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Looks like the Mane injury isn't great.  There is still swelling, but there is a thought that the injury is something ranging from 3 weeks to the end of the season.  My biggest fear is that it's a tear that would put Mane out until 2018...That's a nightmare scenario.

In either event, Liverpool should have the firepower to get through these next games.  Time for Divock Origi and Daniel Sturridge to step up.

A year and a half ago, Liverpool couldn't muster anything on offense without DS in the lineup.  Now the hope is that he can provide SOMETHING to the team.  Not a good career trajectory for him. 

 
Southampton FC tweets out a "This day in Saints history" video every day, which is usually lots of fun. But the other day they tweeted a vid of Rickie Lambert scoring against Palace or somebody in 2013 and then being mobbed by half the Liverpool team.

 
shader said:
Looks like the Mane injury isn't great.  There is still swelling, but there is a thought that the injury is something ranging from 3 weeks to the end of the season.  My biggest fear is that it's a tear that would put Mane out until 2018...That's a nightmare scenario.

In either event, Liverpool should have the firepower to get through these next games.  Time for Divock Origi and Daniel Sturridge to step up.

A year and a half ago, Liverpool couldn't muster anything on offense without DS in the lineup.  Now the hope is that he can provide SOMETHING to the team.  Not a good career trajectory for him. 
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How do you make all these assumptions from "We don't know until the swelling does down."?

 
charvik said:
How do you make all these assumptions from "We don't know until the swelling does down."?
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When Mane's "swelling" goes down, Shader's goes up.

Take it easy, Shader...I jest..,

 
Kafka said:
I had honestly never heard of him.  Just searched him up on YouTube.  What a joy, what a talent.  Grazie.
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8 caps for England.  Can you imagine if the US had a guy who scored goals like that and we only gave him a handful of caps?  This was when England was still good, but sheesh. 

 
I've seen a bunch of Le Tissier highlights the past few years, which were routinely amazing. You can't go by a highlights package but if he was the real deal, I'm sorry I'm missed those years. 

I'm also sorry I missed the days of long billowing shirt sleeves and shorty shorts.

 
charvik said:
How do you make all these assumptions from "We don't know until the swelling does down."?
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All reports I've read are that it's meniscus related, which usually ranges from a few weeks to a few months.  

 
How would you guys answer this question for US Soccer?

Typically US Soccer has 4 teams qualify for the Concacaf Champions League.

Due to the reconfiguration of the Champions League, US Soccer needs to be nimble the next two years and only qualify two teams each year until they sync back up in 2019 and go back to the 4 teams.

There seems to be 3 logical choices from which to qualify the two teams.   MLS Cup Winner, MLS Supporters Shield Winner, US Open Cup winner.

Which 2 of these 3 makes the most sense to give the CCL qualification spot to?

 
Ramsay Hunt Experience said:
8 caps for England.  Can you imagine if the US had a guy who scored goals like that and we only gave him a handful of caps?  This was when England was still good, but sheesh. 
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Ironically, Matthew's club career was peaking right at the time the English international level soccer was starting their decline.   The missed out qualification for WC94 really started their now multiple decade descent into just another "good" playing country outside of the momentary blip in 96 when they hosted the European Championship.

One could argue that he was better than any US player ever, even Donovan (at least up until Pulisic finishes puberty), at least at the club level. 

 
Vanilla Guerrilla said:
He kinda looks like a ######ed Dustin Hoffman.  Great highlight reel though.  Was he that great or is some of it a massive number of attempts on goal?
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He scored 161 top flight English league goals as a midfielder in 443 games.  Lampard scored 177 top flight English league goals as a midfielder in 609 games.  So yeah, pretty good. 

 
NewlyRetired said:
How would you guys answer this question for US Soccer?

Typically US Soccer has 4 teams qualify for the Concacaf Champions League.

Due to the reconfiguration of the Champions League, US Soccer needs to be nimble the next two years and only qualify two teams each year until they sync back up in 2019 and go back to the 4 teams.

There seems to be 3 logical choices from which to qualify the two teams.   MLS Cup Winner, MLS Supporters Shield Winner, US Open Cup winner.

Which 2 of these 3 makes the most sense to give the CCL qualification spot to?
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Supporters Shield and MLS Cup Winner.  I don't think it really matters though.  

 
Neat NYCFC factoid...last Saturday was just the 3rd time in their history where they won without a DP scoring...all three times Tommy McNamara scored. Guy can't get off the bench right now.  

 
NewlyRetired said:
How would you guys answer this question for US Soccer?

Typically US Soccer has 4 teams qualify for the Concacaf Champions League.

Due to the reconfiguration of the Champions League, US Soccer needs to be nimble the next two years and only qualify two teams each year until they sync back up in 2019 and go back to the 4 teams.

There seems to be 3 logical choices from which to qualify the two teams.   MLS Cup Winner, MLS Supporters Shield Winner, US Open Cup winner.

Which 2 of these 3 makes the most sense to give the CCL qualification spot to?
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Shield and Open Cup. 

 
NewlyRetired said:
Big day in St Louis today.   If the vote goes their way, I think they are a lock for an MLS expansion team.
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Yup, it's all but done. The vote's going to be more interesting than it should be, though, because only St. Louis city voters can vote. St. Louis County voters outside city limits, where a lot of the fanbase would be quite frankly, can't. However, I think it'll pass, but it might be a bit close for comfort. Some people are still pissed at Stan Kroenke and the dome he left behind, which the city still owes on, and are reluctant to spend city funds on a stadium again.

Really hopeful it passes. I have a team I support in England (Liverpool), Spain (Real Oviedo), Germany (Dortmund), Italy (Roma), and kinda sorta France (Monaco), but I haven't really had a reason to root for anyone in MLS yet. As a native St. Louisan, I'd be all-in on a STL MLS team.

 
NewlyRetired said:
I am not well read on the vote but I think their are two separate votes that have to pass for the stadium to be built today.
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Correct. Prop 1 and Prop 2. Prop 2 is specifically the stadium, Prop 1 is, in a nutshell, opening up the funding revenue for the stadium and other things. Yes votes are needed on both.

 
Another drab 1-1 draw for United.  Only got to see about 20 mins but United looked out of ideas in the final 3rd.  Another plethora of crosses to noone.  Fellaini sucking.  Zlatan having a goal called back incorrectly.  Everton allowed to manhandle Rashford and Pogba.  Still in 5th (which is the new still in 6th), at least until Arsenal win tomorrow.  But even with games in hand, I do not see a top 4 in their future.  

CONCENTRATE ON THE EUROPA LEAGUE

 
Hoffenheim beat Bayern today 1-0. 

Bayerns 2nd league loss of the season, and Hoffenheim's first win over Bayern ever. 

 
NewlyRetired said:
How would you guys answer this question for US Soccer?

Typically US Soccer has 4 teams qualify for the Concacaf Champions League.

Due to the reconfiguration of the Champions League, US Soccer needs to be nimble the next two years and only qualify two teams each year until they sync back up in 2019 and go back to the 4 teams.

There seems to be 3 logical choices from which to qualify the two teams.   MLS Cup Winner, MLS Supporters Shield Winner, US Open Cup winner.

Which 2 of these 3 makes the most sense to give the CCL qualification spot to?
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Shield - Gives best team proven over long season a shot

MLS Cup - Slightly over Open Cup. Shorter tourney but over better competition and higher pressure. Sucks cause it makes the Open Cup meaningless, but it isn't big ticket viewing right now. 

 
gianmarco said:
Ugh. Prop 1 passing but Prop 2 isn't. Not final, but not looking likely.
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yeah, not looking good


St. Louis Proposition 2 (Soccer stadium)


120 of 222 precincts reporting (54.1%)• More than 50% needed to pass measure


Name


Votes


Pct.


 


Yes - For the measure


17,269


 48.5%



 



No - Against the measure


18,323


 51.5%



 


 
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Prop 2 fails 47%-53%. And yet, Prop 1, which is tied into the soccer stadium, passes by 20 points.

Unless a plan B magically appears and the $60 mil is made up some other way, MLS to St. Louis is dead. 

I'm going to be sick. This city just ####### hates itself and doesn't want to grow.

 
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