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Pretty much set here, but waffling between the following two groups of players:

#2 QB - Matt Hasselbeck

#2 RB - Ray Rice

#1 TE - Heath Miller

#2 QB - David Garrard

#2 RB - Willie Parker

#1 TE - Kellen Winslow

I'm leaning towards the former group for this type of best ball league, even though I'd almost certainly prefer the latter group for a standard league.

 
QB - Drew Brees - NO/5 - $35

QB - Chad Pennington - MIA/6 - $12

RB - DeAngelo Williams - CAR/4 - $37

RB - Ray Rice - BAL/7 - $21

RB - Willie Parker - PIT/8 - $16

RB - Jamaal Charles - KC/8 - $7

RB - James Davis - CLE/9 - $2

RB - Justin Fargas - OAK/9 - $2

RB - Chris Brown - HOU/10 - $1

WR - Anquan Boldin - ARI/4 - $31

WR - Marques Colston - NO/5 - $28

WR - Kevin Walter - HOU/10 - $14

WR - Deon Butler - SEA/7 - $2

WR - Kenny Britt - TEN/7 - $2

WR - Brandon Stokley - DEN/7 - $2

WR - Laurent Robinson - STL/9 - $2

TE - Owen Daniels - HOU/10 - $13

TE - Jermichael Finley - GB/5 - $3

TE - Jeff King - CAR/4 - $1

PK - Ryan Longwell - MIN/9 - $3

PK - Matt Prater - DEN/7 - $2

PK - Olindo Mare - SEA/7 - $1

TD - Pittsburgh Steelers - PIT/8 - $7

TD - Minnesota Vikings - MIN/9 - $6

 
People should look at the top 20 teams from last year before you turn in your team. Pretty telling information there.
get Warner, D-Will, Slaton, and Antonio Bryant on your team?
Or the pray your $5 QB, mid-teen RB and WR and $1 and $2 RB and WR blow the hell up strategy. You can do all the prep you want, but it's going to all come down to luck.
Luck, sure. But there's a consistent trend amongst the winners in that almost all of them spent a lot of money on their WR corps.
 
People should look at the top 20 teams from last year before you turn in your team. Pretty telling information there.
get Warner, D-Will, Slaton, and Antonio Bryant on your team?
Or the pray your $5 QB, mid-teen RB and WR and $1 and $2 RB and WR blow the hell up strategy. You can do all the prep you want, but it's going to all come down to luck.
Luck, sure. But there's a consistent trend amongst the winners in that almost all of them spent a lot of money on their WR corps.
I would argue that the biggest 'value' on those rosters came from the cheap QB who blew up and the $15 and $1 RB's moreso than the 20-something WR's. Don't get me wrong a strong WR corps is essential in this sort of contest, but those $13-$17 guys, combined with a couple $1 or $2 guys like Chris Johnson, DeAngelo Williams, Slaton and Antonio Bryant who play like guys worth $30+ are the key to winning, IMO. That's where the luck comes in, in finding those bargains that pay off, whether it's due to injury or another player's ineffectiveness.
 
People should look at the top 20 teams from last year before you turn in your team. Pretty telling information there.
get Warner, D-Will, Slaton, and Antonio Bryant on your team?
Or the pray your $5 QB, mid-teen RB and WR and $1 and $2 RB and WR blow the hell up strategy. You can do all the prep you want, but it's going to all come down to luck.
Luck, sure. But there's a consistent trend amongst the winners in that almost all of them spent a lot of money on their WR corps.
I would argue that the biggest 'value' on those rosters came from the cheap QB who blew up and the $15 and $1 RB's moreso than the 20-something WR's. Don't get me wrong a strong WR corps is essential in this sort of contest, but those $13-$17 guys, combined with a couple $1 or $2 guys like Chris Johnson, DeAngelo Williams, Slaton and Antonio Bryant who play like guys worth $30+ are the key to winning, IMO. That's where the luck comes in, in finding those bargains that pay off, whether it's due to injury or another player's ineffectiveness.
Definitely. The best teams seem to all have cheaper bargain players that exploded.
 
People should look at the top 20 teams from last year before you turn in your team. Pretty telling information there.
get Warner, D-Will, Slaton, and Antonio Bryant on your team?
Or the pray your $5 QB, mid-teen RB and WR and $1 and $2 RB and WR blow the hell up strategy. You can do all the prep you want, but it's going to all come down to luck.
Luck, sure. But there's a consistent trend amongst the winners in that almost all of them spent a lot of money on their WR corps.
I would argue that the biggest 'value' on those rosters came from the cheap QB who blew up and the $15 and $1 RB's moreso than the 20-something WR's. Don't get me wrong a strong WR corps is essential in this sort of contest, but those $13-$17 guys, combined with a couple $1 or $2 guys like Chris Johnson, DeAngelo Williams, Slaton and Antonio Bryant who play like guys worth $30+ are the key to winning, IMO. That's where the luck comes in, in finding those bargains that pay off, whether it's due to injury or another player's ineffectiveness.
:goodposting: I would say the most valuable player in this contest last year last year was Antonio Bryant followed by DeAngelo Williams. Guys like Slaton and Warner were great bargains but they were obvious bargains, everybody had them. Bryant and Williams were far less widely held contest-wide but very widely held among the top 250 teams. Find those guys this year and you are golden.
 
Another thing to consider is that last year was last year and the pricing set-up has changed. Last year the consensus first-round pick type players did not have a great season overall. 3 years ago - Tomlinson was the most expensive player and yet he was on a very high proportion of teams that made the finals because he scored so much on a consistent basis. Last year the fact that so many teams had a $1 RB putting up big numbers meant that having stud RBs was a bit of a wasted place to spend money.

Same with the QB thing - the fact that Warner put up a lot of points at only $5 made some of the higher-priced QBs a waste of money.

This year I don't think there are any so obvious cheap picks. So I think "hit on a few low $$ guys" and "spend a lot of money on WRs" are useful ideas from last year - but not necessarily the way to go this year. I actually think the prices this year have made it so that studs are relatively a bargain compared to mid-tier guys in a lot of cases. Of course you can only have so many of them. I think FBG tweaked the set-up a bit to make it so that last year's formula does not necessarily equal success this year. It sounds like from Drinen that there are few heavily owned players so I think they've already been successful in that regard.

 
Finally made my first and final submission:

QB (3) $55

RB (5) $92

WR(7) $66

TE (3) $24

PK (3) $5

DEF (3) $8

I love the extra roster spots... allowing for 3 PKs & 3 DEFs. Something I've which never done before (& have paid dearly).

 
Think I'm finally done (bye week in parenthesis):

QB A Rodgers $27 (5)

QB M Stafford $11 (7)

QB B Leftwich $4 (8)

Analysis: Think A Rodgers is poised for a big year. Love his early bye week. Stafford could have a few multi-TD weeks to help out. Lefty is insurance. Though, I'm not thrilled about Stafford's matchup in Week 5 (vs. Steelers).

RB DeAngelo Williams $37 (4)

RB Kevin Smith $30 (7)

RB Willie Parker $16 (8)

RB Jaamal Charles $7 (8)

RB Chris Brown $1 (10)

Analysis: Think in a PPR league, Williams and Smith are going to be gold. D Williams will be on the winning team this year. Parker is great value here and I expect consistent, if not great, scoring. My top 3 RBs all have different bye weeks, and any one of them is capable of being my flex points for any given week. Charles and Brown will have games were they have 1-2 TDs --- Brown from short, and Charles long TDs via the short passing game. Not a lot of depth, and this squad is an injury away from an early exit.

WR M Colston $28 (5)

WR D Jackson $24 (4)

WR C Henry $12 (8)

WR D Mason $9 (7)

WR P Harvin $5 (9)

WR C Schilens $3 (9)

WR L Robinson $2 (9)

WR K Britt $2 (7)

Analysis: Love my top three guys, and tried to find good value at the bottom of the barrel with guys who might not be very consistent, but any one of whom could bust out for a big game on any given week. Henry will be on nearly every roster. For good reason. Mason is one of the lowest priced WR#1 on the board. No overlapping bye weeks for my top 4 WRs.

TE Owen Daniels $13 (10)

TE T Heap $5 (7)

TE J Finley $3 (5)

Analysis: Wanted a good second tier TE, and think Daniels is at the top of that tier. Heap, I think, will be a nice value if he stays healthy. Finley will be on almost every single roster, too. For good reason. No overlap on the bye weeks, and I expect Finley to be the solid starter by Daniels' Wk 10 bye. Would have liked two top TEs, but didn't want to sacrifice a RB or WR to do it.

K Matt Prater $2 (7)

K Nick Folk $3 (6)

k S Janikowski $1 (9)

Analysis: Wanted three kickers with different bye weeks. Check. Wanted guys capable of hitting from 50+ for the bonus points. Check. Wanted at least one guy on a high scoring offense for consistent points (Folk). Check.

D Packers $3 (5)

D Texans $2 (10)

Analysis: The pack has play makers all over the field on D, and I expect a huge season from them. Think a lot of teams will be playing from behind the pack, and throwing a bunch to try to catch up. The Texans are a homer pick with a different bye week. Might drop one of my low WRs or Lefty to pick up an additional D before the final deadline.

 
anyone have a link to the site that keep the live scores last year.

it wasnt FBG though.
http://thefantasystar.com/fbg.php
I'll be doing this again this year.
:clap: You're the best, OC.

Is there anything to do to get started? IIRC, we had to enter our teams laste year.

Can you give the 30 second, elevator-version of how this will work & what contestants need to do prior to week 1?

 
After approximately 4.2 million changes:

QB: 2 - $33

RB: 6 - $84

WR: 8 - $102

TE: 3 - $25

K: 2 - $2

D: 3 - $4

Last year, I made it into the final rounds, this year is a bit of different strategy going with only 2 qbs and more higher priced RBs/WRs. kept the same strategy with the cheap defenses and kickers though.

Can't wait for this thing to be locked, so I can do something other than come up with different combos.

biggest decision remaining is whether to go with Kevin Smith or Q Boldin for pretty much the last spot.

 
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Barry Jive and The Uptown Five said:
anyone have a link to the site that keep the live scores last year.

it wasnt FBG though.
http://thefantasystar.com/fbg.php
I'll be doing this again this year.
:( You're the best, OC.

Is there anything to do to get started? IIRC, we had to enter our teams laste year.

Can you give the 30 second, elevator-version of how this will work & what contestants need to do prior to week 1?
Looks like OC should have the contest live team scoring up and running this weekend (poking around his site). However, unless OC has undertaken some work in the past couple of weeks, the live cut predictor may not be working in the first week. In the past, that has been my job, and I haven't had time to work on the full database scoring generator yet. With the new roster rules, things may be a bit more complicated than in the past. I'll do what I can, but things may have to wait until week 2 for that part...
 
Barry Jive and The Uptown Five said:
anyone have a link to the site that keep the live scores last year.

it wasnt FBG though.
http://thefantasystar.com/fbg.php
I'll be doing this again this year.
:doh: You're the best, OC.

Is there anything to do to get started? IIRC, we had to enter our teams laste year.

Can you give the 30 second, elevator-version of how this will work & what contestants need to do prior to week 1?
Looks like OC should have the contest live team scoring up and running this weekend (poking around his site). However, unless OC has undertaken some work in the past couple of weeks, the live cut predictor may not be working in the first week. In the past, that has been my job, and I haven't had time to work on the full database scoring generator yet. With the new roster rules, things may be a bit more complicated than in the past. I'll do what I can, but things may have to wait until week 2 for that part...
with the variable rosters I would guess that this year might be a hassle
 
Okay here's my team:

QB-S Rosenfels Min 13

QB-L McCown Jax 8

QB-K Clemens Jets 5

QB-A Smith SF 4

$30

RB-J Lewis Clev 17

RB-E Graham TB 13

RB-R Mendenhall Pitt 10

RB-W McGahee Balt 7

RB-K Jones Chic 3

$50

WR-T Owens 30

WR-M Crabtree SF 9

WR-J Urban ARI 2

WR-J Iglesias CHI 2

$43

TE-J Witten Dal 27

TE-A Gates SD 24

TE-T Gonzalez ATL 22

TE-D Clark IND 18

TE-B Miller NO 2

$93

Can't be too strong at this position.

PK-S Gostkowski NE 5

PK-G Hartley NO 4

$9

DEF-Pittsburgh 7

DEF-Balimore 6

DEF-Giants 6

DEF-Minnesota 6

$25

So there you go. :coffee:

-QG

 
Here it is my final roster. I think I've changed it 100 times, we really need a tally next year.

24 players @ $250

This is all about quantity over quality, if the contest allowed 30 roster spots, I'd have 30.

No real bye week concerns at any position, except week 5, when Rodgers, Tomlinson, Colson and Packers D are all on a bye.

QB - Aaron Rodgers - GB/5 - $27

QB - David Garrard - JAX/7 - $18

QB - Matt Leinart - ARI/4 - $4

3@$49 Rodgers seems to be a trendy pick. Garrard seems like decent value.

Chose Leinart at $4, over Leftwich. I'd rather swing for the fences, then have a saftey net.

RB - LaDainian Tomlinson - SD/5 - $40

RB - Ray Rice - BAL/7 - $21

RB - Chris Wells - ARI/4 - $15

RB - Leon Washington - NYJ/9 - $12

RB - Chris Brown - HOU/10 - $1

5@$89 Tomlinson and Rice should be dependable starters. The other three should have pretty good weeks now and again.

WR - Marques Colston - NO/5 - $28

WR - Chris Henry - CIN/8 - $12

WR - Earl Bennett - CHI/5 - $11

WR - Michael Jenkins - ATL/4 - $8

WR - Nate Burleson - SEA/7 - $5

WR - Percy Harvin - MIN/9 - $5

WR - Jeremy Maclin - PHI/4 - $4

WR - Hakeem Nicks - NYG/10 - $4

WR - Chaz Schilens - OAK/9 - $3

9@$80 Quantity over Quality. Plan on counting Colston every week. Should be able to find two starters each week from the other 8

TE - Owen Daniels - HOU/10 - $13

TE - Martellus Bennett - DAL/6 - $4

TE - Jermichael Finley - GB/5 - $3

3@$20 Went with Daniels and Finley, as the trendy picks. Bennett should be worth the $4.

PK - Jason Elam - ATL/4 - $3

PK - Nick Folk - DAL/6 - $3

2@$6 Wanted kickers with early byes, who play in good weather. Not rocket science.

TD - Green Bay Packers - GB/5 - $3

TD - Dallas Cowboys - DAL/6 - $3

2@$6 Since I only have two defenses, I wanted them both to have early byes.

 
Okay here's my team:QB-S Rosenfels Min 13QB-L McCown Jax 8QB-K Clemens Jets 5QB-A Smith SF 4$30RB-J Lewis Clev 17RB-E Graham TB 13RB-R Mendenhall Pitt 10RB-W McGahee Balt 7RB-K Jones Chic 3$50WR-T Owens 30WR-M Crabtree SF 9WR-J Urban ARI 2WR-J Iglesias CHI 2$43TE-J Witten Dal 27TE-A Gates SD 24TE-T Gonzalez ATL 22TE-D Clark IND 18TE-B Miller NO 2$93Can't be too strong at this position.PK-S Gostkowski NE 5PK-G Hartley NO 4$9DEF-Pittsburgh 7DEF-Balimore 6DEF-Giants 6DEF-Minnesota 6$25So there you go. :goodposting: -QG
Winner, Winner, chicken dinner....unless a certain entrant takes advantage of the new roster limits by submitting a 14 kicker team.
 
Okay here's my team:QB-S Rosenfels Min 13QB-L McCown Jax 8QB-K Clemens Jets 5QB-A Smith SF 4$30RB-J Lewis Clev 17RB-E Graham TB 13RB-R Mendenhall Pitt 10RB-W McGahee Balt 7RB-K Jones Chic 3$50WR-T Owens 30WR-M Crabtree SF 9WR-J Urban ARI 2WR-J Iglesias CHI 2$43TE-J Witten Dal 27TE-A Gates SD 24TE-T Gonzalez ATL 22TE-D Clark IND 18TE-B Miller NO 2$93Can't be too strong at this position.PK-S Gostkowski NE 5PK-G Hartley NO 4$9DEF-Pittsburgh 7DEF-Balimore 6DEF-Giants 6DEF-Minnesota 6$25So there you go. :lol: -QG
Winner, Winner, chicken dinner....unless a certain entrant takes advantage of the new roster limits by submitting a 14 kicker team.
:( now somebody might steal my lineup just to split the prize moneyThough I heard rumors of a 16-kicker guy with the new roster limits. 14-kicker guy I can handle :boxing: but if there'a SIXTEEN kicker guy?!? :excited: -QG
 
Hmm. I have my lineup set the way that I want, but I've got an inordinate amount of my top players on bye the same week. Do I just hope to get lucky that week with backups in hopes of being stronger every other week, or roll with a "lesser" lineup with the idea I spread the byes out?

 
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Hmm. I have my lineup set the way that I want, but I've got an inordinate amount of my top players on bye the same week. Do I just hope to get lucky that week with backups in hopes of being stronger every other week, or roll with a "lesser" lineup with the idea I spread the byes out?
With a contest like this, you have to swing for the fences and hope that you survive. Luck has a lot to do with this, but if you set yourself up well, you should be fine. My team is pedal to the metal! Either I win big or go home big.
 
Okay here's my team:QB-S Rosenfels Min 13QB-L McCown Jax 8QB-K Clemens Jets 5QB-A Smith SF 4$30RB-J Lewis Clev 17RB-E Graham TB 13RB-R Mendenhall Pitt 10RB-W McGahee Balt 7RB-K Jones Chic 3$50WR-T Owens 30WR-M Crabtree SF 9WR-J Urban ARI 2WR-J Iglesias CHI 2$43TE-J Witten Dal 27TE-A Gates SD 24TE-T Gonzalez ATL 22TE-D Clark IND 18TE-B Miller NO 2$93Can't be too strong at this position.PK-S Gostkowski NE 5PK-G Hartley NO 4$9DEF-Pittsburgh 7DEF-Balimore 6DEF-Giants 6DEF-Minnesota 6$25So there you go. :whistle: -QG
Winner, Winner, chicken dinner....unless a certain entrant takes advantage of the new roster limits by submitting a 14 kicker team.
:lol: now somebody might steal my lineup just to split the prize money-QG
This is why I'm perplexed as to why people post their rosters ahead of the deadline.:headexplode:
 
24 players @ $250This is all about quantity over quality, if the contest allowed 30 roster spots, I'd have 30.
Im pretty interested in seeing the hard numbers once the cuts start to happen. Based on the replies in this thread, there seem to be plenty of people on either side of this issue.
 
I've though about it and something seemed amiss with that first lineup I posted. This one seems much better as I think this will cover all the bases.

QB M Schaub - 20

QB E Manning - 16

Total $36

RB S Slaton - 37

RB B Jacobs - 32

RB A Bradshaw - 8

RB C Brown - 1

Total $77

WR is important so I plan to have lots of those

WR A Johnson - 43

WR D Hixon - 21

WR K Walter - 14

WR S Smith - 12

WR H Nicks - 4

WR A Davis - 2

WR J Jones - 2

WR M Manningham - 2

Total $100

TE O Daniels - 13

TE K Boss - 6

Total $19

PK K Brown - 3

PK L Tynes - 3

Total $6

DEF Giants - 6

DEF Texans - 2

Total $8

And I even got $4 left over! :boxing:

-QG

 
all i know is that i can hardly wait for this thing to close because i am tired of adjusting my lineup...

 
24 players @ $250This is all about quantity over quality, if the contest allowed 30 roster spots, I'd have 30.
Im pretty interested in seeing the hard numbers once the cuts start to happen. Based on the replies in this thread, there seem to be plenty of people on either side of this issue.
Considering I think there are some good players at $1 and $2, I am not really sacrificing quality to get the quantity. I have 12 players on my rooster who are $1, $2 or $3. I bet 10 of those will contribute.
 
24 players @ $250This is all about quantity over quality, if the contest allowed 30 roster spots, I'd have 30.
Im pretty interested in seeing the hard numbers once the cuts start to happen. Based on the replies in this thread, there seem to be plenty of people on either side of this issue.
The question is, how much extra value are you getting for the extra dollars you're spending on the players in your 20-player roster? Take an example; let's say you use your extra 4 slots for two $1 players and two $2 players; that means the 20-person roster has $6 more to spend on studs. Let's throw that into one RB and one WR. $3 is the difference between Brandon Jacobs and Ronnie Brown, or between Hines Ward and Santana Moss. The 24-player roster gets Jacobs/E.James/T.Choice and Housh/J.Cribbs/D.Clowney. The question is whether E.James+T.Choice+J.Cribbs+D.Clowney will score more in your lineup than the difference between Jacobs/Ward and Brown/Moss.My view on it is, the difference between Jacobs/Ward and Brown/S.Moss is fairly small; in fact, I think Jacobs/Ward have a relatively high probability of outscoring Brown/S.Moss on their own. With the additional chances you get of the cheap players scoring a TD and saving your butt in a bye week, or pulling an Antonio Bryant and providing good production all year, I think the 24-player strategy works better.The other option is to pour all $6 into one player, and upgrade from Steve Smith to Larry Fitzgerald. Then you have Jacobs+S.Smith+E.James+T.Choice+J.Cribbs+D.Clowney against Jacobs+Fitzgerald. Again, to me the difference between Smith and Fitzgerald isn't large enough to be worth giving up those four scoring opportunities.
 
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24 players @ $250This is all about quantity over quality, if the contest allowed 30 roster spots, I'd have 30.
Im pretty interested in seeing the hard numbers once the cuts start to happen. Based on the replies in this thread, there seem to be plenty of people on either side of this issue.
The question is, how much extra value are you getting for the extra dollars you're spending on the players in your 20-player roster? Take an example; let's say you use your extra 4 slots for two $1 players and two $2 players; that means the 20-person roster has $6 more to spend on studs. Let's throw that into one RB and one WR. $3 is the difference between Brandon Jacobs and Ronnie Brown, or between Hines Ward and Santana Moss. The 24-player roster gets Jacobs/E.James/T.Choice and Housh/J.Cribbs/D.Clowney. The question is whether E.James+T.Choice+J.Cribbs+D.Clowney will score more in your lineup than the difference between Jacobs/Ward and Brown/Moss.My view on it is, the difference between Jacobs/Ward and Brown/S.Moss is fairly small; in fact, I think Jacobs/Ward have a relatively high probability of outscoring Brown/S.Moss on their own. With the additional chances you get of the cheap players scoring a TD and saving your butt in a bye week, or pulling an Antonio Bryant and providing good production all year, I think the 24-player strategy works better.The other option is to pour all $6 into one player, and upgrade from Steve Smith to Larry Fitzgerald. Then you have Jacobs+S.Smith+E.James+T.Choice+J.Cribbs+D.Clowney against Jacobs+Fitzgerald. Again, to me the difference between Smith and Fitzgerald isn't large enough to be worth giving up those four scoring opportunities.
Youd prefer to hold a number of $1 lottery tickets. Others might want to use those dollars to go from Ochocinco to Colston, or Colston to Boldin, or Boldin to Jennings, or Jennings to White. Having that $1 player might save you butt one week, but so might that $1-$2 "upgrade".Thats part of the beauty of this contest: you get to pick the players and strategies you think give you the best chance to win.
 
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Now that I believe I have finished "fine tuning" my roster, I can join the posting comments....

QB: 3 at $49

RB: 6 at $89

WR: 5 at $84

TE: 3 at $14

PK: 2 at $4

DEF: 3 at $10

Realizing everybody will pick some of the "common" cheap treats, there have to be some unexpected surprises to make a roster stand out. I don't know if my roster is it, but I tried!!

 
Youd prefer to hold a number of $1 lottery tickets. Others might want to use those dollars to go from Ochocinco to Colston, or Colston to Boldin, or Boldin to Jennings, or Jennings to White. Having that $1 player might save you butt one week, but so might that $1-$2 "upgrade".Thats part of the beauty of this contest: you get to pick the players and strategies you think give you the best chance to win.
Frankly, Ochocinco->Colston->Boldin->Jennings->White looks like a tier to me. It's not like $6 is going to jump you to a different tier.
 
core of

QB-Brady

RB-Peterson

RB-Forte

WR-Colston

TE-Clark

I wouldn't be surprised some weeks they carry the cut total themselves...

throw in 3 PKs and D's to increase chances of one of each have average+ pts...

then throw in the typical cheap guys that everyone else will have anyhow...

it will be interesting to see how it rolls

 
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Youd prefer to hold a number of $1 lottery tickets. Others might want to use those dollars to go from Ochocinco to Colston, or Colston to Boldin, or Boldin to Jennings, or Jennings to White. Having that $1 player might save you butt one week, but so might that $1-$2 "upgrade".Thats part of the beauty of this contest: you get to pick the players and strategies you think give you the best chance to win.
Frankly, Ochocinco->Colston->Boldin->Jennings->White looks like a tier to me. It's not like $6 is going to jump you to a different tier.
Really? Going from Holt to Colston or from Gonzalez to Jennings isn't changing tiers? From Heath Miller to Olsen isn't changing tiers? Those are some might big tiers you have.
 
QB - Tom Brady - NE/8 - $37

QB - Eli Manning - NYG/10 - $16

RB - Ryan Grant - GB/5 - $24

RB - Willie Parker - PIT/8 - $16

RB - Chester Taylor - MIN/9 - $11

RB - Kevin Faulk - NE/8 - $8

RB - Chris Brown - HOU/10 - $1

WR - Larry Fitzgerald - ARI/4 - $44

WR - Donald Driver - GB/5 - $21

WR - Derrick Mason - BAL/7 - $9

WR - Justin Gage - TEN/7 - $8

WR - Sidney Rice - MIN/9 - $4

WR - Josh Cribbs - CLE/9 - $1

TE - Jason Witten - DAL/6 - $27

TE - Chris Baker - NE/8 - $1

PK - David Akers - PHI/4 - $4

PK - Jeff Reed - PIT/8 - $2

PK - Olindo Mare - SEA/7 - $1

PK - Dan Carpenter - MIA/6 - $1

TD - Pittsburgh Steelers - PIT/8 - $7

TD - New York Giants - NYG/10 - $6

TD - New Orleans Saints - NO/5 - $1

 
3 QB, $40

5 RB, $73

6 WR, $110

3 TE, $19

2 PK, $3

2 TD, $5

21 players, $250

I can't wait to see what 14 kicker guy does this year. :confused:

 
Really? Going from Holt to Colston or from Gonzalez to Jennings isn't changing tiers? From Heath Miller to Olsen isn't changing tiers? Those are some might big tiers you have.
You get into player evaluation stuff here; personally, I think Holt is overpriced, and so is Gonzalez. I don't think Jennings is a different tier than Ochocinco, who's $5 cheaper, or Colston, who's $4 cheaper.
 
Youd prefer to hold a number of $1 lottery tickets. Others might want to use those dollars to go from Ochocinco to Colston, or Colston to Boldin, or Boldin to Jennings, or Jennings to White. Having that $1 player might save you butt one week, but so might that $1-$2 "upgrade".Thats part of the beauty of this contest: you get to pick the players and strategies you think give you the best chance to win.
Frankly, Ochocinco->Colston->Boldin->Jennings->White looks like a tier to me. It's not like $6 is going to jump you to a different tier.
Frankly, Im not sure you got my point.Youre arguing that a $1-$2 player can push you over the cut line in any given week. Im simply pointing out that a $1-$2 "upgrade" can do the same.
 
I don't have the balls to pay $50 for All Day, myself, so big ups to you that have. Two of the $25 dollar options seemed to me to be better value, which made me a little sad.

:rolleyes:

 
Youd prefer to hold a number of $1 lottery tickets. Others might want to use those dollars to go from Ochocinco to Colston, or Colston to Boldin, or Boldin to Jennings, or Jennings to White. Having that $1 player might save you butt one week, but so might that $1-$2 "upgrade".

Thats part of the beauty of this contest: you get to pick the players and strategies you think give you the best chance to win.
Frankly, Ochocinco->Colston->Boldin->Jennings->White looks like a tier to me. It's not like $6 is going to jump you to a different tier.
Frankly, Im not sure you got my point.Youre arguing that a $1-$2 player can push you over the cut line in any given week. Im simply pointing out that a $1-$2 "upgrade" can do the same.
Maybe, it will, and maybe it won't. Maybe Barber ($33) will outperform Jacobs ($32), and maybe he won't--are their prospects really that different? I guarantee that E.James ($1) will outperform an empty slot.
 
Youd prefer to hold a number of $1 lottery tickets. Others might want to use those dollars to go from Ochocinco to Colston, or Colston to Boldin, or Boldin to Jennings, or Jennings to White. Having that $1 player might save you butt one week, but so might that $1-$2 "upgrade".

Thats part of the beauty of this contest: you get to pick the players and strategies you think give you the best chance to win.
Frankly, Ochocinco->Colston->Boldin->Jennings->White looks like a tier to me. It's not like $6 is going to jump you to a different tier.
Frankly, Im not sure you got my point.Youre arguing that a $1-$2 player can push you over the cut line in any given week. Im simply pointing out that a $1-$2 "upgrade" can do the same.
Maybe, it will, and maybe it won't. Maybe Barber ($33) will outperform Jacobs ($32), and maybe he won't--are their prospects really that different? I guarantee that E.James ($1) will outperform an empty slot.
Outperforming an empty slot doesn't help. He needs to outperform the better players on the team to have any value. Want to guarantee he'll outperform Williams, Grant or FWP?
 
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OK, I'm in.

2 QB's, $37

5 RB's, $96

5 WR's, $101

2 TE's, $8

2 PK's, $2

4 D's, $6

20 players, $250

(and I can't believe I picked that lineup. Whee!)

Val

 
Youd prefer to hold a number of $1 lottery tickets. Others might want to use those dollars to go from Ochocinco to Colston, or Colston to Boldin, or Boldin to Jennings, or Jennings to White. Having that $1 player might save you butt one week, but so might that $1-$2 "upgrade".

Thats part of the beauty of this contest: you get to pick the players and strategies you think give you the best chance to win.
Frankly, Ochocinco->Colston->Boldin->Jennings->White looks like a tier to me. It's not like $6 is going to jump you to a different tier.
Frankly, Im not sure you got my point.Youre arguing that a $1-$2 player can push you over the cut line in any given week. Im simply pointing out that a $1-$2 "upgrade" can do the same.
Maybe, it will, and maybe it won't. Maybe Barber ($33) will outperform Jacobs ($32), and maybe he won't--are their prospects really that different? I guarantee that E.James ($1) will outperform an empty slot.
Really? You dont think there is one legitimate combination of players that would prevent James from cracking a starting lineup in this contest? Not one?Last year,

$1 got you Slaton.

$2 got you Bryant.

$6 replaced Ricky Williams with Chris Johnson.

The best teams will be a combination of low-dollar lottery tickets and low-dollar "upgrades".

 
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I think I made my last change....going for quality over quantity in this one...we will see...

OUT

D Heyward-Bey OAK - 2

M Manningham NYG - 2

IN

H Nicks NYG - 4

 
Youd prefer to hold a number of $1 lottery tickets. Others might want to use those dollars to go from Ochocinco to Colston, or Colston to Boldin, or Boldin to Jennings, or Jennings to White. Having that $1 player might save you butt one week, but so might that $1-$2 "upgrade".

Thats part of the beauty of this contest: you get to pick the players and strategies you think give you the best chance to win.
Frankly, Ochocinco->Colston->Boldin->Jennings->White looks like a tier to me. It's not like $6 is going to jump you to a different tier.
Frankly, Im not sure you got my point.Youre arguing that a $1-$2 player can push you over the cut line in any given week. Im simply pointing out that a $1-$2 "upgrade" can do the same.
Maybe, it will, and maybe it won't. Maybe Barber ($33) will outperform Jacobs ($32), and maybe he won't--are their prospects really that different? I guarantee that E.James ($1) will outperform an empty slot.
Really? You dont think there is one legitimate combination of players that would prevent James from cracking a starting lineup in this contest? Not one?Last year,

$1 got you Slaton.

$2 got you Bryant.

$6 replaced Ricky Williams with Chris Johnson.

The best teams will be a combination of low-dollar lottery tickets and low-dollar "upgrades".
and frankly, it's not even that you picked the best $2 player, it's that your $2 player had a big week when you needed it. As an example, if you had Greg Jennings last year, you would have been better off if you had Josh Cribbs to replace him than TO. (maybe a stretch as you need 3 WRs, but the point remains)
 
and frankly, it's not even that you picked the best $2 player, it's that your $2 player had a big week when you needed it. As an example, if you had Greg Jennings last year, you would have been better off if you had Josh Cribbs to replace him than TO. (maybe a stretch as you need 3 WRs, but the point remains)
:mellow: I think that is the biggest thing people miss out on when you decide to take 20 players over 24 players. No one can predict when a player will burst out so in a best ball format like this, you just have to have them to get their points. That is the whole arguement behind quality vs. quantity. I'll take quantity all day, everyday! There are plenty of low priced guys out there that will put up points every week (starters in fact). Why not load up on them and roll the dice?
 
last tweek before I hit the hay

QB - Matt Schaub - HOU/10 - $20

QB - Matt Hasselbeck - SEA/7 - $17

RB - DeAngelo Williams - CAR/4 - $37

RB - Willie Parker - PIT/8 - $16

RB - Felix Jones - DAL/6 - $11

RB - Ahmad Bradshaw - NYG/10 - $8

RB - Michael Bush - OAK/9 - $6

RB - James Davis - CLE/9 - $2

WR - Marques Colston - NO/5 - $28

WR - Donald Driver - GB/5 - $21

WR - Steve Smith - NYG/10 - $12

WR - Chris Henry - CIN/8 - $12

WR - Derrick Mason - BAL/7 - $9

WR - Isaac Bruce - SF/6 - $5

WR - Percy Harvin - MIN/9 - $5

WR - Laurent Robinson - STL/9 - $2

TE - Dallas Clark - IND/6 - $18

TE - John Carlson - SEA/7 - $11

TE - Jermichael Finley - GB/5 - $3

PK - Josh Brown - STL/9 - $1

PK - Steve Hauschka - BAL/7 - $1

TD - Dallas Cowboys - DAL/6 - $3

TD - Seattle Seahawks - SEA/7 - $2

 

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