***OFFICIAL 'The Following' TV Series Thread*** (1 Viewer)

[Black Sunshine]

Too obvious.

 

[Wyld Stallyns]

My theory: Kevin Bacon is in on it. He just doesn't realize it yet.

 

[Dragons]

Watched the pilot last night and chapter 2 tonight. I'm in for awhile.

 

[Aerial Assault]

Watched the pilot last night and chapter 2 tonight. I'm in for awhile.

THERE HE IS!!! (After slight detour)

 

[shadyridr]

Great episode

 

[beer 302]

Great episode

Seriously ####ed up show

 

[Tony Jabroni]

Great episode

Seriously ####ed up show

This. Seriously awesome, too. Did they really have to kill the black FBI agent, though?

 

[tdoss]

The twist you're all looking for is the young FBI agent, Mike Weston.He's obviously in on it.I told my son after the second episode. Then in the third, when Bacon left him with the bleeding black FBI agent...I said, damn...dude is DEFINITELY gonna be dead when Bacon gets back.Book it.

 

[mad sweeney]

The twist you're all looking for is the young FBI agent, Mike Weston.He's obviously in on it.I told my son after the second episode. Then in the third, when Bacon left him with the bleeding black FBI agent...I said, damn...dude is DEFINITELY gonna be dead when Bacon gets back.Book it.

The dude took a good size knife to the hilt right in the throat, anyone short of Jesus wasn't going to be able to save him. However, that doesn't mean Iceman isn't a follower. I'm sure they'll be playing up the possibility of anyone being a follower and there'll be clues left that point to every main character. But that instance doesn't seem like one of those times.

 

[zed2283]

IN.But I'm already tired of everyone being in on it.

 

[tdoss]

The twist you're all looking for is the young FBI agent, Mike Weston.He's obviously in on it.I told my son after the second episode. Then in the third, when Bacon left him with the bleeding black FBI agent...I said, damn...dude is DEFINITELY gonna be dead when Bacon gets back.Book it.

The dude took a good size knife to the hilt right in the throat, anyone short of Jesus wasn't going to be able to save him. However, that doesn't mean Iceman isn't a follower. I'm sure they'll be playing up the possibility of anyone being a follower and there'll be clues left that point to every main character. But that instance doesn't seem like one of those times.

This last episode pretty much proves the guy is the twist.He makes sure he goes with Bacon to save his sister. My son and I were both saying, "Watch...he'll come in and save Bacon by killing the girl killer and end up looking like a good guy...when it's really to make sure she doesn't kill Bacon, because that's what Joe wants...she went off book."

 

[mad sweeney]

The twist you're all looking for is the young FBI agent, Mike Weston.He's obviously in on it.I told my son after the second episode. Then in the third, when Bacon left him with the bleeding black FBI agent...I said, damn...dude is DEFINITELY gonna be dead when Bacon gets back.Book it.

The dude took a good size knife to the hilt right in the throat, anyone short of Jesus wasn't going to be able to save him. However, that doesn't mean Iceman isn't a follower. I'm sure they'll be playing up the possibility of anyone being a follower and there'll be clues left that point to every main character. But that instance doesn't seem like one of those times.

This last episode pretty much proves the guy is the twist.He makes sure he goes with Bacon to save his sister. My son and I were both saying, "Watch...he'll come in and save Bacon by killing the girl killer and end up looking like a good guy...when it's really to make sure she doesn't kill Bacon, because that's what Joe wants...she went off book."

Meh, still seems like a reach. That whole caper was "off the books" and the only reason he was there was because the boss lady made him go. Other than the death of the lead, there isn't any storyline that doesn't end in him killing Maggie. Not convinced. Not saying it's wrong, but I don't see the evidence so far. But that's part of the thriller-ness of the show, that anyone can be part of his cult. I'd bet on the single middle aged woman who's studied cults for years. Gaze not into the abyss and such...

 

[snogger]

The twist you're all looking for is the young FBI agent, Mike Weston.

He's obviously in on it.

I told my son after the second episode. Then in the third, when Bacon left him with the bleeding black FBI agent...I said, damn...dude is DEFINITELY gonna be dead when Bacon gets back.

Book it.

The dude took a good size knife to the hilt right in the throat, anyone short of Jesus wasn't going to be able to save him. However, that doesn't mean Iceman isn't a follower. I'm sure they'll be playing up the possibility of anyone being a follower and there'll be clues left that point to every main character. But that instance doesn't seem like one of those times.

This last episode pretty much proves the guy is the twist.He makes sure he goes with Bacon to save his sister. My son and I were both saying, "Watch...he'll come in and save Bacon by killing the girl killer and end up looking like a good guy...when it's really to make sure she doesn't kill Bacon, because that's what Joe wants...she went off book."

Meh, still seems like a reach. That whole caper was "off the books" and the only reason he was there was because the boss lady made him go. Other than the death of the lead, there isn't any storyline that doesn't end in him killing Maggie. Not convinced. Not saying it's wrong, but I don't see the evidence so far. But that's part of the thriller-ness of the show, that anyone can be part of his cult. I'd bet on the single middle aged woman who's studied cults for years. Gaze not into the abyss and such...

even then he wasn't going to follow him until she mentioned he received a call from "Jenny". She had no idea who "Jenny" was but he did because he had read Bacon's book. I never put anything past writers to throw a twist like it, but right now it doesn't seem logical.

 

[beer 302]

Man this is a dark, creepy show. Can you imagine the writing sessions for this? Writers going need counseling after the season or an FBI tail

 

[shadyridr]

The twist you're all looking for is the young FBI agent, Mike Weston.

He's obviously in on it.

I told my son after the second episode. Then in the third, when Bacon left him with the bleeding black FBI agent...I said, damn...dude is DEFINITELY gonna be dead when Bacon gets back.

Book it.

The dude took a good size knife to the hilt right in the throat, anyone short of Jesus wasn't going to be able to save him. However, that doesn't mean Iceman isn't a follower. I'm sure they'll be playing up the possibility of anyone being a follower and there'll be clues left that point to every main character. But that instance doesn't seem like one of those times.

This last episode pretty much proves the guy is the twist.He makes sure he goes with Bacon to save his sister. My son and I were both saying, "Watch...he'll come in and save Bacon by killing the girl killer and end up looking like a good guy...when it's really to make sure she doesn't kill Bacon, because that's what Joe wants...she went off book."

Meh, still seems like a reach. That whole caper was "off the books" and the only reason he was there was because the boss lady made him go. Other than the death of the lead, there isn't any storyline that doesn't end in him killing Maggie. Not convinced. Not saying it's wrong, but I don't see the evidence so far. But that's part of the thriller-ness of the show, that anyone can be part of his cult. I'd bet on the single middle aged woman who's studied cults for years. Gaze not into the abyss and such...

Huh? He specifically didnt tell her where he was going.

 

[snogger]

The twist you're all looking for is the young FBI agent, Mike Weston.

He's obviously in on it.

I told my son after the second episode. Then in the third, when Bacon left him with the bleeding black FBI agent...I said, damn...dude is DEFINITELY gonna be dead when Bacon gets back.

Book it.

The dude took a good size knife to the hilt right in the throat, anyone short of Jesus wasn't going to be able to save him. However, that doesn't mean Iceman isn't a follower. I'm sure they'll be playing up the possibility of anyone being a follower and there'll be clues left that point to every main character. But that instance doesn't seem like one of those times.

This last episode pretty much proves the guy is the twist.He makes sure he goes with Bacon to save his sister. My son and I were both saying, "Watch...he'll come in and save Bacon by killing the girl killer and end up looking like a good guy...when it's really to make sure she doesn't kill Bacon, because that's what Joe wants...she went off book."

Meh, still seems like a reach. That whole caper was "off the books" and the only reason he was there was because the boss lady made him go. Other than the death of the lead, there isn't any storyline that doesn't end in him killing Maggie. Not convinced. Not saying it's wrong, but I don't see the evidence so far. But that's part of the thriller-ness of the show, that anyone can be part of his cult. I'd bet on the single middle aged woman who's studied cults for years. Gaze not into the abyss and such...

Huh? He specifically didnt tell her where he was going.

You might be who he is talking about..The "boss lady" told "tag along" to follow Bacon.. Tag along stood there at first until Boss Lady told him "Jenny" had called.. After Tag along confronted Bacon he went along with Bacon and you are correct he didn't tell Boss lady where he was going.

Guess we could use the characters names but what fun would that be

 

[Michael Brown]

The twist you're all looking for is the young FBI agent, Mike Weston.

He's obviously in on it.

I told my son after the second episode. Then in the third, when Bacon left him with the bleeding black FBI agent...I said, damn...dude is DEFINITELY gonna be dead when Bacon gets back.

Book it.

The dude took a good size knife to the hilt right in the throat, anyone short of Jesus wasn't going to be able to save him. However, that doesn't mean Iceman isn't a follower. I'm sure they'll be playing up the possibility of anyone being a follower and there'll be clues left that point to every main character. But that instance doesn't seem like one of those times.

This last episode pretty much proves the guy is the twist.He makes sure he goes with Bacon to save his sister. My son and I were both saying, "Watch...he'll come in and save Bacon by killing the girl killer and end up looking like a good guy...when it's really to make sure she doesn't kill Bacon, because that's what Joe wants...she went off book."

Meh, still seems like a reach. That whole caper was "off the books" and the only reason he was there was because the boss lady made him go. Other than the death of the lead, there isn't any storyline that doesn't end in him killing Maggie. Not convinced. Not saying it's wrong, but I don't see the evidence so far. But that's part of the thriller-ness of the show, that anyone can be part of his cult. I'd bet on the single middle aged woman who's studied cults for years. Gaze not into the abyss and such...

Huh? He specifically didnt tell her where he was going.

You might be who he is talking about..The "boss lady" told "tag along" to follow Bacon.. Tag along stood there at first until Boss Lady told him "Jenny" had called.. After Tag along confronted Bacon he went along with Bacon and you are correct he didn't tell Boss lady where he was going.

Guess we could use the characters names but what fun would that be

We could just refer to everyone as Landry

 

[mad sweeney]

The twist you're all looking for is the young FBI agent, Mike Weston.

He's obviously in on it.

I told my son after the second episode. Then in the third, when Bacon left him with the bleeding black FBI agent...I said, damn...dude is DEFINITELY gonna be dead when Bacon gets back.

Book it.

The dude took a good size knife to the hilt right in the throat, anyone short of Jesus wasn't going to be able to save him. However, that doesn't mean Iceman isn't a follower. I'm sure they'll be playing up the possibility of anyone being a follower and there'll be clues left that point to every main character. But that instance doesn't seem like one of those times.

This last episode pretty much proves the guy is the twist.He makes sure he goes with Bacon to save his sister. My son and I were both saying, "Watch...he'll come in and save Bacon by killing the girl killer and end up looking like a good guy...when it's really to make sure she doesn't kill Bacon, because that's what Joe wants...she went off book."

Meh, still seems like a reach. That whole caper was "off the books" and the only reason he was there was because the boss lady made him go. Other than the death of the lead, there isn't any storyline that doesn't end in him killing Maggie. Not convinced. Not saying it's wrong, but I don't see the evidence so far. But that's part of the thriller-ness of the show, that anyone can be part of his cult. I'd bet on the single middle aged woman who's studied cults for years. Gaze not into the abyss and such...

Huh? He specifically didnt tell her where he was going.

True, but she specifically got him up from his desk and told him to follow Ryan.

 

[mad sweeney]

The twist you're all looking for is the young FBI agent, Mike Weston.

He's obviously in on it.

I told my son after the second episode. Then in the third, when Bacon left him with the bleeding black FBI agent...I said, damn...dude is DEFINITELY gonna be dead when Bacon gets back.

Book it.

The dude took a good size knife to the hilt right in the throat, anyone short of Jesus wasn't going to be able to save him. However, that doesn't mean Iceman isn't a follower. I'm sure they'll be playing up the possibility of anyone being a follower and there'll be clues left that point to every main character. But that instance doesn't seem like one of those times.

This last episode pretty much proves the guy is the twist.He makes sure he goes with Bacon to save his sister. My son and I were both saying, "Watch...he'll come in and save Bacon by killing the girl killer and end up looking like a good guy...when it's really to make sure she doesn't kill Bacon, because that's what Joe wants...she went off book."

Meh, still seems like a reach. That whole caper was "off the books" and the only reason he was there was because the boss lady made him go. Other than the death of the lead, there isn't any storyline that doesn't end in him killing Maggie. Not convinced. Not saying it's wrong, but I don't see the evidence so far. But that's part of the thriller-ness of the show, that anyone can be part of his cult. I'd bet on the single middle aged woman who's studied cults for years. Gaze not into the abyss and such...

Huh? He specifically didnt tell her where he was going.

You might be who he is talking about..The "boss lady" told "tag along" to follow Bacon.. Tag along stood there at first until Boss Lady told him "Jenny" had called.. After Tag along confronted Bacon he went along with Bacon and you are correct he didn't tell Boss lady where he was going.

Guess we could use the characters names but what fun would that be

The subject was Westin and nothing I said fit what Bacon did, so I thought the identity of "he" was pretty easy to follow.

 

[shadyridr]

The twist you're all looking for is the young FBI agent, Mike Weston.

He's obviously in on it.

I told my son after the second episode. Then in the third, when Bacon left him with the bleeding black FBI agent...I said, damn...dude is DEFINITELY gonna be dead when Bacon gets back.

Book it.

The dude took a good size knife to the hilt right in the throat, anyone short of Jesus wasn't going to be able to save him. However, that doesn't mean Iceman isn't a follower. I'm sure they'll be playing up the possibility of anyone being a follower and there'll be clues left that point to every main character. But that instance doesn't seem like one of those times.

This last episode pretty much proves the guy is the twist.He makes sure he goes with Bacon to save his sister. My son and I were both saying, "Watch...he'll come in and save Bacon by killing the girl killer and end up looking like a good guy...when it's really to make sure she doesn't kill Bacon, because that's what Joe wants...she went off book."

Meh, still seems like a reach. That whole caper was "off the books" and the only reason he was there was because the boss lady made him go. Other than the death of the lead, there isn't any storyline that doesn't end in him killing Maggie. Not convinced. Not saying it's wrong, but I don't see the evidence so far. But that's part of the thriller-ness of the show, that anyone can be part of his cult. I'd bet on the single middle aged woman who's studied cults for years. Gaze not into the abyss and such...

Huh? He specifically didnt tell her where he was going.

You might be who he is talking about..The "boss lady" told "tag along" to follow Bacon.. Tag along stood there at first until Boss Lady told him "Jenny" had called.. After Tag along confronted Bacon he went along with Bacon and you are correct he didn't tell Boss lady where he was going.

Guess we could use the characters names but what fun would that be

The subject was Westin and nothing I said fit what Bacon did, so I thought the identity of "he" was pretty easy to follow.

It was. She did tell him to follow but then he didnt tell her where they were going. So I contend your initial point was correct.

 

[joffer]

Starting to get too much like post-season-four of 24. It's losing me.

 

[Tony Jabroni]

Why am I attracted to the lesbianesque babysitter?

 

[Sarnoff]

Why am I attracted to the lesbianesque babysitter?

Whew, so I'm not the only one. Thank you. I mean, she creeps me out, but, I'd still want to nail her.

 

[VA703]

Why am I attracted to the lesbianesque babysitter?

Whew, so I'm not the only one. Thank you. I mean, she creeps me out, but, I'd still want to nail her.

shes the type that you just lay back and she spins like a dradle

 

[snogger]

Why am I attracted to the lesbianesque babysitter?

Whew, so I'm not the only one. Thank you. I mean, she creeps me out, but, I'd still want to nail her.

shes the type that you just lay back and she spins like a dradle

When they did the flashback and showed her with long hair.. Now, with the short hair.. well.. There is a reason the two "pretend" lovers have decided to be bring her into a 3 way...

 

[jamny]

The twist you're all looking for is the young FBI agent, Mike Weston.He's obviously in on it.I told my son after the second episode. Then in the third, when Bacon left him with the bleeding black FBI agent...I said, damn...dude is DEFINITELY gonna be dead when Bacon gets back.Book it.

The dude took a good size knife to the hilt right in the throat, anyone short of Jesus wasn't going to be able to save him. However, that doesn't mean Iceman isn't a follower. I'm sure they'll be playing up the possibility of anyone being a follower and there'll be clues left that point to every main character. But that instance doesn't seem like one of those times.

This last episode pretty much proves the guy is the twist.He makes sure he goes with Bacon to save his sister. My son and I were both saying, "Watch...he'll come in and save Bacon by killing the girl killer and end up looking like a good guy...when it's really to make sure she doesn't kill Bacon, because that's what Joe wants...she went off book."

Interesting.We kept wondering where the hell his partner was while all that was going on. Had to be at least 20 minutes.

 

[stbugs]

The twist you're all looking for is the young FBI agent, Mike Weston.He's obviously in on it.I told my son after the second episode. Then in the third, when Bacon left him with the bleeding black FBI agent...I said, damn...dude is DEFINITELY gonna be dead when Bacon gets back.Book it.

The dude took a good size knife to the hilt right in the throat, anyone short of Jesus wasn't going to be able to save him. However, that doesn't mean Iceman isn't a follower. I'm sure they'll be playing up the possibility of anyone being a follower and there'll be clues left that point to every main character. But that instance doesn't seem like one of those times.

This last episode pretty much proves the guy is the twist.He makes sure he goes with Bacon to save his sister. My son and I were both saying, "Watch...he'll come in and save Bacon by killing the girl killer and end up looking like a good guy...when it's really to make sure she doesn't kill Bacon, because that's what Joe wants...she went off book."

Interesting.We kept wondering where the hell his partner was while all that was going on. Had to be at least 20 minutes.

I was thinking the same thing, where the hell is he, but I think that is the "TV Magic" that they use. It wouldn't be fun if he just came in and capped Maggie right away. We need the time to slow the heart all the way down and have Maggie tell her story and tell Bacon she was going to kill his sister. Maggie also had to cutoff the restraints on Bacon to show him that he still couldn't help his sister even without restraints.I don't think Jinks is in on it and unfortunately, he was late more due to the script and show. I wouldn't read anything into that as that was just for the show.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

This doesn't seem very good, runaway plot.

 

[Mentos]

This doesn't seem very good, runaway plot.

It gets more ridiculous each week.

 

[peaces]

My wife liked the show but she is out after one episode as she can't handle the violence. I'm pretty sure in the season scenes they showed one of the fake gay guys making out with the nanny who has shorter hair than me.I've never understood the fascination with viewers wondering if something they see on TV could happen in real life, I watch this type of stuff as an escape from reality and find it much more enjoyable to suspend disbelief.

I'm all for suspending belief, but there is degrees of suspension of belief I am willing to take and others that just go to far. The Following is pushing it, IMO...that's all. I'm really into Serial Killers and have been for years so I'm willing to take the ride at this point. We'll see...

I don't get what is being pushed? What is so unbelievable that we can't find an example of it? Pretty sure all serial killers in jail have had people who visit them a lot and in some cases women have married (or become engaged, not sure if the marriage is technically possible/just reported that way). We have had tons of cults where people have done all kinds of stupid things from giving up normal lives to pan handle all the way to mass suicides for a leader, whom some may say isn't much different from a serial killer.

I just think creating a cult from behind prision walls using a computer is pushing it. Not saying it is totally bat####crazy off the wall, but it is pushing what I consider acceptable suspension of belief

This has gone on long enough.It's called "suspension of disbelief", not "suspension of belief."

I call BS

 

[Dan Lambskin]

Worst cop everI'm really supposed to believe he doesn't put a bullet in that guy?

 

[Wyld Stallyns]

I'm out. What a waste of a Kevin Bacon.

 

[joffer]

Yeah this is 24 all over againThe DUMBEST law enforcement officials in the freaking universe

 

[Sarnoff]

Yeah this is 24 all over againThe DUMBEST law enforcement officials in the freaking universe

I still say they're better than Miami Metro on "Dexter"

 

[bushdocda]

Out.

 

[Dan Lambskin]

I want to see if it can get worse than Vanished

 

[shadyridr]

I like it but i agree the law enforcement stupidity is a bit much

 

[mad sweeney]

I like it but i agree the law enforcement stupidity is a bit much

I still like it as well, but the stupid cops have got to go. On the search for a missing child in the grips of an unknown number of mass murderers? Meh, we'll just each take one local cop with us while we search for the house with no back up. There'll be a point where the stupidity overcomes the enjoyment of it, but I like it stylistically and I like Joe's character so I'm ok with letting a lot go.

 

[[icon]]

It's losing me....

 

[snogger]

I like it but i agree the law enforcement stupidity is a bit much

I still like it as well, but the stupid cops have got to go. On the search for a missing child in the grips of an unknown number of mass murderers? Meh, we'll just each take one local cop with us while we search for the house with no back up. There'll be a point where the stupidity overcomes the enjoyment of it, but I like it stylistically and I like Joe's character so I'm ok with letting a lot go.

Didn't seem like there were a lot of cops to choose from.. Small area, with Farms spread out over a large area. Add in the fact the Debra( Head FBI lady) only allowed Ryan & Mike to head there after Ryan insisted as she didn't think there was enough evidence to go on and you have a bad situation.Saying that.. When there are only two of you on Recon waiting for backup, you never split up!

The second Ryan left I told my daughter.. Well the cops dead.. Way to obvious that he was going down. The way he went down was, as stated above was, "24 bad"..

Hey, this guy who i don't know is walking towards me.. I know there are kidnappers here.. But I'll just keep yelling and hope he stops getting close..

Other Nit picking.. I know Ryan wants to save Joey.. But you see they are packing a car, the only backup you have is dead and you still wander into the basement of the house??

saying that.. I lived through the moments on 24 when it came to stupid law enforcement people, and I'm enjoying the story line so still in.

 

[brady666]

I like it but i agree the law enforcement stupidity is a bit much

I still like it as well, but the stupid cops have got to go. On the search for a missing child in the grips of an unknown number of mass murderers? Meh, we'll just each take one local cop with us while we search for the house with no back up. There'll be a point where the stupidity overcomes the enjoyment of it, but I like it stylistically and I like Joe's character so I'm ok with letting a lot go.

Didn't seem like there were a lot of cops to choose from.. Small area, with Farms spread out over a large area. Add in the fact the Debra( Head FBI lady) only allowed Ryan & Mike to head there after Ryan insisted as she didn't think there was enough evidence to go on and you have a bad situation.Saying that.. When there are only two of you on Recon waiting for backup, you never split up!

The second Ryan left I told my daughter.. Well the cops dead.. Way to obvious that he was going down. The way he went down was, as stated above was, "24 bad"..

Hey, this guy who i don't know is walking towards me.. I know there are kidnappers here.. But I'll just keep yelling and hope he stops getting close..

Other Nit picking.. I know Ryan wants to save Joey.. But you see they are packing a car, the only backup you have is dead and you still wander into the basement of the house??

saying that.. I lived through the moments on 24 when it came to stupid law enforcement people, and I'm enjoying the story line so still in.

The cop with Ryan should have had a red star trek shirt on. It was that obvious that he was going to get it!

 

[Spin]

I like it but i agree the law enforcement stupidity is a bit much

I still like it as well, but the stupid cops have got to go. On the search for a missing child in the grips of an unknown number of mass murderers? Meh, we'll just each take one local cop with us while we search for the house with no back up. There'll be a point where the stupidity overcomes the enjoyment of it, but I like it stylistically and I like Joe's character so I'm ok with letting a lot go.

Didn't seem like there were a lot of cops to choose from.. Small area, with Farms spread out over a large area. Add in the fact the Debra( Head FBI lady) only allowed Ryan & Mike to head there after Ryan insisted as she didn't think there was enough evidence to go on and you have a bad situation.Saying that.. When there are only two of you on Recon waiting for backup, you never split up!

The second Ryan left I told my daughter.. Well the cops dead.. Way to obvious that he was going down. The way he went down was, as stated above was, "24 bad"..

Hey, this guy who i don't know is walking towards me.. I know there are kidnappers here.. But I'll just keep yelling and hope he stops getting close..

Other Nit picking.. I know Ryan wants to save Joey.. But you see they are packing a car, the only backup you have is dead and you still wander into the basement of the house??

saying that.. I lived through the moments on 24 when it came to stupid law enforcement people, and I'm enjoying the story line so still in.

The cop with Ryan should have had a red star trek shirt on. It was that obvious that he was going to get it!

I suppose I'll continue to watch it as I'm more interested in who all is a member. The scene at the house was so predictable. The guy who cut the lawyer's fingers off, shows up at the house with a bunch of assault rifles, sees the cop, opens the bag of rifles, but yet approaches without a weapon? Why? I thought for sure the cop was going to die, but I figured he'd just get shot. The whole "slowly approaching the cop while his gun is drawn and then hoping to overpower him" is stupid. He obviously wasn't trying to be discrete, he shot him and was planning on shooting him again. Why not just grab your rifle and take care of it from the get go. I'm already annoyed with the gay guy who isn't a killer line. I figured they were trading the Kid for the Mom, and it seems that's where it is headed now. The standoff in the house looks dumb from the previews. No way any of them get out. I just wonder how long they drag this out, hoping it's not a 2-3 episode stand off. I assume all of the followers die, and the girl who was kidnapped by the jealous guy. Could they actually kill off the kid?

I originally thought that Iceman was in on it, but now I'm not so sure. There has to be at least one FBI member in on it, and the director is too obvious when she gave the book to him, so I assumed it would be Iceman.

Overall I enjoyed the first two episodes way more then the last few, but I'll probably watch the season just to see the ending. Stupid LOST all over again :(

 

[jamny]

I like it but i agree the law enforcement stupidity is a bit much

I still like it as well, but the stupid cops have got to go. On the search for a missing child in the grips of an unknown number of mass murderers? Meh, we'll just each take one local cop with us while we search for the house with no back up. There'll be a point where the stupidity overcomes the enjoyment of it, but I like it stylistically and I like Joe's character so I'm ok with letting a lot go.

Some shows are just fun to watch and get some laughs over the stupidity of the situations. We made it through the whole run of 24 but it was tough by the end because there was so much repetition. It's an interesting story and I'll stick with it as long as it's a fun ride and they continue to mix things up.

 

[Jayrok]

The twist you're all looking for is the young FBI agent, Mike Weston.

He's obviously in on it.

I told my son after the second episode. Then in the third, when Bacon left him with the bleeding black FBI agent...I said, damn...dude is DEFINITELY gonna be dead when Bacon gets back.

Book it.

We said that a couple of weeks ago too. But I hope not because it seems way too obvious. I would rather it be Joe's wife where at the end of the season she knifes Bacon's character while they hug after he thinks it is all over. Much like Law Abiding Citizen, I was very disappointed when Jamie Fox's character won out. I was really pulling for G. Butler's villian. Why can't Carroll win this one and leave the viewers wondering what else he has in store?

 

[stbugs]

It's losing me....

Agreed. So many really bad parts.1. The cop has to shoot if the guy won't stop. What random farmer wouldn't stop so he doesn't get accidentally shot. That and seeing the cop in the mirror, geez. Aren't most left hand mirror tilted like this / so you can see what is behind you. They aren't like this - so a guy in the back of the vehicle can see what is moving directly behind him. Now that I think about it, the mirror's angle is so wrong for where the guy was to see someone behind him. The only thing the bad guy should have seen is the side of the car.2. The lawyer agreeing to do more for Joe is silly. He threatened her before, now she is in an FBI office. Does she think she is safer outside of the office doing his bidding? Why not just tell the FBI exactly what he said about the location for the drop. The lawyer was beyond stupid. I thought for a minute that Joe had a parent/family member of hers, but he just cut off some fingers. Yes, that sucks, but you are going to do his bidding and end up in jail as an accomplice instead of being safe with the FBI and telling them what you know.3. The ex-wife was even more stupid. Hardy is going to where they think your son is, yet you get in a car with a cult member? Didn't Joe just try to kill you in prison and send a serial killer to your house to kill you? You are going to trust him that he will let you see your son? What do you think he will do if he let's you see him, let you both go? Oh, and let me make sure that the FBI, who is protecting me, doesn't know where I am going.4. The old couple sees a serial killer and a kidnapped boy and doesn't lock the door and/or get your guns out? They get killed by a guy who picks up a hoe? What old, white farmer in farmland doesn't have a shotgun handy? Any reason not a single other cop is driving to the farm house where they made the 911 call? We have to wait 10 minutes for the one with the FBI agent. Neither of the two cops out where the sheriff, so had to at least be a couple more that should have been ready to roll after seeing the most wanted people in the US in a convenience store.

 

[jamny]

It's losing me....

Agreed. So many really bad parts.1. The cop has to shoot if the guy won't stop. What random farmer wouldn't stop so he doesn't get accidentally shot. That and seeing the cop in the mirror, geez. Aren't most left hand mirror tilted like this / so you can see what is behind you. They aren't like this - so a guy in the back of the vehicle can see what is moving directly behind him. Now that I think about it, the mirror's angle is so wrong for where the guy was to see someone behind him. The only thing the bad guy should have seen is the side of the car.2. The lawyer agreeing to do more for Joe is silly. He threatened her before, now she is in an FBI office. Does she think she is safer outside of the office doing his bidding? Why not just tell the FBI exactly what he said about the location for the drop. The lawyer was beyond stupid. I thought for a minute that Joe had a parent/family member of hers, but he just cut off some fingers. Yes, that sucks, but you are going to do his bidding and end up in jail as an accomplice instead of being safe with the FBI and telling them what you know.3. The ex-wife was even more stupid. Hardy is going to where they think your son is, yet you get in a car with a cult member? Didn't Joe just try to kill you in prison and send a serial killer to your house to kill you? You are going to trust him that he will let you see your son? What do you think he will do if he let's you see him, let you both go? Oh, and let me make sure that the FBI, who is protecting me, doesn't know where I am going.4. The old couple sees a serial killer and a kidnapped boy and doesn't lock the door and/or get your guns out? They get killed by a guy who picks up a hoe? What old, white farmer in farmland doesn't have a shotgun handy? Any reason not a single other cop is driving to the farm house where they made the 911 call? We have to wait 10 minutes for the one with the FBI agent. Neither of the two cops out where the sheriff, so had to at least be a couple more that should have been ready to roll after seeing the most wanted people in the US in a convenience store.

Great points. All except for the mirror thing were what we were saying as the show was on. Definitely thought they had one of the lawyers family members hostage. No one could be shocked when she revealed she lost fingers. Hardly a reason to give in to Joe's demands.also, the black FBI guy would have locked himself out of the restaurant when he went out the back door. still watching though. Like I said, it's good for a laugh but is interesting enough to keep with it.

 

[stbugs]

I like it but i agree the law enforcement stupidity is a bit much

I still like it as well, but the stupid cops have got to go. On the search for a missing child in the grips of an unknown number of mass murderers? Meh, we'll just each take one local cop with us while we search for the house with no back up. There'll be a point where the stupidity overcomes the enjoyment of it, but I like it stylistically and I like Joe's character so I'm ok with letting a lot go.

Some shows are just fun to watch and get some laughs over the stupidity of the situations. We made it through the whole run of 24 but it was tough by the end because there was so much repetition. It's an interesting story and I'll stick with it as long as it's a fun ride and they continue to mix things up.

I agree that it can be fun to watch, but the first few shows were not like this week. I was thoroughly enjoying the show and you can see in this thread that I was cool with some of the hard to believe things like the cult from within the prison, but watching characters act like they have no brain really ruins things. I am fine with believing that there are plenty of cult members to come out of the woodwork whenever Joe needs it, but for the mom, after two attempts on her life, to get in a car with a cult member, that just ruins the show. Heck, I'm even fine with redshirts getting whacked left and right, just don't remove the brains of the key characters.

 

[snogger]

It's losing me....

Agreed. So many really bad parts.1. The cop has to shoot if the guy won't stop. What random farmer wouldn't stop so he doesn't get accidentally shot. That and seeing the cop in the mirror, geez. Aren't most left hand mirror tilted like this / so you can see what is behind you. They aren't like this - so a guy in the back of the vehicle can see what is moving directly behind him. Now that I think about it, the mirror's angle is so wrong for where the guy was to see someone behind him. The only thing the bad guy should have seen is the side of the car.

2. The lawyer agreeing to do more for Joe is silly. He threatened her before, now she is in an FBI office. Does she think she is safer outside of the office doing his bidding? Why not just tell the FBI exactly what he said about the location for the drop. The lawyer was beyond stupid. I thought for a minute that Joe had a parent/family member of hers, but he just cut off some fingers. Yes, that sucks, but you are going to do his bidding and end up in jail as an accomplice instead of being safe with the FBI and telling them what you know.

3. The ex-wife was even more stupid. Hardy is going to where they think your son is, yet you get in a car with a cult member? Didn't Joe just try to kill you in prison and send a serial killer to your house to kill you? You are going to trust him that he will let you see your son? What do you think he will do if he let's you see him, let you both go? Oh, and let me make sure that the FBI, who is protecting me, doesn't know where I am going.

4. The old couple sees a serial killer and a kidnapped boy and doesn't lock the door and/or get your guns out? They get killed by a guy who picks up a hoe? What old, white farmer in farmland doesn't have a shotgun handy? Any reason not a single other cop is driving to the farm house where they made the 911 call? We have to wait 10 minutes for the one with the FBI agent. Neither of the two cops out where the sheriff, so had to at least be a couple more that should have been ready to roll after seeing the most wanted people in the US in a convenience store.

Great points. All except for the mirror thing were what we were saying as the show was on. Definitely thought they had one of the lawyers family members hostage. No one could be shocked when she revealed she lost fingers. Hardly a reason to give in to Joe's demands.also, the black FBI guy would have locked himself out of the restaurant when he went out the back door.

still watching though. Like I said, it's good for a laugh but is interesting enough to keep with it.

By sending someone else to cut her fingers off he was letting her know that he had others that would his bidding for him if she didn't follow through..

 

[stbugs]

It's losing me....

Agreed. So many really bad parts.1. The cop has to shoot if the guy won't stop. What random farmer wouldn't stop so he doesn't get accidentally shot. That and seeing the cop in the mirror, geez. Aren't most left hand mirror tilted like this / so you can see what is behind you. They aren't like this - so a guy in the back of the vehicle can see what is moving directly behind him. Now that I think about it, the mirror's angle is so wrong for where the guy was to see someone behind him. The only thing the bad guy should have seen is the side of the car.

2. The lawyer agreeing to do more for Joe is silly. He threatened her before, now she is in an FBI office. Does she think she is safer outside of the office doing his bidding? Why not just tell the FBI exactly what he said about the location for the drop. The lawyer was beyond stupid. I thought for a minute that Joe had a parent/family member of hers, but he just cut off some fingers. Yes, that sucks, but you are going to do his bidding and end up in jail as an accomplice instead of being safe with the FBI and telling them what you know.

3. The ex-wife was even more stupid. Hardy is going to where they think your son is, yet you get in a car with a cult member? Didn't Joe just try to kill you in prison and send a serial killer to your house to kill you? You are going to trust him that he will let you see your son? What do you think he will do if he let's you see him, let you both go? Oh, and let me make sure that the FBI, who is protecting me, doesn't know where I am going.

4. The old couple sees a serial killer and a kidnapped boy and doesn't lock the door and/or get your guns out? They get killed by a guy who picks up a hoe? What old, white farmer in farmland doesn't have a shotgun handy? Any reason not a single other cop is driving to the farm house where they made the 911 call? We have to wait 10 minutes for the one with the FBI agent. Neither of the two cops out where the sheriff, so had to at least be a couple more that should have been ready to roll after seeing the most wanted people in the US in a convenience store.

Great points. All except for the mirror thing were what we were saying as the show was on. Definitely thought they had one of the lawyers family members hostage. No one could be shocked when she revealed she lost fingers. Hardly a reason to give in to Joe's demands.also, the black FBI guy would have locked himself out of the restaurant when he went out the back door.

still watching though. Like I said, it's good for a laugh but is interesting enough to keep with it.

By sending someone else to cut her fingers off he was letting her know that he had others that would his bidding for him if she didn't follow through..

Right and like the ex-wife, why trust him now? Your best bet for survival is to tell the FBI, get protection and wait until this is over. Give them the information you get from Joe and don't talk to Joe again.

 

[shadyridr]

Its like any typical horror movie cliche. The characters are dumb. Seems pretty standard fare to me