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***Official Texas Rangers 2013 Thread*** (3 Viewers)
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Bogart
Footballguy
Or can we?Pretty impossible to tell what's going on right now.Supposedly we're hot and heavy on Greinke.We're also involved in a 4 way trade that would bring us Upton.We're also involved in talks for James Shields.And we're the leader for Hamilton.We can't do them all.
Bogart
Footballguy
Do you want to play third base every day, or do you want to see your family every night? Kind of a win/win there Mike, think about it.
culdeus
Footballguy
So the consensus is that the Mariners are going to offer somewhere in the 3/70 range for Hamilton.
Imagine what his contract would have looked like at the ASB. At least 5/120 ish.
I am shocked he couldn't find anyone to offer him a 5 year deal for 100. I thought that was his floor.
Imagine what his contract would have looked like at the ASB. At least 5/120 ish.
I am shocked he couldn't find anyone to offer him a 5 year deal for 100. I thought that was his floor.
scoobus
Footballguy
russinfortworth
Footballguy
Supposedly out on Grienke..............now do we pull the trigger on the trades that bring Upton and another frontline pitcher? 
Disco Stu
Confirmed FBGal
What's Plan C?
Bogart
Footballguy
Really good ####### question.How about sign Hamilton AND trade for Upton? Murphy and Cruz platoon the 3rd outfield spot/DH. Martin and/or Gentry gone in the trade. Beltre, Andrus, Profar still 3/4 of your infield. Olt or Moreland at first (whoever doesn't go in a trade). Kinsler is your new FACE. Playing second, some third
and some first. Trust your rotation with Darvish and Harry at the top. Hope for big things from Feliz and Lewis at the ASB.Getting shut out this offseason isn't the end of the world, but sure would be strange considering they were in on everyone early on.
Disco Stu
Confirmed FBGal
Young trade already looking good from a https://si0.twimg.com/profile_images/2953118417/5325da6313c2ba43b073621833c67888.jpeg
WAG perspective.
WAG perspective.
coolnerd
Footballguy
Here is my guess as to what would run out if the Rangers had to play today. DarvishHarrisonHollandOgandoPerezstill five guys with plus stuff. with Lewis in holding until Julyishand while now a speed and defense teamKinslerandrusmurphyBeltreCruzOLT/MorelandSotoGentry/MartinProfarI have my doubts this thing needs to be in a win now situation. The FPTR v2.0 is maybe a year out. Kids just aren't quite there yet and team as a whole isn't shaping up to look like a serious contender. Maybe it's not the best timing to blow through the bankroll?
coolnerd
Footballguy
Profar would be 2nd with Kinsler taking Young's DH/all over the in-field rolehttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/11/ian-kinsler-not-thrilled-with-the-idea-of-changing-positions/Just a bunch of rumors now.
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Eephus
Footballguy
Any talk of Kinsler moving to the OF?
Bogart
Footballguy
Worst case situation, not horrible, but not great either. You are asking for every youngster to improve greatly, and Murphy to have a career year, if you want to win the AL West.Here is my guess as to what would run out if the Rangers had to play today. DarvishHarrisonHollandOgandoPerezstill five guys with plus stuff. with Lewis in holding until Julyishand while now a speed and defense teamKinslerandrusmurphyBeltreCruzOLT/MorelandSotoGentry/MartinProfarI have my doubts this thing needs to be in a win now situation. The FPTR v2.0 is maybe a year out. Kids just aren't quite there yet and team as a whole isn't shaping up to look like a serious contender. Maybe it's not the best timing to blow through the bankroll?
Josh.russinfortworth
Footballguy
Daniels says that they were not given the right to match.
Bogart
Footballguy
That's not very Godly of the Hamilton camp.
Eephus
Footballguy
When it's all said and done, Texas will probably have gotten Hamilton's best years and definitely his highest value ones.
Bogart
Footballguy
Don't get me wrong. I would be upset if Texas signed him to 5 years/125,000,001, I just find it interesting when during the entire process, Josh said he would let Texas match, and then at the end, Daniels (always quiet about the process) is mad enough to make the comment.
russinfortworth
Footballguy
I think that you can read ALOT into the fact that Daniel's made that statement.
I agree that him leaving is a good thing. Just don't like being misled...............I'm sure that the "lord" told him to handle it this way.
I agree that him leaving is a good thing. Just don't like being misled...............I'm sure that the "lord" told him to handle it this way.
coolnerd
Footballguy
I don't really care about the not matching. It is like the girl you told let's date other people and when the one dude you hate puts the ring on her finger, you claim that we never really broke up.
Edit: Daniels tried to get Hamilton at the Rangers' price w/o aggressive pursuit. Got burned and is coming off as naive.
Edit: Daniels tried to get Hamilton at the Rangers' price w/o aggressive pursuit. Got burned and is coming off as naive.
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Bogart
Footballguy
The bathroom stall at Sherlock's?
culdeus
Footballguy
I still think there was way more to this story than what was let on. If not the actual event the days leading up to it.
Definition of a timebomb. Angels will have 90MM on the books to some real washed up old guys in 2 years.
It should also be noted that the guy he is replacing (Hunter) has a higher WAR.
Do I sound bitter?
oso diablo
Footballguy
over the last 4 months of the 2012 season, Hamilton was basically Alfonso Soriano. Of course, in the 1st 2 months, he was Babe Ruth.
i'm satisfied with letting another team pay for that much for him.
i'm satisfied with letting another team pay for that much for him.
oso diablo
Footballguy
i couldn't get Angel Pagan here, so will have to settle for Bourn
I don't really see what Bourn is going to do that a Gentry/Martin platoon won't come close to doing for like infinity less dollars.We need a RH hitting bat in the OF so Murph doesn't play everyday, and we need someone to play first base/DH. And a good defensive catcher would be nice too.
Add LaRoche and Willingham. Problem solved. IanElvisWillinghamBeltreLaRocheCruzMurphyGentry/MartinSoto/ Schopach
Eephus
Footballguy
Willingham won't come cheap. He's signed to a very friendly contract for two years and is coming off his best year. The Twins aren't going to contend but they're under no pressure to deal him.
Agree, but he's going to be a lot cheaper than Upton. Guys like young controllable pitchers like Ogando, Perez, Buckel and some OF pieces like Gentry, Beltre, Borboun... Moreland could probably get a deal without losing an Andrus, Profar or Olt that would be required in an Upton deal. He could DH/OF with Cruz and Murphy. Not the most impressive defensive outfield, but a solid 1-7 lineup. Ogando has 4 years of team control left.
oso diablo
Footballguy
that's a reasonable point.i like Leonys Martin, but don't see Gentry as anything better than a 4th OF. Martin could slide into RF if Cruz is part of a trade package. If no Bourn, then i'd be fine with Martin as the full-time CF. Big boppers (esp at 1B) are the 2nd most over-valued commodity in the game, after closers.Bourn adds more all-around value than a guy like Laroche or Swisher. His agent is Boras, so the price could prove to be too steep, but i'd take him for 4/55.
Don't worry, Jesus told her not to miss you either.
coolnerd
Footballguy
All I know is that ditz makes me feel dumber for using a relationship analogy.
Bogart
Footballguy
All in the past now, but the story came out on radio today that one of the two owners of the Rangers invited Josh and Katie to their home for dinner with them and their wife. No agents, no JD, no Nolan. Just dinner to discuss the future and what they might be able to do. Josh and Katie declined. They wanted out.
