McGarnicle
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Smart move leveraging a missing uterus for sympathy votes. Class all the way. 
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***Official Survivor S29: San Juan Del Sur*** (1 Viewer)
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Angry Bovine
I'm sure Alec is about to blow us away with a thought provoking jury question.
Fariq
Footballguy
Mjolnirs
Footballguy
PinkydaPimp
Footballguy
oof
PinkydaPimp
Footballguy
he earned himself a spot on a villians season. well done.Best speech since season ones "I wouldn't give you water"
McGarnicle
Footballguy
Crappy season for sure, but the gay guy's speech, Missy's reaction and Baylor crying afterward make it all worth it.
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Angry Bovine
What did Reed say at the finale? Our local CBS station cut away while he was talking.
PinkydaPimp
Footballguy
It was a good enjoyable speech, sort of bitter, but well thought out. Best player won, so at least that made it enjoyable. Keith would have won just because of all the guys/his alliance being the jury, so Natalie played it really, really well to get herself to the end and she was in big jeopardy back when Jeremy got voted out.
TLEF316
Footballguy
Oh yeah. It was so obvious that they (especially the woman) were plants.
Oh...a hot blond with visible arm tats happens to be sitting right there.....
Mjolnirs
Footballguy
This season was missing a moment like this one. https://twitter.com/kyleroth13/status/545391794163560448
Kraft...
Footballguy
Mario Kart
Footballguy
1. Natalie's moves in this finale were awesome.
2. Jaclyn made the wrong move although, apparently, she was not destined to win.
3. Reed was right with what he said.
4. Natalie cleans up decently. Maybe a little weight came back but she's okay.
5. Jaclyn does not clean up decently.
6. Baylor does clean up decently.
7. The right person won the game... this time.
2. Jaclyn made the wrong move although, apparently, she was not destined to win.
3. Reed was right with what he said.
4. Natalie cleans up decently. Maybe a little weight came back but she's okay.
5. Jaclyn does not clean up decently.
6. Baylor does clean up decently.
7. The right person won the game... this time.
Natalie so deserving. Well done. Last episode was great. Strategy made sense. Nat knew Jeremy and the husbands would not vote for Jax.
Wondered why she didn't mention Jax only sitting beside her because Nat allowed it.
Jax should have taken Keith because she obviously had Alec wrapped around her finger. Plus Keith would have fumbled the jury summation for sure. Like he did in his ridiculous question of Natalie. You lied. Boo hoo. Dope.
Why does every hot chick look like Jax upon return? Like a filtered look.
Glad they called out Keith for his misplay at that tribal.
Wondered why she didn't mention Jax only sitting beside her because Nat allowed it.
Jax should have taken Keith because she obviously had Alec wrapped around her finger. Plus Keith would have fumbled the jury summation for sure. Like he did in his ridiculous question of Natalie. You lied. Boo hoo. Dope.
Why does every hot chick look like Jax upon return? Like a filtered look.
Glad they called out Keith for his misplay at that tribal.
snogger
Footballguy
Sure.. But he took it well and I love that it is the catch phase used against him now.
Keith: "I'm going out to mow the lawn"
Family: "No, STICK TO THE PLAN!"
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TLEF316
Footballguy
I've never understood why they pile 16 lbs of makeup on every single decent looking girl at the reunion show. Its bizarre
Jayrok
Footballguy
Nat deserved to win. She really did outplay everyone.
Keith is an idiot. Jeremy was spot on with his comments about playing with guys like Keith as you never know what that guy is going to say or do. How does Keith NOT try to convince Jac that she has a better chance against him and Missy than against Nat? Getting Nat out at the end was his best chance to win, as was Jac's. Instead, Keith punts and says it's in ya'lls hands now. And then he throws a wasted vote to Missy. Dude is Galactically stupid.
Jac was torn between rewarding Nat for giving her life the TC before and trying to win. Another stupid move by keeping the one player you can't possibly beat. Stupid.
Reed's tirade against Missy had to be the greatest speech in the show's history. Her icy stare between him and her crying daughter was just precious. Great tv that.
Keith is an idiot. Jeremy was spot on with his comments about playing with guys like Keith as you never know what that guy is going to say or do. How does Keith NOT try to convince Jac that she has a better chance against him and Missy than against Nat? Getting Nat out at the end was his best chance to win, as was Jac's. Instead, Keith punts and says it's in ya'lls hands now. And then he throws a wasted vote to Missy. Dude is Galactically stupid.
Jac was torn between rewarding Nat for giving her life the TC before and trying to win. Another stupid move by keeping the one player you can't possibly beat. Stupid.
Reed's tirade against Missy had to be the greatest speech in the show's history. Her icy stare between him and her crying daughter was just precious. Great tv that.
Jayrok
Footballguy
I thought she looked pretty good. But I also thought Missy looked good at the reunion show!!
snogger
Footballguy
She was in a lose-lose situation.. Keeping Nat she lost and keeping Keith, based on the impromptu votes at the Reunion, she would have lost..
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PinkydaPimp
Footballguy
I think she realized either way she would lose and wanted to come off as "honorable".She was in a lose-lose situation.. Keeping Nat she lost and keeping Keith, based on the impromptu votes at the Reunion, she would have lost..
Jayrok
Footballguy
In the end that turned out true but at the time she didn't know Keith would have won. And who knows, he may have said something in his final pitch to the jury that may have lost a vote or two. Never know with that guy. At the moment, I think it was her best move to vote off Nat. As for being honorable, yeah there is that. But it's a game and I don't think Nat would have held it against her if Jac voted her off. Hell, that is what Nat would have done. She said as much.She was in a lose-lose situation.. Keeping Nat she lost and keeping Keith, based on the impromptu votes at the Reunion, she would have lost..
snogger
Footballguy
You do wonder what the votes would have been like if it was Nat + Keith + JacIn the end that turned out true but at the time she didn't know Keith would have won. And who knows, he may have said something in his final pitch to the jury that may have lost a vote or two. Never know with that guy. At the moment, I think it was her best move to vote off Nat. As for being honorable, yeah there is that. But it's a game and I don't think Nat would have held it against her if Jac voted her off. Hell, that is what Nat would have done. She said as much.She was in a lose-lose situation.. Keeping Nat she lost and keeping Keith, based on the impromptu votes at the Reunion, she would have lost..
Seems many were torn between Keith and Nat so it is possible Jac steals a vote and pulls out the win
Nah, Jac would have gotten one vote then, from John. You are correct, it was lose-lose. I don't think she had a chance either way, but I think her strongest chance was with Natalie and hoping she gets the sympathy card and the bitterness towards Natalie. Keith was too loved/had a lot of alliance votes and Natalie played the game the best, Jac was pretty much sunk regardless.You do wonder what the votes would have been like if it was Nat + Keith + JacIn the end that turned out true but at the time she didn't know Keith would have won. And who knows, he may have said something in his final pitch to the jury that may have lost a vote or two. Never know with that guy. At the moment, I think it was her best move to vote off Nat. As for being honorable, yeah there is that. But it's a game and I don't think Nat would have held it against her if Jac voted her off. Hell, that is what Nat would have done. She said as much.She was in a lose-lose situation.. Keeping Nat she lost and keeping Keith, based on the impromptu votes at the Reunion, she would have lost..
Seems many were torn between Keith and Nat so it is possible Jac steals a vote and pulls out the win
jamny
Footballguy
Reed voted for Jacklyn
I was not a fan of the Twinnies from Amazing Race but Natalie played great and deserved the win.
Did they say why on the show? If not, I am assuming it was coordinated to make sure Missy didn't finish 2nd. If Reed voted opposite of Josh, the only reason was to make sure Jac was 2nd over Missy since Jac would get John's vote and Missy would get Baylor's vote.
That said, the Wiki page says Keith voted for Natalie, didn't someone say above that Keith voted for Jac? Was that because people assumed the second vote for Jac had to come from Keith?
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
Reed voted for 2nd place - he basically voted to screw Missy out of a tie for 2nd. They all knew they were voting Nat.
(If I recall correctly it's $100k for 2nd and $75k for 3rd)
Keith's question may have been just to play some false drama - since he voted for her anyway.
Natalie played it right. Maybe she could've pulled a Keith vote and won if she went with him, though I kinda doubt that.
It is pretty funny that Keith was so terrible at Survivor but damn near won the game. That actually woulda been kinda cool since that sort of winner has not happened in a while.
-QG
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parrot
Footballguy
I'm confused on how it was a GREAT move? She swapped out Baylor for Jaclyn. She's had Baylor in her pocket for weeks and Jaclyn ended up beating her in the final immunity, putting her in jeopardy of being sent packing. Maybe Baylor beats her too, but that's a coin-flip at worst. Yes, she was able to convince Jac to boot Keith, but I think it's almost a lock that she could have made the exact same case to Baylor and Missy. Jaclyn already had a vote and supporter in Jon sitting on the jury, whereas neither Baylor or Missy seemed to have any support over there.GREAT move..just won it for her IF she makes the final 3
Sure it was GREAT entertainment watching Baylor and Missy's reaction, and it FELT like a big move, but strategically it was "meh" at best, IMO. If it's Nat, Baylor, and Missy in the final three, it might well have been 8-0 for Nat instead of 2-5-1.
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parrot
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Keith, Alec, and Wes all voted for Natalie. I don't know how having Baylor and Missy both sitting there rather than just Missy would have changed their calculus much (and yes, I just used Keith and calculus in the same sentence). Jon and Jac are really the only wild-cards at all in my mind, and since they would have to vote for someone who was involved in getting them out, I see them voting for gameplay. It should have been clear to everyone at that point, even Jon, that Nat was the one calling the shots all along. I sure don't see Jon voting for Missy out of "loyalty" since her flip is what sent him home.I dunno, you make it Baylor/Missy/Natalie, and I think Missy spends all her time telling them to vote for Baylor. So it, in effect, ends up a 1-on-1 final plus a cheerleader. I think Jon & Jaclyn might vote Baylor out of loyalty to Missy, since they were aligned together as the "son she never had" and they could put all the bad blood on Natalie. Keith might be a Baylor/Missy voter as well. Jeremy and the gay couple go Natalie. 3-3. Alec and Wes are left, who knows how they break.I'm confused on how it was a great move. She swapped out Baylor for Jaclyn. Jaclyn ended up beating her in the final immunity and put her in jeopardy of being sent packing. Maybe Baylor beats her too, but that's a coin-flip at worst. Yes, she was able to convince Jac to boot Keith, but I think it's almost a lock that she could have made the exact same case to Baylor and Missy. Jaclyn already had a vote and supporter in Jon sitting on the jury, whereas neither Baylor or Missy seemed to have any support over there.GREAT move..just won it for her IF she makes the final 3
Sure it was GREAT entertainment watching Baylor and Missy's reaction, and it FELT like a big move, but strategically it was "meh" at best, IMO. If it's Nat, Baylor, and Missy in the final three, it might well have been 8-0 for Nat instead of 2-5-1.
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dparker713
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Nat had to get to the final 3. If she lets Jaclyn get voted out at 5, she has a final 4 of her, Baylor, Missy and Keith. Missy had been worthless at challenges and Baylor not much better. That means she has to beat Keith or else go home and miss the final tribal. Not that Jaclyn was a much better option to win the ensuing challenge, but it atleast broke up a voting block. I think I'd have preferred her to send Missy home as Baylor would probably have been more likely to side with Nat in a vote, but either way it was the right move.I'm confused on how it was a GREAT move? She swapped out Baylor for Jaclyn. She's had Baylor in her pocket for weeks and Jaclyn ended up beating her in the final immunity, putting her in jeopardy of being sent packing. Maybe Baylor beats her too, but that's a coin-flip at worst. Yes, she was able to convince Jac to boot Keith, but I think it's almost a lock that she could have made the exact same case to Baylor and Missy. Jaclyn already had a vote and supporter in Jon sitting on the jury, whereas neither Baylor or Missy seemed to have any support over there.GREAT move..just won it for her IF she makes the final 3
Sure it was GREAT entertainment watching Baylor and Missy's reaction, and it FELT like a big move, but strategically it was "meh" at best, IMO. If it's Nat, Baylor, and Missy in the final three, it might well have been 8-0 for Nat instead of 2-5-1.
snogger
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Keith, Alec, and Wes all voted for Natalie. I don't know how having Baylor and Missy both sitting there rather than just Missy would have changed their calculus much (and yes, I just used Keith and calculus in the same sentence). Jon and Jac are really the only wild-cards at all in my mind, and since they would have to vote for someone who was involved in getting them out, I see them voting for gameplay. It should have been clear to everyone at that point, even Jon, that Nat was the one calling the shots all along. I sure don't see Jon voting for Missy out of "loyalty" since her flip is what sent him home.I dunno, you make it Baylor/Missy/Natalie, and I think Missy spends all her time telling them to vote for Baylor. So it, in effect, ends up a 1-on-1 final plus a cheerleader. I think Jon & Jaclyn might vote Baylor out of loyalty to Missy, since they were aligned together as the "son she never had" and they could put all the bad blood on Natalie. Keith might be a Baylor/Missy voter as well. Jeremy and the gay couple go Natalie. 3-3. Alec and Wes are left, who knows how they break.I'm confused on how it was a great move. She swapped out Baylor for Jaclyn. Jaclyn ended up beating her in the final immunity and put her in jeopardy of being sent packing. Maybe Baylor beats her too, but that's a coin-flip at worst. Yes, she was able to convince Jac to boot Keith, but I think it's almost a lock that she could have made the exact same case to Baylor and Missy. Jaclyn already had a vote and supporter in Jon sitting on the jury, whereas neither Baylor or Missy seemed to have any support over there.GREAT move..just won it for her IF she makes the final 3
Sure it was GREAT entertainment watching Baylor and Missy's reaction, and it FELT like a big move, but strategically it was "meh" at best, IMO. If it's Nat, Baylor, and Missy in the final three, it might well have been 8-0 for Nat instead of 2-5-1.
Baylor did everything in her power during her statement/questions from the jury to sell everyone on her mom..If it was revered I guarantee Missy is stating out point by point all Baylor did ( lies or not) to carry both of them to the finals..
Better to break up the team and taking out Baylor instead of Missy like Keith wanted was the smart play.
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parrot
Footballguy
Point 1, yes, to absolutely no effect.Keith, Alec, and Wes all voted for Natalie. I don't know how having Baylor and Missy both sitting there rather than just Missy would have changed their calculus much (and yes, I just used Keith and calculus in the same sentence). Jon and Jac are really the only wild-cards at all in my mind, and since they would have to vote for someone who was involved in getting them out, I see them voting for gameplay. It should have been clear to everyone at that point, even Jon, that Nat was the one calling the shots all along. I sure don't see Jon voting for Missy out of "loyalty" since her flip is what sent him home.I dunno, you make it Baylor/Missy/Natalie, and I think Missy spends all her time telling them to vote for Baylor. So it, in effect, ends up a 1-on-1 final plus a cheerleader. I think Jon & Jaclyn might vote Baylor out of loyalty to Missy, since they were aligned together as the "son she never had" and they could put all the bad blood on Natalie. Keith might be a Baylor/Missy voter as well. Jeremy and the gay couple go Natalie. 3-3. Alec and Wes are left, who knows how they break.I'm confused on how it was a great move. She swapped out Baylor for Jaclyn. Jaclyn ended up beating her in the final immunity and put her in jeopardy of being sent packing. Maybe Baylor beats her too, but that's a coin-flip at worst. Yes, she was able to convince Jac to boot Keith, but I think it's almost a lock that she could have made the exact same case to Baylor and Missy. Jaclyn already had a vote and supporter in Jon sitting on the jury, whereas neither Baylor or Missy seemed to have any support over there.GREAT move..just won it for her IF she makes the final 3
Sure it was GREAT entertainment watching Baylor and Missy's reaction, and it FELT like a big move, but strategically it was "meh" at best, IMO. If it's Nat, Baylor, and Missy in the final three, it might well have been 8-0 for Nat instead of 2-5-1.
If it was revered I guarantee Missy is stating out point by point all Baylor did ( lies or not) to carry both of them to the finals..
Better to break up the team and taking out Baylor instead of Missy like Keith wanted was the smart play.
Point 2, was there any reason to believe Missy would have been any more successful selling people on Baylor than the opposite? No one had any respect for Baylor as near as I can tell and they would know exactly what Missy's game was.
Point 3, of course it made more sense to take out Baylor. Missy has a broken leg which made her literally no threat in the final challenge.
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
I'm not convinced that Missy wanted to take Baylor to the finals (when they were at 5) - I'm assuming that she wanted whichever one of them made the final 3 to pocket at least one vote. Baylor seemed to talk her into a plan of both of them going to finals.
I think Missy helping vote Baylor out at 4 would have been savaged by the jury. I think they had it in for her either way. But it is something interesting that I though about when you have a pair in the final 4 (or even two pairs if you go back to an original scenario of say Baylor/Missy/Jon/Jaclyn - I could totally see Missy voting her own daughter out).
Jaclyn didn't sell enough the idea that she persuaded Jon's votes - that she was an important part of that pair. It was a legit point but one that she may have never sold to a jury.
Didn't really think much of Reed's speech fwiw.
-QG
I think Missy helping vote Baylor out at 4 would have been savaged by the jury. I think they had it in for her either way. But it is something interesting that I though about when you have a pair in the final 4 (or even two pairs if you go back to an original scenario of say Baylor/Missy/Jon/Jaclyn - I could totally see Missy voting her own daughter out).
Jaclyn didn't sell enough the idea that she persuaded Jon's votes - that she was an important part of that pair. It was a legit point but one that she may have never sold to a jury.
Didn't really think much of Reed's speech fwiw.
-QG
snogger
Footballguy
well yea Point one had no affect, especially after Reeds speechPoint 1, yes, to absolutely no effect.Keith, Alec, and Wes all voted for Natalie. I don't know how having Baylor and Missy both sitting there rather than just Missy would have changed their calculus much (and yes, I just used Keith and calculus in the same sentence). Jon and Jac are really the only wild-cards at all in my mind, and since they would have to vote for someone who was involved in getting them out, I see them voting for gameplay. It should have been clear to everyone at that point, even Jon, that Nat was the one calling the shots all along. I sure don't see Jon voting for Missy out of "loyalty" since her flip is what sent him home.I dunno, you make it Baylor/Missy/Natalie, and I think Missy spends all her time telling them to vote for Baylor. So it, in effect, ends up a 1-on-1 final plus a cheerleader. I think Jon & Jaclyn might vote Baylor out of loyalty to Missy, since they were aligned together as the "son she never had" and they could put all the bad blood on Natalie. Keith might be a Baylor/Missy voter as well. Jeremy and the gay couple go Natalie. 3-3. Alec and Wes are left, who knows how they break.I'm confused on how it was a great move. She swapped out Baylor for Jaclyn. Jaclyn ended up beating her in the final immunity and put her in jeopardy of being sent packing. Maybe Baylor beats her too, but that's a coin-flip at worst. Yes, she was able to convince Jac to boot Keith, but I think it's almost a lock that she could have made the exact same case to Baylor and Missy. Jaclyn already had a vote and supporter in Jon sitting on the jury, whereas neither Baylor or Missy seemed to have any support over there.GREAT move..just won it for her IF she makes the final 3
Sure it was GREAT entertainment watching Baylor and Missy's reaction, and it FELT like a big move, but strategically it was "meh" at best, IMO. If it's Nat, Baylor, and Missy in the final three, it might well have been 8-0 for Nat instead of 2-5-1.
If it was revered I guarantee Missy is stating out point by point all Baylor did ( lies or not) to carry both of them to the finals..
Better to break up the team and taking out Baylor instead of Missy like Keith wanted was the smart play.
Point 2, was there any reason to believe Missy would have been any more successful selling people on Baylor than the opposite? No one had any respect for Baylor as near as I can tell and they would know exactly what Missy's game was.
Point 3, of course it made more sense to take out Baylor. Missy has a broken leg which made her literally no threat in the final challenge.
But in reality, as I posted during the show when it got to the final 3, Missy had ZERO chance of winning regardless of what she said or did at the last TC..
Way too many felt the same way Reed elegantly articulated it
snogger
Footballguy
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My family was saying the same thing..Most on the Jury knew Jon was a push over... she needed to speak up and talk about all the stupid things he was doing and how she did everything in her power to change his mind.
Instinctive
Footballguy
Damn. Dislike Natalie. She played very well. Congrats to her.
parrot
Footballguy
She broke up a voting block who had never given any indication they would go against her and whose only other option would have been Keith, which would have been even more suicidal for them. At least against Natalie they could make the case that they were a team and all equally instrumental in getting to that point in the game. I don't know what case they possibly could have made against Keith who had been dodging bullets for weeks.Nat had to get to the final 3. If she lets Jaclyn get voted out at 5, she has a final 4 of her, Baylor, Missy and Keith. Missy had been worthless at challenges and Baylor not much better. That means she has to beat Keith or else go home and miss the final tribal. Not that Jaclyn was a much better option to win the ensuing challenge, but it atleast broke up a voting block. I think I'd have preferred her to send Missy home as Baylor would probably have been more likely to side with Nat in a vote, but either way it was the right move.I'm confused on how it was a GREAT move? She swapped out Baylor for Jaclyn. She's had Baylor in her pocket for weeks and Jaclyn ended up beating her in the final immunity, putting her in jeopardy of being sent packing. Maybe Baylor beats her too, but that's a coin-flip at worst. Yes, she was able to convince Jac to boot Keith, but I think it's almost a lock that she could have made the exact same case to Baylor and Missy. Jaclyn already had a vote and supporter in Jon sitting on the jury, whereas neither Baylor or Missy seemed to have any support over there.GREAT move..just won it for her IF she makes the final 3
Sure it was GREAT entertainment watching Baylor and Missy's reaction, and it FELT like a big move, but strategically it was "meh" at best, IMO. If it's Nat, Baylor, and Missy in the final three, it might well have been 8-0 for Nat instead of 2-5-1.
Hard to do that when she throws hissy fits and doesn't talk to her loved one for 5 hours and flirst openly with another guy while her beau is on Exile Island. I think they may have edited it a bit more to make it seem like she had a chance, but I don't think she had a real shot to convince anyone.Very
Most on the Jury knew Jon was a push over... she needed to speak up and talk about all the stupid things he was doing and how she did everything in her power to change his mind.
parrot
Footballguy
I find it very hard to imagine Missy taking part in eliminating Baylor. Partially I just can't see her doing it, but also second pays a $100k and 3rd $75k I think. So with one of them in the final 3 they were guaranteed $75k and with both of them there $175k. I don't see Missy betting $100k for her daughter that she was going to win the million.
dparker713
Footballguy
You're completely ignoring the final immunity challenge.She broke up a voting block who had never given any indication they would go against her and whose only other option would have been Keith, which would have been even more suicidal for them. At least against Natalie they could make the case that they were a team and all equally instrumental in getting to that point in the game. I don't know what case they possibly could have made against Keith who had been dodging bullets for weeks.Nat had to get to the final 3. If she lets Jaclyn get voted out at 5, she has a final 4 of her, Baylor, Missy and Keith. Missy had been worthless at challenges and Baylor not much better. That means she has to beat Keith or else go home and miss the final tribal. Not that Jaclyn was a much better option to win the ensuing challenge, but it atleast broke up a voting block. I think I'd have preferred her to send Missy home as Baylor would probably have been more likely to side with Nat in a vote, but either way it was the right move.I'm confused on how it was a GREAT move? She swapped out Baylor for Jaclyn. She's had Baylor in her pocket for weeks and Jaclyn ended up beating her in the final immunity, putting her in jeopardy of being sent packing. Maybe Baylor beats her too, but that's a coin-flip at worst. Yes, she was able to convince Jac to boot Keith, but I think it's almost a lock that she could have made the exact same case to Baylor and Missy. Jaclyn already had a vote and supporter in Jon sitting on the jury, whereas neither Baylor or Missy seemed to have any support over there.GREAT move..just won it for her IF she makes the final 3
Sure it was GREAT entertainment watching Baylor and Missy's reaction, and it FELT like a big move, but strategically it was "meh" at best, IMO. If it's Nat, Baylor, and Missy in the final three, it might well have been 8-0 for Nat instead of 2-5-1.
parrot
Footballguy
How so? It's Jac or Baylor? Had either one done much in challenges to that point? Like you said, it's a coin flip.You're completely ignoring the final immunity challenge.She broke up a voting block who had never given any indication they would go against her and whose only other option would have been Keith, which would have been even more suicidal for them. At least against Natalie they could make the case that they were a team and all equally instrumental in getting to that point in the game. I don't know what case they possibly could have made against Keith who had been dodging bullets for weeks.Nat had to get to the final 3. If she lets Jaclyn get voted out at 5, she has a final 4 of her, Baylor, Missy and Keith. Missy had been worthless at challenges and Baylor not much better. That means she has to beat Keith or else go home and miss the final tribal. Not that Jaclyn was a much better option to win the ensuing challenge, but it atleast broke up a voting block. I think I'd have preferred her to send Missy home as Baylor would probably have been more likely to side with Nat in a vote, but either way it was the right move.I'm confused on how it was a GREAT move? She swapped out Baylor for Jaclyn. She's had Baylor in her pocket for weeks and Jaclyn ended up beating her in the final immunity, putting her in jeopardy of being sent packing. Maybe Baylor beats her too, but that's a coin-flip at worst. Yes, she was able to convince Jac to boot Keith, but I think it's almost a lock that she could have made the exact same case to Baylor and Missy. Jaclyn already had a vote and supporter in Jon sitting on the jury, whereas neither Baylor or Missy seemed to have any support over there.GREAT move..just won it for her IF she makes the final 3
Sure it was GREAT entertainment watching Baylor and Missy's reaction, and it FELT like a big move, but strategically it was "meh" at best, IMO. If it's Nat, Baylor, and Missy in the final three, it might well have been 8-0 for Nat instead of 2-5-1.
dparker713
Footballguy
Most probable outcome for the next challenge was a Keith win. If he wins when the other members are Nat, Baylor and Missy, then Nat can at best hope for a fire challenge. By breaking up the voting block she opened up the possibility of making the finals without winning final immunity.How so? It's Jac or Baylor? Had either one done much in challenges to that point? Like you said, it's a coin flip.You're completely ignoring the final immunity challenge.She broke up a voting block who had never given any indication they would go against her and whose only other option would have been Keith, which would have been even more suicidal for them. At least against Natalie they could make the case that they were a team and all equally instrumental in getting to that point in the game. I don't know what case they possibly could have made against Keith who had been dodging bullets for weeks.Nat had to get to the final 3. If she lets Jaclyn get voted out at 5, she has a final 4 of her, Baylor, Missy and Keith. Missy had been worthless at challenges and Baylor not much better. That means she has to beat Keith or else go home and miss the final tribal. Not that Jaclyn was a much better option to win the ensuing challenge, but it atleast broke up a voting block. I think I'd have preferred her to send Missy home as Baylor would probably have been more likely to side with Nat in a vote, but either way it was the right move.I'm confused on how it was a GREAT move? She swapped out Baylor for Jaclyn. She's had Baylor in her pocket for weeks and Jaclyn ended up beating her in the final immunity, putting her in jeopardy of being sent packing. Maybe Baylor beats her too, but that's a coin-flip at worst. Yes, she was able to convince Jac to boot Keith, but I think it's almost a lock that she could have made the exact same case to Baylor and Missy. Jaclyn already had a vote and supporter in Jon sitting on the jury, whereas neither Baylor or Missy seemed to have any support over there.GREAT move..just won it for her IF she makes the final 3
Sure it was GREAT entertainment watching Baylor and Missy's reaction, and it FELT like a big move, but strategically it was "meh" at best, IMO. If it's Nat, Baylor, and Missy in the final three, it might well have been 8-0 for Nat instead of 2-5-1.
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