NorvilleBarnes
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LMAOWe don't care about your props.
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***Official Super Bowl XLII Game Thread*** (3 Viewers)
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CrossEyed
Footballguy
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Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Interestingly, the Patriots attempted 53 passes, while running the ball only 16 times. Other coaches get crucified following losses when their pass-to-run ratio is that lopsided. Will Belichick?
CrossEyed
Footballguy
Of course not. He's a genius.
NorvilleBarnes
Footballguy
Great great game tonight. I still can't believe it. I had resigned myself to rooting for the Giants and was just hoping they wouldn't get stomped.
Not the best SB ever, but up there with some great upsets like the Broncos win in 98 over the defending champs Green Bay, and even the first Patriots win over what seemed to be at that time the unstoppable Rams.
Not the best SB ever, but up there with some great upsets like the Broncos win in 98 over the defending champs Green Bay, and even the first Patriots win over what seemed to be at that time the unstoppable Rams.
Judge Smails
Footballguy
I have never rooted so hard for a team I had no emotional interest in in my life. I made a little money on the game (Giants + 12 1/2 and the money line) but it wasn't about the money. As much as I respected the Patriots talent, I wanted to see them lose. More than anything. I wanted to see them get close and then have the perfect season snatched away. I respect their accomplishments, but I dunno, it seems everything started coming out. All the 4th and 3's where instead of saying it was "the percentage play" to go for it when they were up 40 against the Redskins they now punt. The arrogance of the team and, yes, the fans, were unprecedented in history. And it all came crashing down. So beautiful.
You are definitely not alone.
shining path
:prettyplease:
The ESPN post game show with Stu Scott, Emmitt, Salisbury, and Keyshawn is just brutal. Who the hell looked at that lineup and said "yep, this'll work"?
Big Dumb Ape
Footballguy
You're pretty unbearable in this thread. You're not even a fan of the team. Let it go.
BaBastage
Footballguy
My $.02 on the whole Patriots-fans-class thing:
For the most part, I think most of the "unclassy" fans where the fairweather tools that quit frequenting the site after their fantasy season was over.
Aside from a few, I have no complaints over the past few weeks.
Kudo's to the Giants; they played a great game.
And the Pats players were 100% classy (at least, all that I saw) in their postgame interviews and paid their respects to the Giants.
I'm happy with the outcome, but I did feel a twinge of sorry for Tom Brady himself. Sort of reminded me of when Jerry Rice blew out his knee years ago. He just sat there, as if in disbelief. I bet Tom truly believed he'd pull this game out, even on the last throw.
For the most part, I think most of the "unclassy" fans where the fairweather tools that quit frequenting the site after their fantasy season was over.
Aside from a few, I have no complaints over the past few weeks.
Kudo's to the Giants; they played a great game.
And the Pats players were 100% classy (at least, all that I saw) in their postgame interviews and paid their respects to the Giants.
I'm happy with the outcome, but I did feel a twinge of sorry for Tom Brady himself. Sort of reminded me of when Jerry Rice blew out his knee years ago. He just sat there, as if in disbelief. I bet Tom truly believed he'd pull this game out, even on the last throw.
NY/NJMFDIVER
Footballguy
I bailed on this thread in the 2nd quarter, to keep with a ritual I've done through the first 3 playoff games. Been watching one half at home, second half at my buddy's place, so I had to keep with that tradition, but one scenario came up that I don't know if was mentioned, haven't read back through this one yet.
We were talking on the Pats 2nd to last drive(TD drive) about Brady laughing at the Giants holding them to 17 when they had scored 7 with 3 minutes left. I was worried about Moss and the jump ball pass in the end zone, knowing none of the Giants corners could compete with that, and I wondered if the Jints might just throw Plax in for one play on that 3rd down to neutrualize the leap. My buddy reminded that the second part of Brady's laugh was about Plax playing defense.
Wouldn't THAT have been something if the game came down to that!
Please pardon the drunken posts of victory!
We were talking on the Pats 2nd to last drive(TD drive) about Brady laughing at the Giants holding them to 17 when they had scored 7 with 3 minutes left. I was worried about Moss and the jump ball pass in the end zone, knowing none of the Giants corners could compete with that, and I wondered if the Jints might just throw Plax in for one play on that 3rd down to neutrualize the leap. My buddy reminded that the second part of Brady's laugh was about Plax playing defense.
Wouldn't THAT have been something if the game came down to that!
Please pardon the drunken posts of victory!
Chadstroma
Footballguy
CrossEyed said:
They stuck to throwing a RB to pass protect once in a while as they did all year long. The D line of the Giants put pressure on Brady and Brady has a long history of struggling when you get him on the ground a few times (as most QB's tend to). It worked all season long but not tonight. They hoped the screens would slow the rush and that was the only thing they did to try to keep the Giant D from domination. They should have ran a bit more and kept more guys in on pass protection.. it would not take too long for Welker or Moss to get open even if they are both doubled. The Giant D line over matched an under rated Pat O line. The Giants very well could have had at least 9 more points on the board if not for a list of shoulda, coulda, woulda's like you listed. The Giants BEAT the Pat's.
NY/NJMFDIVER
Footballguy
What was up with Seau in his stupid hat with a voice like Jack Klugman being interviewed postgame?
NY/NJMFDIVER
Footballguy
He was making up for those missing 4 seconds the Rams didn't get in that Bowl. Who wants to kick to Hakim and Holt?Sinrman said:
NY/NJMFDIVER
Footballguy
Joe, the Post had an article on him early this week, apparently his leg is fairly FUBAR'ed, and his doctors didn't want him to travel, never mind be on the sideline where he wouldn't be mobile enough to move in the event of an injury. Apparently Kiwanuka had pretty much the same injury in October and only very recently resumed walking and had clearance to be on the sidelines.Joe Bryant said:
I"ve bashed Shock quite a bit, and certainly the appearance of him with drinks in front of him while his teammates are playing wasn't necessarily the best image, but I can't take him too much to task for not being on the sidelines based on reports that I've heard.
videoguy505
Footballguy
Players on IR can't be on the sidelines apparently by league rule.
Just noticed the Pats only had 10 men on the field for the final kneel-down. Possibly the only SB in history with a 12-men on the field penalty and also a play run with only 10.
Just noticed the Pats only had 10 men on the field for the final kneel-down. Possibly the only SB in history with a 12-men on the field penalty and also a play run with only 10.
rabidfireweasel
Footballguy
This is true. I am a die hard NE fan, but NE didn't choke the game away. The Giants simply took the game and won it.CrossEyed said:
wharf rat
Footballguy
The better team won. PERIOD.
Mik789fl
Footballguy
Oh we will,we most certainly will.Great win Giant fans for you and your favorite team. You are the World Champs. Soak it up and love every minute of it.
SeniorVBDStudent
Footballguy
Congrats Giants fans.
I'm happy for Coughlin and Strahan.
My two observations were:
1. Brady did not perform well under creative pressure.
2. This was an incredible football game; an epic battle.
I'm happy for Coughlin and Strahan.
My two observations were:
1. Brady did not perform well under creative pressure.
2. This was an incredible football game; an epic battle.
Steeler
Footballguy
First post in the thread; didn't read anything else;
What a great game to watch.
Giants outplayed the Pats and were the better team yesterday.
I was rooting for the Giants as much as anyone; but I really have to commend the Pats players for being classy in defeat. I haven't heard any of them say anything other than they got outplayed, or the other team made more plays, or whatever. Props to them
What a great game to watch.
Giants outplayed the Pats and were the better team yesterday.
I was rooting for the Giants as much as anyone; but I really have to commend the Pats players for being classy in defeat. I haven't heard any of them say anything other than they got outplayed, or the other team made more plays, or whatever. Props to them
Absolutley not. Same way he won't get crucified for forgoing the FG on 4th and 13.He faces a different level of scrutiny from the media. Why? Because he's earned it by being without question the best coach in the league for the last several years. That's how it works.JGhost Rider said:
ceo3west
Footballguy
Nevertheless, he made the wrong choice in not going for the field goal, and that's not hindsight - I said it right before they went for it as did everyone else I was with. I don't know if it was arrogance, but it was apparent from the get go that this was going to be a tight defensive game, and BB of all people should know that points are at a premium in games like that.
Agree for sure. Terrible decision.I was just answering the guys questiona about whether he'd get killed over it. When you've got a track record of being way better than everyone else, you get some slack.But it was a terrible decision. If Coughlin had done it and the Giants had lost, they'd be yelling to fire him today.J
Redwes25
Footballguy
That was amazing game by the giants and a great run to win it all. The 86 team has always been my favorite Giants team but I think that changed last night. The way that defense played was classic Giants football.
Just amazing to watch that D line gut arguably the three best offensive lines in three straight games (Dallas, Pack and Patriots). Simply Awesome
Just amazing to watch that D line gut arguably the three best offensive lines in three straight games (Dallas, Pack and Patriots). Simply Awesome
aardball44
Footballguy
Well, duh! He'll be dead in 100 years.Native said:
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aardball44
Footballguy
Welker was an absolute stud throughout the season and the game. I won't forget.Having said that, how about some love for Amani Toomer and the tough catches he made to keep some of those earlier drives alive?HellToupee said:
He always wears a hat now because the roids grew his dome.
CrossEyed
Footballguy
Oh, but you're wrong. Until September I'm a HUGE Giants fan.Nothing against the fans of NE. I just really can't stand Bill Belechick.Big Dumb Ape said:
And watching Rodney Harrison chasing behind Boss on that huge play was pretty enjoyable as well.
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nyftbl_giants
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Amani was so clutch this post season. The emergence of Bradshaw and S smith after what looked like a lost season almost for both. SO many little things. Thanks to D Ward, maybe a forgotten player. You cant win it without getting there, and he was huge when we needed him. Im so hung over, its so worth it.
Koya
Footballguy
For the Giants to win,m the stars must align. The Giants must play a perfect football game to have a chance (they did not - stumble on Moss' TD, dropped ball leading to an INT etc.). Giants must at the least score 30+ and hope to get lucky at the end. Giants need to have a great running game going for 150+ on the ground. Giants absolutely MUST convert in the red zone, with TDs, every time they get there.
The fact is, the Giants made some mistakes. They did not have divine intervention, nor some really lucky breaks (no more than NE did). Their offense sputtered on NE's side of the 50 early on. The fact is, and I can't believe I am going to say this, the Giants outplayed AND outcoached NE last night with Eli outplaying Brady. They were the better team on this one day.
The fact is, the Giants made some mistakes. They did not have divine intervention, nor some really lucky breaks (no more than NE did). Their offense sputtered on NE's side of the 50 early on. The fact is, and I can't believe I am going to say this, the Giants outplayed AND outcoached NE last night with Eli outplaying Brady. They were the better team on this one day.
redman
Footballguy
As a 'Skins fan, I must say that this was the most enjoyable Super Bowl and outcome that I've ever had that didn't involve my own team.I'd also add that that's pretty remarkable that I feel that way because I never root for NFC East teams. I know that some NFC East fans, including some of my fellow 'Skins fans, will root for other NFC East teams when the 'Skins are out of the running, but for me the rivalries are too visceral for me to cross over.ceo3west said:
Congrats, Giants and fans. Great, great win.
aardball44
Footballguy
The the most frequent comments I heard on Sunday -- from morning until kickoff -- were that the Giants would need to keep getting to Brady, knocking him down or out, to have a chance to win the game, and that they would need to convert their third-down opportunities.They did both.
DawnBTVS
Footballguy
As a Patriots fan...
Congrats to the New York Giants and their fans
Heartbreaking loss but the Giants defense really stepped it up and Eli was "Brady" during the game winning drive.
Some tough breaks that hurt/didn't go our way such as the missed interceptions (esp. the Asante Samuel one at 1:16 IIRC) but the Giants made the plays and the Patriots didn't.
We'll see you guys next year in the SB!
Congrats to the New York Giants and their fans
Heartbreaking loss but the Giants defense really stepped it up and Eli was "Brady" during the game winning drive.
Some tough breaks that hurt/didn't go our way such as the missed interceptions (esp. the Asante Samuel one at 1:16 IIRC) but the Giants made the plays and the Patriots didn't.
We'll see you guys next year in the SB!
-jb-
Footballguy
scott72
Footballguy
Funny how everyone thought whoever came out of the NFC this year would simply get fed to the AFC team. Guess our conference deserves a little respect huh?As a 'Skins fan, I must say that this was the most enjoyable Super Bowl and outcome that I've ever had that didn't involve my own team.I'd also add that that's pretty remarkable that I feel that way because I never root for NFC East teams. I know that some NFC East fans, including some of my fellow 'Skins fans, will root for other NFC East teams when the 'Skins are out of the running, but for me the rivalries are too visceral for me to cross over.ceo3west said:
Congrats, Giants and fans. Great, great win.
nyftbl_giants
Footballguy
There is definately some irony there. I dont agree with th OP anyway. If your Eli, drivng to tie it, to me, cant be any more pressure filled than driving to WIN IT.
Jaysus
Good times!
are pics of this on the internet somewhere?very pretty face, but a bit of a badonkadonk
redman
Footballguy
Well, technically the Pats turned the ball over on downs, right?
ericttspikes
Footballguy
That was the call of the game. They never used Gostkowski right all year. Going for it on 4th down instead of FG attemps, usually up big on opponents. Now, with the Super Bowl on the line in a close game they chose not to take the points? If they aren't comfortable with their kicker hitting a 39 yarder, they only have themselves to blame. They should of worked him in more in those regular season blow-outs instead of going for the TD records. Love it!!!!!!!!Great game Gmen!!!!
bryhamm
Footballguy
No, I wasn't counting that. NE had 1 fumble lost, NYG gave up 1 int.
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