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Can't happen soon enough.  They should be running a "soccer comes home" theme.  For the longest time in the dark ages, this was the only city that cared even a little for the sport.

Anthony Kristensen

Hearing from a few different sources that MLS coming to St. Louis is a done deal and that the announcement will be made during MLS All-Star Weekend

 
NewlyRetired said:
Can't happen soon enough.  They should be running a "soccer comes home" theme.  For the longest time in the dark ages, this was the only city that cared even a little for the sport.

Anthony Kristensen

Hearing from a few different sources that MLS coming to St. Louis is a done deal and that the announcement will be made during MLS All-Star Weekend
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I always was surprised MLS made it to 80 clubs or whatever without a franchise in St. Louis. 

 
McBokonon said:
Benitez leaves role as Newcastle manager.

As Newcastle's newest fan, am I happy to see this bum gone, or upset we let him get away?
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It’s a tough one, he’s a great coach.

If you’re in the Toon Army, part of the indoctrination is you love all things Alan Shearer and hate all things Mike Ashley. We don’t have time to cover either in depth, but that’s your baseline.

Magpies have hated Ashley since Year 2 (it all started over him drinking a beer in the stands - you can’t drink within sight of the pitch), and within a week of that incident his management team ousted the hugely popular manager - himself a superstar player and highly successful coach. He immediately played the victim card, OK I got the message, you want me out, and he’s been “trying” to sell the club for almost 11 years. There’s been a string of missteps and clumsily handled situations since, with top tens matching how often they’ve been relegated. 

Anyway, he specializes in ####### up ####ed up situations. (renaming the stadium then trying to undo that PR disaster, transferring stars when you have a top ten club, not spending nearly enough to be a top team, et al.) As a businessman, it’s quite a story - high school dropout who became the U.K. equivalent of Howard Hughes (before it got weird.) As an owner, he’s the worst.

St James Park is amazing and their fans are incredible. They’re 275 miles north of London in a dreary seaside factory town, it’s a miserable place to try and attract talent to, and their history resembles that of the Detroit Lions. But their fans are not “same ole Lions”, they’re more like Steelers fans, minus the championships. Every Geordie who has ever breathed oxygen lives and dies with the team. They honestly don’t deserve fans that good.

 
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Eephus said:
Avram Grant is the rumor du jour at NUFC but it's unclear whether he'd be manager or technical director.   He was a John Terry slip away from a Champions League title but followed that up with successive relegations at Pompey and West Ham.  To be fair though, he did well at Portsmouth in spite of financial problems.
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Doesn’t matter. Mike has to go. He has to sell this year, or they’ll burn the place down. I don’t think they can possibly stand another season with him as the owner.

But....Magpies, they won’t cancel their subscriptions and they’ll still draw 51K a match even if the twit doesn’t unload.

 
El Floppo said:
This. Fin
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Feel bad for my son. Freaking cats cradle & the silver spoon. Thankful he doesn’t like the Lions, and with a whole freaking League to choose from, he falls in love with Newcastle.

All because THIS was the first EPL game he ever watched.

#boomboomcheicktheroom

 
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Bo says it was not his first EPL, but it was the game that sold him on Premier League. At the time he was more into Bundesliga & MLS. He loves underdogs and knew he could never root for a Big Four team (guess it’s more like six these days), so by his logic, anyone who looked like a giant killer was a candidate.

He says Boom Boom Cheick Cheick the Room is still the best game he ever watched. He ran around the house screaming like he’d hit the lottery.

 
Alan Shearer

@alanshearer

A world class manager. A manager who performed so well in very difficult circumstances. A manager who understood the fans. Thanks and good luck

@rafabenitezweb

you were brilliant for the Toon. #SHAMBLES

 
BobbyLayne said:
As a businessman, it’s quite a story - high school dropout who became the U.K. equivalent of Howard Hughes (before it got weird.) As an owner, he’s the worst. 
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I think you're giving Ashley too much credit for his business acumen.  He jumped on the branded sportswear at an opportune time in the 80s and expanded massively in retail at a time where High Street was still thriving.  He bought a bunch of distressed brand names like Lonsdale, Slazenger and Everlast and sold the cheap tat in his own stores.  He's skirted UK labor laws in both his retail outlets and distribution centers.

 
Eephus said:
I think you're giving Ashley too much credit for his business acumen.  He jumped on the branded sportswear at an opportune time in the 80s and expanded massively in retail at a time where High Street was still thriving.  He bought a bunch of distressed brand names like Lonsdale, Slazenger and Everlast and sold the cheap tat in his own stores.  He's skirted UK labor laws in both his retail outlets and distribution centers.
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And you’re not watching the rocket 🚀 launch rn?

 
Eephus said:
I think you're giving Ashley too much credit for his business acumen.  He jumped on the branded sportswear at an opportune time in the 80s and expanded massively in retail at a time where High Street was still thriving.  He bought a bunch of distressed brand names like Lonsdale, Slazenger and Everlast and sold the cheap tat in his own stores.  He's skirted UK labor laws in both his retail outlets and distribution centers.
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Sounds like he gave him just the right amount of credit if he got EPL club ownership rich doing all that.

 
Eephus said:
I think you're giving Ashley too much credit for his business acumen.  He jumped on the branded sportswear at an opportune time in the 80s and expanded massively in retail at a time where High Street was still thriving.  He bought a bunch of distressed brand names like Lonsdale, Slazenger and Everlast and sold the cheap tat in his own stores.  He's skirted UK labor laws in both his retail outlets and distribution centers.
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Isn't that the American Dream?

 
El Floppo said:
Sounds like he gave him just the right amount of credit if he got EPL club ownership rich doing all that.
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Fair point but the game's gotten a lot richer since he jumped in the pool.  He doesn't have a Premier League fortune anymore although when he eventually sells, he'll have stupid money.

 
Ghana could only manage a draw in today's group game vs. Benin.  Both Ayew brothers scored.  This sets up a big second game for the Black Stars vs. the holders Cameroon.

AFCON's format this year only eliminates 8 out of the 24 teams before the knockouts so four points from three should be enough to get through.

 
Oliver Kay

@OliverKayTimes

Wan-Bissaka to Manchester United agreed. It says much about 1) his talent/potential and 2) #MUFC's awfulness in the transfer market that £45m (potentially rising to £50m) for an uncapped 21-year-old full-back looks like the best deal they've done in ages.

Essentially, United spend this kind of money on England's third choice right back ffs.  Oh, and they are paying him something like £80,000/week.  Not my money, I know, but this is the kind of business United need to do to bring in mid-tier talent.  😘

 
guru_007 said:
Oliver Kay

@OliverKayTimes

Wan-Bissaka to Manchester United agreed. It says much about 1) his talent/potential and 2) #MUFC's awfulness in the transfer market that £45m (potentially rising to £50m) for an uncapped 21-year-old full-back looks like the best deal they've done in ages.

Essentially, United spend this kind of money on England's third choice right back ffs.  Oh, and they are paying him something like £80,000/week.  Not my money, I know, but this is the kind of business United need to do to bring in mid-tier talent.  😘
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A net transfer spend of almost £500mm over the last 5 years for the results they have gotten is pretty crazy

 
guru_007 said:
Oliver Kay

@OliverKayTimes

Wan-Bissaka to Manchester United agreed. It says much about 1) his talent/potential and 2) #MUFC's awfulness in the transfer market that £45m (potentially rising to £50m) for an uncapped 21-year-old full-back looks like the best deal they've done in ages.

Essentially, United spend this kind of money on England's third choice right back ffs.  Oh, and they are paying him something like £80,000/week.  Not my money, I know, but this is the kind of business United need to do to bring in mid-tier talent.  😘
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I mean, you are not wrong... but English clubs do have to pay an English player tax ;)

 
About time

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Eben Novy-Williams‏Verified account @novy_williams

The @MLS Board of Governors has voted to lift long-standing commercial restrictions on liquor and sports betting partnerships. Both industries are now open for branding on MLS jerseys, in stadiums, etc

 
NewlyRetired said:
About time

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Eben Novy-Williams‏Verified account @novy_williams

The @MLS Board of Governors has voted to lift long-standing commercial restrictions on liquor and sports betting partnerships. Both industries are now open for branding on MLS jerseys, in stadiums, etc
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Everyone in Austin is hoping this means that our homegrown Tito’s Vodka will be the kit sponsor. Also read speculation on Reddit that my company would be the sponsor, which would be super cool, but unlikely since it would come out of my budget.

 
bentley said:
Everyone in Austin is hoping this means that our homegrown Tito’s Vodka will be the kit sponsor. Also read speculation on Reddit that my company would be the sponsor, which would be super cool, but unlikely since it would come out of my budget.
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Define "homegrown". Tito's buys their their alcohol and runs it through some branding. They don't really "make" anything. From what I have been told anyway. They are more of a filtration and branding company then a producer of a good, as I understand it. Which is fine. Just be honest about it. 

#WrongThread

 
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Sebowski said:
Define "homegrown". Tito's buys their their alcohol and runs it through some branding. They don't really "make" anything. From what I have been told anyway. They are more of a filtration and branding company then a producer of a good, as I understand it. Which is fine. Just be honest about it. 

#WrongThread
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We’ve been their workers’ comp carrier for the last 15 years and they have a giant facility in southeast Austin. They’re manufacturing something.

My wife’s cousin, who was her college roommate, dated Tito when he was making bathtub vodka and giving it away to friends for holidays. It’s a good thing that he found someone else’s recipe.

 
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guru_007 said:
Oliver Kay

@OliverKayTimes

Wan-Bissaka to Manchester United agreed. It says much about 1) his talent/potential and 2) #MUFC's awfulness in the transfer market that £45m (potentially rising to £50m) for an uncapped 21-year-old full-back looks like the best deal they've done in ages.

Essentially, United spend this kind of money on England's third choice right back ffs.  Oh, and they are paying him something like £80,000/week.  Not my money, I know, but this is the kind of business United need to do to bring in mid-tier talent.  😘
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I'm actually surprised they got him that "cheap" considering the inflation in prices, the English player "tax" and salary levels at the club currently.

 
Algeria-Senegal was one of the marquee matchups of the AFCON groups.   It's been a chippy game with 26 fouls in the first half but can only improve in the second :oldunsure:

 
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