I doubt Chokey guy will recognize Rick again.The only one around for the "ball" part was Rick.. and IMO, that would bepackersfan said:I don't remember what he looked like. No idea if he was part of the gang that got Daryl. I'm assuming the ball comes into play at some point to make everyone, and especially Rick, remember who this guy is.stbugs said:Crap, I forgot to look for this. Did the guy who saw Rick live? I thought it would be dumb as the toilet zombie would have saw him first (those guys had to have smelled a lot), but we definitely would have known in the circle around Daryl.to have him just start bouncing a ball and have Rick go OMG I KNOW HIM!!!
I'd say it will either be the whistling, or the guy Rick watched get chocked out recognizes Rick before Rick realizes who they are.
They have a very heavy handed way to move the plot along.Beth being kidnapped by the only Human they've seen in weeks who just happens to spot her in the middle of the night in the middle of nowhere.
He was fairly prominent for a while on Sons of Anarchy. Very recognizable face.packersfan said:I do too and I remember him from China Beach. But I'm not sure how well-known he was. I wouldn't be surprised if most fans have no clue that's the guy from the house.Jules Winnfield said:I remember Jeff from an episode of X-Files.packersfan said:Much better episode than the last two. Good call by those who said Jeff Kober would be coming back although I'm guessing 90% of the people watching the show have no clue that's the same guy Rick dealt with back in the house.
Everybody's going to Sanctuary. I think it's safe to say whoever took Beth took her there too.
It was one called "Ice"
What if it was the current occupant of the house? They return from wharever they are (supply run?) and come back to find the windows boarded up and cans strung up around the perimeter. So, they decide to stay in the car to scope out the folks that have taken over their spot.They have a very heavy handed way to move the plot along.Beth being kidnapped by the only Human they've seen in weeks who just happens to spot her in the middle of the night in the middle of nowhere.
I assume dead walker smell to camoflauge her while she slept?Why the #### was Maggie just laying on the ground around a bunch of walkers?
Can't go in a building?I assume dead walker smell to camoflauge her while she slept?Why the #### was Maggie just laying on the ground around a bunch of walkers?
In his defense, that zombie horde was pretty damn quiet and Darryl was feeling all jumpy&quoI really wanted Bob to bite it last night. It would have been perfect, he gives Sasha a kiss and continues down the road. Sasha finds Maggie and they decide to go find him, but they stumble upon him being eaten and Sasha has to carry the guilt that she never should have left his side.
That my friends would have been good writing.
Overall a solid episode. The only complaint is Darryl just opening the door without looking. I mean, I know you think it is the dog, but at least look out the door first.
What if it was the current occupant of the house? They return from wharever they are (supply run?) and come back to find the windows boarded up and cans strung up around the perimeter. So, they decide to stay in the car to scope out the folks that have taken over their spot.They have a very heavy handed way to move the plot along.Beth being kidnapped by the only Human they've seen in weeks who just happens to spot her in the middle of the night in the middle of nowhere.
Walkers come, overrun the place, and suddenly a live human comes running out of the dark. They grab her, throw her in the car, snd take off without looking back.
This is how I saw it as playing out.
That was sort of the point. Daryl had just gotten comfortable and even said he was willing to try and make it work with the inhabitants, mainly to keep Beth safe. I thought it worked out well. We, as the viewer, could see through the slots that it wasn't just the dog, but he got too comfortable. Lesson learned.I really wanted Bob to bite it last night. It would have been perfect, he gives Sasha a kiss and continues down the road. Sasha finds Maggie and they decide to go find him, but they stumble upon him being eaten and Sasha has to carry the guilt that she never should have left his side.
That my friends would have been good writing.
Overall a solid episode. The only complaint is Darryl just opening the door without looking. I mean, I know you think it is the dog, but at least look out the door first.
so, will there be an explanation as to why the zombie hordes have bypassed this place until now?What if it was the current occupant of the house? They return from wharever they are (supply run?) and come back to find the windows boarded up and cans strung up around the perimeter. So, they decide to stay in the car to scope out the folks that have taken over their spot.They have a very heavy handed way to move the plot along.Beth being kidnapped by the only Human they've seen in weeks who just happens to spot her in the middle of the night in the middle of nowhere.
Walkers come, overrun the place, and suddenly a live human comes running out of the dark. They grab her, throw her in the car, snd take off without looking back.
This is how I saw it as playing out.![]()
Best episode in a long while and you can't quell the complaints. I agree with you 100%. Daryl and Beth mentioned a hundred times that everything was too clean and too fresh to not be inhabited. I mean, they literally spelled out the fact that someone was coming back.
I think your thoughts are very plausible, especially since a Caddy with a cross on the back window sure seems like it could be the car of someone who owned a funeral home.
My other thought is that that house is a trap (either always is or just that one time). The supplies were so neat and there weren't a ton of them, just enough to get people to sit down and relax. Magically, a dog just appears at the front door? What if the dog was put there by the person in the Caddy to attract walkers to the door? Maybe they didn't want to kidnap Beth and thought the walkers would kill the house guests? When they saw Daryl they didn't want to fight him so they took off.
Seemed like a lot of walkers streamed out of the building. I think Maggie was looking for one walker to do the sign and got ambushed by too many and hid. I don't think she slept there, because she wasn't that far in front of Bob and Sasha. I think she had only been there a little while. I could be wrong, but I thought she said something to that effect.Can't go in a building?I assume dead walker smell to camoflauge her while she slept?Why the #### was Maggie just laying on the ground around a bunch of walkers?
She wasn't sleeping. She said that she came into the town to find a walker and ended up encountering more than she could handle. She was "hiding."I assume dead walker smell to camoflauge her while she slept?Why the #### was Maggie just laying on the ground around a bunch of walkers?
Just to get under your skin.so, will there be an explanation as to why the zombie hordes have bypassed this place until now?What if it was the current occupant of the house? They return from wharever they are (supply run?) and come back to find the windows boarded up and cans strung up around the perimeter. So, they decide to stay in the car to scope out the folks that have taken over their spot.Walkers come, overrun the place, and suddenly a live human comes running out of the dark. They grab her, throw her in the car, snd take off without looking back.They have a very heavy handed way to move the plot along.Beth being kidnapped by the only Human they've seen in weeks who just happens to spot her in the middle of the night in the middle of nowhere.
This is how I saw it as playing out.Best episode in a long while and you can't quell the complaints. I agree with you 100%. Daryl and Beth mentioned a hundred times that everything was too clean and too fresh to not be inhabited. I mean, they literally spelled out the fact that someone was coming back.
I think your thoughts are very plausible, especially since a Caddy with a cross on the back window sure seems like it could be the car of someone who owned a funeral home.
My other thought is that that house is a trap (either always is or just that one time). The supplies were so neat and there weren't a ton of them, just enough to get people to sit down and relax. Magically, a dog just appears at the front door? What if the dog was put there by the person in the Caddy to attract walkers to the door? Maybe they didn't want to kidnap Beth and thought the walkers would kill the house guests? When they saw Daryl they didn't want to fight him so they took off.
Huh? Why do we think the hordes have bypassed this place? The person(s) had zombies in the house and most likely had many more done up like that. It is very possible they had a shack full of them, just like Herschel and the farm. Seems really plausible to me that they let the dog go to the door and then let out a little herd that they kept on hand to do their little paint jobs. Do you think that those 3 in the house were the only ones this person(s) has painted up? Herschel didn't want to let his "friends" go and this person seemed like they were in the same thought process that zombies were just dead people like them and deserved a funeral. It seems like a pretty easy jump to think this person collected zombies just like Herschel.so, will there be an explanation as to why the zombie hordes have bypassed this place until now?What if it was the current occupant of the house? They return from wharever they are (supply run?) and come back to find the windows boarded up and cans strung up around the perimeter. So, they decide to stay in the car to scope out the folks that have taken over their spot.They have a very heavy handed way to move the plot along.Beth being kidnapped by the only Human they've seen in weeks who just happens to spot her in the middle of the night in the middle of nowhere.
Walkers come, overrun the place, and suddenly a live human comes running out of the dark. They grab her, throw her in the car, snd take off without looking back.
This is how I saw it as playing out.![]()
Best episode in a long while and you can't quell the complaints. I agree with you 100%. Daryl and Beth mentioned a hundred times that everything was too clean and too fresh to not be inhabited. I mean, they literally spelled out the fact that someone was coming back.
I think your thoughts are very plausible, especially since a Caddy with a cross on the back window sure seems like it could be the car of someone who owned a funeral home.
My other thought is that that house is a trap (either always is or just that one time). The supplies were so neat and there weren't a ton of them, just enough to get people to sit down and relax. Magically, a dog just appears at the front door? What if the dog was put there by the person in the Caddy to attract walkers to the door? Maybe they didn't want to kidnap Beth and thought the walkers would kill the house guests? When they saw Daryl they didn't want to fight him so they took off.
I was thinking that too after Beth got kidnapped. Maybe that house was designed as a honey pot or something. The kidnapper fixes it up to make it look inviting, stocks it with food, and comes back every few days to see if anybody's there.What if it was the current occupant of the house? They return from wharever they are (supply run?) and come back to find the windows boarded up and cans strung up around the perimeter. So, they decide to stay in the car to scope out the folks that have taken over their spot.They have a very heavy handed way to move the plot along.Beth being kidnapped by the only Human they've seen in weeks who just happens to spot her in the middle of the night in the middle of nowhere.
Walkers come, overrun the place, and suddenly a live human comes running out of the dark. They grab her, throw her in the car, snd take off without looking back.
This is how I saw it as playing out.![]()
Best episode in a long while and you can't quell the complaints. I agree with you 100%. Daryl and Beth mentioned a hundred times that everything was too clean and too fresh to not be inhabited. I mean, they literally spelled out the fact that someone was coming back.
I think your thoughts are very plausible, especially since a Caddy with a cross on the back window sure seems like it could be the car of someone who owned a funeral home.
My other thought is that that house is a trap (either always is or just that one time). The supplies were so neat and there weren't a ton of them, just enough to get people to sit down and relax. Magically, a dog just appears at the front door? What if the dog was put there by the person in the Caddy to attract walkers to the door? Maybe they didn't want to kidnap Beth and thought the walkers would kill the house guests? When they saw Daryl they didn't want to fight him so they took off.
Help me out, guys. I'm not understamding the idea of the house being a trap. Why would someone want to trap people and release walkers on them?I was thinking that too after Beth got kidnapped. Maybe that house was designed as a honey pot or something. The kidnapper fixes it up to make it look inviting, stocks it with food, and comes back every few days to see if anybody's there.What if it was the current occupant of the house? They return from wharever they are (supply run?) and come back to find the windows boarded up and cans strung up around the perimeter. So, they decide to stay in the car to scope out the folks that have taken over their spot.Walkers come, overrun the place, and suddenly a live human comes running out of the dark. They grab her, throw her in the car, snd take off without looking back.They have a very heavy handed way to move the plot along.Beth being kidnapped by the only Human they've seen in weeks who just happens to spot her in the middle of the night in the middle of nowhere.
This is how I saw it as playing out.Best episode in a long while and you can't quell the complaints. I agree with you 100%. Daryl and Beth mentioned a hundred times that everything was too clean and too fresh to not be inhabited. I mean, they literally spelled out the fact that someone was coming back.
I think your thoughts are very plausible, especially since a Caddy with a cross on the back window sure seems like it could be the car of someone who owned a funeral home.
My other thought is that that house is a trap (either always is or just that one time). The supplies were so neat and there weren't a ton of them, just enough to get people to sit down and relax. Magically, a dog just appears at the front door? What if the dog was put there by the person in the Caddy to attract walkers to the door? Maybe they didn't want to kidnap Beth and thought the walkers would kill the house guests? When they saw Daryl they didn't want to fight him so they took off.
Why is it stupid? I don't get comments like that. We were given the whole Michonne and buddies explanation and Rick/Glenn's escape as background, so what she did seemed like the perfect thing to do to hide. Laying between two smelly zombies is good camouflage. It fits perfectly into the lore we have been given.She wasn't sleeping. She said that she came into the town to find a walker and ended up encountering more than she could handle. She was "hiding."I assume dead walker smell to camoflauge her while she slept?Why the #### was Maggie just laying on the ground around a bunch of walkers?
I know that's still stupid, but that's what happened.
If the house were a trap, they'd spend a lot of time cleaning it up after each incident.What if it was the current occupant of the house? They return from wharever they are (supply run?) and come back to find the windows boarded up and cans strung up around the perimeter. So, they decide to stay in the car to scope out the folks that have taken over their spot.They have a very heavy handed way to move the plot along.Beth being kidnapped by the only Human they've seen in weeks who just happens to spot her in the middle of the night in the middle of nowhere.
Walkers come, overrun the place, and suddenly a live human comes running out of the dark. They grab her, throw her in the car, snd take off without looking back.
This is how I saw it as playing out.![]()
Best episode in a long while and you can't quell the complaints. I agree with you 100%. Daryl and Beth mentioned a hundred times that everything was too clean and too fresh to not be inhabited. I mean, they literally spelled out the fact that someone was coming back.
I think your thoughts are very plausible, especially since a Caddy with a cross on the back window sure seems like it could be the car of someone who owned a funeral home.
My other thought is that that house is a trap (either always is or just that one time). The supplies were so neat and there weren't a ton of them, just enough to get people to sit down and relax. Magically, a dog just appears at the front door? What if the dog was put there by the person in the Caddy to attract walkers to the door? Maybe they didn't want to kidnap Beth and thought the walkers would kill the house guests? When they saw Daryl they didn't want to fight him so they took off.
But do most people even remember what the choked out guy looks like? Sure they can put it in the opening previews (and I'm sure it will be done that way in some fashion as a reminder) but how else will anyone even know who Kober is unless you just happen to know who Jeff Kober is? Plus "Joe" never saw Rick and Rick never saw Joe. There has to be some way for everyone, Rick included, to have that "A-ha" moment where the realization sets in that Ball Guy is in the mix.The only one around for the "ball" part was Rick.. and IMO, that would bepackersfan said:I don't remember what he looked like. No idea if he was part of the gang that got Daryl. I'm assuming the ball comes into play at some point to make everyone, and especially Rick, remember who this guy is.stbugs said:Crap, I forgot to look for this. Did the guy who saw Rick live? I thought it would be dumb as the toilet zombie would have saw him first (those guys had to have smelled a lot), but we definitely would have known in the circle around Daryl.to have him just start bouncing a ball and have Rick go OMG I KNOW HIM!!!
I'd say it will either be the whistling, or the guy Rick watched get chocked out recognizes Rick before Rick realizes who they are.
The person in the house was painting up zombies, i.e. they aren't all there. If they are alone, they are probably nuts by now. Look at Morgan, he lost his son and went off the deep end to the point that he didn't recognize Rick right away and had gone a bit crazy. Also, by trap, I wasn't thinking that it could always be a trap, but if it is a crazy person, maybe they like capturing live people, killing them and then painting them up as well. Not every person that lived is going to be sane.Help me out, guys. I'm not understamding the idea of the house being a trap. Why would someone want to trap people and release walkers on them?I was thinking that too after Beth got kidnapped. Maybe that house was designed as a honey pot or something. The kidnapper fixes it up to make it look inviting, stocks it with food, and comes back every few days to see if anybody's there.What if it was the current occupant of the house? They return from wharever they are (supply run?) and come back to find the windows boarded up and cans strung up around the perimeter. So, they decide to stay in the car to scope out the folks that have taken over their spot.Walkers come, overrun the place, and suddenly a live human comes running out of the dark. They grab her, throw her in the car, snd take off without looking back.They have a very heavy handed way to move the plot along.Beth being kidnapped by the only Human they've seen in weeks who just happens to spot her in the middle of the night in the middle of nowhere.
This is how I saw it as playing out.Best episode in a long while and you can't quell the complaints. I agree with you 100%. Daryl and Beth mentioned a hundred times that everything was too clean and too fresh to not be inhabited. I mean, they literally spelled out the fact that someone was coming back.
I think your thoughts are very plausible, especially since a Caddy with a cross on the back window sure seems like it could be the car of someone who owned a funeral home.
My other thought is that that house is a trap (either always is or just that one time). The supplies were so neat and there weren't a ton of them, just enough to get people to sit down and relax. Magically, a dog just appears at the front door? What if the dog was put there by the person in the Caddy to attract walkers to the door? Maybe they didn't want to kidnap Beth and thought the walkers would kill the house guests? When they saw Daryl they didn't want to fight him so they took off.
Or do you think it will be explained later?
I agree with that. I have some thoughts, but my main thought is that there is a crazy person in that house, probably the funeral home owner. They may have been sane, but over time, being alone, they have turned into a real crazy person who preps zombies to be buried/cremated/who knows what. I don't think the house is a honeypot trap, just saying that that is possible and went through my mind. I do think the crazy person would have a stock of zombies to work on (see Herschel's barn), especially since they like their house to be clean, I would bet they want the graveyard to stay pristine as well. I bet they even mow the lawn.If the house were a trap, they'd spend a lot of time cleaning it up after each incident.What if it was the current occupant of the house? They return from wharever they are (supply run?) and come back to find the windows boarded up and cans strung up around the perimeter. So, they decide to stay in the car to scope out the folks that have taken over their spot.They have a very heavy handed way to move the plot along.Beth being kidnapped by the only Human they've seen in weeks who just happens to spot her in the middle of the night in the middle of nowhere.
Walkers come, overrun the place, and suddenly a live human comes running out of the dark. They grab her, throw her in the car, snd take off without looking back.
This is how I saw it as playing out.![]()
Best episode in a long while and you can't quell the complaints. I agree with you 100%. Daryl and Beth mentioned a hundred times that everything was too clean and too fresh to not be inhabited. I mean, they literally spelled out the fact that someone was coming back.
I think your thoughts are very plausible, especially since a Caddy with a cross on the back window sure seems like it could be the car of someone who owned a funeral home.
My other thought is that that house is a trap (either always is or just that one time). The supplies were so neat and there weren't a ton of them, just enough to get people to sit down and relax. Magically, a dog just appears at the front door? What if the dog was put there by the person in the Caddy to attract walkers to the door? Maybe they didn't want to kidnap Beth and thought the walkers would kill the house guests? When they saw Daryl they didn't want to fight him so they took off.
LOL, forgot about that. Note that it wasn't the zombie cheek he scratched off, it was the makeup/paint. Still, probably well water, so sink might have worked.Best part of the episode was Daryl scratching off the cheek of the corpse and then later using that hand to dig into the jar of pigs feet and toss it in his mouth. Yummy!
I get what you're saying. I should have mentioned in my previous post that I was thinking the only other explanation would be that they are just plain nuts.The person in the house was painting up zombies, i.e. they aren't all there. If they are alone, they are probably nuts by now. Look at Morgan, he lost his son and went off the deep end to the point that he didn't recognize Rick right away and had gone a bit crazy. Also, by trap, I wasn't thinking that it could always be a trap, but if it is a crazy person, maybe they like capturing live people, killing them and then painting them up as well. Not every person that lived is going to be sane.On the one time trap, that person clearly was "dedicated" to keeping up that house and to giving zombies proper funerals. Based on the fact that no walkers appeared to be around the area, I think it is probably the best assumption to think that they cleared that area by putting them into a shed/barn like Herschel's farm. This person, clearly would be sensitive to intruders, almost like an extreme OCD person, so I could see them thinking that the walkers could help them get rid of the intruders and then they could put the walkers back and go back to their labor of love.Help me out, guys. I'm not understamding the idea of the house being a trap. Why would someone want to trap people and release walkers on them?Or do you think it will be explained later?I was thinking that too after Beth got kidnapped. Maybe that house was designed as a honey pot or something. The kidnapper fixes it up to make it look inviting, stocks it with food, and comes back every few days to see if anybody's there.What if it was the current occupant of the house? They return from wharever they are (supply run?) and come back to find the windows boarded up and cans strung up around the perimeter. So, they decide to stay in the car to scope out the folks that have taken over their spot.Walkers come, overrun the place, and suddenly a live human comes running out of the dark. They grab her, throw her in the car, snd take off without looking back.They have a very heavy handed way to move the plot along.Beth being kidnapped by the only Human they've seen in weeks who just happens to spot her in the middle of the night in the middle of nowhere.
This is how I saw it as playing out.Best episode in a long while and you can't quell the complaints. I agree with you 100%. Daryl and Beth mentioned a hundred times that everything was too clean and too fresh to not be inhabited. I mean, they literally spelled out the fact that someone was coming back.
I think your thoughts are very plausible, especially since a Caddy with a cross on the back window sure seems like it could be the car of someone who owned a funeral home.
My other thought is that that house is a trap (either always is or just that one time). The supplies were so neat and there weren't a ton of them, just enough to get people to sit down and relax. Magically, a dog just appears at the front door? What if the dog was put there by the person in the Caddy to attract walkers to the door? Maybe they didn't want to kidnap Beth and thought the walkers would kill the house guests? When they saw Daryl they didn't want to fight him so they took off.
Also, how about the folks from the Sanctuary? If Daryl's new buddies are from there, the first thing they discussed when they found Michonne's stuff was raping her. I think this is a long shot, but maybe this house is their house trap. This is an extreme long shot as I don't think they would keep that house clean like that, etc.
Look, that house was a funeral home. funeral home people are really freaky. Who knows why they do it? I kind of envision a group right out of Texas Chainsaw Massacre. The zombie apocalypse is the perfect era for them to thrive.Help me out, guys. I'm not understamding the idea of the house being a trap. Why would someone want to trap people and release walkers on them?I was thinking that too after Beth got kidnapped. Maybe that house was designed as a honey pot or something. The kidnapper fixes it up to make it look inviting, stocks it with food, and comes back every few days to see if anybody's there.What if it was the current occupant of the house? They return from wharever they are (supply run?) and come back to find the windows boarded up and cans strung up around the perimeter. So, they decide to stay in the car to scope out the folks that have taken over their spot.Walkers come, overrun the place, and suddenly a live human comes running out of the dark. They grab her, throw her in the car, snd take off without looking back.They have a very heavy handed way to move the plot along.Beth being kidnapped by the only Human they've seen in weeks who just happens to spot her in the middle of the night in the middle of nowhere.
This is how I saw it as playing out.Best episode in a long while and you can't quell the complaints. I agree with you 100%. Daryl and Beth mentioned a hundred times that everything was too clean and too fresh to not be inhabited. I mean, they literally spelled out the fact that someone was coming back.
I think your thoughts are very plausible, especially since a Caddy with a cross on the back window sure seems like it could be the car of someone who owned a funeral home.
My other thought is that that house is a trap (either always is or just that one time). The supplies were so neat and there weren't a ton of them, just enough to get people to sit down and relax. Magically, a dog just appears at the front door? What if the dog was put there by the person in the Caddy to attract walkers to the door? Maybe they didn't want to kidnap Beth and thought the walkers would kill the house guests? When they saw Daryl they didn't want to fight him so they took off.
Or do you think it will be explained later?
They never saw each other, which is why Rick would have the upper hand. He heard the whistling and the ball bouncing. I am 99% sure that Joe was bouncing the ball as Rick heard that again while below the porch and only Joe was on the porch. I think it could be an easy a-ha moment. Rick probably won't see another living person before Terminus, so should be easy to remember and it could just click and then he recognizes Joe's buddy that got choked out. Also, is it really a stretch to remember a ball bouncing guy when not a single other person Rick has ever met since the outbreak has bounced a ball?But do most people even remember what the choked out guy looks like? Sure they can put it in the opening previews (and I'm sure it will be done that way in some fashion as a reminder) but how else will anyone even know who Kober is unless you just happen to know who Jeff Kober is? Plus "Joe" never saw Rick and Rick never saw Joe. There has to be some way for everyone, Rick included, to have that "A-ha" moment where the realization sets in that Ball Guy is in the mix.The only one around for the "ball" part was Rick.. and IMO, that would bepackersfan said:I don't remember what he looked like. No idea if he was part of the gang that got Daryl. I'm assuming the ball comes into play at some point to make everyone, and especially Rick, remember who this guy is.stbugs said:Crap, I forgot to look for this. Did the guy who saw Rick live? I thought it would be dumb as the toilet zombie would have saw him first (those guys had to have smelled a lot), but we definitely would have known in the circle around Daryl.to have him just start bouncing a ball and have Rick go OMG I KNOW HIM!!!
I'd say it will either be the whistling, or the guy Rick watched get chocked out recognizes Rick before Rick realizes who they are.
ETA - I'm assuming Joe and Rick meet up again at some point. Otherwise I'm not sure what the point is of having Kober on the show in the first place.
Got it. When I said trap, I was first and foremost thinking a trap, i.e. the walkers were lot out by the crazy person. It did also pass through my mind that it was all just setup a little too nicely to make people feel comfortable as well, so not out of the realm of possibility that more people have been trapped there before.I get what you're saying. I should have mentioned in my previous post that I was thinking the only other explanation would be that they are just plain nuts.The person in the house was painting up zombies, i.e. they aren't all there. If they are alone, they are probably nuts by now. Look at Morgan, he lost his son and went off the deep end to the point that he didn't recognize Rick right away and had gone a bit crazy. Also, by trap, I wasn't thinking that it could always be a trap, but if it is a crazy person, maybe they like capturing live people, killing them and then painting them up as well. Not every person that lived is going to be sane.On the one time trap, that person clearly was "dedicated" to keeping up that house and to giving zombies proper funerals. Based on the fact that no walkers appeared to be around the area, I think it is probably the best assumption to think that they cleared that area by putting them into a shed/barn like Herschel's farm. This person, clearly would be sensitive to intruders, almost like an extreme OCD person, so I could see them thinking that the walkers could help them get rid of the intruders and then they could put the walkers back and go back to their labor of love.Help me out, guys. I'm not understamding the idea of the house being a trap. Why would someone want to trap people and release walkers on them?Or do you think it will be explained later?I was thinking that too after Beth got kidnapped. Maybe that house was designed as a honey pot or something. The kidnapper fixes it up to make it look inviting, stocks it with food, and comes back every few days to see if anybody's there.What if it was the current occupant of the house? They return from wharever they are (supply run?) and come back to find the windows boarded up and cans strung up around the perimeter. So, they decide to stay in the car to scope out the folks that have taken over their spot.Walkers come, overrun the place, and suddenly a live human comes running out of the dark. They grab her, throw her in the car, snd take off without looking back.They have a very heavy handed way to move the plot along.Beth being kidnapped by the only Human they've seen in weeks who just happens to spot her in the middle of the night in the middle of nowhere.
This is how I saw it as playing out.Best episode in a long while and you can't quell the complaints. I agree with you 100%. Daryl and Beth mentioned a hundred times that everything was too clean and too fresh to not be inhabited. I mean, they literally spelled out the fact that someone was coming back.
I think your thoughts are very plausible, especially since a Caddy with a cross on the back window sure seems like it could be the car of someone who owned a funeral home.
My other thought is that that house is a trap (either always is or just that one time). The supplies were so neat and there weren't a ton of them, just enough to get people to sit down and relax. Magically, a dog just appears at the front door? What if the dog was put there by the person in the Caddy to attract walkers to the door? Maybe they didn't want to kidnap Beth and thought the walkers would kill the house guests? When they saw Daryl they didn't want to fight him so they took off.
Also, how about the folks from the Sanctuary? If Daryl's new buddies are from there, the first thing they discussed when they found Michonne's stuff was raping her. I think this is a long shot, but maybe this house is their house trap. This is an extreme long shot as I don't think they would keep that house clean like that, etc.
They did have something like this on that British show I linked earlier though.If the house were a trap, they'd spend a lot of time cleaning it up after each incident.What if it was the current occupant of the house? They return from wharever they are (supply run?) and come back to find the windows boarded up and cans strung up around the perimeter. So, they decide to stay in the car to scope out the folks that have taken over their spot.They have a very heavy handed way to move the plot along.Beth being kidnapped by the only Human they've seen in weeks who just happens to spot her in the middle of the night in the middle of nowhere.
Walkers come, overrun the place, and suddenly a live human comes running out of the dark. They grab her, throw her in the car, snd take off without looking back.
This is how I saw it as playing out.![]()
Best episode in a long while and you can't quell the complaints. I agree with you 100%. Daryl and Beth mentioned a hundred times that everything was too clean and too fresh to not be inhabited. I mean, they literally spelled out the fact that someone was coming back.
I think your thoughts are very plausible, especially since a Caddy with a cross on the back window sure seems like it could be the car of someone who owned a funeral home.
My other thought is that that house is a trap (either always is or just that one time). The supplies were so neat and there weren't a ton of them, just enough to get people to sit down and relax. Magically, a dog just appears at the front door? What if the dog was put there by the person in the Caddy to attract walkers to the door? Maybe they didn't want to kidnap Beth and thought the walkers would kill the house guests? When they saw Daryl they didn't want to fight him so they took off.
I was thinking the clean house and stash of food was bait to attract people. Not sure of the purpose but that I'm sure we'll find out.If the house were a trap, they'd spend a lot of time cleaning it up after each incident.What if it was the current occupant of the house? They return from wharever they are (supply run?) and come back to find the windows boarded up and cans strung up around the perimeter. So, they decide to stay in the car to scope out the folks that have taken over their spot.They have a very heavy handed way to move the plot along.Beth being kidnapped by the only Human they've seen in weeks who just happens to spot her in the middle of the night in the middle of nowhere.
Walkers come, overrun the place, and suddenly a live human comes running out of the dark. They grab her, throw her in the car, snd take off without looking back.
This is how I saw it as playing out.![]()
Best episode in a long while and you can't quell the complaints. I agree with you 100%. Daryl and Beth mentioned a hundred times that everything was too clean and too fresh to not be inhabited. I mean, they literally spelled out the fact that someone was coming back.
I think your thoughts are very plausible, especially since a Caddy with a cross on the back window sure seems like it could be the car of someone who owned a funeral home.
My other thought is that that house is a trap (either always is or just that one time). The supplies were so neat and there weren't a ton of them, just enough to get people to sit down and relax. Magically, a dog just appears at the front door? What if the dog was put there by the person in the Caddy to attract walkers to the door? Maybe they didn't want to kidnap Beth and thought the walkers would kill the house guests? When they saw Daryl they didn't want to fight him so they took off.
Definitely possible, but the prepping of zombies for funerals seems to lead us in the direction of a loony tune. Someone that loony would also keep that house spectacularly clean.I was thinking the clean house and stash of food was bait to attract people. Not sure of the purpose but that I'm sure we'll find out.If the house were a trap, they'd spend a lot of time cleaning it up after each incident.What if it was the current occupant of the house? They return from wharever they are (supply run?) and come back to find the windows boarded up and cans strung up around the perimeter. So, they decide to stay in the car to scope out the folks that have taken over their spot.They have a very heavy handed way to move the plot along.Beth being kidnapped by the only Human they've seen in weeks who just happens to spot her in the middle of the night in the middle of nowhere.
Walkers come, overrun the place, and suddenly a live human comes running out of the dark. They grab her, throw her in the car, snd take off without looking back.
This is how I saw it as playing out.![]()
Best episode in a long while and you can't quell the complaints. I agree with you 100%. Daryl and Beth mentioned a hundred times that everything was too clean and too fresh to not be inhabited. I mean, they literally spelled out the fact that someone was coming back.
I think your thoughts are very plausible, especially since a Caddy with a cross on the back window sure seems like it could be the car of someone who owned a funeral home.
My other thought is that that house is a trap (either always is or just that one time). The supplies were so neat and there weren't a ton of them, just enough to get people to sit down and relax. Magically, a dog just appears at the front door? What if the dog was put there by the person in the Caddy to attract walkers to the door? Maybe they didn't want to kidnap Beth and thought the walkers would kill the house guests? When they saw Daryl they didn't want to fight him so they took off.
I'd be absolutely shocked if anything happened there at this time. Just possible misdirection by the preview.It is nice to have this thread back to discussing the show rather than discussing how bad the past couple episodes were, which they were. Amazing to think about how bad last week's was and how good this week's was. Next week's looks good as well.
Has anyone seen the previews? I am still amazed that no one commented on my spoiler before. If you watched the preview, this is not a spoiler.
Judith was no where to be seen and Tyrese seemed to have a speech with Carol about doing what you have to do, which seemed to imply they got rid of Judith
It is nice to have this thread back to discussing the show rather than discussing how bad the past couple episodes were, which they were. Amazing to think about how bad last week's was and how good this week's was. Next week's looks good as well.
Has anyone seen the previews? I am still amazed that no one commented on my spoiler before. If you watched the preview, this is not a spoiler.
Judith was no where to be seen and Tyrese seemed to have a speech with Carol about doing what you have to do, which seemed to imply they got rid of Judith
I also assumed it was them that sent the dog to the door.What if it was the current occupant of the house? They return from wharever they are (supply run?) and come back to find the windows boarded up and cans strung up around the perimeter. So, they decide to stay in the car to scope out the folks that have taken over their spot.They have a very heavy handed way to move the plot along.Beth being kidnapped by the only Human they've seen in weeks who just happens to spot her in the middle of the night in the middle of nowhere.
Walkers come, overrun the place, and suddenly a live human comes running out of the dark. They grab her, throw her in the car, snd take off without looking back.
This is how I saw it as playing out.
I guess I get the reasoning that the guy, while staring directly into Rick's eyes, may forget Rick's face seeing as he was more worried about getting chocked out.They never saw each other, which is why Rick would have the upper hand. He heard the whistling and the ball bouncing. I am 99% sure that Joe was bouncing the ball as Rick heard that again while below the porch and only Joe was on the porch. I think it could be an easy a-ha moment. Rick probably won't see another living person before Terminus, so should be easy to remember and it could just click and then he recognizes Joe's buddy that got choked out. Also, is it really a stretch to remember a ball bouncing guy when not a single other person Rick has ever met since the outbreak has bounced a ball?But do most people even remember what the choked out guy looks like? Sure they can put it in the opening previews (and I'm sure it will be done that way in some fashion as a reminder) but how else will anyone even know who Kober is unless you just happen to know who Jeff Kober is? Plus "Joe" never saw Rick and Rick never saw Joe. There has to be some way for everyone, Rick included, to have that "A-ha" moment where the realization sets in that Ball Guy is in the mix.The only one around for the "ball" part was Rick.. and IMO, that would bepackersfan said:I don't remember what he looked like. No idea if he was part of the gang that got Daryl. I'm assuming the ball comes into play at some point to make everyone, and especially Rick, remember who this guy is.stbugs said:Crap, I forgot to look for this. Did the guy who saw Rick live? I thought it would be dumb as the toilet zombie would have saw him first (those guys had to have smelled a lot), but we definitely would have known in the circle around Daryl.to have him just start bouncing a ball and have Rick go OMG I KNOW HIM!!!
I'd say it will either be the whistling, or the guy Rick watched get chocked out recognizes Rick before Rick realizes who they are.
ETA - I'm assuming Joe and Rick meet up again at some point. Otherwise I'm not sure what the point is of having Kober on the show in the first place.
I agree that the choked out guy would be hard pressed to remember Rick, seeing as he was being choked out and that Rick would not recognize him either. Nothing noteworthy about either and not a good meet and greet to remember.
Were they prepping zombies or were those just people being prepped at the time of the zombie apocalypse? Obviously, that house was a funeral home as it was next to a cemetary, it had a viewing room complete with coffin and piano for services, and it had a body prep room complete with gurnies for the corpses. I am not saying the owners weren't looney, as they were in the funeral business, but I didn't get the sense that the people were doing freaky thinks to zombies.Definitely possible, but the prepping of zombies for funerals seems to lead us in the direction of a loony tune. Someone that loony would also keep that house spectacularly clean.I was thinking the clean house and stash of food was bait to attract people. Not sure of the purpose but that I'm sure we'll find out.If the house were a trap, they'd spend a lot of time cleaning it up after each incident.What if it was the current occupant of the house? They return from wharever they are (supply run?) and come back to find the windows boarded up and cans strung up around the perimeter. So, they decide to stay in the car to scope out the folks that have taken over their spot.They have a very heavy handed way to move the plot along.Beth being kidnapped by the only Human they've seen in weeks who just happens to spot her in the middle of the night in the middle of nowhere.
Walkers come, overrun the place, and suddenly a live human comes running out of the dark. They grab her, throw her in the car, snd take off without looking back.
This is how I saw it as playing out.![]()
Best episode in a long while and you can't quell the complaints. I agree with you 100%. Daryl and Beth mentioned a hundred times that everything was too clean and too fresh to not be inhabited. I mean, they literally spelled out the fact that someone was coming back.
I think your thoughts are very plausible, especially since a Caddy with a cross on the back window sure seems like it could be the car of someone who owned a funeral home.
My other thought is that that house is a trap (either always is or just that one time). The supplies were so neat and there weren't a ton of them, just enough to get people to sit down and relax. Magically, a dog just appears at the front door? What if the dog was put there by the person in the Caddy to attract walkers to the door? Maybe they didn't want to kidnap Beth and thought the walkers would kill the house guests? When they saw Daryl they didn't want to fight him so they took off.
I had actually considered that maybe the owner sent the horde to the house, but thought that seemed even more implausible....but actually that appears to be what happened. To what purpose? We'll find out. I'm wondering if he expected/wanted them to die or run? If they ran, how would he know which way? How did he direct the horde to the house without being heard...I guess we'll find out (probably next season)I also assumed it was them that sent the dog to the door.What if it was the current occupant of the house? They return from wharever they are (supply run?) and come back to find the windows boarded up and cans strung up around the perimeter. So, they decide to stay in the car to scope out the folks that have taken over their spot.They have a very heavy handed way to move the plot along.Beth being kidnapped by the only Human they've seen in weeks who just happens to spot her in the middle of the night in the middle of nowhere.
Walkers come, overrun the place, and suddenly a live human comes running out of the dark. They grab her, throw her in the car, snd take off without looking back.
This is how I saw it as playing out.
I thought i remembered Daryl saying he was 1st to find him?Question about the opening, I had thought Rick was the first to meet up with Bob the drunk? And What was the point of showing Darryl and Glenn picking him up?
You're right I'm not remembering properly. Thought it was an odd flashback, I'm sure it has some meaning that I'm not figuring out.I thought i remembered Daryl saying he was 1st to find him?Question about the opening, I had thought Rick was the first to meet up with Bob the drunk? And What was the point of showing Darryl and Glenn picking him up?
The flashback was to tell Bob Stokey's backstory with the group...You're right I'm not remembering properly. Thought it was an odd flashback, I'm sure it has some meaning that I'm not figuring out.I thought i remembered Daryl saying he was 1st to find him?Question about the opening, I had thought Rick was the first to meet up with Bob the drunk? And What was the point of showing Darryl and Glenn picking him up?
Bob's life was the suck before he met Daryl and joined their group. He's happy just not to be wandering the woods alone.You're right I'm not remembering properly. Thought it was an odd flashback, I'm sure it has some meaning that I'm not figuring out.I thought i remembered Daryl saying he was 1st to find him?Question about the opening, I had thought Rick was the first to meet up with Bob the drunk? And What was the point of showing Darryl and Glenn picking him up?
It does feel a little cluttered and it seems more than likely people are gonna die. Carol seems a good bet to go. Maybe Bob and/or Sasha. Tyrese is a pretty big deal in the comics I believe but to this point he's been a marginal character so maybe he gets the axe with Abraham assuming a larger role. I thought there was a lot of foreshadowing last week about Beth possibly dying so I'd put her on the probable list.They are involving too many characters, in too many different locations. It is hard to even keep up with them all in an hour show. We haven't seen Rick in 2 episodes. I don't like not seeing some of the main characters for episodes at a time. They need to either kill some off or start joining some of them.
Lets see you have:
Rick/Michonne/Carl
Tyreese/Carol and the kids
Maggie/Bob/Sasha
Glenn and that group
Daryl and the new group
Beth and whoever took her