***OFFICIAL 'The Walking Dead' TV Series Thread*** (2 Viewers)

[packersfan]

Why were Rick and Tyresse digging 2 graves? Only Bob from the good guys died. Surely they weren't giving the Termites a proper burial.

Tyreese was digging a grave for Bob. Rick was digging one for Tyreese. He's gonna kill him once Bob is buried.

 

[Timmay]

So of the remaining characters from Rick's group, who dies next? Carol? Sasha?

 

[tommyboy]

what was/is the reason the group split up? seems unlike Rick to let Glen go, they've been together since the 2nd or 3rd episode

 

[mr roboto]

Tainted Meat line served to show that even when one develops a careful, planned approach to survival in this new world (Terminus thought they had a system figured out) you really don't.

 

[packersfan]

what was/is the reason the group split up? seems unlike Rick to let Glen go, they've been together since the 2nd or 3rd episode

Abraham is taking Eugene to DC. Rick ain't going anywhere without Daryl and Carol. I think Glenn and Maggie left just to keep the peace although both of them had a definite "Holy chit did you just see what he did?" look on their faces after Rick chopped Gareth to pieces.

 

[Buckna]

what was/is the reason the group split up? seems unlike Rick to let Glen go, they've been together since the 2nd or 3rd episode

Abraham is taking Eugene to DC. Rick ain't going anywhere without Daryl and Carol. I think Glenn and Maggie left just to keep the peace although both of them had a definite "Holy chit did you just see what he did?" look on their faces after Rick chopped Gareth to pieces.

Also, if it wasn't for Abraham and crew, Maggie & Glen never would have been reunited. Probably feel they owe them a debt.

 

[3C's]

what was/is the reason the group split up? seems unlike Rick to let Glen go, they've been together since the 2nd or 3rd episode

Maggie wanted some Tara action. Glenn had no choice but to go.

 

[packersfan]

Did Tara leave too? I assume she did but can't remember seeing her on the bus at the end.

If so, the Emmy Award winning episode of Tara, Maggie and Rosita's all-girl threesome remains very much alive.

 

[Buckna]

Did Tara leave too? I assume she did but can't remember seeing her on the bus at the end.

If so, the Emmy Award winning episode of Tara, Maggie and Rosita's all-girl threesome remains very much alive.

She did, she was the first to commit to go if he would stay another 24 hours. Then Abraham said "ok, but I want Glenn & Maggie too."

Sounds like Abe wants this threesome to happen too!

 

[tommyboy]

Did Tara leave too? I assume she did but can't remember seeing her on the bus at the end.

If so, the Emmy Award winning episode of Tara, Maggie and Rosita's all-girl threesome remains very much alive.

settle down, they're saving it for the finale

 

[packersfan]

Did Tara leave too? I assume she did but can't remember seeing her on the bus at the end.

If so, the Emmy Award winning episode of Tara, Maggie and Rosita's all-girl threesome remains very much alive.

She did, she was the first to commit to go if he would stay another 24 hours. Then Abraham said "ok, but I want Glenn & Maggie too."

Sounds like Abe wants this threesome to happen too!

Personally, I think it's the single-most important episode this show could do.

 

[snogger]

what was/is the reason the group split up? seems unlike Rick to let Glen go, they've been together since the 2nd or 3rd episode

Abraham is taking Eugene to DC. Rick ain't going anywhere without Daryl and Carol. I think Glenn and Maggie left just to keep the peace although both of them had a definite "Holy chit did you just see what he did?" look on their faces after Rick chopped Gareth to pieces.

That could have finished the deal for them.. But they already agreed to leave with them before the chop them all to hell scene..

Not to mention Abraham wasn't exactly holding back when he bashed his victims head in either

 

[Parrothead]

what was/is the reason the group split up? seems unlike Rick to let Glen go, they've been together since the 2nd or 3rd episode

Abraham is taking Eugene to DC. Rick ain't going anywhere without Daryl and Carol. I think Glenn and Maggie left just to keep the peace although both of them had a definite "Holy chit did you just see what he did?" look on their faces after Rick chopped Gareth to pieces.

That could have finished the deal for them.. But they already agreed to leave with them before the chop them all to hell scene..

Not to mention Abraham wasn't exactly holding back when he bashed his victims head in either

Abraham would kick Rick's ### in a one on one fight

 

[packersfan]

Rick's newfound single-minded approach is clearly a huge theme of this season. Be interesting to see how everyone responds to it. Pretty sure Father Gabriel wet himself seeing what Rick had done but he is probably still a bed wetter so not sure what that would really tell us.

 

[packersfan]

what was/is the reason the group split up? seems unlike Rick to let Glen go, they've been together since the 2nd or 3rd episode

Abraham is taking Eugene to DC. Rick ain't going anywhere without Daryl and Carol. I think Glenn and Maggie left just to keep the peace although both of them had a definite "Holy chit did you just see what he did?" look on their faces after Rick chopped Gareth to pieces.

That could have finished the deal for them.. But they already agreed to leave with them before the chop them all to hell scene..

Not to mention Abraham wasn't exactly holding back when he bashed his victims head in either

Abraham would kick Rick's ### in a one on one fight

I loved Abraham's note to Rick at the end.

 

[3C's]

what was/is the reason the group split up? seems unlike Rick to let Glen go, they've been together since the 2nd or 3rd episode

Abraham is taking Eugene to DC. Rick ain't going anywhere without Daryl and Carol. I think Glenn and Maggie left just to keep the peace although both of them had a definite "Holy chit did you just see what he did?" look on their faces after Rick chopped Gareth to pieces.

That could have finished the deal for them.. But they already agreed to leave with them before the chop them all to hell scene..

Not to mention Abraham wasn't exactly holding back when he bashed his victims head in either

Abraham would kick Rick's ### in a one on one fight

I loved Abraham's note to Rick at the end.

Big softy.

 

[snogger]

what was/is the reason the group split up? seems unlike Rick to let Glen go, they've been together since the 2nd or 3rd episode

Abraham is taking Eugene to DC. Rick ain't going anywhere without Daryl and Carol. I think Glenn and Maggie left just to keep the peace although both of them had a definite "Holy chit did you just see what he did?" look on their faces after Rick chopped Gareth to pieces.

That could have finished the deal for them.. But they already agreed to leave with them before the chop them all to hell scene..

Not to mention Abraham wasn't exactly holding back when he bashed his victims head in either

Abraham would kick Rick's ### in a one on one fight

I loved Abraham's note to Rick at the end.

Two good lines at the end.. The "Sorry for being a #-Hole.. come to D.C. the world needs Rick" and Bob's "Nightmares come to an end, but it doesn't have to end who you are" were nice touches.

 

[tommyboy]

what was/is the reason the group split up? seems unlike Rick to let Glen go, they've been together since the 2nd or 3rd episode

Abraham is taking Eugene to DC. Rick ain't going anywhere without Daryl and Carol. I think Glenn and Maggie left just to keep the peace although both of them had a definite "Holy chit did you just see what he did?" look on their faces after Rick chopped Gareth to pieces.

That could have finished the deal for them.. But they already agreed to leave with them before the chop them all to hell scene..

Not to mention Abraham wasn't exactly holding back when he bashed his victims head in either

I don't think it bothered them at all, probably more just the shock factor. But Maggie said "this is just 4 walls and a roof" meaning she's still in the here and now reality world whereas preacher man is not.

watch that scene again though, with rick listening to gareth, he says "we just didn't want to waste the ammo". That line is chilling but you don't realize it until a minute later when rick fulfills his promise. Sasah went Ted Bundy on the one guy, its about as brutal as you can get on TV honestly so if its shocking to us, imagine standing 10 feet away and seeing it like Maggie and Glen. So that's now two extreme scenes in this season that i'll never forget, the trough and the pews, both involved people kneeling. There seems to be a bit of an anti religion undercurrent developing here.

 

[packersfan]

what was/is the reason the group split up? seems unlike Rick to let Glen go, they've been together since the 2nd or 3rd episode

Abraham is taking Eugene to DC. Rick ain't going anywhere without Daryl and Carol. I think Glenn and Maggie left just to keep the peace although both of them had a definite "Holy chit did you just see what he did?" look on their faces after Rick chopped Gareth to pieces.

That could have finished the deal for them.. But they already agreed to leave with them before the chop them all to hell scene..

Not to mention Abraham wasn't exactly holding back when he bashed his victims head in either

Abraham would kick Rick's ### in a one on one fight

I loved Abraham's note to Rick at the end.

Two good lines at the end.. The "Sorry for being a #-Hole.. come to D.C. the world needs Rick" and Bob's "Nightmares come to an end, but it doesn't have to end who you are" were nice touches.

Yeah they've really hit all the right notes so far. The big moments have been sensational but even the quieter ones have been extremely well done as well. They've found a strong mix and are working it all very well.

 

[BigJohn]

How about Glen screaming at Rick 'It's not your choice!!' when talking to Abraham?

 

[TheIronSheik]

I don't get all the love for the show this season. When they showed the walkers in the school and the glass cracked, it's pretty obvious that that's not how real glass would react to pressure building up. This show is so fake. It's like, do the writers even try to keep it realistic anymore. Season 1 was great, but this show is no longer believable at all.

 

[packersfan]

Rick's "Besides, I already made you a promise" before hacking Gareth to shreds may have been the single coolest line ever spoken on the show. Rivals his "We need more guts" in Season 1.

"They're screwing with the wrong people" was real good too but the original scripted line was much better.

 

[cstu]

There seems to be a bit of an anti religion undercurrent developing here.

Developing? If there is a God he turned everyone's family into zombies you have to shoot in the head.

 

[TenTimes]

Did Tara leave too? I assume she did but can't remember seeing her on the bus at the end.

If so, the Emmy Award winning episode of Tara, Maggie and Rosita's all-girl threesome remains very much alive.

She did, she was the first to commit to go if he would stay another 24 hours. Then Abraham said "ok, but I want Glenn & Maggie too."

Sounds like Abe wants this threesome to happen too!

Personally, I think it's the single-most important episode this show could do.

What if the whole zombie outbreak is just Glenn's plan to land a threesome?

All this time we were thinking it was about a man and his son, all this time..

 

[pantherclub]

So there really is no twist at all to the priest?

Why was he reluctant to say where the school was?

Why does he wear his collar 24/7?

 

[3C's]

So there really is no twist at all to the priest?

Why was he reluctant to say where the school was?

Why does he wear his collar 24/7?

So people will take pity on him?

 

[packersfan]

Did Tara leave too? I assume she did but can't remember seeing her on the bus at the end.

If so, the Emmy Award winning episode of Tara, Maggie and Rosita's all-girl threesome remains very much alive.

She did, she was the first to commit to go if he would stay another 24 hours. Then Abraham said "ok, but I want Glenn & Maggie too."

Sounds like Abe wants this threesome to happen too!

Personally, I think it's the single-most important episode this show could do.

What if the whole zombie outbreak is just Glenn's plan to land a threesome?

All this time we were thinking it was about a man and his son, all this time..

I think it's safe to say the honeymoon is over and it's time to start spicing things up in the marriage.

 

[the moops]

The Termites, especially Gareth, were overly confident. They knew it was the preacher, who would do nothing, Karl (a kid), Tyrese the wimp, a baby, mullet and a few women. They could easily overwhelm Abraham.

Abraham wasn't in the church, was he?

 

[3C's]

The Termites, especially Gareth, were overly confident. They knew it was the preacher, who would do nothing, Karl (a kid), Tyrese the wimp, a baby, mullet and a few women. They could easily overwhelm Abraham.

Abraham wasn't in the church, was he?

I can't remember now. I think not. For some reason I pictured him being in there with mullet.

 

[packersfan]

They also knew Daryl was gone. They had no real reason at all to fear anyone there although Martin probably told them Tyreese is kinda good at hitting but not killing.

 

[Thunderlips]

Another gotcha zombie moment...in the woods...looking around...check through the scope and WHAM...two zombies a foot away. Love that these things can walk through woods over leaves and limbs without a sound.

I didn't read the comics but if Tyrese's character was even remotely likable...they've ruined him on this show. I honestly just cannot stand him now. Sissy @zz waste of a human...sure, he'll eventually graduate to bad@zzery but I'm done with him. And that pained, effeminate look he had when Rick and crew were taking care of business...damn. These writers should be ashamed for turning an actor who gave us Cutty into this wimp.

So Bob was bitten afterall...not on the side or a leg...but up on his freakin' shoulder and NO ONE knew?

Glad they didn't drag on this Termite nonsense...

But honestly...the Termites know who's left in the church so they decide it's somehow OK to enter the front door...and stroll straight down the aisle? Ridiculous...NO ONE would do this...even if they were certain most of the guns were gone...even one gun in that church and you're all eating lead.

Decent overall episode...thankfully they're not dragging out this new "hunt for the missing girl" angle while we camp out, like they did in season 2...

Technically Cutty from the Cut became a wuss too. Game just wasn't in him no mo.

 

[Porkchop Express]

So it's established that a bite causes death.

It's an infection. A staph infection would also cause death. Or a heart attack.

So a penicillin shot after a bite would save you.

 

[tdoss]

So it's established that a bite causes death.

It's an infection. A staph infection would also cause death. Or a heart attack.

So a penicillin shot after a bite would save you.

They can find formula for the baby...but damned if they can find antibiotics or even some damned alcohol/peroxide.

 

[cstu]

So it's established that a bite causes death.

It's an infection. A staph infection would also cause death. Or a heart attack.

So a penicillin shot after a bite would save you.

Gee, why didn't Herschel think of that?

 

[tdoss]

Ya gotta love how zombies can tear down a fence line but can't break a window without a considerable amount of effort and numerous zombies.

 

[3C's]

Ya gotta love how zombies can tear down a fence line but can't break a window without a considerable amount of effort and numerous zombies.

muscles atrophied. strength in numbers.

 

[Porkchop Express]

So it's established that a bite causes death.

It's an infection. A staph infection would also cause death. Or a heart attack.

So a penicillin shot after a bite would save you.

Gee, why didn't Herschel think of that?

Trying to understand the rules for the show. Ive seen people get shot, stabbed, beaten to a pulp without any worry of infection. But somehow a bite means you are dead in a few days.

 

[TheIronSheik]

Wait. Zombie bites can kill you? When did this become a thing?

 

[tonydead]

Also, us who didn't draft Judith agreed AMC would not kill a baby.

I've brought this up before, but, they've killed off 6yo children, what's the difference? Probably worse for 6 year old because they can somewhat comprehend the terror they are going through.

Judith has to be needed for a greater part of the plot for some reason to be keeping her alive all this time. Otherwise what's the point.

 

[3C's]

So it's established that a bite causes death.

It's an infection. A staph infection would also cause death. Or a heart attack.

So a penicillin shot after a bite would save you.

Gee, why didn't Herschel think of that?

Trying to understand the rules for the show. Ive seen people get shot, stabbed, beaten to a pulp without any worry of infection. But somehow a bite means you are dead in a few days.

The biters have a special sort of bacteria. Re: penicillin. It has to be refrigerated in liquid form. All gone bad by now except the dry.

 

[kentric]

Why were Rick and Tyresse digging 2 graves? Only Bob from the good guys died. Surely they weren't giving the Termites a proper burial.

I was laughing watching Rick dig. Take a shovel full of dirt and throw it 18 inches away. Tyrese needs to fill him in on how to effectively build a grave.

Also got a chuckle thinking about Tyrese offing Bob on the priest's pillow. Pretty difficult getting those bloodstains out.

Will the priest go with Rick when they leave the church?

 

[snogger]

So it's established that a bite causes death.

It's an infection. A staph infection would also cause death. Or a heart attack.

So a penicillin shot after a bite would save you.

Gee, why didn't Herschel think of that?

Trying to understand the rules for the show. Ive seen people get shot, stabbed, beaten to a pulp without any worry of infection. But somehow a bite means you are dead in a few days.

The biters have a special sort of bacteria. Re: penicillin. It has to be refrigerated in liquid form. All gone bad by now except the dry.

think Rattlesnake bite... Penicillin ain't going to help..

 

[tommyboy]

Why were Rick and Tyresse digging 2 graves? Only Bob from the good guys died. Surely they weren't giving the Termites a proper burial.

I was laughing watching Rick dig. Take a shovel full of dirt and throw it 18 inches away. Tyrese needs to fill him in on how to effectively build a grave.

Also got a chuckle thinking about Tyrese offing Bob on the priest's pillow. Pretty difficult getting those bloodstains out.

Will the priest go with Rick when they leave the church?

priest is a dead man walking

 

[freakinback]

Wait. Zombie bites can kill you? When did this become a thing?

Season one, Andrea's sister. Chomp!

 

[cstu]

Also, us who didn't draft Judith agreed AMC would not kill a baby.

I've brought this up before, but, they've killed off 6yo children, what's the difference? Probably worse for 6 year old because they can somewhat comprehend the terror they are going through.

Judith has to be needed for a greater part of the plot for some reason to be keeping her alive all this time. Otherwise what's the point.

Extra motivation for Rick to survive. Not that he needs it but Carl is practically grown up and could live on his own if Rick dies.

 

[Spike]

I don't think Gareth and friends cut off Bob's leg to save him in any way. He was clearly dinner. The question for me, though, is if Bob was bit does that come into play with the Termites? Maybe they all start dropping like flies and only Gareth is left which forces him to try and weasel his way into the group.

I can see that story line coming, or that Bob suddenly turns at some opportune time to keep a termite from killing one of the "safe" characters who must survive.

If they play up the tainted meat angle, I wonder how that matters since everyone is already infected? If everyone already has it, how would eating someone with it make it worse?

Zombies are walking petri dishes of bacteria. Their bites kill people because they cause a nasty bacterial infection, not because they cause a zombie infection. That's my take anyway.

Possibly. But does a "normal" bacterial infection secondary to a bite kill you in a few hours. We may want to page Dr. Bramel but my instinct is that it takes some time and you'd have traditional symptoms as the infection becomes systematic.

If you say " it isn't normal bacteria, though", that's the trap. They are already infected with the abnormal pathogen, be it virus, bacteria, etc. So for the infection to be the killer, so that THEN the zombie bug can reanimate you, it had to be the normal, everyday bacteria that kill you via infection.

To be honest, I think it's an unresolved problem created by the initial creators who decided to deviate from the traditional zombie-bite-as-transmission-vector angle. Someone came up with the novel idea of everyone being infected as a great plot twist and they got their jollies off on the irony of the living survivors already being zombies that just hadn't got ripe yet...thus being the walking dead themselves. Problem is they didn't really think it through as far as what that would really mean. But at the same time they couldn't then abandon the whole zombie-bite-infects-you scenario because think about how that detail alone drives a zombie movie plot. So they've had to try and mesh the bite angle and the universal infection angle. But they don't logically mesh.

If I already have rabies, how does getting bit by a rabid dog or me eating the flesh of a rabid dog really hurt me in terms of having rabies? So then they have to depend on these contorted explanations to reconcile what is a glaring problem with the internal logic (stressing the "internal" part) of the storyline. You can't use "willing suspension of disbelief" as a panacea. If we suspend our disbelief to accept the basic premise that a zombie virus has been unleashed causing the dead to reanimate, that doesn't mean every other aspect of life as we know it suddenly stops following the rules. The laws of physics, for example, aren't altered. And neither should the laws of biochemistry.

What if the infection-X is dormant and only activates in necrotic tissue. Then suppose active Infection-X can activate dormant Infection-X, thus zombie bites causing active infection.

What if it's a make-believe TV show?

 

[3C's]

I don't think Gareth and friends cut off Bob's leg to save him in any way. He was clearly dinner. The question for me, though, is if Bob was bit does that come into play with the Termites? Maybe they all start dropping like flies and only Gareth is left which forces him to try and weasel his way into the group.

I can see that story line coming, or that Bob suddenly turns at some opportune time to keep a termite from killing one of the "safe" characters who must survive.

If they play up the tainted meat angle, I wonder how that matters since everyone is already infected? If everyone already has it, how would eating someone with it make it worse?

Zombies are walking petri dishes of bacteria. Their bites kill people because they cause a nasty bacterial infection, not because they cause a zombie infection. That's my take anyway.

Possibly. But does a "normal" bacterial infection secondary to a bite kill you in a few hours. We may want to page Dr. Bramel but my instinct is that it takes some time and you'd have traditional symptoms as the infection becomes systematic.

If you say " it isn't normal bacteria, though", that's the trap. They are already infected with the abnormal pathogen, be it virus, bacteria, etc. So for the infection to be the killer, so that THEN the zombie bug can reanimate you, it had to be the normal, everyday bacteria that kill you via infection.

To be honest, I think it's an unresolved problem created by the initial creators who decided to deviate from the traditional zombie-bite-as-transmission-vector angle. Someone came up with the novel idea of everyone being infected as a great plot twist and they got their jollies off on the irony of the living survivors already being zombies that just hadn't got ripe yet...thus being the walking dead themselves. Problem is they didn't really think it through as far as what that would really mean. But at the same time they couldn't then abandon the whole zombie-bite-infects-you scenario because think about how that detail alone drives a zombie movie plot. So they've had to try and mesh the bite angle and the universal infection angle. But they don't logically mesh.

If I already have rabies, how does getting bit by a rabid dog or me eating the flesh of a rabid dog really hurt me in terms of having rabies? So then they have to depend on these contorted explanations to reconcile what is a glaring problem with the internal logic (stressing the "internal" part) of the storyline. You can't use "willing suspension of disbelief" as a panacea. If we suspend our disbelief to accept the basic premise that a zombie virus has been unleashed causing the dead to reanimate, that doesn't mean every other aspect of life as we know it suddenly stops following the rules. The laws of physics, for example, aren't altered. And neither should the laws of biochemistry.

What if the infection-X is dormant and only activates in necrotic tissue. Then suppose active Infection-X can activate dormant Infection-X, thus zombie bites causing active infection.

What if it's a make-believe TV show?

http://mommyedwards.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Mind+blown+_6413a2aef3142eab8dd789403f71008e.gif

 

[snogger]

Bite me

 

[cstu]

To be honest, I think it's an unresolved problem created by the initial creators who decided to deviate from the traditional zombie-bite-as-transmission-vector angle.

It's not a problem - as I discussed before the virus everyone is infected with could change into deadly virus transmitted through saliva after a person turns.

 

[tonydead]

Also, us who didn't draft Judith agreed AMC would not kill a baby.

I've brought this up before, but, they've killed off 6yo children, what's the difference? Probably worse for 6 year old because they can somewhat comprehend the terror they are going through.

Judith has to be needed for a greater part of the plot for some reason to be keeping her alive all this time. Otherwise what's the point.

Extra motivation for Rick to survive. Not that he needs it but Carl is practically grown up and could live on his own if Rick dies.

Spoiler

She dies in the comics during the prison attack so I wouldn't be surprised to see her die at some point.

She is the only one known to be born after the outbreak, so, maybe she is a bigger part of the story line. Is she infected?

To keep a baby alive just for Rick's or the group's motivation or because AMC doesn't want to kill a baby is silly. IMO.