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NewlyRetired said:
My daughter knows next to nothing about sports.

I was very happy that I could make her understand the magnitude by using Zavan going to Richmond as an analogy and then she fully got it :)
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I would have used Zava to Richmond or Zlatan to LA, but you use whoever gets your point across :boxing:
 
:lmao: :lmao:

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Men in Blazers

@MenInBlazers


BARCA STATEMENT (eye roll): "President Laporta understood & respected Messi's decision to want to compete in league with fewer demands, further away from spotlight & pressure he has been subject to in recent years."

Fewer demands? Ever been to Minnesota on a Wednesday night in February?
 
Every one is going to be on pins and needles wondering who Garber may choose as his special player to play in the MLS All Star game vs Arsenal....
 
NewlyRetired said:
:lmao: :lmao:

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Men in Blazers
@MenInBlazers


BARCA STATEMENT (eye roll): "President Laporta understood & respected Messi's decision to want to compete in league with fewer demands, further away from spotlight & pressure he has been subject to in recent years."

Fewer demands? Ever been to Minnesota on a Wednesday night in February?
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Infinite LOL at Laporta. You drive the greatest player your team has ever had off because you couldn't stop shooting yourself in the **** and then throw a hissy fit when he won't bend over backwards to find a solution for you when you still can't afford to get him back.
 
gianmarco said:
Miami plays @STL on July 15th. Is it possible that's his debut? Ticket prices already soaring for that match.
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the timing seems just about perfect.

I assume it will be a while before everything is settled and he will probably need a couple of weeks of training. Having a home already in Miami will help speed the transition.

Middle of July seems just about right. Note that the all star game is July 19th and I am near certain they want him playing in that game so playing on the 15th makes good sense.
 
I saw some highlights of this game and was wondering why the stands wrere empty. It looked like covid again

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Tom Bogert

@tombogert


The greatest player ever announced he’s joining Inter Miami today and it wasn’t the weirdest story in MLS.

The weirdest story today was St Louis flying to Dallas to play 40 minutes of a game that started a month ago, resuming with a goal kick
 
Does any one know if Messi is allowed to play in the US Open Cup? Miami just advanced to the semi finals tonight and the semi's are not until August.
 
NewlyRetired said:
This is just the start

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The Spectator Index

@spectatorindex

BREAKING: Inter Miami gains over a million followers on social media within 10 minutes after Messi announces decision to play with them
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USMNT Only

@usmntonly

Inter Miami now has more followers on Instagram than any NFL, MLB, NHL or MLS team following Lionel Messi's arrival
1M to over 5M in less than 24 hours. WILD.
 
NewlyRetired said:
AAABatteries said:
AUFC hosts Miami September 16th - thinking I should cash in.
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I am very interested to see if he plays in the field turf games.

Zlatan, Drogba and many others avoided those games like the plague.
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Update - seats listed now in my section for around 1k per seat :lmao: these people are nuts. Think we are offering up our seats for $1,500. If we sell then it will cover about 40% of my season ticket - I’ve sold some other games already so I’ll pay for this season and get about 5-6 games for free. :pickle:
 
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Felipe Cárdenas

@FelipeCar

Sergio Aguero on ESPN Argentina said that he spoke to Leo Messi yesterday.

Aguero sent Messi a message with a screenshot of the Eastern conf. standings.

Aguero: "Your team is behind! You have to move up to 8th/9th." Messi cracked up. He said we have to make the playoffs.
 
AAABatteries said:
NewlyRetired said:
AAABatteries said:
AUFC hosts Miami September 16th - thinking I should cash in.
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I am very interested to see if he plays in the field turf games.

Zlatan, Drogba and many others avoided those games like the plague.
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Update - seats listed now in my section for around 1k per seat :lmao: these people are nuts. Think we are offering up our seats for $1,500. If we sell then it will cover about 40% of my season ticket - I’ve sold some other games already so I’ll pay for this season and get about 5-6 games for free. :pickle:
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Wait, what, your season tickets are how much?
 
titusbramble said:
AAABatteries said:
NewlyRetired said:
AAABatteries said:
AUFC hosts Miami September 16th - thinking I should cash in.
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I am very interested to see if he plays in the field turf games.

Zlatan, Drogba and many others avoided those games like the plague.
Click to expand...

Update - seats listed now in my section for around 1k per seat :lmao: these people are nuts. Think we are offering up our seats for $1,500. If we sell then it will cover about 40% of my season ticket - I’ve sold some other games already so I’ll pay for this season and get about 5-6 games for free. :pickle:
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Wait, what, your season tickets are how much?
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scroll down and you can see the different packages that Atlanta offers for season tickets

 
NewlyRetired said:
titusbramble said:
AAABatteries said:
NewlyRetired said:
AAABatteries said:
AUFC hosts Miami September 16th - thinking I should cash in.
Click to expand...

I am very interested to see if he plays in the field turf games.

Zlatan, Drogba and many others avoided those games like the plague.
Click to expand...

Update - seats listed now in my section for around 1k per seat :lmao: these people are nuts. Think we are offering up our seats for $1,500. If we sell then it will cover about 40% of my season ticket - I’ve sold some other games already so I’ll pay for this season and get about 5-6 games for free. :pickle:
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Wait, what, your season tickets are how much?
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scroll down and you can see the different packages that Atlanta offers for season tickets

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Cheers, looks like there's a huge amount of effectively corporate seats which might explain my question. I looked at your initial post and then ran our pricing through xe and thought "so if our most expensive non corporate season tickets are under $700, that seems costly"
 
IIRC my season tix for DCU back in the heyday were $17 a pop. Midfield, first row of the 2nd mezzanine (2nd section off the field).

btw... I'll try to share a photo at some point, but one year season tix were oversized, with images of the players taking up most of the ticket. Many of them were scanned too (not torn) so the whole ticket is still intact. I think I'm missing one or two from the season, but have almost all of them. Etcheverry, Moreno, Harkes, Pope, etc. Some fairly pivotal players in the history of MLS/US soccer.
 
Dinsy Ejotuz said:
IIRC my season tix for DCU back in the heyday were $17 a pop. Midfield, first row of the 2nd mezzanine (2nd section off the field).

btw... I'll try to share a photo at some point, but one year season tix were oversized, with images of the players taking up most of the ticket. Many of them were scanned too (not torn) so the whole ticket is still intact. I think I'm missing one or two from the season, but have almost all of them. Etcheverry, Moreno, Harkes, Pope, etc. Some fairly pivotal players in the history of MLS/US soccer.
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back in the day when tickets were a physical entity a lot of clubs did some really cool things like what you described above.

The digital world is certainly more convinent but there is still something in my old bones that enjoys the tactile feel of a cool ticket, book, blu ray, magazine...what ever.....
 
NewlyRetired said:
titusbramble said:
AAABatteries said:
NewlyRetired said:
AAABatteries said:
AUFC hosts Miami September 16th - thinking I should cash in.
Click to expand...

I am very interested to see if he plays in the field turf games.

Zlatan, Drogba and many others avoided those games like the plague.
Click to expand...

Update - seats listed now in my section for around 1k per seat :lmao: these people are nuts. Think we are offering up our seats for $1,500. If we sell then it will cover about 40% of my season ticket - I’ve sold some other games already so I’ll pay for this season and get about 5-6 games for free. :pickle:
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Wait, what, your season tickets are how much?
Click to expand...
scroll down and you can see the different packages that Atlanta offers for season tickets

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Yeah, to answer titus’ question I’m in the Harrah’s Cherokee club level seats and I’m a founding member - $1,870 per seat. We offered them to a guy for $750 per seat - right at 40% of the season ticket.
 
The seeds were planted a while ago, even if tongue in cheek

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In a video posted in 2018 regarding Beckham's ownership in Miami, Messi stated, “Hi David, First of all, congratulations. I wanted to wish you all the best in this new project, in this new role for you. And who knows, maybe in a few years, you can give me a call.”
 
So I think we can all agree that there were previously two seminal moments in US Soccer where a player came to the US and had a lasting, major effect.

We can see through the eyes of history, what happened after Pele came and what happened after Becks came.

Even as a long time fan, I do not have a good feel for the effect Messi is going to have. The sport is in a significantly different spot than where Pele or even where Beckham found it in the US when they came.

It is impossible for me to find any negatives in the Messi move here, but I have no idea how positive it could be.

I do think, specifically because WC2026 is so close, that there could be a perfect storm coming but the practical side of me says both events (Messi and WC) will just continue the slow steady progress of the sport in the US.

I am interested to hear other people's thoughts on the effects we may encounter over the next decade...
 
NewlyRetired said:
So I think we can all agree that there were previously two seminal moments in US Soccer where a player came to the US and had a lasting, major effect.
We can see through the eyes of history, what happened after Pele came and what happened after Becks came.
Even as a long time fan, I do not have a good feel for the effect Messi is going to have. The sport is in a significantly different spot than where Pele or even where Beckham found it in the US when they came.
It is impossible for me to find any negatives in the Messi move here, but I have no idea how positive it could be.
I do think, specifically because WC2026 is so close, that there could be a perfect storm coming but the practical side of me says both events (Messi and WC) will just continue the slow steady progress of the sport in the US.
I am interested to hear other people's thoughts on the effects we may encounter over the next decade...
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I agree and do not see this having the same impact as those two. Like you said, its a different time and place.
Where this might help is getting more subscribers to AppleTV. At least for a season it might help. Although my Mom, who does watch a lot of games, told me she still won't subscribe.

I do wonder how much he actually plays. Does he fall into the Nani, Kaka, Keane side or more of the Pirlo, Lampard, Gerrard side?
 
B Maverick said:
I do wonder how much he actually plays. Does he fall into the Nani, Kaka, Keane side or more of the Pirlo, Lampard, Gerrard side?
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I think field turf is the key to this question.

If he plays on that surface, he will play a lot. If not, his playing time will obviously diminish. I hope this topic was broached as part of the deal.
 
I read comments on the BBC website about Messi's move... Mostly positive in the "easy place to get put out to pasture/lesser of 2 evils (vs Saudi)" vein.

I think here, it will boost ticket and subscription sales. Might also cause some casual to non-fans to take a look for a few minutes.

But as andy said, the system is finally in place here and already starting to produce an increasingly higher level professional product. I don't see his arrival doing much of anything to steepen that trajectory.
 
B Maverick said:
I agree and do not see this having the same impact as those two. Like you said, its a different time and place.
Where this might help is getting more subscribers to AppleTV. At least for a season it might help. Although my Mom, who does watch a lot of games, told me she still won't subscribe.
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I won't be subscribing either. But that is more a short term question than what I was wondering, I am talking more long term effects.

One big difference between Beck's and Messi's impact will be language. Messi's native Spanish speaking will likely get the enormous spanish speaking portion of our fan base to engage in ways that maybe have not happened before. At least I hope.
 
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NewlyRetired said:
B Maverick said:
I agree and do not see this having the same impact as those two. Like you said, its a different time and place.
Where this might help is getting more subscribers to AppleTV. At least for a season it might help. Although my Mom, who does watch a lot of games, told me she still won't subscribe.
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I won't be subscribing either. But that is more a short term question than what I was wondering, I am talking more long term effects.

One big difference between Beck's and Messi's impact will be language. Messi's native Spanish speaking will likely get the enormous spanish speaking portion of our fan base to engage in ways that maybe have not happened before. At least I hope.
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Good point
 
El Floppo said:
NewlyRetired said:
B Maverick said:
I agree and do not see this having the same impact as those two. Like you said, its a different time and place.
Where this might help is getting more subscribers to AppleTV. At least for a season it might help. Although my Mom, who does watch a lot of games, told me she still won't subscribe.
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I won't be subscribing either. But that is more a short term question than what I was wondering, I am talking more long term effects.

One big difference between Beck's and Messi's impact will be language. Messi's native Spanish speaking will likely get the enormous spanish speaking portion of our fan base to engage in ways that maybe have not happened before. At least I hope.
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Good point
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I just want momentum to continue.

Between Messi, Copa America, and WC2026, we have more instigators of momentum in a short period of time than we have ever had in our sports history in this country.

My true hope is that "slow steady progress" is the absolute minimum we will look back on in ten years and claim happened. There are the ingredients in place for more to happen.
 
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My season ticket for FC Milwaukee Torrent (NPSL) is $50 and I buy 2, even though my son never goes and I only go to a few games (which are $5 for single admission). They are general admission and fully transferable, meaning I can give the season ticket to anyone to use for any game. The field is very near my house - its the same field where my son plays his home lacrosse games and is also used by a couple local high school football teams and several youth soccer clubs. During the COVID year, the field was used by Forward Madison FC (USL League 1) because their home city had shut them down but Milwaukee was more permissive. I've bought the season ticket just to support my local club - its more like a donation. In 2025 we're getting a USL Championship team with a brand new downtown stadium and I'm sure the price will go way up. Hoping to get my firm to pay for that ticket.
 
The Athletic did a nice job today on how Miami can use the crazy MLS roster rules to build FC Amigos as @Desert_Power dubbed them.

They will have to make a bunch of moves to pull it off but seems doable with out MLS creating a "Messi needs friends" rule (although I would not count that out either). This assumes anyone else even wants to come of course but Messi likely makes it enticing for a couple of guys if some decent salary money is there.
 
NewlyRetired said:
B Maverick said:
I do wonder how much he actually plays. Does he fall into the Nani, Kaka, Keane side or more of the Pirlo, Lampard, Gerrard side?
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I think field turf is the key to this question.

If he plays on that surface, he will play a lot. If not, his playing time will obviously diminish. I hope this topic was broached as part of the deal.
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You people need to stop with this field turf crap - guy replied about out offer and said he heard that he may not play so wanted to wait. :rant:
 
AAABatteries said:
NewlyRetired said:
B Maverick said:
I do wonder how much he actually plays. Does he fall into the Nani, Kaka, Keane side or more of the Pirlo, Lampard, Gerrard side?
Click to expand...

I think field turf is the key to this question.

If he plays on that surface, he will play a lot. If not, his playing time will obviously diminish. I hope this topic was broached as part of the deal.
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You people need to stop with this field turf crap - guy replied about out offer and said he heard that he may not play so wanted to wait. :rant:
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are you the first away field turf game after mid July by the way?
 
It led the sports segment of the local news the other night here in KC and we don’t even have a home match against Miami this year. Granted the Royals are terrible and there is nothing to talk about right now regarding the Chiefs, but I think this is going to be a huge deal that will have a massive impact on the league long-term.
 
How long does he stay healthy, how well does he play, how seriously is he taking it, can he rise above the quality of his teammates? Think his impact is hard to predict without knowing.
 
Dinsy Ejotuz said:
How long does he stay healthy, how well does he play, how seriously is he taking it, can he rise above the quality of his teammates? Think his impact is hard to predict without knowing.
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1. I'm not sure I know of a player who has been largely healthy for as long as Messi. Really only one significant injury in his career that I can remember.
2. He was probably the best chance creator in Europe this season. Maybe you'd prefer KDB, but I'm pretty sure Messi's chance creation and xA were better.
3. I think if he viewed this as his retirement, he wouldn't still be insisting on playing for Argentina.
4. This is the big question (as is the question of how much they'll be able to turn over the roster into the Friends of Leo), but his free kick ability alone will probably be worth 5 points or so over the season.
 
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