***OFFICIAL 'The Walking Dead' TV Series Thread*** (1 Viewer)

[bigbottom]

cant believe someone actually enjoyed that episode. Then again i see who it is so not that surprised

Yeah I like the show. I feel just terrible. You really got me.

Hey man, I'm with you. I must be an idiot, but I enjoyed the show as well. Wasn't my favorite ever, but I got what they were going for I think. Oh well.

It's rather odd to come into a thread about a show which clearly is going to have people posting in the thread who like the show and then act as if someone liking the show is something someone should feel bad about. But hey, different strokes I guess.

show =/= episode

Just to play devil's advocate, what would you have wanted to see in this episode? More shots of the other folks, i.e. quick pan of where everyone is but no depth or more depth on other people you like better?

Better acting. Better writing. Something at least slightly less boring.

 

[Buckfast 1]

The "Rick might be a zombie" scene was brutal. How dumb do they think their viewers are to think that scene would be compelling?

ETA - Maybe that was a comic book scene that did not translate well to television.

 

[The General]

I think it would be great for the show if they completely wrapped up all these characters in the next season or so and move onto new story lines. That's the great thing about this genre you can take it anywhere to any group of people.

Honestly the one best parts of this episode to me was when for a second I thought Rick was dead.

I'll be very surprised if they continued the show without Rick. Isn't he still alive in the comics? Not that means anything obviously but he is the lead character and my guess is the day Andrew Lincoln decides he doesn't want to do the show anymore is the day it comes to an end.

If that's the case that is too bad. They could do this show for a long time and do a million different things.

 

[The General]

The "Rick might be a zombie" scene was brutal. How dumb do they think their viewers are to think that scene would be compelling?

ETA - Maybe that was a comic book scene that did not translate well to television.

I was hoping he was dead - even though you knew there was no way - just to mix the show up.

 

[packersfan]

Rick can't die until he hooks up with Beth first.

 

[Disco Stu]

The "Rick might be a zombie" scene was brutal. How dumb do they think their viewers are to think that scene would be compelling?

ETA - Maybe that was a comic book scene that did not translate well to television.

That wasn't the point of the scene. It was about how Carl would react to Rick's death, not about making the audience think the lead character is suddenly dead.

 

[Disco Stu]

I thought the episode was fine. But maybe I was just happy to have the show back.

I do feel "Carl" has come a long way as an actor. And remember when we used to make fun of Michonne for being so one dimensional? #scowl

 

[Buckfast 1]

The "Rick might be a zombie" scene was brutal. How dumb do they think their viewers are to think that scene would be compelling?

ETA - Maybe that was a comic book scene that did not translate well to television.

That wasn't the point of the scene. It was about how Carl would react to Rick's death, not about making the audience think the lead character is suddenly dead.

Yeah, I mean I get that. I just thought it felt forced and unconvincing.

 

[Disco Stu]

How does Michonne procreate with that guy, and the kid has Derek Jeter's complexion?

You were all thinking it, so don't lash out at me.

Maybe they were trying to tell us the kid wasn't his. They apparently weren't married either as the term "lover" was used instead of wife.

 

[Mr. Know-It-All]

I wound up HOPING Rick was a zombie just so he would kill Carl. Thankless little punk.

 

[Buckfast 1]

I liked the development of Michonne's character in this episode. I thought her zombie slaughter scene was powerful, in that it showed how her time with Rick's camp helped her reconnect with humanity.

 

[Raider Nation]

How does Michonne procreate with that guy, and the kid has Derek Jeter's complexion?

You were all thinking it, so don't lash out at me.

Maybe they were trying to tell us the kid wasn't his. They apparently weren't married either as the term "lover" was used instead of wife.

He looked right at the kid and mentioned his "child."

 

[Disco Stu]

How does Michonne procreate with that guy, and the kid has Derek Jeter's complexion?

You were all thinking it, so don't lash out at me.

Maybe they were trying to tell us the kid wasn't his. They apparently weren't married either as the term "lover" was used instead of wife.

He looked right at the kid and mentioned his "child."

Oh.

 

[Insein]

The episode was fine. Pretty decent even. This seems to be the way they're going to approach the first 3 or 4 episodes of the 4b season. We'll see what each group has been up to and how they'll probably meet up with one another again.

It was nice to see them give some depth to Michonne and Carl. Kid actors in dramas are usually brutal but Carl did ok. I was think the point they were going for in that he was as big as he thought he was came through.

I hated this show with Shane and Lori. That to me was horrid acting and predictable bs. This at least seems to be more about day to day survival again.

 

[phatdawg]

I liked the episode as a whole and really liked some moments within it. I liked the character development. I loved the scene with Carl sitting on the roof eating pudding. Most of the Michonne stuff was great.

 

[mr roboto]

I'm about done with the show. I just don't care enough about the characters. There's little in the way of theme anymore. The Gov was a bad character, but with him, Shane, Merle etc at least you had an interesting question to ponder: What does this new world require of a leader? What's the new morality, how can a good man survive (Rick)? Once they went away from any larger scope (basically when they found out at the CDC that they are all screwed) they only had the moral angle to play. Now all that's left is a recurring plot of safety, danger, scatter, a few people die, they regather, develop safety, soap opera, danger, scatter, rinse and repeat.

I just don't get what they will explore next with the show.

 

[Insein]

I'm about done with the show. I just don't care enough about the characters. There's little in the way of theme anymore. The Gov was a bad character, but with him, Shane, Merle etc at least you had an interesting question to ponder: What does this new world require of a leader? What's the new morality, how can a good man survive (Rick)? Once they went away from any larger scope (basically when they found out at the CDC that they are all screwed) they only had the moral angle to play. Now all that's left is a recurring plot of safety, danger, scatter, a few people die, they regather, develop safety, soap opera, danger, scatter, rinse and repeat.

I just don't get what they will explore next with the show.

A cure eventually?

 

[mr roboto]

I'm about done with the show. I just don't care enough about the characters. There's little in the way of theme anymore. The Gov was a bad character, but with him, Shane, Merle etc at least you had an interesting question to ponder: What does this new world require of a leader? What's the new morality, how can a good man survive (Rick)? Once they went away from any larger scope (basically when they found out at the CDC that they are all screwed) they only had the moral angle to play. Now all that's left is a recurring plot of safety, danger, scatter, a few people die, they regather, develop safety, soap opera, danger, scatter, rinse and repeat.

I just don't get what they will explore next with the show.

A cure eventually?

I'd love that, or finding a large settlement who's trying to rebuild, or focusing on the worldwide effort to beat the plague. I'm just not sold that this is where they want it to go.

 

[Insein]

I'm about done with the show. I just don't care enough about the characters. There's little in the way of theme anymore. The Gov was a bad character, but with him, Shane, Merle etc at least you had an interesting question to ponder: What does this new world require of a leader? What's the new morality, how can a good man survive (Rick)? Once they went away from any larger scope (basically when they found out at the CDC that they are all screwed) they only had the moral angle to play. Now all that's left is a recurring plot of safety, danger, scatter, a few people die, they regather, develop safety, soap opera, danger, scatter, rinse and repeat.

I just don't get what they will explore next with the show.

A cure eventually?

I'd love that, or finding a large settlement who's trying to rebuild, or focusing on the worldwide effort to beat the plague. I'm just not sold that this is where they want it to go.

Maybe it's just dicking around a little bit till they get there. A lot of shows do it. They still have that radio angle near the college to explore

 

[mr roboto]

I've never read the comics. I don't want spoilers, but do they pan out at all to broaden the scope of the show?

 

[Mario Kart]

The only thing wrong with the episode was Maggie was not in it. Need a spinoff of her and Glen in a sitcom with their neighbors as zombies. The neighbors always cook them food to try to turn them into zombies but it never works. Laughs a plenty.

 

[Corporation]

Too Carl-centric. They needed to advance the storyline of how Carl was hurt by Rick's "failures" to protect everyone and to show him growing up, but the actor is not strong enough to carry an entire episode. I thought the dream sequence was well done.

 

[Maelstrom]

I've never read the comics. I don't want spoilers, but do they pan out at all to broaden the scope of the show?

Yes. Assuming they follow the arc in the comics, of course, but questions of survival, what is and isn't ok in a post-apocalyptic society, all that stuff comes into play.

The thing to remember, both in the comics and in the tv show, is that it is a story about how people react to this situation. And not some random set of people, but these specific characters. People complaining about specific strategies, that they would be dead already, to much interpersonal drama - stuff like that, well, they are trying to review the zombie show they want to see, not the one that this is. And that's fine, but not relevant to this show.

As for this last episode tonight, I really enjoyed it. I liked the character building, still think Carl should stay in the house but he is definitely growing as an actor. At the end, when he admitted he couldn't do it on his own, and basically told what he thought was Zombie-Rick to kill him, that was good stuff. And it was great to finally see some of the back-story for Michonne, not to mention how much of a bad-### she is, first, integrating back into the zombie herd with her pets, reverting to her shell of a person, and then finally snapping and killing the entire herd because that wasn't who she was anymore. There was a reason she was so closed off before, that was Michonne, that was the character when she was introduced. But this episode was clearly about her growth as a person, she made the decision that she wanted/needed people, rather than the choice she made in the past, to be alone and to close herself off so she didn't have to chance more pain.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

I agree with whomever said a few pages back that the show really needs a character like Shane. That's why it's a shame they wrote Carol out (at least for the time being, hopefully since she's not actually dead she'll be back) as she was starting to fill that role.

Would have worked with Martinez too. Could have had him join the group at the end of season 3. He was already kind of half-buddies with Daryl.

There just aren't that many likable characters. It's pretty much just Daryl (and Maggie for the eye candy). Tyrese I think was supposed to help fill in that gap but he's been a huge bust.

 

[Daywalker]

Can Carl ditch the hat at least? Most implausible thing going.

 

[Wingnut]

Everybody who is 'out' and no longer watching, or are bout to be done with the show, please keep us posted in this thread. Those types of posts are riviting, and we all care a whole bunch.

 

[Wingnut]

I agree with whomever said a few pages back that the show really needs a character like Shane. That's why it's a shame they wrote Carol out (at least for the time being, hopefully since she's not actually dead she'll be back) as she was starting to fill that role..

Pretty sure Carol will be back soon...Conan had a bunch of the cast on his show the other day (Michonne, Carol, Maggie, Glen, Daryl) plugging the new episodes.

 

[BigJohn]

DAMN YOU 12 YEAR OLD KID THAT CAN'T ACT, AS THOUGH YOU HAVE 25 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE!!!!11!!!!!

 

[snogger]

Great episode. Loved the furthering of Carl and Rick's ever changing relationship and digging deep into Michonne's character.

Great to have this show back.

Last nights episode was great on both ends, you got action and more character development..

Micronne having a kid and a family.. Reading between the lines it sounds like Mike took himself and their kid out. Which explains her not trusting others.

You also had Carl thinking he is a bad #ss and can do everything on his own.. Only to learn the hard way, running into the door was one of the best moments in a LONG time, that he isn't as strong and tough as he thinks he is.

Rick learning Carl isn't a "kid" any more.. LOVED the "It's for you" answer to the knock at the door.

 

[snogger]

cant believe someone actually enjoyed that episode. Then again i see who it is so not that surprised

Yeah I like the show. I feel just terrible. You really got me.

If last nights show, and the mid-season finale didn't do it for you then it is time to move onto a new show

 

[snogger]

This episode was more like one from the earlier seasons, more about the characters and less about the zombies.

Which would have been okay if the acting hadn't been terrible.

Exactly... horrible.

:slamsmoneyontable:

I'm out...

see you next week ..

 

[snogger]

I've never read the comics. I don't want spoilers, but do they pan out at all to broaden the scope of the show?

Yes. Assuming they follow the arc in the comics, of course, but questions of survival, what is and isn't ok in a post-apocalyptic society, all that stuff comes into play.

The thing to remember, both in the comics and in the tv show, is that it is a story about how people react to this situation. And not some random set of people, but these specific characters. People complaining about specific strategies, that they would be dead already, to much interpersonal drama - stuff like that, well, they are trying to review the zombie show they want to see, not the one that this is. And that's fine, but not relevant to this show.

As for this last episode tonight, I really enjoyed it. I liked the character building, still think Carl should stay in the house but he is definitely growing as an actor. At the end, when he admitted he couldn't do it on his own, and basically told what he thought was Zombie-Rick to kill him, that was good stuff. And it was great to finally see some of the back-story for Michonne, not to mention how much of a bad-### she is, first, integrating back into the zombie herd with her pets, reverting to her shell of a person, and then finally snapping and killing the entire herd because that wasn't who she was anymore. There was a reason she was so closed off before, that was Michonne, that was the character when she was introduced. But this episode was clearly about her growth as a person, she made the decision that she wanted/needed people, rather than the choice she made in the past, to be alone and to close herself off so she didn't have to chance more pain.

all parts of this are a very

 

[FlapJacks]

Well we know why Carl is such a whiny biaaaatch who can't fight.

Like father like son. He can't shoot worth a damn either

there's still hope he has some Shane in him instead of Rick

 

[(HULK)]

If Rick had indeed turned and had eaten Carl, everyone would be saying that this was the best episode ever. Michone would've had a complete break when she found them.

 

[Jayrok]

I liked the episode too. Liked the look into Michonne's past and how she battled with how to handle her emotions. She hit a crossroads at the path of the footprints. Her instinct was to revert back to her solitary way of handling it by shutting down. Her literally walking with the herd was a great scene IMO. She was giving up on life, keeping her trust and emotions suppressed. Then she saw herself as a zombie and decided she wasn't ready to accept that fate. The massacre scene was great. She literally destroyed all her demons. So she goes back to the crossroads and follows the footsteps, the path to seek a better life with other living beings.

Her dream sequence was good too. In Joe's BBQ she finally realized how she could answer her baby-daddy's question. When she sees Rick and Carl in the window, she is ready to try trusting others once again. She had a taste of how it was like to live with others and build relationships (with Andrea, Carl, Daryl, etc.) and even though things went to hell again, she preferred that life over wandering in the forest with the walking dead. I'm looking forward to how they continue to develop her character.

As for Carl, he is no De niro for sure, but I thought he did a fine job. He saw his dad as weak and someone who couldn't take care of everyone. He thought he was better without him. A typical teen. But he realizes that he does need him and he does love him. When he thought his dad was dead his true emotions came out. The question isn't can he go on without Rick, he doesn't want to because that is his father. This epidode taught Carl that he isn't ready to be a loner badass (not yet), and I think he realizes that his dad did all he could to protect everyone but he's just one man with flaws like everyone else. It taught Rick that Carl is no longer a little kid that needs his hand held 24/7. They can now move on as a family where both can contribute to their collective protection and survival.

I enjoyed the episode and the writing.

 

[shadyridr]

Its funny, Carl had no hesitation in offing his mom

 

[roadkill1292]

I thought the episode was fine. But I only watch two shows so I kinda let myself go when I watch them.

Shane was too stupid to ever survive for very long.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Its funny, Carl had no hesitation in offing his mom

The producer of the show was asked a question like this on Talking Dead. Short version is that he (Carl) would be alone if he killed Rick...so instead of livinga lone he was just giving up and willing to let zombie Rick kill him

 

[packersfan]

Its funny, Carl had no hesitation in offing his mom

The producer of the show was asked a question like this on Talking Dead. Short version is that he (Carl) would be alone if he killed Rick...so instead of livinga lone he was just giving up and willing to let zombie Rick kill him

Bingo. And that was the moment of clarity for Carl. That's when he realized he's not quite the adult he thinks he is. He's not capable just yet of surviving on his own. More importantly - and this is rather huge when it comes to his relationship with Rick - he doesn't want to.

Oh, there sure are a lot of fanboys in this thread.

 

[shadyridr]

Its funny, Carl had no hesitation in offing his mom

The producer of the show was asked a question like this on Talking Dead. Short version is that he (Carl) would be alone if he killed Rick...so instead of livinga lone he was just giving up and willing to let zombie Rick kill him

long answer, his mother was a ##### who he couldnt ####in stand.

 

[Worm]

This episode was more like one from the earlier seasons, more about the characters and less about the zombies.

Which would have been okay if the acting hadn't been terrible.

Exactly... horrible.

:slamsmoneyontable:

I'm out...

Bye!

 

[shadyridr]

Its funny, Carl had no hesitation in offing his mom

The producer of the show was asked a question like this on Talking Dead. Short version is that he (Carl) would be alone if he killed Rick...so instead of livinga lone he was just giving up and willing to let zombie Rick kill him

Bingo. And that was the moment of clarity for Carl. That's when he realized he's not quite the adult he thinks he is. He's not capable just yet of surviving on his own. More importantly - and this is rather huge when it comes to his relationship with Rick - he doesn't want to.

Oh, there sure are a lot of fanboys in this thread.

but only one #1

 

[packersfan]

Its funny, Carl had no hesitation in offing his mom

The producer of the show was asked a question like this on Talking Dead. Short version is that he (Carl) would be alone if he killed Rick...so instead of livinga lone he was just giving up and willing to let zombie Rick kill him

Bingo. And that was the moment of clarity for Carl. That's when he realized he's not quite the adult he thinks he is. He's not capable just yet of surviving on his own. More importantly - and this is rather huge when it comes to his relationship with Rick - he doesn't want to.

Oh, there sure are a lot of fanboys in this thread.

but only one #1

Yup, I'm a big fan of The Walking Dead. I feel terrible. Just terrible I tell you. And I can't believe I'm posting in a thread about The Walking Dead expressing my appreciation of the show. I mean, what's up with that? You sure have showed me.

 

[Worm]

It was an ok episode. For a mini-season starter, I thought it could have been better. About half the time Carl annoyed me, and about half the time I enjoyed his scenes. I was more annoyed by Rick's character/acting than I was by Carl that episode.

I can't wait to get some more insight into where everyone else is at... looks like we will get some next week.

 

[Jayrok]

Its funny, Carl had no hesitation in offing his mom

Different mindset. He wanted to be strong and show everyone he was capable of doing what needed to be done. And as others have said, putting her out of her misery didn't mean he would be alone to survive on his own. He realized he needed and wanted his dad and didn't want to try and survive alone without him.

Now if Michonne had already been there... maybe he might have jumped the gun and shot rick thinking he was putting him out of his misery.

 

[packersfan]

I can't wait to get some more insight into where everyone else is at... looks like we will get some next week.

Based on the interviews I've seen a big part of the final 8 episodes is going to be looking at all of the different splintered groups so what we saw last night would seem to be a precursor of what to expect with the other characters as well. Not sure if it will be as detailed with every one, but there's clearly an attempt being made to tell more character-driven stories this season and last night was another example of that.

 

[Jayrok]

Maybe they'll do a webisode on Joe from Joe's BBQ.

 

[mr roboto]

Its funny, Carl had no hesitation in offing his mom

The producer of the show was asked a question like this on Talking Dead. Short version is that he (Carl) would be alone if he killed Rick...so instead of livinga lone he was just giving up and willing to let zombie Rick kill him

Bingo. And that was the moment of clarity for Carl. That's when he realized he's not quite the adult he thinks he is. He's not capable just yet of surviving on his own. More importantly - and this is rather huge when it comes to his relationship with Rick - he doesn't want th, there sure are a lot of fanboys in this thread.

but only one #1

Yup, I'm a big fan of The Walking Dead. I feel terrible. Just terrible I tell you. And I can't believe I'm posting in a thread about The Walking Dead expressing my appreciation of the show. I mean, what's up with that? You sure have showed me.

shady's not the brightest bulb on the tree. Don't worry about it.

 

[packersfan]

Its funny, Carl had no hesitation in offing his mom

The producer of the show was asked a question like this on Talking Dead. Short version is that he (Carl) would be alone if he killed Rick...so instead of livinga lone he was just giving up and willing to let zombie Rick kill him

Bingo. And that was the moment of clarity for Carl. That's when he realized he's not quite the adult he thinks he is. He's not capable just yet of surviving on his own. More importantly - and this is rather huge when it comes to his relationship with Rick - he doesn't want th, there sure are a lot of fanboys in this thread.

but only one #1

Yup, I'm a big fan of The Walking Dead. I feel terrible. Just terrible I tell you. And I can't believe I'm posting in a thread about The Walking Dead expressing my appreciation of the show. I mean, what's up with that? You sure have showed me.

shady's not the brightest bulb on the tree. Don't worry about it.

He does seem rather intent on proving that point.

 

[SacramentoBob]

Its funny, Carl had no hesitation in offing his mom

No sympathy for whores.