***OFFICIAL 'The Walking Dead' TV Series Thread*** (4 Viewers)

[Harry Manback]

So can anyone explain why the dude didnt cut off the chain but his hand?Please dont tell me because the dude was portrayed as a dumb###

You ever try to saw a pair of police grade handcuffs wiith a rusty hacksaw?

 

[modogg]

Perhaps its because the season is only 6 episodes long, but I think they are glossing over a lot of things that typically make AMC shows great. I thought the first episode was completely awesome, the next episode was good enough, and last night was just okay. It seems to me if they are going to pull everyone out of harm's way for a while (last night) then perhaps developing the characters would be a good idea. We don't have ANY back story on most of the people in the camp, the wife dropped Shane instantly which makes no sense since I'm guessing he had a hand in saving her and her son, we haven't encountered the father and son from the first episode again, etc. I didn't read the comics, but everyone in here has said that the character development was the key part of the story. And after episode 1 I was completely buying that. But with the exception of the women talking down at the water, there hasn't been any character development at all. I thought we'd be getting flashbacks to their lives before the outbreaks and how they all got there, but with only half the season left it looks like that's not happening.I'm still enjoying the show a lot, but the first episode was clearly the best.

Colin,As an enormous fan of the comic book series, I can tell you that you've echoed my own problem with the shows 2nd and 3rd episodes. What makes WD, the written series, so fantastic is the characterization. We're brought into a world where people are complex. The untenable situation brings out the worst in the best. No one in that world is universally good or bad, they're multi dimensional ranging from the "heroes" of the series to the children to the villains. In the TV show, perhaps because of the need to 'dumb it down?' we're seeing one dimensional and almost stereotypical characterizations. And it's bumming me out.

I think it is much more because ther shows are so short, and in that time frame they have to grab main stream audiences attention. I'm curious to see what happens with the encounter with the groupo of people they run into. It looks a little hostile (from the 2-3 seconds i caught in the perviews) and it will be interesting to see how it plays out. Definitely looks like the pace picks up a bit next week. And I am enjoying the shows. It seems some are wondering why decisions made during the end of the world and not completely thought out, but hopefuly peopole can begin to overlook that. the show looks real good, ther pace is good, and I find it hard that people would rather watch the abundance of crap on TV then a good show that has a lot of promise going forward.

 

[biggamer3]

So can anyone explain why the dude didnt cut off the chain but his hand?Please dont tell me because the dude was portrayed as a dumb###

You ever try to saw a pair of police grade handcuffs wiith a rusty hacksaw?

Cutting bone is easier then handcuffs?

 

[KGB]

Im pretty sure the hacksaw wouldnt be able to cut through the handcuffs. I was going to be pissed if thats what they made happen. I didnt think about cutting through the pipe only the hand

 

[RhymesMcJuice]

Im pretty sure the hacksaw wouldnt be able to cut through the handcuffs. I was going to be pissed if thats what they made happen. I didnt think about cutting through the pipe only the hand

Hacksaws are designed to cut through hard metal like handcuffs.

 

[beer 30]

Im pretty sure the hacksaw wouldnt be able to cut through the handcuffs. I was going to be pissed if thats what they made happen. I didnt think about cutting through the pipe only the hand

Hacksaws are designed to cut through hard metal like handcuffs.

And handcuffs are designed not to be cut by hacksaws. It's a viscous circle.

 

[Harry Manback]

So can anyone explain why the dude didnt cut off the chain but his hand?Please dont tell me because the dude was portrayed as a dumb###

You ever try to saw a pair of police grade handcuffs wiith a rusty hacksaw?

Cutting bone is easier then handcuffs?

You do realize that from your shoulder to your finger tips isn't all continuous bone, yes?And yes, it is far easier.

 

[TylerRoseFan]

So can anyone explain why the dude didnt cut off the chain but his hand?Please dont tell me because the dude was portrayed as a dumb###

You ever try to saw a pair of police grade handcuffs wiith a rusty hacksaw?

:nerd alert: Are we to assume the hacksaw belonged to the old guy as one of the tools left behind? If so, it should have been properly maintained and in working order. Did you notice his comments about allowing others to borrow his tools? Did you notice how clean his tool chest was when he reached in to get the bolt cutters? He's not someone who doesn't take care of his equipment. Based on that, the hacksaw wouldn't be rusty. :nerd alert:

 

[Dr. Doofenshmirtz]

Finishing watching episode 2 at work right now. I like it so far

except that my wife told me my daughter had a fever and I called a few hours later and when no one answered, I thought they turned into zombies

 

[ScottyFargo]

Off-topic: So, if I am ever handcuffedto a pipe and have a hacksaw, in order to escape zombies is it absolutely necessary to amputate the whole hand? I don't want to lose my thumb, either. So, how little do I have to cut off to escape? Would the pinky and ring finger be enough?

 

[ScottyFargo]

Off-topic: So, if I am ever handcuffedto a pipe and have a hacksaw, in order to escape zombies is it absolutely necessary to amputate the whole hand? I don't want to lose my thumb, either. So, how little do I have to cut off to escape? Would the pinky and ring finger be enough?

 

[Harry Manback]

Off-topic: So, if I am ever handcuffedto a pipe and have a hacksaw, in order to escape zombies is it absolutely necessary to amputate the whole hand? I don't want to lose my thumb, either. So, how little do I have to cut off to escape? Would the pinky and ring finger be enough?

Definitely not.You pretty much have 3 options.1) cut off the hand2) cut off the thumb3) break your hand Problem with 3 is there are no guarantees it will be successful.Not sure how feasible it would be to cut through the pipe, but assuming that's not an option the above three are pretty much it unless I'm missing something.

 

[Jobber]

The hillbilly screwed himself by crying and screaming all afternoon on that rooftop. If he'd have kept his mouth shut I bet the zombies wouldn't have known he was up there. Then he could have worked on those cuffs with the hacksaw and other tools and not have to hurry and cut off his hand.

 

[beer 30]

So can anyone explain why the dude didnt cut off the chain but his hand?Please dont tell me because the dude was portrayed as a dumb###

You ever try to saw a pair of police grade handcuffs wiith a rusty hacksaw?

:nerd alert: Are we to assume the hacksaw belonged to the old guy as one of the tools left behind? If so, it should have been properly maintained and in working order. Did you notice his comments about allowing others to borrow his tools? Did you notice how clean his tool chest was when he reached in to get the bolt cutters? He's not someone who doesn't take care of his equipment. Based on that, the hacksaw wouldn't be rusty. :nerd alert:

 

[Bronco Billy]

So can anyone explain why the dude didnt cut off the chain but his hand?Please dont tell me because the dude was portrayed as a dumb###

You ever try to saw a pair of police grade handcuffs wiith a rusty hacksaw?

Cutting bone is easier then handcuffs?

Jeebsus.You cut through the threaded rod of the pipe support that the other end of the handcuffs are attached to. A hacksaw goes through that in less than a minute - which is probably a hell of a lot less time than it would take to cut off your own hand despite the tissue being a lot softer.But stupid people don't get to keep all of their parts sometimes...

 

[beer 30]

Jeebsus.

You cut through the threaded rod of the pipe support that the other end of the handcuffs are attached to. A hacksaw goes through that in less than a minute - which is probably a hell of a lot less time than it would take to cut off your own hand despite the tissue being a lot softer.

But stupid people don't get to keep all of their parts sometimes...

Winner, on all counts.Pic 1

Pic 2

 

[Bronco Billy]

Jeebsus.

You cut through the threaded rod of the pipe support that the other end of the handcuffs are attached to. A hacksaw goes through that in less than a minute - which is probably a hell of a lot less time than it would take to cut off your own hand despite the tissue being a lot softer.

But stupid people don't get to keep all of their parts sometimes...

Winner, on all counts.Pic 1

Pic 2

QED

TOCOL misses you, GB.

 

[SmoovySmoov]

3) break your hand

Too risky. You break your hand, and it could immediately start swelling, which would be counter productive to the whole "escaping from handcuffs" problem.

 

[TylerRoseFan]

Alsoalsoalso...i bet the stupid hick didn't even consider cutting at angles so he'd have a flap of skin to cover the wound so it would heal better.

 

[Insein]

What made me scratch my head was the pipe, when he freaked and started kicking it. If you watch, the pipe starts to crinkle or bend. Pretty sure if I had 3-4 hungry zombies eying up for lunch I'd go ape#### on that pipe until it broke before I'd do what he did. Either bad props or silly story telling.Also agree that I would have sawed through the rusting bolt the handcuffs where attached to. That was all very silly.

And if your belt wasn't long enough to reach the saw or gun or whatever you were trying to reach with it tie your socks to it...use your bootlaces...whatever. Hell, Mike Brady knew this. I can't stand watching shows where characters make not just stupid mistakes but unrealistic ones.

I saw it a different way. The guy was clearly delirious. He was reminicising in one moment and then panicing the next. A person's mind is not right in that state. Think about how you act when really tired trying to accomplish something. Now times that by 100 and add in zombies trying to bust through a door to eat you. The guy paniced and couldn't think straight. He then decided the quickest way out was to cut off his hand. So its easy to say in hindsight "I'd do this" but I don't think we could. We're thinking with a clear mind and trying to judge what a person in an altered state should do.

 

[LokiKx]

Gotta say I am stumped with why he couldn't cut the damn chain and the show is getting worse and worse by the episode.

I have not read the comics but so far the show is pretty good. The way they framed the cutting off of the hand made me think they are foreshadowing another event down the road.

 

[Copeman]

Again, is there anyway I can catch up online? I missed last sundays episode.

 

[AcerFC]

Again, is there anyway I can catch up online? I missed last sundays episode.

Check your free on demand channels. AMC has all three episodes on nowI watched two of them at work today on my slingbox

 

[Copeman]

Again, is there anyway I can catch up online? I missed last sundays episode.

Check your free on demand channels. AMC has all three episodes on nowI watched two of them at work today on my slingbox

I don't have those free on demand channels.Anywhere on the internet these can be found?

 

[RudiStein]

What made me scratch my head was the pipe, when he freaked and started kicking it. If you watch, the pipe starts to crinkle or bend. Pretty sure if I had 3-4 hungry zombies eying up for lunch I'd go ape#### on that pipe until it broke before I'd do what he did. Either bad props or silly story telling.Also agree that I would have sawed through the rusting bolt the handcuffs where attached to. That was all very silly.

And if your belt wasn't long enough to reach the saw or gun or whatever you were trying to reach with it tie your socks to it...use your bootlaces...whatever. Hell, Mike Brady knew this. I can't stand watching shows where characters make not just stupid mistakes but unrealistic ones.

I saw it a different way. The guy was clearly delirious. He was reminicising in one moment and then panicing the next. A person's mind is not right in that state. Think about how you act when really tired trying to accomplish something. Now times that by 100 and add in zombies trying to bust through a door to eat you. The guy paniced and couldn't think straight. He then decided the quickest way out was to cut off his hand. So its easy to say in hindsight "I'd do this" but I don't think we could. We're thinking with a clear mind and trying to judge what a person in an altered state should do.

 

[Charlie Frown]

I think the show is actually getting better. Sure there are a few weird "holes" but this is a zombie show. Maybe one of the zombies squeezed thru the crack in the door and the 'neck had to get away in a hurry? Guess we will find out next week.

 

[shuke]

So can anyone explain why the dude didnt cut off the chain but his hand?Please dont tell me because the dude was portrayed as a dumb###

You ever try to saw a pair of police grade handcuffs wiith a rusty hacksaw?

Cutting bone is easier then handcuffs?

Yes.

 

[biggamer3]

I am shocked its only a six episode run this season. Though each episode since premier has been weaker then pilot this its still better then all other shows on tv now

 

[TeamDingo]

Guess we will find out next week.

This is my feeling as well. Because it happened off camera, it is not at all clear what exactly took place.

 

[WVU Alum]

Guess we will find out next week.

This is my feeling as well. Because it happened off camera, it is not at all clear what exactly took place.

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[Thunderlips]

What made me scratch my head was the pipe, when he freaked and started kicking it. If you watch, the pipe starts to crinkle or bend. Pretty sure if I had 3-4 hungry zombies eying up for lunch I'd go ape#### on that pipe until it broke before I'd do what he did. Either bad props or silly story telling.Also agree that I would have sawed through the rusting bolt the handcuffs where attached to. That was all very silly.

And if your belt wasn't long enough to reach the saw or gun or whatever you were trying to reach with it tie your socks to it...use your bootlaces...whatever. Hell, Mike Brady knew this. I can't stand watching shows where characters make not just stupid mistakes but unrealistic ones.

Mike Brady didn't have a horde of zombies bearing down on him. Plus, even if he did....he was pretty safe in a jail cell. Plus....it's Mike Brady.

 

[TeamDingo]

Guess we will find out next week.

This is my feeling as well. Because it happened off camera, it is not at all clear what exactly took place.

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[Socrates11]

Guess we will find out next week.

This is my feeling as well. Because it happened off camera, it is not at all clear what exactly took place.

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I think it's obviously time to start thinking of the show and the graphic novels as two separate entities with few simularities. And that's fine with me because as much as I enjoyed the graphic novels they were not without some faults. To address your point-

 

[TeamDingo]

I think it's obviously time to start thinking of the show and the graphic novels as two separate entities with few simularities. And that's fine with me because as much as I enjoyed the graphic novels they were not without some faults.

I really have no problem diverging from the source. Off topic but my problem with the Watchmen movie was that it ultimately felt like (except for the Rorschach stuff) a dry soulless recitation of the source material[/end rant] But I DO have a problem with just shifting elements of the original around for what appears to be no good reason. I do not think there are any spoilers here but I can tag this as such if necessary.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

That was pretty terrible. Why don't they go back to the city and steal more cars and build a barricade? And why on earth did he cut his hand off? The hacksaw can cut through bone but not through thin metal?

That episode was terrible. More mindless zombies, less mindless people.

 

[goonsquad]

That was pretty terrible. Why don't they go back to the city and steal more cars and build a barricade? And why on earth did he cut his hand off? The hacksaw can cut through bone but not through thin metal?

That episode was terrible. More mindless zombies, less mindless people.

Dude was coked up and in a panic. He didn't know the zombies couldn't get through the door; he didn't even know it was chained closed. The zombies had opened the door and saw him so he most likely thought they'd be on him in minutes (if not less). Which would be quickest to cut with a rusty hacksaw: steel handcuffs, steel pipe, or wrist bone?

 

[beer 30]

Dude was coked up and in a panic. He didn't know the zombies couldn't get through the door; he didn't even know it was chained closed. The zombies had opened the door and saw him so he most likely thought they'd be on him in minutes (if not less). Which would be quickest to cut with a rusty hacksaw: steel handcuffs, steel pipe, or wrist bone?

Anxiously awaiting 3 pages of "how do you know he was coked up?" debate to follow.

 

[Harry Manback]

That was pretty terrible. Why don't they go back to the city and steal more cars and build a barricade? And why on earth did he cut his hand off? The hacksaw can cut through bone but not through thin metal? That episode was terrible. More mindless zombies, less mindless people.

Yes, because everyone knows bone is harder than metal.Brilliant!

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

That was pretty terrible. Why don't they go back to the city and steal more cars and build a barricade? And why on earth did he cut his hand off? The hacksaw can cut through bone but not through thin metal?

That episode was terrible. More mindless zombies, less mindless people.

Dude was coked up and in a panic. He didn't know the zombies couldn't get through the door; he didn't even know it was chained closed. The zombies had opened the door and saw him so he most likely thought they'd be on him in minutes (if not less). Which would be quickest to cut with a rusty hacksaw: steel handcuffs, steel pipe, or wrist bone?

Considering the zombies didn't burst in right away should've been a clue that they couldn't get through the door.

 

[Harry Manback]

That was pretty terrible. Why don't they go back to the city and steal more cars and build a barricade? And why on earth did he cut his hand off? The hacksaw can cut through bone but not through thin metal?

That episode was terrible. More mindless zombies, less mindless people.

Dude was coked up and in a panic. He didn't know the zombies couldn't get through the door; he didn't even know it was chained closed. The zombies had opened the door and saw him so he most likely thought they'd be on him in minutes (if not less). Which would be quickest to cut with a rusty hacksaw: steel handcuffs, steel pipe, or wrist bone?

Considering the zombies didn't burst in right away should've been a clue that they couldn't get through the door.

Thankfully door hinges don't wear out after constant pressure is applied. Door was clearly made of adamantium, which is obviously easier to cut through than bone.

 

[shuke]

Not to gross anyone out, but I've cut through human bone before with a hacksaw (as part of my grad school work). I've also cut through metal pipes. Bone is easier.

But what you guys are missing is that to cut your hand off you don't really have to cut through any bone.

SO QUIT TALKING ABOUT IT.

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

Not to gross anyone out, but I've cut through human bone before with a hacksaw (as part of my grad school work). I've also cut through metal pipes. Bone is easier.But what you guys are missing is that to cut your hand off you don't really have to cut through any bone. SO QUIT TALKING ABOUT IT.

So you'd rather cut off your hand rather than a pipe?

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

That was pretty terrible. Why don't they go back to the city and steal more cars and build a barricade? And why on earth did he cut his hand off? The hacksaw can cut through bone but not through thin metal?

That episode was terrible. More mindless zombies, less mindless people.

Dude was coked up and in a panic. He didn't know the zombies couldn't get through the door; he didn't even know it was chained closed. The zombies had opened the door and saw him so he most likely thought they'd be on him in minutes (if not less). Which would be quickest to cut with a rusty hacksaw: steel handcuffs, steel pipe, or wrist bone?

Considering the zombies didn't burst in right away should've been a clue that they couldn't get through the door.

Thankfully door hinges don't wear out after constant pressure is applied. Door was clearly made of adamantium, which is obviously easier to cut through than bone.

He had time. Given a choice between cutting my hand off and getting turned into a zombie, I'm taking zombie every time.

 

[Harry Manback]

Not to gross anyone out, but I've cut through human bone before with a hacksaw (as part of my grad school work). I've also cut through metal pipes. Bone is easier.But what you guys are missing is that to cut your hand off you don't really have to cut through any bone. SO QUIT TALKING ABOUT IT.

I said the same thing, but people don't want to hear facts from real experience, they'd rather be armchair experts on the mater and make assumptions that make them look foolish.

 

[The_Hunchback]

 

[Insein]

That was pretty terrible. Why don't they go back to the city and steal more cars and build a barricade? And why on earth did he cut his hand off? The hacksaw can cut through bone but not through thin metal?

That episode was terrible. More mindless zombies, less mindless people.

Dude was coked up and in a panic. He didn't know the zombies couldn't get through the door; he didn't even know it was chained closed. The zombies had opened the door and saw him so he most likely thought they'd be on him in minutes (if not less). Which would be quickest to cut with a rusty hacksaw: steel handcuffs, steel pipe, or wrist bone?

Considering the zombies didn't burst in right away should've been a clue that they couldn't get through the door.

Thankfully door hinges don't wear out after constant pressure is applied. Door was clearly made of adamantium, which is obviously easier to cut through than bone.

He had time. Given a choice between cutting my hand off and getting turned into a zombie, I'm taking zombie every time.

Is there ever a time you don't?

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

Not to gross anyone out, but I've cut through human bone before with a hacksaw (as part of my grad school work). I've also cut through metal pipes. Bone is easier.But what you guys are missing is that to cut your hand off you don't really have to cut through any bone. SO QUIT TALKING ABOUT IT.

I said the same thing, but people don't want to hear facts from real experience, they'd rather be armchair experts on the mater and make assumptions that make them look foolish.

Oh my bad. Didn't realize you got your Master's degree in Zombie Survival.

 

[Harry Manback]

That was pretty terrible. Why don't they go back to the city and steal more cars and build a barricade? And why on earth did he cut his hand off? The hacksaw can cut through bone but not through thin metal?

That episode was terrible. More mindless zombies, less mindless people.

Dude was coked up and in a panic. He didn't know the zombies couldn't get through the door; he didn't even know it was chained closed. The zombies had opened the door and saw him so he most likely thought they'd be on him in minutes (if not less). Which would be quickest to cut with a rusty hacksaw: steel handcuffs, steel pipe, or wrist bone?

Considering the zombies didn't burst in right away should've been a clue that they couldn't get through the door.

Thankfully door hinges don't wear out after constant pressure is applied. Door was clearly made of adamantium, which is obviously easier to cut through than bone.

You just couldnt stand to live without your girlfriend (read: your hand) He had time. Given a choice between cutting my hand off and getting turned into a zombie, I'm taking zombie every time.

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

Is there ever a time you don't?

Saying you don't want to cut your hand off is FISHING now?

 

[Harry Manback]

Not to gross anyone out, but I've cut through human bone before with a hacksaw (as part of my grad school work). I've also cut through metal pipes. Bone is easier.But what you guys are missing is that to cut your hand off you don't really have to cut through any bone. SO QUIT TALKING ABOUT IT.

I said the same thing, but people don't want to hear facts from real experience, they'd rather be armchair experts on the mater and make assumptions that make them look foolish.

Oh my bad. Didn't realize you got your Master's degree in Zombie Survival.

Now you know. Don't make that mistake again.And I didn't saw through bone while getting my masters, I did that while getting my undergrad, Proper Body Disposal 101, it was an elective.