***OFFICIAL 'The Following' TV Series Thread*** (1 Viewer)

[stbugs]

whoever has the keys to the GG alias needs to give them up. The last several efforts have been really weak

I'm laughing because every one of my last posts has ended up as the first post on the last page because of all the deleted posts by the GG alias.

 

[snogger]

Gekko, did you really delete your last two posts? Hysterical when people post bad stuff and then delete it.

Whew.. thought my browser went as I was trying to find the posts you replied to.. then I started wondering .... did Gekko do something at some point to become the only poster I've ever blocked

 

[shuke]

Everyone's in on it except Ryan.

 

[Statorama]

Think about how good this show could have been if Carroll created this network of serial killers all over the country and we had a nationwide panic and the FBI was in charge of stopping them and it had none of the silly stuff we have seen so far. How hard is it for TV people to think of something like that?

I'd watch this.It would also lend itself to better encapsulating each episode as it's own open/close hour of television.

 

[shadyridr]

Everyone's in on it except Ryan.

Ryan IS roderick

 

[Jayrok]

Everyone's in on it except Ryan.

And Joey is the brains and financial source behind the entire outfit.

 

[shadyridr]

Honestly, I dont get the complaints here. The show is what it is... a mindless, action show. If you dont like it now, its not gonna get any better so stop watching. It entertains me for the hour I watch it and then I move on. I dont think about it the rest of the week like some other shows.

 

[stbugs]

Honestly, I dont get the complaints here. The show is what it is... a mindless, action show. If you dont like it now, its not gonna get any better so stop watching. It entertains me for the hour I watch it and then I move on. I dont think about it the rest of the week like some other shows.

My complaints are more that the show started well and has gotten silly. Carroll has what a hundred followers? OK, I can buy that, even though I think we would have a few more cult deaths and less working together well, but easy enough to suspend disbelief. What gets annoying is the ridiculousness of the timing. They find out Carroll is with the lawyer pretty quickly, have a helicopter, yet they can't get anyone close to help Hardy. Even his partner is nowhere close. There is a security guard who sees it, but of course Carroll planned for that and has a follower trail 22.4 seconds behind him at all times. Carroll even anticipated the door Hardy would go through and waited there for him. He is psychic.That said, the most wanted serial killer who has been on the news for weeks (he escaped a couple weeks before and killed again) is not recognized by anyone in a freaking mall, while he is completely unarmed? Even the people who saw him kill the lawyer just called him a guy.Also, don't get me going on the stupidity of the lawyer who still hasn't gone to the FBI and gotten protection from Carroll. This part of the story line and the ex-wife that seems to trust Carroll/his followers more than the FBI are so bad, but at least one is gone.That said, I will keep watching and I hope the show gets back to the beginning scary stuff that seemed to be going well in the first few episodes.

 

[snogger]

Honestly, I dont get the complaints here. The show is what it is... a mindless, action show. If you dont like it now, its not gonna get any better so stop watching. It entertains me for the hour I watch it and then I move on. I dont think about it the rest of the week like some other shows.

I like it enough that I'll keep watching.. last weeks complaints were warranted.. Too much "perfection" in the escape that, even for me who loves action films and shows, I was this weeks episode was much better than lasts weeks..

 

[snogger]

Honestly, I dont get the complaints here. The show is what it is... a mindless, action show. If you dont like it now, its not gonna get any better so stop watching. It entertains me for the hour I watch it and then I move on. I dont think about it the rest of the week like some other shows.

My complaints are more that the show started well and has gotten silly. Carroll has what a hundred followers? OK, I can buy that, even though I think we would have a few more cult deaths and less working together well, but easy enough to suspend disbelief. What gets annoying is the ridiculousness of the timing. They find out Carroll is with the lawyer pretty quickly, have a helicopter, yet they can't get anyone close to help Hardy. Even his partner is nowhere close. There is a security guard who sees it, but of course Carroll planned for that and has a follower trail 22.4 seconds behind him at all times. Carroll even anticipated the door Hardy would go through and waited there for him. He is psychic.That said, the most wanted serial killer who has been on the news for weeks (he escaped a couple weeks before and killed again) is not recognized by anyone in a freaking mall, while he is completely unarmed? Even the people who saw him kill the lawyer just called him a guy.

Also, don't get me going on the stupidity of the lawyer who still hasn't gone to the FBI and gotten protection from Carroll. This part of the story line and the ex-wife that seems to trust Carroll/his followers more than the FBI are so bad, but at least one is gone.

That said, I will keep watching and I hope the show gets back to the beginning scary stuff that seemed to be going well in the first few episodes.

The bold part is not very confusing and is, IMO, Nitpicking for the sake of nitpicking.Carrol takes the elevator, there is no other staircase or Elevator so of course anyone chasing him is going to use the stairwell. so if you are trying to escape, you'd of course try to prevent anyone from running up the stairs.

 

[Jayrok]

Honestly, I dont get the complaints here. The show is what it is... a mindless, action show. If you dont like it now, its not gonna get any better so stop watching. It entertains me for the hour I watch it and then I move on. I dont think about it the rest of the week like some other shows.

That and the fact that nothing else is on Monday nights will keep me watching to see how it ends. I did the same thing with "The Firm" that was on for awhile.

 

[NCCommish]

Honestly, I dont get the complaints here. The show is what it is... a mindless, action show. If you dont like it now, its not gonna get any better so stop watching. It entertains me for the hour I watch it and then I move on. I dont think about it the rest of the week like some other shows.

The thing is it was supposedly going to be more than that. It hasn't lived up to the hype and it doesn't even do serial killers as well as Criminal Minds which is a completely formulaic procedural. Which I also enjoy watching despite it being formula driven. But it was never touted as more than what it is. This was.

 

[Jayrok]

Honestly, I dont get the complaints here. The show is what it is... a mindless, action show. If you dont like it now, its not gonna get any better so stop watching. It entertains me for the hour I watch it and then I move on. I dont think about it the rest of the week like some other shows.

The thing is it was supposedly going to be more than that. It hasn't lived up to the hype and it doesn't even do serial killers as well as Criminal Minds which is a completely formulaic procedural. Which I also enjoy watching despite it being formula driven. But it was never touted as more than what it is. This was.

Yes, but have we figured out who GGekko is yet?

 

[NCCommish]

Honestly, I dont get the complaints here. The show is what it is... a mindless, action show. If you dont like it now, its not gonna get any better so stop watching. It entertains me for the hour I watch it and then I move on. I dont think about it the rest of the week like some other shows.

The thing is it was supposedly going to be more than that. It hasn't lived up to the hype and it doesn't even do serial killers as well as Criminal Minds which is a completely formulaic procedural. Which I also enjoy watching despite it being formula driven. But it was never touted as more than what it is. This was.

Yes, but have we figured out who GGekko is yet?

Apparently he is many.

 

[Jayrok]

Honestly, I dont get the complaints here. The show is what it is... a mindless, action show. If you dont like it now, its not gonna get any better so stop watching. It entertains me for the hour I watch it and then I move on. I dont think about it the rest of the week like some other shows.

The thing is it was supposedly going to be more than that. It hasn't lived up to the hype and it doesn't even do serial killers as well as Criminal Minds which is a completely formulaic procedural. Which I also enjoy watching despite it being formula driven. But it was never touted as more than what it is. This was.

Yes, but have we figured out who GGekko is yet?

Apparently he is many.

Money never sleeps I guess.

 

[NCCommish]

Honestly, I dont get the complaints here. The show is what it is... a mindless, action show. If you dont like it now, its not gonna get any better so stop watching. It entertains me for the hour I watch it and then I move on. I dont think about it the rest of the week like some other shows.

The thing is it was supposedly going to be more than that. It hasn't lived up to the hype and it doesn't even do serial killers as well as Criminal Minds which is a completely formulaic procedural. Which I also enjoy watching despite it being formula driven. But it was never touted as more than what it is. This was.

Yes, but have we figured out who GGekko is yet?

Apparently he is many.

Money never sleeps I guess.

True

 

[shadyridr]

Honestly, I dont get the complaints here. The show is what it is... a mindless, action show. If you dont like it now, its not gonna get any better so stop watching. It entertains me for the hour I watch it and then I move on. I dont think about it the rest of the week like some other shows.

The thing is it was supposedly going to be more than that.

It hasn't lived up to the hype and it doesn't even do serial killers as well as Criminal Minds which is a completely formulaic procedural. Which I also enjoy watching despite it being formula driven. But it was never touted as more than what it is. This was.

Says who?

 

[NCCommish]

Honestly, I dont get the complaints here. The show is what it is... a mindless, action show. If you dont like it now, its not gonna get any better so stop watching. It entertains me for the hour I watch it and then I move on. I dont think about it the rest of the week like some other shows.

The thing is it was supposedly going to be more than that.

It hasn't lived up to the hype and it doesn't even do serial killers as well as Criminal Minds which is a completely formulaic procedural. Which I also enjoy watching despite it being formula driven. But it was never touted as more than what it is. This was.

Says who?

Said everyone. All the buzz was about how this was going to be a ground breaking show, nothing like it on broadcast television, etc.

 

[wikkidpissah]

Honestly, I dont get the complaints here. The show is what it is... a mindless, action show. If you dont like it now, its not gonna get any better so stop watching. It entertains me for the hour I watch it and then I move on. I dont think about it the rest of the week like some other shows.

The thing is it was supposedly going to be more than that. It hasn't lived up to the hype and it doesn't even do serial killers as well as Criminal Minds which is a completely formulaic procedural. Which I also enjoy watching despite it being formula driven. But it was never touted as more than what it is. This was.

Yes, but have we figured out who GGekko is yet?

Apparently he is many.

he is the wind

 

[shadyridr]

So Im assuming Rodrick is gonna be some big reveal?

 

[stbugs]

Honestly, I dont get the complaints here. The show is what it is... a mindless, action show. If you dont like it now, its not gonna get any better so stop watching. It entertains me for the hour I watch it and then I move on. I dont think about it the rest of the week like some other shows.

The thing is it was supposedly going to be more than that.

It hasn't lived up to the hype and it doesn't even do serial killers as well as Criminal Minds which is a completely formulaic procedural. Which I also enjoy watching despite it being formula driven. But it was never touted as more than what it is. This was.

Says who?

Said everyone. All the buzz was about how this was going to be a ground breaking show, nothing like it on broadcast television, etc.

I like a good mindless action show, but I agree with NCC that this wasn't supposed to be a 24 with some twists and turns, but at its core a simple thriller. The show started off so well. After seeing the past few shows, what the heck does Poe have to do with anything? Why did that lady follower kill herself week 1 with all the writing on her? It has completely gone away from a cult of followers that the FBI would have to decode and figure out into a simple crime show chasing after people and just slipping through the net.

 

[stbugs]

So Im assuming Rodrick is gonna be some big reveal?

I guess, I can't even remember all the names anymore. Who is the army dude that had Claire and who were the guys (one died) that helped the nanny escape?I guess I am nitpicking again, but has anyone noticed that we seem to have gone away from the psycopathic serial killers to a group of mercenaries? I liked the followers better when they were flawed disturbed people instead of special OPs people.

 

[shadyridr]

So Im assuming Rodrick is gonna be some big reveal?

I guess, I can't even remember all the names anymore. Who is the army dude that had Claire and who were the guys (one died) that helped the nanny escape?I guess I am nitpicking again, but has anyone noticed that we seem to have gone away from the psycopathic serial killers to a group of mercenaries? I liked the followers better when they were flawed disturbed people instead of special OPs people.

agreed

 

[stbugs]

So Im assuming Rodrick is gonna be some big reveal?

I guess, I can't even remember all the names anymore. Who is the army dude that had Claire and who were the guys (one died) that helped the nanny escape?I guess I am nitpicking again, but has anyone noticed that we seem to have gone away from the psycopathic serial killers to a group of mercenaries? I liked the followers better when they were flawed disturbed people instead of special OPs people.

agreed

See, now you understand our complaints. It isn't that I hate the show, just a little disappointed that it actually started so well. I remember my wife saying in the first couple episodes that my wife said she wouldn't watch the show without me and that it was actually a bit scary (in a good, fun way to watch a show). I used to like Poe and I love watching scary shows. I hate to say it, but I miss ninja fat guy serial killer. He was a huge upgrade over the now trained serial killers who seem to have no character. That said, I do like the guy who was watching Claire sleep a bit. He seems like a Dexter type, i.e. seems to care about people in his weird way.

Unfortunately, I don't think we will get back to that, but maybe they will surprise us. The blonde with the razor reminds me of that awful lady in Die Hard2 who was cartoonish instead of cool.

 

[snogger]

So Im assuming Rodrick is gonna be some big reveal?

I guess, I can't even remember all the names anymore. Who is the army dude that had Claire and who were the guys (one died) that helped the nanny escape?I guess I am nitpicking again, but has anyone noticed that we seem to have gone away from the psycopathic serial killers to a group of mercenaries? I liked the followers better when they were flawed disturbed people instead of special OPs people.

They seemed to explain in this last episode that there are "The Followers".. and those that are disturbed enough to carry out their needs, without bringing them into the "The Followers" Group.The Mechanic was a "Use and kill". In it for the Money and "fun" but never would be a "Follower". So they used him to kidnap the Warden's Daughter.. If she escapes and he gets caught, he knows nothing about the group.Many of the Followers are sort of in the same spot.. They know just enough of the plans to get to the next step. But once the step has been completed they don't know anything else that follows.The cop who committed suicide by swallowing bandages was an example of that type of Follower.. He knew enough to be dangerous, but not enough to give the whole "story" away.

 

[shadyridr]

So Im assuming Rodrick is gonna be some big reveal?

I guess, I can't even remember all the names anymore. Who is the army dude that had Claire and who were the guys (one died) that helped the nanny escape?I guess I am nitpicking again, but has anyone noticed that we seem to have gone away from the psycopathic serial killers to a group of mercenaries? I liked the followers better when they were flawed disturbed people instead of special OPs people.

agreed

See, now you understand our complaints. It isn't that I hate the show, just a little disappointed that it actually started so well. I remember my wife saying in the first couple episodes that my wife said she wouldn't watch the show without me and that it was actually a bit scary (in a good, fun way to watch a show). I used to like Poe and I love watching scary shows. I hate to say it, but I miss ninja fat guy serial killer. He was a huge upgrade over the now trained serial killers who seem to have no character. That said, I do like the guy who was watching Claire sleep a bit. He seems like a Dexter type, i.e. seems to care about people in his weird way.

Unfortunately, I don't think we will get back to that, but maybe they will surprise us. The blonde with the razor reminds me of that awful lady in Die Hard2 who was cartoonish instead of cool.

It just gets tiresome reading a string of posts in this thread after every show "Im done" "Im out" "This is a bit much now" "this show is ridiculous now" etc.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

whoever has the keys to the GG alias needs to give them up. The last several efforts have been really weak

Been terrible for three+ years now, where you guys been?

 

[Worm]

So, FBI chick is bad, yes?

 

[apalmer]

So, FBI chick is bad, yes?

Nah, she's going to be the one who finally decides to kill the cult by cutting off its head.

 

[toshiba]

So, FBI chick is bad, yes?

Nah, she's going to be the one who finally decides to kill the cult by cutting off its head.

Ryan

 

[Plorfu]

Also, don't get me going on the stupidity of the lawyer who still hasn't gone to the FBI and gotten protection from Carroll.

Too dangerous. Most of the FBI is in on it.

 

[southeastjerome]

This may have already been brought up, but why on earth would Carroll's lawyer go to such great lengths to do all this stuff for him? I know there was a scene where she basically was blowing him off. What does he have over her for her to have done all of this stuff??

 

[shadyridr]

This may have already been brought up, but why on earth would Carroll's lawyer go to such great lengths to do all this stuff for him? I know there was a scene where she basically was blowing him off. What does he have over her for her to have done all of this stuff??

One of his followers chopped her fingers off. She was scared ####less with good reason

 

[southeastjerome]

This may have already been brought up, but why on earth would Carroll's lawyer go to such great lengths to do all this stuff for him? I know there was a scene where she basically was blowing him off. What does he have over her for her to have done all of this stuff??

One of his followers chopped her fingers off. She was scared ####less with good reason

Thanks. I remember that now (actually watched that ep from hospital bed), but she is surrounded by law men and FBI dudes. She is a lawyer so presumably intelligent, she is willing to risk get a serial killer out of jail and not tell any of the authorities? Worst character ever. Seriously, there is no way that should would have gotten away with it. If it were me, I'd roll the dice and go against the psychopath and put my money on Ryan.

 

[shadyridr]

This may have already been brought up, but why on earth would Carroll's lawyer go to such great lengths to do all this stuff for him? I know there was a scene where she basically was blowing him off. What does he have over her for her to have done all of this stuff??

One of his followers chopped her fingers off. She was scared ####less with good reason

Thanks. I remember that now (actually watched that ep from hospital bed), but she is surrounded by law men and FBI dudes. She is a lawyer so presumably intelligent, she is willing to risk get a serial killer out of jail and not tell any of the authorities? Worst character ever. Seriously, there is no way that should would have gotten away with it. If it were me, I'd roll the dice and go against the psychopath and put my money on Ryan.

1. People do stupid things on this show 2. There have already been followers in law enforcement

 

[southeastjerome]

This may have already been brought up, but why on earth would Carroll's lawyer go to such great lengths to do all this stuff for him? I know there was a scene where she basically was blowing him off. What does he have over her for her to have done all of this stuff??

One of his followers chopped her fingers off. She was scared ####less with good reason

Thanks. I remember that now (actually watched that ep from hospital bed), but she is surrounded by law men and FBI dudes. She is a lawyer so presumably intelligent, she is willing to risk get a serial killer out of jail and not tell any of the authorities? Worst character ever. Seriously, there is no way that should would have gotten away with it. If it were me, I'd roll the dice and go against the psychopath and put my money on Ryan.

1. People do stupid things on this show 2. There have already been followers in law enforcement

Yeah, I get that, but for some reason she just sticks out as being overall horrible, imo. So she is facing certain jail time rather than going to someone she knows and trusts. She is a defense attorney, I'm sure she knows someone who is not in on it. There are probably worse examples of stuff like this one this show, but for some reason, I couldn't get over this one. Glad she's gone.

 

[stbugs]

This may have already been brought up, but why on earth would Carroll's lawyer go to such great lengths to do all this stuff for him? I know there was a scene where she basically was blowing him off. What does he have over her for her to have done all of this stuff??

One of his followers chopped her fingers off. She was scared ####less with good reason

Thanks. I remember that now (actually watched that ep from hospital bed), but she is surrounded by law men and FBI dudes. She is a lawyer so presumably intelligent, she is willing to risk get a serial killer out of jail and not tell any of the authorities? Worst character ever. Seriously, there is no way that should would have gotten away with it. If it were me, I'd roll the dice and go against the psychopath and put my money on Ryan.

1. People do stupid things on this show 2. There have already been followers in law enforcement

Yeah, I get that, but for some reason she just sticks out as being overall horrible, imo. So she is facing certain jail time rather than going to someone she knows and trusts. She is a defense attorney, I'm sure she knows someone who is not in on it. There are probably worse examples of stuff like this one this show, but for some reason, I couldn't get over this one. Glad she's gone.

Agreed, she was a bad story line. There has been 1 follower in law enforcement, the lady cop. No one in the FBI has been infiltrated and honestly, it would be a horrible story line if someone had been. Carroll has way too many available people to risk trying to get an FBI agent in on it and exposing his plan. The lawyer lady could have exposed the kidnapping of the wife, stopped triggering the plan and not helped Carroll escape and she would have been safe with the FBI. Yes, they have had some perimiter issues, but unless she is at Claire's house or the farmhouse, she is far safer than being with the guy who had her fingers cutoff. How is that possibly safe?The warden was stupid, but Carroll had his daughter. The lawyer had no excuse. For what she is doing, she will go to jail for a long time and she basically agreed to drive the guy who threatened her and put herself into harm's way. Even Claire acting stupid could at least be explained because she is desperate to get her son. So glad the lawyer is dead and gone.

 

[shadyridr]

This may have already been brought up, but why on earth would Carroll's lawyer go to such great lengths to do all this stuff for him? I know there was a scene where she basically was blowing him off. What does he have over her for her to have done all of this stuff??

One of his followers chopped her fingers off. She was scared ####less with good reason

Thanks. I remember that now (actually watched that ep from hospital bed), but she is surrounded by law men and FBI dudes. She is a lawyer so presumably intelligent, she is willing to risk get a serial killer out of jail and not tell any of the authorities? Worst character ever. Seriously, there is no way that should would have gotten away with it. If it were me, I'd roll the dice and go against the psychopath and put my money on Ryan.

1. People do stupid things on this show 2. There have already been followers in law enforcement

Yeah, I get that, but for some reason she just sticks out as being overall horrible, imo. So she is facing certain jail time rather than going to someone she knows and trusts. She is a defense attorney, I'm sure she knows someone who is not in on it. There are probably worse examples of stuff like this one this show, but for some reason, I couldn't get over this one. Glad she's gone.

Agreed, she was a bad story line. There has been 1 follower in law enforcement, the lady cop. No one in the FBI has been infiltrated and honestly, it would be a horrible story line if someone had been. Carroll has way too many available people to risk trying to get an FBI agent in on it and exposing his plan. The lawyer lady could have exposed the kidnapping of the wife, stopped triggering the plan and not helped Carroll escape and she would have been safe with the FBI. Yes, they have had some perimiter issues, but unless she is at Claire's house or the farmhouse, she is far safer than being with the guy who had her fingers cutoff. How is that possibly safe?The warden was stupid, but Carroll had his daughter. The lawyer had no excuse. For what she is doing, she will go to jail for a long time and she basically agreed to drive the guy who threatened her and put herself into harm's way. Even Claire acting stupid could at least be explained because she is desperate to get her son. So glad the lawyer is dead and gone.

one? You forget fat ninja cop? And warden is in law enforcement. Sure, he wasnt a follower but he was compromised

 

[zed2283]

IN.But I'm already tired of everyone being in on it.

And this was after the 2nd episode, so you can imagine my frustration at this point. The local lady cop put me over the top. I like the show, and I'll keep watching because I like Ryan's character, but it's beyond ridiculous (especially after seeing the mansion of 100 Followers).

 

[stbugs]

This may have already been brought up, but why on earth would Carroll's lawyer go to such great lengths to do all this stuff for him? I know there was a scene where she basically was blowing him off. What does he have over her for her to have done all of this stuff??

One of his followers chopped her fingers off. She was scared ####less with good reason

Thanks. I remember that now (actually watched that ep from hospital bed), but she is surrounded by law men and FBI dudes. She is a lawyer so presumably intelligent, she is willing to risk get a serial killer out of jail and not tell any of the authorities? Worst character ever. Seriously, there is no way that should would have gotten away with it. If it were me, I'd roll the dice and go against the psychopath and put my money on Ryan.

1. People do stupid things on this show 2. There have already been followers in law enforcement

Yeah, I get that, but for some reason she just sticks out as being overall horrible, imo. So she is facing certain jail time rather than going to someone she knows and trusts. She is a defense attorney, I'm sure she knows someone who is not in on it. There are probably worse examples of stuff like this one this show, but for some reason, I couldn't get over this one. Glad she's gone.

Agreed, she was a bad story line. There has been 1 follower in law enforcement, the lady cop. No one in the FBI has been infiltrated and honestly, it would be a horrible story line if someone had been. Carroll has way too many available people to risk trying to get an FBI agent in on it and exposing his plan. The lawyer lady could have exposed the kidnapping of the wife, stopped triggering the plan and not helped Carroll escape and she would have been safe with the FBI. Yes, they have had some perimiter issues, but unless she is at Claire's house or the farmhouse, she is far safer than being with the guy who had her fingers cutoff. How is that possibly safe?The warden was stupid, but Carroll had his daughter. The lawyer had no excuse. For what she is doing, she will go to jail for a long time and she basically agreed to drive the guy who threatened her and put herself into harm's way. Even Claire acting stupid could at least be explained because she is desperate to get her son. So glad the lawyer is dead and gone.

one? You forget fat ninja cop? And warden is in law enforcement. Sure, he wasnt a follower but he was compromised

Forgot about fat ninja "prison" guard. Warden was compromised, but my point still stands. We haven't seen anyone in the FBI compromised. The lawyer would have been 100% better off telling the FBI what happened instead of A) helping a serial killer that cut off her fingers, B) breaking several laws that would have ended up putting her in jail probably the rest of her life and C) breaking the same serial killer out of jail which absolutely put her life in way more jeopardy that being in an FBI office/safe house.Seriously, I know you don't like complaints, but the lawyer's actions were ridiculous. The warden's actions weren't out of character at all since his daughter was kidnapped. She is scared of Carroll, but to become an accomplice in murders, kidnappings and helping the escape of the guy you are scare ####less of is just stupid. Again, very glad she is gone so hopefully we get the show back to where it started.

 

[shadyridr]

This may have already been brought up, but why on earth would Carroll's lawyer go to such great lengths to do all this stuff for him? I know there was a scene where she basically was blowing him off. What does he have over her for her to have done all of this stuff??

One of his followers chopped her fingers off. She was scared ####less with good reason

Thanks. I remember that now (actually watched that ep from hospital bed), but she is surrounded by law men and FBI dudes. She is a lawyer so presumably intelligent, she is willing to risk get a serial killer out of jail and not tell any of the authorities? Worst character ever. Seriously, there is no way that should would have gotten away with it. If it were me, I'd roll the dice and go against the psychopath and put my money on Ryan.

1. People do stupid things on this show 2. There have already been followers in law enforcement

Yeah, I get that, but for some reason she just sticks out as being overall horrible, imo. So she is facing certain jail time rather than going to someone she knows and trusts. She is a defense attorney, I'm sure she knows someone who is not in on it. There are probably worse examples of stuff like this one this show, but for some reason, I couldn't get over this one. Glad she's gone.

Agreed, she was a bad story line. There has been 1 follower in law enforcement, the lady cop. No one in the FBI has been infiltrated and honestly, it would be a horrible story line if someone had been. Carroll has way too many available people to risk trying to get an FBI agent in on it and exposing his plan. The lawyer lady could have exposed the kidnapping of the wife, stopped triggering the plan and not helped Carroll escape and she would have been safe with the FBI. Yes, they have had some perimiter issues, but unless she is at Claire's house or the farmhouse, she is far safer than being with the guy who had her fingers cutoff. How is that possibly safe?The warden was stupid, but Carroll had his daughter. The lawyer had no excuse. For what she is doing, she will go to jail for a long time and she basically agreed to drive the guy who threatened her and put herself into harm's way. Even Claire acting stupid could at least be explained because she is desperate to get her son. So glad the lawyer is dead and gone.

one? You forget fat ninja cop? And warden is in law enforcement. Sure, he wasnt a follower but he was compromised

Forgot about fat ninja "prison" guard. Warden was compromised, but my point still stands. We haven't seen anyone in the FBI compromised. The lawyer would have been 100% better off telling the FBI what happened instead of A) helping a serial killer that cut off her fingers, B) breaking several laws that would have ended up putting her in jail probably the rest of her life and C) breaking the same serial killer out of jail which absolutely put her life in way more jeopardy that being in an FBI office/safe house.Seriously, I know you don't like complaints, but the lawyer's actions were ridiculous. The warden's actions weren't out of character at all since his daughter was kidnapped. She is scared of Carroll, but to become an accomplice in murders, kidnappings and helping the escape of the guy you are scare ####less of is just stupid. Again, very glad she is gone so hopefully we get the show back to where it started.

Did you see my #1 in the post above?

 

[FootballDummy]

He escaped? I'm SHOCKED!!!11! Oh wait, I'm not.

 

[apalmer]

So, FBI chick is bad, yes?

Nah, she's going to be the one who finally decides to kill the cult by cutting off its head.

Ryan

Too obvious

 

[jamny]

such a stupid show.

 

[shuke]

Got pretty weird tonight.

 

[Psychopav]

Got pretty weird tonight.

The weirdness was even weirder coupled with their choice of background music. Was I supposed to empathize with the cult of killers or something?

 

[Tony Jabroni]

Got pretty weird tonight.

The weirdness was even weirder coupled with their choice of background music. Was I supposed to empathize with the cult of killers or something?

Don't forget the plastic on the floor! Or the chokefest leading to sexy time for 'Roderick'.Pretty f'n odd.

 

[Cyclones]

I thought the show bounced back tonight. Back to more crazy, which is good.

 

[Sarnoff]

I still say 50/50 that stabbed FBI dude is in on it.

 

[Jayrok]

How could Ryan not suspect the new FBI chief now?

Parker (female FBI agent) is disappointing in this series. Her character on Person of Interest would have either been waiting in the car for the cult members or walking away from the car as they get in seconds before it explodes behind her.

I thought the episode was boring for the most part. Why the need to include all the sex between unattractive people? I guess to keep the TV14 rating or something. Carroll killing one of his main enforcers doesn't make any sense. Guess he doesn't need all the followers he can get.