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And in the NIT quarters:

Anderlecht v Manchester United

Celta Vigo v Genk

Ajax vs Schalke (nice come from behind win yesterday)

Lyon vs Besiktas

Who's the best of the bunch after ManU? Lyon? They looked pretty good taking down a decent Roma team.

 
roadkill1292 said:
And in the NIT quarters:

Anderlecht v Manchester United

Celta Vigo v Genk

Ajax vs Schalke (nice come from behind win yesterday)

Lyon vs Besiktas

Who's the best of the bunch after ManU? Lyon? They looked pretty good taking down a decent Roma team.
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No idea, but next time Besiktas has a home game televised, I am sure as #### watching it. 

 
B Maverick said:
Thats how the Barca v United match in Palo Alto looked last summer.  Kinda put the damper on trying to go (6 hour drive up or 45 min flight)

Rumors of a Manchester Derby in San Diego this summer.  Will be interesting to see those prices as well.
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I can only imagine what tickets for the RM vs BM game I saw last summer cost.

#### these people.

I still want to see Hamilton, but not for 1k per.

 
Yeah, I think we're getting Man U and either Barca or Real in DC.  And I have absolutely no interest in going.  I'd rather go see DC United play the Earthquakes or something. 

It hasn't hurt the ICC yet, but sooner of later, they're going to have some embarrassing attendance numbers.  It's started to burn US Soccer, as they've priced people out of qualifiers and friendlies so now our national team is playing in front of crappy crowds. 

 
El Floppo said:
I can only imagine what tickets for the RM vs BM game I saw last summer cost.

#### these people.

I still want to see Hamilton, but not for 1k per.
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Hamilton is a good comparison.  I can listen to the cast album on Spotify.  And I can watch soccer games on tv.  It's not the same experience, but close enough considering the cost. 

 
Ramsay Hunt Experience said:
Yeah, I think we're getting Man U and either Barca or Real in DC.  And I have absolutely no interest in going.  I'd rather go see DC United play the Earthquakes or something. 

It hasn't hurt the ICC yet, but sooner of later, they're going to have some embarrassing attendance numbers.  It's started to burn US Soccer, as they've priced people out of qualifiers and friendlies so now our national team is playing in front of crappy crowds. 
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I hate that I became a snob to these games years ago.  In the early 90's I would have sold a kidney to see friendlies like these live.  But the games are so poor and meaningless and the prices too high that it makes so little sense to me unless you are a die hard of the team.

 
EPL is back for the weekend!

City hosts Liverpool in the big game of the weekend

Tottenham v Southampton
WBA v Arsenal
Stoke v Chelsea

United travels to Middlesborough with no Zlatan, Herrera or Pogba. Probably means a lot of Fro but would prefer this:

                Rashford
Martial   Mata  Mkhi  Lingard
               Carrick
Blind  Rojo Bailley  Valencia

Although Martial my be hurt too... Guessing we see this if Rooney is fit

                Rooney
    Rashford Mkhi   Mata
          Fellaini Carrick
Blind  Rojo Bailley  Valencia

 
NewlyRetired said:
I hate that I became a snob to these games years ago.  In the early 90's I would have sold a kidney to see friendlies like these live.  But the games are so poor and meaningless and the prices too high that it makes so little sense to me unless you are a die hard of the team.
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Probably why I still go to the United games if local.  As much as I would love to see RM v Barca I am not paying for that

 
NewlyRetired said:
I hate that I became a snob to these games years ago.  In the early 90's I would have sold a kidney to see friendlies like these live.  But the games are so poor and meaningless and the prices too high that it makes so little sense to me unless you are a die hard of the team.
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Yeah, I suppose if I were with like DC Armoury and I spent every Saturday morning at Lucky Bar with them, I'd go with a group if Arsenal came to DC.  But I'd be lousy in a fan group, and nobody has ever appreciated my punning in Lucky Bar. 

 
Ramsay Hunt Experience said:
Hamilton is a good comparison.  I can listen to the cast album on Spotify.  And I can watch soccer games on tv.  It's not the same experience, but close enough considering the cost. 
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Hamilton is at least a real performance and in the mezz which is fine is cheaper...of course they're sold out for the next year.  

 
NewlyRetired said:
I hate that I became a snob to these games years ago.  In the early 90's I would have sold a kidney to see friendlies like these live.  But the games are so poor and meaningless and the prices too high that it makes so little sense to me unless you are a die hard of the team.
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Even if you are a die hard, it makes little sense.  The scarcity that existed in the 90's no longer does.  We can watch the starting XI of our favorite clubs play meaningful matches every week on tv, instead of paying hundreds of dollars to see mostly B teamers play a low stakes friendly.  I'd rather put that money towards a trip to Spain to see Barcelona play over there.  I used to go whenever Barca came to Southern California because I would think, "When am I ever going to see *insert name of Barcelona star here* play?"  Now I can see Messi and Co. on my television all the time.

 
I had a blast at the pre-season game I went to this year.  I've never been surrounded by LIV fans before, I got to see a practice, got to march in downtown St Louis with 40-50 LIV fans with flags and red smoke (I think the suburbanites had no idea what was happening), got to see a practice, and finally I got to see a pretty crappy game, all for about 100 bucks.  So for me, the value in the 100 bucks had little to do with the game.  A meaningless preseason game just didn't do much for me.

So for the Miami game...some of those prices are insane.  At what point do you look at the 400 bucks you've paid for a preseason ticket and start to price out a plane flight to Barcelona and a ticket to see an ACTUAL game?

 
shader said:
I had a blast at the pre-season game I went to this year.  I've never been surrounded by LIV fans before, I got to see a practice, got to march in downtown St Louis with 40-50 LIV fans with flags and red smoke (I think the suburbanites had no idea what was happening), got to see a practice, and finally I got to see a pretty crappy game, all for about 100 bucks.  So for me, the value in the 100 bucks had little to do with the game.  A meaningless preseason game just didn't do much for me.

So for the Miami game...some of those prices are insane.  At what point do you look at the 400 bucks you've paid for a preseason ticket and start to price out a plane flight to Barcelona and a ticket to see an ACTUAL game?
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This all sounds great with the exception of the team supported.  But I would expect to pay $100-150 for tickets.  When you are talking $1000 I expect to be sitting on the bench a few seats from Jose.

 
Atlanta sold out their second game at Bobby Dodd stadium, to be played on Saturday.  But it looks like the capacity has been reduced to 45k due to some renovations.  This will be the max capacity for the remaining games there before they move to the new stadium.

 
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Arsene Wenger says he's made his mind up about his future as Arsenal manager. Will reveal his decision "very soon"

:popcorn:

Hard to see why he would want to come back at this point, but you never know...

 
Minnesota picked up their first MLS point tonight in Colorado.  They even had to play down a man the last 20 minutes to do it.  Colorado must have taken them WAY too lightly.

 
So the rumors are that Wenger will sign a 1-year deal, instead of the original 2-year deal being offered by Arsenal.

This seems to be rather poorly thought out by Arsenal - given what looks like a big turnover at the club - if Sanchez, Ozil, Oxlade-Chamberlain, et al, leave this summer.  Gunners will have a lot to spend on transfers - but why (potentially) waste the transfer spend on a manager with such a short leash?

 
Sinn Fein said:
So the rumors are that Wenger will sign a 1-year deal, instead of the original 2-year deal being offered by Arsenal.

This seems to be rather poorly thought out by Arsenal - given what looks like a big turnover at the club - if Sanchez, Ozil, Oxlade-Chamberlain, et al, leave this summer.  Gunners will have a lot to spend on transfers - but why (potentially) waste the transfer spend on a manager with such a short leash?
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I agree. However, I would think with the exit strategy in place, it will give a legend a chance to go out in more celebratory fashion, rather than being booed/forced out at the end of this year. I think he deserves it, even if it comes at the expense of their year or next couple, as you say.

 
El Floppo said:
I agree. However, I would think with the exit strategy in place, it will give a legend a chance to go out in more celebratory fashion, rather than being booed/forced out at the end of this year. I think he deserves it, even if it comes at the expense of their year or next couple, as you say.
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To some degree he has earned the right to walk away on his own terms - but there is no guarantee next year will be any better - and potentially worse as a lame-duck coach.  I assume he does not look at it as simply one more season - but at some point there has to be an exit strategy.  If he said that he was walking away at the end of the season - I think all of the fans would celebrate his time at the club for the remainder of the season.  But, if he comes back, and the team struggles to chase a title, I think the end could get ugly.

 
10 games played vs other CL contenders:  20 pts, 2 pts/game

19 games played vs bottom 14 teams:  36 pts, < 2 pts/game

Tempting to look at the remaining schedule (0 games left against other top-6 teams) as an advantage (United and Arsenal both have three left), but considering the above -- maybe not.

 
NewlyRetired said:
The Spurs women's team had not lost in 28 games and then lost 10-0 to the women's Arsenal team.
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I think they are on different levels - i.e. Spurs ladies play a level below Arsenal ladies - but I can't swear to that.

ETA - Arsenal Ladies play in the Women's Super League, Spurs Ladies play in the Women's Premier League

 
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So, a little digging - there are 3 levels of Women's Football

Super League 1 - where Arsenal play

Super League 2

Premier League North and South (two divisions) - where Spurs play

Promotion and relegation between the leagues.

 
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