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*****Official The Last of Us HBO TV thread***** Pro clicker rights in here! (1 Viewer)
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Wait, what?
ProstheticRGK
Footballguy
This season was phenomenally good. Ranks up there with all the really great HBO series, IMO. The finale was superb. Pedro and Bella just chewed up the screen on this one. Couldn't look away, and it was over way too quickly.
I never played the first game- looking to download and play it now, though, especially since they're re-releasing it. Played the 2nd game and loved it, even though I am not a huge fan of the genre. Bummer we have to wait so long for the next season, but all the Easter Eggs in the series, having voice actors from the game playing real characters in the series- just cool.
I never played the first game- looking to download and play it now, though, especially since they're re-releasing it. Played the 2nd game and loved it, even though I am not a huge fan of the genre. Bummer we have to wait so long for the next season, but all the Easter Eggs in the series, having voice actors from the game playing real characters in the series- just cool.
CGRdrJoe
Footballguy
umm, they do this after every show. Just fast forward the credits, pm shuke if you need help doing it. hth
Corporation
Angry Bovine
I didn't realize it until the third episode when people started talking about it. I thought it was a podcast, but nope, it's after the end of the credits each show.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
Glad folks enjoyed the ending.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
I thought it was cool how they had him grab ammo and switch weapons off of the dead bodies, like you would in a video game.
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
I have not watched it yet. Maybe it’s because I probably haven’t watched a show week to week since the days of GoT, but this seems a little abrupt.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
So . . . .
How does a new born baby survive without its mom? Not like there is a CVS nearby with formula or a hospital or anything.
Marlene raised Ellie? They didn't seem that familiar with each other. How is she in a FEDRA camp if brought to Boston by a FIrefly?
Joel was getting a little creepy -- overselling his Dadness. I don't want to see their relationship destroyed in future seasons.
How does a new born baby survive without its mom? Not like there is a CVS nearby with formula or a hospital or anything.
Marlene raised Ellie? They didn't seem that familiar with each other. How is she in a FEDRA camp if brought to Boston by a FIrefly?
Joel was getting a little creepy -- overselling his Dadness. I don't want to see their relationship destroyed in future seasons.
Marlene didnt raise Ellie. She was raised in a FEDRA camp which Im sure has all the supplies needed to raise a baby.
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
I didn’t love this episode. It was kinda of a wet fart for me.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
That maybe the game, but based on last night it seemed she was raising her. Not sure where that house is related to the closest FEDRA location. Babies are hard!
Chaz McNulty
Footballguy
I agree with this sentiment. He has this wall around him the whole episode and suddenly it vanishes. I guess they had to try and create a father's love for this girl to justify his actions in the hospital. I felt it was slightly forced.
No the game doesnt really get into it. Im referring to the first episode. Ellie didnt even know who Marlene was.
This is the problem wasting 2 hours of a 9 hour show on Bill/Frank and Ellie/Riley. We didnt spend nearly enough time with Joel/Ellie
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
It's just a show/game, but it's worth noting that humans thrived for thousands of years without access to CVS. If there's one thing humans are good at, it's having kids and raising them.
Edit: See House of the Dragon for low-key, easy-to-watch takes on childbirth in a less technological era.
Edit: See House of the Dragon for low-key, easy-to-watch takes on childbirth in a less technological era.
Capella
Footballguy
I feel like this did this multiple times throughout the season. Their whole journey was about building a relationship.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
I am not here to argue this point. Was just something that I thought about. The baby was born and hasn't nursed at all. How long can a newborn go without anything at all -- they are in a post-apocalypse situation and seemingly in the middle of nowhere.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
That is why I was confused.
identikit
Footballguy
There are still breasts around
The General
Footballguy
In the game did you play as Joel during the ”Rambo” sequence in the hospital?
LIke you had to get to the operating room before they started cutting?
LIke you had to get to the operating room before they started cutting?
yes but it wasnt a timed mission
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
I have nipples, Greg, could you milk me?
The General
Footballguy
Did you pump one into the Doc? That was pretty hardcore.
The General
Footballguy
Telling Joel about the operation was kind of reminiscent of the villains in James Bond telling him all their plans with enough time to stop the plan then tying him up loosely with no guards.
Joel taking them all out was not an issue, this plan to duplicate the cure sounded hokey and distributing it to people would never happen. Even if you did there are apparently millions of infected that would rip you apart. Head back to the town with Christmas lights and bacon, shore up that defense for that town, and ride out your time.
Her bite would be seen so need a plan for that story.
Bummed the series is over so quick.
Joel taking them all out was not an issue, this plan to duplicate the cure sounded hokey and distributing it to people would never happen. Even if you did there are apparently millions of infected that would rip you apart. Head back to the town with Christmas lights and bacon, shore up that defense for that town, and ride out your time.
Her bite would be seen so need a plan for that story.
Bummed the series is over so quick.
identikit
Footballguy
The series isn't over
wazoo11
Footballguy
the series isnt over
a major actor from Westworld who was in the second game is rumored to have a large role next season
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
There's lots of time to debate this, but I'm still of the opinion that the story should have ended here. The story that they just told is pretty much perfect IMO. It has a clear ending and each character got to go through an appropriately satisfying story arc. We don't know what's going to happen to Joel and Ellie next, but we know that they're going to have to figure out a way to live with Joel's decision and that's all that really matters.
The rest of the stuff that actually happens in Part II could and should have been a different story with different characters. This is one spot where the pressure to make a sequel and get sales disrupted (IMO) a well done and tightly-knit story that really didn't need a sequel.
I disagree with this. Marlene had no way of knowing Joel bonded with Ellie on their journey and treated her like a daughter. As far as Marlene knew, Joel was just fulfilling his mission of smuggling the girl across the country and would be on his way. In other words, they werent villains at the time.
parrot
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beer 30
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Felt the same way
YES!!! Couldn't figure out what it was last night but the interactions just seemed off, forced is a good word for it.
I assume there was some time lapse between last weeks episode and getting to the hospital in Salt Lake but it wasn't really represented that way so it made you think Ellie was in a shell because of the events she went through last week. Joel trying hard to be Dad didn't really help.
Capella
Footballguy
That was good. Thanks.
GordonGekko
Footballguy
Yes, I agree. This stance is the correct one.
One could make the argument that this season could have extended into 20 episodes instead of 9 to really flesh out the story ( Give Ellie's mom her own episode, give Tommy his own episode, give Joel and Tommy as bandits their own episode, give Marlene her own episode, give the FEDRA perspective it's own episode, give KC and the rebellion there it's own episode, give the fall of society it's own episode, etc, etc ) But once the "cure" situation is resolved or accepted that it will never be resolved, the core conflict is out of road.
But there's nowhere to take this story unless you have decided to piss off your fans.
Does anyone want to see a storyline where Ellie's father is actually a high level DARPA researcher in some cryo tube next to Walt Disney?
Guardians Of The Galaxy had the same problem. The first film was incredible ( probably the best of the entire MCU IMHO), but the 2nd film had nowhere to go. Couldn't talk about Quill's mom anymore, so let's talk about his dad. But that ground was already covered, in terms of resolving the missing/dead parents in the first film.
Yeah, that’s the video game part of it. If he has no idea he can’t even think about stopping it. I also thought the plan seemed hokey as well. Wouldn’t the cordecyp (sp?) die after removal? Couldn’t you get the protein out of Ellie without killing her? Wouldn’t it be better not to instantly kill her? I know it’s gotta work a certain way but it did make me wonder.
ZADO
Footballguy
Havent you heard? Men can now breastfeed
The General
Footballguy
Why bother telling him? It was to set up Rambo mode from the video game which was pretty cheesy. He was standing in the hallway shooting guys at point blank range and they all missed. I'm guessing in the game you died quite a few times making your way up there
The General
Footballguy
Yeah meant season. Was short run and last episode was really short.
The General
Footballguy
It could have. No clue how good rest of the game is or if that will make a good story. I would like to have a bit more on birth of Fireflies, fill in the 30 year gap, etc.
jamny
Footballguy
I was really looking forward to them being captured like they did in the game. It was an intense scene.
Here's the whole game one season minus gameplay for those interested.
Here's the whole game one season minus gameplay for those interested.
The General
Footballguy
Yeah was just all too generic action movie in that whole sequence for me and the doc having this idea to make the cure out of this dingy hospital seemed kind of absurd.
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
Didn’t Marlene say they didn’t tell her anything?
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
It seems like there's always a debate in these kinds of shows about realism vs. message.
There was a lot of this when the game came out too. How could they actually know that they could get a cure from Ellie? How could the technology for this even possibly work at this point? How are they supposed to manufacture and distribute this so-called cure? Could one guy really overwhelm an entire facility filled with people who were accustomed to combat? I don't mean to make it sound like those are dumb questions. If Joel and Ellie had started off in Boston in E1 and then in E2 they're suddenly in SLC, I think it would be reasonable to wonder how that happened. It's reasonable to wonder where the mushroom zombies came from -- if the infection was caused by a botched new flavor of Skittles, that would strain everyone's ability to suspend disbelief.
On the other hand, the writers wanted to tell a story about individual human relationships, love, the search for meaning in the world, etc. And to ask some questions about how we evaluate those values vs. the broader needs of society. Sometimes you have to take a few liberties with what's technically feasible to tell your story. I think a lot of our various responses to these shows goes back to how much we're willing to let slide in the name of making of point.
There was a lot of this when the game came out too. How could they actually know that they could get a cure from Ellie? How could the technology for this even possibly work at this point? How are they supposed to manufacture and distribute this so-called cure? Could one guy really overwhelm an entire facility filled with people who were accustomed to combat? I don't mean to make it sound like those are dumb questions. If Joel and Ellie had started off in Boston in E1 and then in E2 they're suddenly in SLC, I think it would be reasonable to wonder how that happened. It's reasonable to wonder where the mushroom zombies came from -- if the infection was caused by a botched new flavor of Skittles, that would strain everyone's ability to suspend disbelief.
On the other hand, the writers wanted to tell a story about individual human relationships, love, the search for meaning in the world, etc. And to ask some questions about how we evaluate those values vs. the broader needs of society. Sometimes you have to take a few liberties with what's technically feasible to tell your story. I think a lot of our various responses to these shows goes back to how much we're willing to let slide in the name of making of point.
The General
Footballguy
That was the whole thing, they didn't tell her but she seemed to know something was up and didn't believe Joel. At least that's what I thought.
No
ZADO
Footballguy
Her demeanor the whole first half was off, she seemed distant and withdrawn. Then her saying that no matter what they are seeing this thing thru until the end. After seeing her reaction to not being in the hospital made me wonder if she knew something about how the surgery would end up and didnt expect to wake up ever again .
I wasnt sure if i missed a conversation about that during the series .
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
I think that was a big thing. Joel might have been able to accept it if they had a conversation with both. I believe Ellie would have still gone through with it and she would have been able to convince him to let her go. Being all shady about it, I don’t blame his reaction.
Socrates11
Footballguy
Honestly, I was kinda bored by it. Ellie's backstory of immunity is because pregnant mom got bit? Felt like they stole that from Blade. Then Joel has an awakening and kills Marlene and the Fireflies to save Ellie, who has become a stand-in for his daughter, dead 20 yrs? Some sort of 'I couldn't save her, but I can save you'! Eh. Now it seems the story has nowhere to go, having Joe and Ellie go from town to town and fight the infected and bad guys just to survive. Fun in a video game maybe, but limiting for a story. I say this having never played the video game and likely never will, so I'm sure I'm missing some nuance and perhaps there is a new narrative coming that will have good storytelling but I don't know.
I'm starting to feel zombie/infected stories have reached their end. And I say this as someone who has loved zombie stories. I'm ready for a new dystopian show, like America after an EMP attack. Big fan of the book One Second After by William R. Forstchen.
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