person arguing that Promotion Relegation is not exciting or good for competition?

I am unsure where this conversation is going. I think people are equating those of us saying it won't happen with saying we don't like it. I see it as two completely independent threads.

Let me address that specific point then. I don't think an exclusive franchise system can survive to maturity. Once it has established a strong fan base it's going to lose out to free marketers who will procure better players. Team loyalties will finish second.

I don't understand your point here.

I believe (strongly) that the teams that can pay the most money will always procure the best players. It does not matter if that league has promotion or relegation or not IMO. The players won't care about that any where near as much as their salary IMO.

=========================

sadly our points work out to this

a) an exclusive franchise system can not survive to maturity.

b) promotion relegation will never come to pass in the US

a+b means no domestic soccer. :(

As such I really hope you are wrong.

I actually think soccer has a fine future in the US. Just not with this group of MLS owners. Some other people are going to come along with larger goals.

Where do you see all these billionaires coming from that are going to swoop in and buy out the current group of billionaires?

Or are you talking 50-75 years from now? If you are talking that time frame, I won't argue because any thing can happen.

But if you expect that to happen in the next 10-20 years I think you will be very disappointed.

I dunno, andy- there are a young people out there making huge money in very little time... kids who grew up with the sport and are now finding that it's a legitimate business opportunity (and provides a certain cool cache). I can see the next Twitter/Facebook guy getting involved sooner than later.

 

[The Gator]

Nice week in the CCL for MLS teams.

DC, Portland, Montreal and KC all won. NY was the only team that lost and that was to Montreal.

Montreal and DC are in an excellent spot to advance to the quarters

Portland and KC are in very good spots to advance to quarters.

MLS has never put 4 teams in the quarter finals.

I literally actually true don't understand this year's NYRB.

Honestly never seen them play better going forward- some high quality stuff (mostly around Henry dropping deeper). They'll dominate teams, not score and then give up two random bizarre against hte run of play goals (ok- some of them are ok counters, but mostly it's just like... wtf just happened- *bam* goal). and then despite the dominating and skillful interchange, they still lose

The trying to emulate Liverpool? <_<

 

[T Bell]

I remember being in Córdoba when they were promoted to the 2nd Division 7 years ago. They whole city was excited and partying on the streets. This year they are playing in the 1st division after finishing 7th and winning the playoff. When they scored the winning goal, fans invaded the pitch. Promotion/regulation is very exciting.

While I agree with the sentiment - I think many european towns/cities identify with their club the way many Americans might identify with their college. Not many people are as passionate about their professional sports teams.

I think another thing that hurt the "american" version is the geography - nobody is close enough to develop the rivalries you see in European leagues. England, with the size of about Louisiana, has 92 teams in the top-4 divisions. Traveling fans in the PL are the expectation - whether its a Derby across town, or across the country.

I can't think of any rivalry right now, outside of Seattle - Portland that is anywhere close enough where fans would travel in numbers.

Galaxy - Chivas is in the same city, but it's not helped by Chivas being absolute horse dung. Your point's valid though- the US is massive, not remotely on the same geographic scale as European countries outside of Russia, which BTW doesn't have the greatest footballing fan culture.

 

[El Floppo]

I remember being in Córdoba when they were promoted to the 2nd Division 7 years ago. They whole city was excited and partying on the streets. This year they are playing in the 1st division after finishing 7th and winning the playoff. When they scored the winning goal, fans invaded the pitch. Promotion/regulation is very exciting.

While I agree with the sentiment - I think many european towns/cities identify with their club the way many Americans might identify with their college. Not many people are as passionate about their professional sports teams.

I think another thing that hurt the "american" version is the geography - nobody is close enough to develop the rivalries you see in European leagues. England, with the size of about Louisiana, has 92 teams in the top-4 divisions. Traveling fans in the PL are the expectation - whether its a Derby across town, or across the country.

I can't think of any rivalry right now, outside of Seattle - Portland that is anywhere close enough where fans would travel in numbers.

Galaxy - Chivas is in the same city, but it's not helped by Chivas being absolute horse dung. Your point's valid though- the US is massive, not remotely on the same geographic scale as European countries outside of Russia, which BTW doesn't have the greatest footballing fan culture.

The I95 trio have developed a pretty good saltiness, especially DC and NY due to longer history.

But Seattle Portland win- just for the volume (number and decibel) of their fans.

It'll be fun in the coming decades to see the fanbase grow, and develop large enough contingents of expats around the country to get good support at away games... from locals.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Will MLS ever get rid of a salary cap?

Depends on what their goals are. If they want to maintain a parity-driven league where any team can be competitive from year to year, then no. If they want MLS teams to someday be competitive with the Bayerns and Barcelonas of the world, then yes, they'll have to. There's no way the US could support a league of 24+ teams all spending that kind of money. Even the NFL can't afford that.

yeah the revenue streams simply don't exist. The current generation of stadiums are way too small and the TV money simply could never generate what is needed.

Maybe in 25 years once this current generation of stadiums has to be replaced (and hopefully found that the league has out grown them), then maybe things could change but we are a long way away from a new generation of stadiums.

Even the current stadiums being built right now in SJ and Orlando are small.

RBNY @ 25k is too small, IMO- even though it's ####### perfect otherwise.

It might be too small years from now but to be fair, Red Bull is hardly knocking that stadium out game in and game out. They have plenty of room to grow going forward.

The teams that are busting at the seams are Portland and KC.

 

[El Floppo]

Will MLS ever get rid of a salary cap?

Depends on what their goals are. If they want to maintain a parity-driven league where any team can be competitive from year to year, then no. If they want MLS teams to someday be competitive with the Bayerns and Barcelonas of the world, then yes, they'll have to. There's no way the US could support a league of 24+ teams all spending that kind of money. Even the NFL can't afford that.

yeah the revenue streams simply don't exist. The current generation of stadiums are way too small and the TV money simply could never generate what is needed.

Maybe in 25 years once this current generation of stadiums has to be replaced (and hopefully found that the league has out grown them), then maybe things could change but we are a long way away from a new generation of stadiums.

Even the current stadiums being built right now in SJ and Orlando are small.

RBNY @ 25k is too small, IMO- even though it's ####### perfect otherwise.

It might be too small years from now but to be fair, Red Bull is hardly knocking that stadium out game in and game out. They have plenty of room to grow going forward.

The teams that are busting at the seams are Portland and KC.

very true- I think RB is averaging somewhere just north of half that? maybe 15 or 16k? and the stadium works great for that.

I was definitely thinking of down-the-road, also "bigger games" that can't go there because it's too small.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Is there even a single person arguing that Promotion Relegation is not exciting or good for competition?

I am unsure where this conversation is going. I think people are equating those of us saying it won't happen with saying we don't like it. I see it as two completely independent threads.

Let me address that specific point then. I don't think an exclusive franchise system can survive to maturity. Once it has established a strong fan base it's going to lose out to free marketers who will procure better players. Team loyalties will finish second.

I don't understand your point here.

I believe (strongly) that the teams that can pay the most money will always procure the best players. It does not matter if that league has promotion or relegation or not IMO. The players won't care about that any where near as much as their salary IMO.

=========================

sadly our points work out to this

a) an exclusive franchise system can not survive to maturity.

b) promotion relegation will never come to pass in the US

a+b means no domestic soccer. :(

As such I really hope you are wrong.

I actually think soccer has a fine future in the US. Just not with this group of MLS owners. Some other people are going to come along with larger goals.

Where do you see all these billionaires coming from that are going to swoop in and buy out the current group of billionaires?

Or are you talking 50-75 years from now? If you are talking that time frame, I won't argue because any thing can happen.

But if you expect that to happen in the next 10-20 years I think you will be very disappointed.

I dunno, andy- there are a young people out there making huge money in very little time... kids who grew up with the sport and are now finding that it's a legitimate business opportunity (and provides a certain cool cache). I can see the next Twitter/Facebook guy getting involved sooner than later.

Sure, there are always rich guys.

I am just wondering why the next set will completely change the financial landscape when even Man City owners are seemingly happy with the current organization of the league.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Will MLS ever get rid of a salary cap?

Depends on what their goals are. If they want to maintain a parity-driven league where any team can be competitive from year to year, then no. If they want MLS teams to someday be competitive with the Bayerns and Barcelonas of the world, then yes, they'll have to. There's no way the US could support a league of 24+ teams all spending that kind of money. Even the NFL can't afford that.

yeah the revenue streams simply don't exist. The current generation of stadiums are way too small and the TV money simply could never generate what is needed.

Maybe in 25 years once this current generation of stadiums has to be replaced (and hopefully found that the league has out grown them), then maybe things could change but we are a long way away from a new generation of stadiums.

Even the current stadiums being built right now in SJ and Orlando are small.

RBNY @ 25k is too small, IMO- even though it's ####### perfect otherwise.

It might be too small years from now but to be fair, Red Bull is hardly knocking that stadium out game in and game out. They have plenty of room to grow going forward.

The teams that are busting at the seams are Portland and KC.

very true- I think RB is averaging somewhere just north of half that? maybe 15 or 16k? and the stadium works great for that.

I was definitely thinking of down-the-road, also "bigger games" that can't go there because it's too small.

The announced attendance so far this year averages 18,373 for Red Bull, but the actual butts in seats is probably closer to what you guessed.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Wow.

Just...wow. Wow.

http://screamer.deadspin.com/real-madrid-president-im-stupid-not-crooked-1636781883

 

[Good Posting Judge]

"We don't have any Australian players."

 

[Christo]

Nico!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Sinn Fein]

How did relegation fodder get on tv so early in the season?

 

[Christo]

How did relegation fodder get on tv so early in the season?

Says the fan of a team from a #### part of London.

 

[T Bell]

My illegal stream of the Villa-Arsenal match is killing me.

Anyone got a good live stream link for me?

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

How did relegation fodder get on tv so early in the season?

Get the "have to televise" teams out of the way early so the focus is on big clubs down the stretch?

 

[T Bell]

Wow, that was nice.

 

[T Bell]

Villa

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Save that one for "Fever for the Flava 14-15."

 

[Sinn Fein]

Well, that escalated quickly

 

[NewlyRetired]

My illegal stream of the Villa-Arsenal match is killing me.

Anyone got a good live stream link for me?

Use the NBC Sports Live Extra app. I can see every EPL game on it.

 

[T Bell]

Well, that escalated quickly

The phrase "goal eruption" sounds about right. Ozil and Welbeck connected twice, and then Cissokho stabbed one into his own net, though in fairness if he hadn't touched it Oxlade-Chamberlain would have finished at the far post relatively easily I think. Crazy 3 minutes.

 

[T Bell]

My illegal stream of the Villa-Arsenal match is killing me.

Anyone got a good live stream link for me?

Use the NBC Sports Live Extra app. I can see every EPL game on it.

Free app? For Android?

 

[NewlyRetired]

My illegal stream of the Villa-Arsenal match is killing me.

Anyone got a good live stream link for me?

Use the NBC Sports Live Extra app. I can see every EPL game on it.

Free app? For Android?

The app is free on ipad (you need to have nbcsn as part if your cable or sat package) . I don't own an android device so I can't answer that specifically but this link says that it is available on select andriod devices

http://stream.nbcsports.com/liveextra/about.html

 

[T Bell]

Wow, Bony was sent off with 2 yellows in the first half?

 

[T Bell]

My illegal stream of the Villa-Arsenal match is killing me.

Anyone got a good live stream link for me?

Use the NBC Sports Live Extra app. I can see every EPL game on it.

Free app? For Android?

The app is free on ipad (you need to have nbcsn as part if your cable or sat package) .I don't own an android device so I can't answer that specifically but this link says that it is available on select andriod devices

http://stream.nbcsports.com/liveextra/about.html

Looks like it's free for me, so I'm going to give it a try shortly. Thanks for the tip.

 

[Steve Tasker]

Also, since this is really the only thread that keeps me coming back to this site, I feel that I should apologize to NewlyRetired and anyone else if I have offended you. There's two basic things that you should know about me. 1) I'm highly highly sarcastic. To the point that I'm borderline caustic when attacked, so if I offend, it wasn't intentional. 2) If I'm posting at night, there is a possibility that I might be a little buzzed. So, you know. Take that as you will. Sometimes if I'm torched, I'll post something that cracks me up, and crickets.

Let's all go around the room and talk about what our greatest fears are. I'll start.

Werewolves.

Werewolf.

still have no idea wtf that is.

just proxy bdeep, i got this

proxy Derek

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Pep out?