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DJackson10
Footballguy
It really depends. Conte shunned Giovinco for coming to MLS despite the fact he deserved a call up to the national team. Some of these guys might want insurances from their national teams going to another league won't hurt their chances being called up for their country
DJackson10
Footballguy
It's a bad move by a newer club. I could see if this was in the middle of a title race but its what 1 week for the regular season?
El Floppo
Footballguy
That part is so true...and I wasn't thinking about it- just the crazy low salaries..
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
this was the entire point of my original post. With no World Cup, players in the late 20's are going to be much less likely to be concerned with losing their spot on a roster that they might not be a part of any way in the next cycle. And as such they might be more willing to try something new.
El Floppo
Footballguy
you absolutely did and made it pretty clear. I glossed over the point only thinking about the salaries... which, tbh- is data from several years ago- I can't even remember which Italian it was, but I want to say it was before Giovinco.
DJackson10
Footballguy
Putin is trying to kill his own now. He's getting desperate and thinks Roman will try and turn on him.
DJackson10
Footballguy
Desert_Power
Footballguy
Seems like this was Poland's call, but the optics don't look great when he bags another brace:
“Yesterday when (we) saw that Świderski is in the starting eleven of Charlotte FC, a real ####storm on Polish Twitter has started,” Kwiatkowski wrote in an email to The Observer. “Journalists and fans started to attack us that we (made) a big mistake not to call up Świderski. That he is perfectly fit and can play. Now we have problems with strikers and Świderski is not with us. “That’s why I decided to publish an email from Charlotte to explain that he was really injured.”
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
Unless I am not reading this correctly, I thought Poland decided to not call him because he was hurt and expected to be out for 1-2 weeks and then when he played and scored they quickly made the tweet showing the the Charlotte sent them the letter saying he was hurt.
DJackson10
Footballguy
Shocked it's not more. Most of the police force in Mexico is in with the cartels or relations to mayor and other people in offices.
DJackson10
Footballguy
After Italy beat Turkey 3-2 in Turkey today Roberto Mancini confirmed he isn't handing in a resignation. He wants to continue and start again with Italy.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
I saw an interesting stat today which highlights the weakness of pk's.
The average play that results in a pk has an expected goal of only 6%.
When the pk call is made, the 6% immediately converts into a 76% chance to score.
The average play that results in a pk has an expected goal of only 6%.
When the pk call is made, the 6% immediately converts into a 76% chance to score.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Quite the thread on Roman Abromovich.
It's borderline amazing the EPL green-lit him in the first place.
It's borderline amazing the EPL green-lit him in the first place.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
Russia continuing to spread the love
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[QuantumDom] Host of Russia's official 2022 World Cup broadcaster: "I want to say this specifically from myself, not on behalf of the channel. I wish the Polish national team the biggest fail at the World Cup, including Lewandowski. You are abominable critters."
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[QuantumDom] Host of Russia's official 2022 World Cup broadcaster: "I want to say this specifically from myself, not on behalf of the channel. I wish the Polish national team the biggest fail at the World Cup, including Lewandowski. You are abominable critters."
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
EPL brings back 5 subs for next season.
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
MLS also had it at the beginning. But I have to give props to my family’s roots as Washington Diplomats season ticket holders.
El Floppo
Footballguy
at Noon, EST... I'm pretty sure.
any time I see Greenwich Mean Time I think of preppies having tea in CT and being cruel to their staff.
B Maverick
Footballguy
Proud Dad Alert! So my daughter finally got back to scoring goals with a hattrick on Saturday to help her team come back from 3-0 down to win 4-3.
Ahole Dad Alert! So I went out on Sunday and scored a hattrick to help my team win 5-3. She is not happy with me for matching her 3 goal game! HAHAHAHAHAHA
Ahole Dad Alert! So I went out on Sunday and scored a hattrick to help my team win 5-3. She is not happy with me for matching her 3 goal game! HAHAHAHAHAHA
El Floppo
Footballguy
bigbottom
Footballguy
Okay, I know I’m the most annoying poster in this thread because I don’t contribute and just drive by every few weeks to promote Roma, but I love this video about the derby from a couple weeks ago.
B Maverick
Footballguy
ESPN reporting United are finalizing deal with Ten Hag to become manager.
United needs a lot of work and despite the money they've spent, they have also limited player movement. They need 4-5 players in and 10 or so out (including those out of contract). This team needs competition for spots, motivation to play and a direction. Any new manager needs to trust his depth and sit out of form players regardless of who they are and how much they cost. If the manager says I want these 5 players, the effing board can not say no but here are 5 alternates we will get you. And they can't spend six months negotiating. Get them into the team the moment the window opens.
United needs a lot of work and despite the money they've spent, they have also limited player movement. They need 4-5 players in and 10 or so out (including those out of contract). This team needs competition for spots, motivation to play and a direction. Any new manager needs to trust his depth and sit out of form players regardless of who they are and how much they cost. If the manager says I want these 5 players, the effing board can not say no but here are 5 alternates we will get you. And they can't spend six months negotiating. Get them into the team the moment the window opens.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
With El Trafico coming up this is a good time to enjoy highlights of the best El Trafico game if not the best regular season game of all time in MLS.
https://twitter.com/FOXSoccer/status/1512107210003734529?s=20&t=KHp6H8J8NPFzPljCRP0e3g
https://twitter.com/FOXSoccer/status/1512107210003734529?s=20&t=KHp6H8J8NPFzPljCRP0e3g
B Maverick
Footballguy
To me there is a difference between a goal scorer and a player who scores lots of goals. Most players fall in the later. Very few can be classified as a goalscorer and Zlatan is one of the best.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Flipping channels and landed on Bein - watching River Plate replay from a couple days ago. Bad challenge on River Plate defender Robert Rojas results in a broken leg after he was kicked by Alianza Lima’s Aldair Rodríguez. Don’t think the guy meant it but it was a really bad kick. Main reason I’m posting is the reaction by Bein announcers and video guys. They kept showing it and taking about. They zoomed in on the dudes leg while he’s on the stretcher and point out where his leg was broken. Very weird.
Also, ref originally gave a yellow and then when he saw that the dudes leg was broken he changed it to a red. I have zero problem with that but the announcers were saying it shouldn’t be allowed. I think it should be an allowed reversal by a ref, even if there’s no VAR.
Also, ref originally gave a yellow and then when he saw that the dudes leg was broken he changed it to a red. I have zero problem with that but the announcers were saying it shouldn’t be allowed. I think it should be an allowed reversal by a ref, even if there’s no VAR.
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CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
The Spiegel story about Manchester City is good. Some of the emails they released are pretty fascinating. https://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/sponsorship-money-paid-for-by-the-state-a-2ad5b586-1d82-4a21-8065-f3c081cd91a4
The Z Machine
Footballguy
"And Manchester once again looks set to advance to the semifinals of the Champions League – one year after losing in the final to Premier League rival FC Chelsea."
Uh, no. Still gotta not let Atleti score, which seems to be pretty easy this season, but not guaranteed.
DJackson10
Footballguy
Not sure if this has been discussed in the Soccer Thread but Ronaldo after ManU's disappointing 4-1 loss vs Everton was walking off the field and slapped a young Everton Supporters phone out of his hand onto the ground when walking off the pitch to the tunnel. The boys phone was broken and he has a pretty bruised hand. CR7 apologized and offered him a trip to a ManU match. Dude the kids an Everton supporter and you broke his phone why punish him more? I commented that the Fan should ask for a new phone and for a signed Copa America Argentina Lionel Messi Kit for the ultimate ####housery and misery of CR7.
Either way in breaking news today it was found out that the kid is on the Autism spectrum and Liverpool Police are now investigating the incident. Some already know my own struggles with Autism and frankly this kid deserved better. EPL should be suspending Ronaldo for the rest of the EPL season and a fine. No excuse for fan assaults ever. If CR7 wasn't already miserable it's about to get even worse
Either way in breaking news today it was found out that the kid is on the Autism spectrum and Liverpool Police are now investigating the incident. Some already know my own struggles with Autism and frankly this kid deserved better. EPL should be suspending Ronaldo for the rest of the EPL season and a fine. No excuse for fan assaults ever. If CR7 wasn't already miserable it's about to get even worse
B Maverick
Footballguy
Hadn't heard about the kid being on the spectrum. Very poor act by Ronaldo for sure. Not sure 7 games is a justifiable ban but I could see a game or two and a fine.
I also thought it was odd to offer him a game at Old Trafford. Thought he would be a United supporter, but if he's an Everton one, it makes no sense for the fan to accept.
And it was 1-0
DJackson10
Footballguy
B Maverick said:Hadn't heard about the kid being on the spectrum. Very poor act by Ronaldo for sure. Not sure 7 games is a justifiable ban but I could see a game or two and a fine.
I also thought it was odd to offer him a game at Old Trafford. Thought he would be a United supporter, but if he's an Everton one, it makes no sense for the fan to accept.
And it was 1-0
Yeah I forget which match it was 4-1 but I messed up there
Boy is an Everton Supporter. Also it's assault of a fan so it should be long. Zero excuses to do so.
The Z Machine
Footballguy
El Floppo
Footballguy
exactly what I was thinking when I read that.
slapped a phone out of a kid's hands- suspend rest of the season for ... "assault"?
DJackson10
Footballguy
Players don't have any right touching fans. this is more of CR7 thinking he's some immortal still and privileged and can do what he wants. Fans shouldn't attack players either but this looks like another case of CR7 acting like a baby when he doesn't get his way.
El Floppo
Footballguy
agree with all of this, even if I don't have ESP like you to know what he was thinking.
my point was that acting like a baby isn't quite "assault", let alone remotely approaching Cantona-kung-fu levels... which is the bar I think of when I think of a player "assaulting" a fan.
DJackson10
Footballguy
By definition of laws you could probably argue this was assault. Assault Is one of the easier charges to get on someone no matter what. I think the problem is how some define assault compared to others.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
I don't like this but they are obviously going to be chasing the money. Hopefully the other portions of the deal will be on more used platforms
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[John Ourand] On Apple TV getting a portion of MLS rights; "That deal [MLS] with Apple if it turns out to be accurate. It's going to come out in like the next 4 weeks or so it's going to be a good amount of money it's going to be a pretty good deal for MLS"
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[John Ourand] On Apple TV getting a portion of MLS rights; "That deal [MLS] with Apple if it turns out to be accurate. It's going to come out in like the next 4 weeks or so it's going to be a good amount of money it's going to be a pretty good deal for MLS"
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
Freddy Rincon has passed away at only 55 after not making it through a serious car crash two days ago.
He was a core member of the fabulously entertaining Colombia sides of the 90's along with Valderamma, Asprilla, Valencia, Alverez, and Mondragon
He was a core member of the fabulously entertaining Colombia sides of the 90's along with Valderamma, Asprilla, Valencia, Alverez, and Mondragon
DJackson10
Footballguy
Reports from Reuter's, Bloomberg, ESPN etc coming in that Bahrain based Firm Investcorp is on the verge of Buying Milan from Elliot. Mubadala The Soverign Fund backing the Op are an Emirati state-owned holding company that were established in 2017 and can be best labelled as a sovereign wealth fund. As per their website, the stewardship of HH Sheikh Zayed bin Sultan Al Nahyan means Mubadala is a $243billion (AED 894 billion) business that spans six continents with interests across multiple sectors and asset classes.
Who is Investcorp
$243B Saverign fund backing by Mubadala Invest CO
Bloomberg Report
Reuters
CBS Sports Soccer reporting
And ESPN in on it too
Who is Investcorp
$243B Saverign fund backing by Mubadala Invest CO
Bloomberg Report
Reuters
CBS Sports Soccer reporting
And ESPN in on it too
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
These numbers look solid to me. Depending on what the % of the player they held, it could be a fantastic deal. Nice to see so many MLS teams getting involved in the global market
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Tom Bogert
@tombogert
Fenerbahce have officially acquired on-loan Uruguay int'l winger Diego Rossi from LAFC on a permanent transfer. Club announced $6 million fee (5.5m Euros). Sources add, including loan fee, total deal is around $10m. LAFC retain sell-on %, described to me as "significant" %
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Tom Bogert
@tombogert
Fenerbahce have officially acquired on-loan Uruguay int'l winger Diego Rossi from LAFC on a permanent transfer. Club announced $6 million fee (5.5m Euros). Sources add, including loan fee, total deal is around $10m. LAFC retain sell-on %, described to me as "significant" %
El Floppo
Footballguy
El Floppo
Footballguy
I thought Fulham had clinched?
they keep losing lately, and I just saw a headline talking about their wait continuing... or maybe that's for the title only, and they've clinched promotion?
question for @titusbramble or anybody who lives in a pro/rel world... do the fans care more about winning the title or is it mostly about gaining promotion?
they keep losing lately, and I just saw a headline talking about their wait continuing... or maybe that's for the title only, and they've clinched promotion?
question for @titusbramble or anybody who lives in a pro/rel world... do the fans care more about winning the title or is it mostly about gaining promotion?
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
Technically not clinched yet. But it would take a near miracle for Fulham not to promote.
The only way they do not promote is the exact following scenario.
Fulham loses its remaining 5 games (0 points)
Nottingham Forrest wins its remaining 6 games (18 full points)
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and even if that VERY unlikely scenario does happen, they would still need a second team to jump ahead of them (Bournemouth getting 10 points from its last 6 games to pass Fulham (if Fulham gets 0 points the rest of the way) is the most likely).
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