roadkill1292
Footballguy
That's accurate IMO as well. It was kind of a forerunner of how things have gone lately at St. Mary's.
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I should add that Spurs have qualified for the knockout and most fans want to see a fully rotated squad this week against Monaco at home. Same fans were also furious that Spurs played a strong squad away at Qarabag (in Azerbaijan) before the Chelsea match - but I don't think it had any impact on the Chelsea game. Chelsea came ready to park the bus at WHL, and I thought Chelsea were very organized on defense for a change this season - resting players mid-week would not have helped Spurs unlock that defense.
I expect that Spurs will split the baby here - and start a strong club - but might rotate a little bit more than normal - but no youth players.
I expect that Spurs will split the baby here - and start a strong club - but might rotate a little bit more than normal - but no youth players.
Eephus
Footballguy
On the positive side, Monk's sacking frees him up to take the England job.
In retrospect, it's easy to say he lacked the experience for a top-flight job but he got good results for a while. I don't understand why they had a quiet summer. They needed to find a goalscorer to replace Bony and Eder wasn't it. The bottom half of the league is so competitive now that if a team isn't improving, it's falling behind.
B Maverick
Footballguy
For a coach that preaches pace and possession, his continued reliance on the big fro is asinine. I dont get it. Then to compound it by leaving him in and subbing Mata out while chasing a goal? WTF? Add to that sending in Nick Powell while leaving Young and Perreira on the bench? A guy not seen since the MK Dons debacle? Inuries are one thing, but his subbing has never once made sense.Well - United were horrible but if the goal is to actually win the CL then getting eliminated this season isn't the end of the world. They were never going to win the competition - no chance. And it has to help their top-4 chances for this year (even if just a little) because I don't see them taking Europa too seriously. Also - it may mean that LvG is gone sooner rather than later which could be good. Sucks they didn't advance but they didn't deserve to go through. The funny thing is that I think LvG panicked somewhat today. I don't think he trusted his team to get a 1-0 win so he set them up to score and not defend. May have been their undoing - they were horrible defensively. And the fact thatcontinues to play is mind-boggling. Hopefully they don't compound things by panic-buying during the window.
To me the draw at home to PSV was worse and why they are out. Going to Wolfsburg was never going to be easy. So to throw away the PSV game with a play for a draw at home was worse.
This can not be stressed enough. The players who played major roles in this team were either crap under Moyes or shipped out by LVG and deemed not good enough. Where I agree with some of them (Cleverly, OShea, Evans) it just goes to show how SAF got the most out of his players and the United system.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Julien Green is starting a CL game for Bayern?
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
Floppo mention this yesterday in the US thread that he was going to make the trip. That is cool that he is starting.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
Pretty big news from MLS today
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MLS announces $37 million investment in Targeted Allocation Money, Homegrown Player funds for 2016-17
Major League Soccer announced on Wednesday that it will be investing an additional $37 million in player compensation over the next two years with the goal of “providing clubs the opportunity to sign more impact players in the middle of the roster and add young Homegrown talent,” according to a league statement.
The additional funds, which supplement the current $3.6 million salary budget per team in 2016, come in two forms: $800,000 of Targeted Allocation Money (TAM) in both 2016 and 2017 and $125,000 in extra Homegrown Player funds for each of the next two years.
TAM was initially introduced in 2015 as part of the new Collective Bargaining Agreement with the MLS Players Union which called for an additional $500,000 for each of the league’s 20 teams to be used during the five years of the CBA (2015-2019). Players like Johan Venegas (Montreal Impact), Gaston Sauro (Columbus Crew SC) and Anibal Godoy (San Jose Earthquakes) were signed with TAM money which allowed their salaries to be paid down to fit under the maximum salary budget charge of $457,500.
“By injecting an additional $37 million into the system, our clubs will be able to strengthen the depth of their rosters by signing more high-quality players,” MLS Deputy Commissioner Mark Abbott said in a league statement. “We saw immediate dividends this past season with the initial investment in Targeted Allocation Money, and our owners believe that additional spending -- especially for players who will impact the middle of our rosters -- will make MLS even more entertaining and compelling.”
Here’s how the new injection of TAM funds will work:
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MLS announces $37 million investment in Targeted Allocation Money, Homegrown Player funds for 2016-17
Major League Soccer announced on Wednesday that it will be investing an additional $37 million in player compensation over the next two years with the goal of “providing clubs the opportunity to sign more impact players in the middle of the roster and add young Homegrown talent,” according to a league statement.
The additional funds, which supplement the current $3.6 million salary budget per team in 2016, come in two forms: $800,000 of Targeted Allocation Money (TAM) in both 2016 and 2017 and $125,000 in extra Homegrown Player funds for each of the next two years.
TAM was initially introduced in 2015 as part of the new Collective Bargaining Agreement with the MLS Players Union which called for an additional $500,000 for each of the league’s 20 teams to be used during the five years of the CBA (2015-2019). Players like Johan Venegas (Montreal Impact), Gaston Sauro (Columbus Crew SC) and Anibal Godoy (San Jose Earthquakes) were signed with TAM money which allowed their salaries to be paid down to fit under the maximum salary budget charge of $457,500.
“By injecting an additional $37 million into the system, our clubs will be able to strengthen the depth of their rosters by signing more high-quality players,” MLS Deputy Commissioner Mark Abbott said in a league statement. “We saw immediate dividends this past season with the initial investment in Targeted Allocation Money, and our owners believe that additional spending -- especially for players who will impact the middle of our rosters -- will make MLS even more entertaining and compelling.”
Here’s how the new injection of TAM funds will work:
- TAM can be used to sign new players or re-sign current players that earn between $457,500 and $1 million;
- TAM can be used to buy down a player contract to free up a Designated Player slot. If that happens, the club must simultaneously sign a new Designated Player at an investment equal or greater to than the player he is replacing;
- Teams are not permitted to combine TAM and general allocation money on a player. Either TAM or general allocation money may be used on a player in a single season, not both;
- TAM money can be traded by clubs;
- The minimum budget charge for a player signing that uses TAM funds is $150,000; Any part of the $800,000 in TAM funds that go unused in 2016 will carry over to 2017;
- Teams are allowed to commit, but not use or disburse, 2017 TAM funds toward a 2016 player contract;
- Any of the $1.6 million in TAM funds per team that go unused by the end of the 2017 summer transfer window will revert back to the league.
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Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
The German clubs take a winter break in the league. Even if the other continental league don't, the EPL is the only league I can think of that packs more fixture congestion from the league into "the festive season." English teams almost always enter 2016 exhausted.Sebowski said:
Autumn Wind
Footballguy
I'm torn about the Garry Monk firing. On the one hand the board likely had a role in Swansea's failure to replace Bony. And let's be clear, despite how high they finished in 14-15 they were not the same team after Bony left.
On the other hand, I have watched a core group of the same players who dazzled in their respective roles last year under Monk -- Sigurdsson, Ki, Shelvey, Williams, Cork, even Fabianski - look completely flat and disorganized ever since September. So whose fault is that? Probably a little blame to go all around but this is modern sports so firing the team is not really an option is it?
The disturbing thing for this season is that the team doesn't seem to even have a suitable replacement lined up if press reports are to be believed. Hell, they haven't even named a caretaker. Unless they find someone who can whip this group of underachievers into shape and find a legitimate scoring threat in January, they'll be Championship League-bound.
On the other hand, I have watched a core group of the same players who dazzled in their respective roles last year under Monk -- Sigurdsson, Ki, Shelvey, Williams, Cork, even Fabianski - look completely flat and disorganized ever since September. So whose fault is that? Probably a little blame to go all around but this is modern sports so firing the team is not really an option is it?
The disturbing thing for this season is that the team doesn't seem to even have a suitable replacement lined up if press reports are to be believed. Hell, they haven't even named a caretaker. Unless they find someone who can whip this group of underachievers into shape and find a legitimate scoring threat in January, they'll be Championship League-bound.
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El Floppo
Footballguy
I dunno- the last time the entered 2016, they seemed pretty fresh. like... funky fresh.
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
And players get jaded. And as more new players are brought in, less and less of the team gives a crap that their manager was a club legend because they have no link to him. Montero looked absolutely electric in his first few games, but he's a guy who appears to quickly stop giving a crap when things get tough. Ayew, at least, has been pretty productive. When Jonjo Shelvey is, by far, your best CM, the league is going to catch up with you.Eephus said:
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
Mjolnirs
Footballguy
roadkill1292
Footballguy
El Floppo
Footballguy
Sebowski
Footballguy
Yeah, I know the parable. Just never heard it used quite that way before.Sebowski said:I do what I can
ETA - its from the Solomon parable - maybe not in wide usage?
PIK95
Footballguy
I did a bit but fell asleep. Nothing jumped out at me.
Poke_4_Life
Footballguy
This. Was watching the replay last night. Pretty sure Green was out there, but nothing else.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
This rumor about the possible first coach for Atlanta United really makes a ton of sense.
http://www.dirtysouthsoccer.com/2015/12/9/9881156/atlanta-united-josh-wolff-manager-usmnt
http://www.dirtysouthsoccer.com/2015/12/9/9881156/atlanta-united-josh-wolff-manager-usmnt
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
More Atlanta rumors. This is in Spanish but I am pretty sure it is saying Atlanta is targeting Marco Fabian as their first signing.
http://espndeportes.espn.go.com/futbol/mexico/nota/_/id/2547354/marco-fabian-tiene-como-prioridad-emigrar-del-futbol-mexicano
http://espndeportes.espn.go.com/futbol/mexico/nota/_/id/2547354/marco-fabian-tiene-como-prioridad-emigrar-del-futbol-mexicano
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
I did not watch the game but in looking him up on whoscored, he was tied for the lowest rated player on BM (with Ribery) and had the least touches on the team so your guys review seems right on the mark
.http://www.whoscored.com/Matches/1017510/LiveStatistics/Europe-UEFA-Champions-League-2015-2016-Dinamo-Zagreb-Bayern-Munich
Sebowski
Footballguy
GoFishTN
Footballguy
Sebowski
Footballguy
Awesome. If I'm up by more than a goal in the 90th in Fifa I try that all the time. Only scored once.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
I might be forgetting someone but I think Caleb Porter is now the 3rd person to coach a team to both a college and MLS Championship.
The other 2 I can think of were Sigi and Arena.
The other 2 I can think of were Sigi and Arena.
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
Arnold Peralta, a Honduran international who has played against the US and MLS teams numerous times was murdered today while on vacation. He was only 26.
oh jesus. He was shot dead while buying baby clothes for his new baby in front of his wife.
:(
oh jesus. He was shot dead while buying baby clothes for his new baby in front of his wife.
:(
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El Floppo
Footballguy
jonessed
Footballguy
Maybe T&T should have gone ahead and played in Hawaii - might have been safer...
Alex Morgan goes in stud up on keeper and draws penalty
B Maverick
Footballguy
Who would of thought that Alex Morgan is awesome enough to be able to touch a keeper and get the call.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
Agence France-PresseVerified account@AFP
#BREAKING "Platini will certainly be suspended for several years" - FIFA ethics spokesman
#BREAKING "Platini will certainly be suspended for several years" - FIFA ethics spokesman
Ted Lange as your Bartender
Footballguy
Euros:
Group A: France, Romania, Albania, Switzerland
Group B: England, Russia, Wales, Slovakia
Group C: Germany, Ukraine, Poland, Northern Ireland
Group D: Spain, Czech Republic, Turkey, Croatia
Group E: Belgium, Italy, Rep of Ireland, Sweden
Group F: Portugal, Iceland, Austria, Hungary
Group A: France, Romania, Albania, Switzerland
Group B: England, Russia, Wales, Slovakia
Group C: Germany, Ukraine, Poland, Northern Ireland
Group D: Spain, Czech Republic, Turkey, Croatia
Group E: Belgium, Italy, Rep of Ireland, Sweden
Group F: Portugal, Iceland, Austria, Hungary
