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***OFFICIAL 'The Walking Dead' TV Series Thread*** (1 Viewer)

Not sure why so many are upset at the cliffhanger. I fully expected that type of ending.

One thing bothering me a little is the pure size of the Saviors. Even taking half of 4 or 5 communities like Alexandria and Hilltop goods/production wouldn't come close to sustaining a group the size presented in the show. They'd have to have at least 10 or more such communities to be robbing from. More...with all of those men, they'd have left an outpost INSIDE each community. The whole setup makes no sense

 
renesauz said:
Not sure why so many are upset at the cliffhanger. I fully expected that type of ending.

One thing bothering me a little is the pure size of the Saviors. Even taking half of 4 or 5 communities like Alexandria and Hilltop goods/production wouldn't come close to sustaining a group the size presented in the show. They'd have to have at least 10 or more such communities to be robbing from. More...with all of those men, they'd have left an outpost INSIDE each community. The whole setup makes no sense
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That's makes too much sense.

Leaving behind a few guys...hell, even one guy...would hinder our hero group from being able to stage their ultimate revolt.

It's all just for convenience.

 
Bossman said:
Oh boy. Looks like it's getting really comic bookie with King Ezekiel and his Elephant Tiger.

They couldn't just leave it at Rick vs. Negan for a half season? 

Any of those scenes give away who wasn't smashed by Negan?
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:lol:

Thought you were kidding, there really is a dude with a pet tiger?

 
I was wondering how the trailer would work since they clearly wouldn't show anyone in Negan's lineup because that would spoil who was surviving Lucille so I was impressed with how great it still was. Introducing new characters, showing flashes of Morgan and Carol plus some stuff with Negan, Tara, Jesus and Alexandria. I thought it was really well done and it has me fired up for the upcoming season.

I also think it's interesting that you have two of the most popular shows on TV in Game of Thrones and Walking Dead both entering their seventh seasons and telling stories in dramatically different ways. With GOT they are consciously contracting their story because they are approaching an end game. With Walking Dead they are expanding their universe and adding more pieces to the chess board. I'm not trying to compare the shows since they are so different obviously. I just think it's interesting that these two extremely popular shows, both in their seventh seasons, are telling stories in such decidedly different ways for their upcoming seasons. 

 
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Love how they're just milking the cliff hanger they created just for cliffhangery's sake, because they said it was done for the art, and not to be a stupid cliff hanger.

 
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Love how they're just milking the cliff hanger they created just for cliffhangery's sake, because they said it was done for the art, and not to be a stupid cliff hanger.
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It's a cliffhanger. Tons of shows have done and them will continue to do them in the future. I don't know why this show has taken so much heat for doing one. Makes no sense to me. Game of Thrones did same damn thing and didn't take near as much chit for it and everyone with a brain in their head knew the alleged death on that show wouldn't turn out to be a real death. This one's gonna be real and it's almost certainly gonna suck in a real big way. 

 
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This is the week to do all you can to avoid clicking any link having to do with the show as there are bound to be spoilers.

6 days to find out who Negan :deadhorse:    

 
watched the ''journey so far '' last night...pretty good ....beats binge watching all the seasons ...nice summation of the story line up to this season

 
packersfan said:
It's a cliffhanger. Tons of shows have done and them will continue to do them in the future. I don't know why this show has taken so much heat for doing one. Makes no sense to me. Game of Thrones did same damn thing and didn't take near as much chit for it and everyone with a brain in their head knew the alleged death on that show wouldn't turn out to be a real death. This one's gonna be real and it's almost certainly gonna suck in a real big way. 
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Mainly because that was the third time they did it that season.  First with Glenn dumpster diving and then with Darryl getting shot in the back.  Go to the well on some #### to much and it gets stale. 

 
Bossman said:
Oh boy. Looks like it's getting really comic bookie with King Ezekiel and his Elephant Tiger.

They couldn't just leave it at Rick vs. Negan for a half season? 

Any of those scenes give away who wasn't smashed by Negan?
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Agreed.

I think that if they don't hit a homerun with the Negan thing.....this will delve into comic book storytelling really quickly, alienate those who are looking for a more realistic/serious (I know) zombie story and ratings will drop. 

 
Thunderlips said:
Agreed.

I think that if they don't hit a homerun with the Negan thing.....this will delve into comic book storytelling really quickly, alienate those who are looking for a more realistic/serious (I know) zombie story and ratings will drop. 
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or risk not trying new things and the story becomes repetative  season after season...works both ways and you cant please everyone...im looking forward to anything new they can offer 

 
BustedKnuckles said:
watched the ''journey so far '' last night...pretty good ....beats binge watching all the seasons ...nice summation of the story line up to this season
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Wife has never watched TWD and this recorded on the DVR last night. Maybe she could watch it and be "caught up". :mellow:

 
snogger said:
This is the week to do all you can to avoid clicking any link having to do with the show as there are bound to be spoilers.

6 days to find out who Negan :deadhorse:    
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I really don't care if this gets spoiled.  On further reflection, I'm still firmly of the opinion that this cliffhanger was stupid.

 
IvanKaramazov said:
I really don't care if this gets spoiled.  On further reflection, I'm still firmly of the opinion that this cliffhanger was stupid.
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I believe it was a massive mistake. What is did was put in my mind "I don't really care if all of them die."  Honestly, if that was the final episode and the show was over I wouldn't care a bit.

 
Based on reactions in this thread, this must have been the first time in the history of TV that a series had a cliff hanger at the end of one season leading to a second one and thus due to the complaints should be shelved from ever being used again in the future.. ;)

I agree that with the popularity of this show a cliff hanger like this was not needed.. Then again, Dallas was pretty popular when they ended the season with " who shot JR" and it seemed to work out OK for them.

 
snogger said:
Based on reactions in this thread, this must have been the first time in the history of TV that a series had a cliff hanger at the end of one season leading to a second one and thus due to the complaints should be shelved from ever being used again in the future.. ;)

I agree that with the popularity of this show a cliff hanger like this was not needed.. Then again, Dallas was pretty popular when they ended the season with " who shot JR" and it seemed to work out OK for them.
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Dallas was the #6 show in its third season and the 'Who Shot JR' episode catapulted them up to #1/2 for the next 5 seasons.  This sort of cliffhanger was also a novelty back then.

 
snogger said:
Based on reactions in this thread, this must have been the first time in the history of TV that a series had a cliff hanger at the end of one season leading to a second one and thus due to the complaints should be shelved from ever being used again in the future.. ;)

I agree that with the popularity of this show a cliff hanger like this was not needed.. Then again, Dallas was pretty popular when they ended the season with " who shot JR" and it seemed to work out OK for them.
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Sounds like a dream!

 
snogger said:
This is the week to do all you can to avoid clicking any link having to do with the show as there are bound to be spoilers.

6 days to find out who Negan :deadhorse:    
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AMC has filed cease and desist letters to the spoiler fan groups and threatened them with law suits.  But yeah, it's already leaked.

 
Thunderlips said:
Mainly because that was the third time they did it that season.  First with Glenn dumpster diving and then with Darryl getting shot in the back.  Go to the well on some #### to much and it gets stale. 
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Didn't care for the Glenn one and said so in this thread emphatically. But again shows have had season-ending cliffhangers for years and years and years. For so many people to get THAT butthurt over this one was mind-boggling, especially given how incredible the episode was in my opinion. The systematic breakdown of Rick's pysche was so well done in my opinion and was clearly the fundamental aspect of the episode. I think that was the central theme of the episode from start to finish. However, a lot of people got so hung up on wanting to see who Negan killed they missed what the episode was really about. This next episode will be about who Negan kills and as a result we'll end up seeing who he kills and then we'll see the result of that and how that all plays out. 

 
Hated the Glenn dumpster dive and the Negan cliffhanger, but overall thought the season was very good. Just wish they had ended the mid-season with the first episode of the back half, would have flowed a lot better with the group coming together against the horde plus the "cliff-hanger" of walking out among the zombie's with the kid yapping was pretty weak. I think they did a great job building up thematically to the finale, there were multiple episodes where I was saying "somebody is about to die or something horrible is about to happen, they are way too overconfident now." Even if they beat us over the head with that in the arrow in the eye doctor episode.

Now back to avoiding this thread for most of the rest of the year as the constant ####ting on the show continues. Plus you just know some ###### will come in here and drop the spoiler of who was killed.

 
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I happened to flip by just as they were showing the preview for the episode this sunday... the camera pulls back at the end of it and reveals the mashed up corpse/skull... I think... of the person neegun splatted. the person who died definitely has gooey brains and red blood.

 
3C's said:
snogger said:
Based on reactions in this thread, this must have been the first time in the history of TV that a series had a cliff hanger at the end of one season leading to a second one and thus due to the complaints should be shelved from ever being used again in the future.. ;)

I agree that with the popularity of this show a cliff hanger like this was not needed.. Then again, Dallas was pretty popular when they ended the season with " who shot JR" and it seemed to work out OK for them.
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Sounds like a dream!
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:lmao:

 
packersfan said:
Didn't care for the Glenn one and said so in this thread emphatically. But again shows have had season-ending cliffhangers for years and years and years. For so many people to get THAT butthurt over this one was mind-boggling, especially given how incredible the episode was in my opinion. The systematic breakdown of Rick's pysche was so well done in my opinion and was clearly the fundamental aspect of the episode. I think that was the central theme of the episode from start to finish. However, a lot of people got so hung up on wanting to see who Negan killed they missed what the episode was really about. This next episode will be about who Negan kills and as a result we'll end up seeing who he kills and then we'll see the result of that and how that all plays out. 
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I was more in a :rant: in regards to the bleep who posted in here the leaked finale without using spoilers then I was with the cliff hanger. Ended up watching the entire season finale wondering "will they leave it as a cliff hanger" rather then be surprised by it.

 
My complaint with the cliffhanger is that it simply would've been a much more powerful finale if they had showed the body.  It made that episode worse.  I haven't spent any time wondering who it is that got beat to death since that episode aired.

Basically, it added nothing and made an episode worse.  Closing the season with the shot of Glenn/Maggie/Whoever's bloody, beaten body... that would've been a mike drop, walk off stage move for the show.  We would've spent all summer wondering about how the group would react to losing that person, how they'll react to Negan. Instead they ruined that finale so they could spend all summer running ennie meanie miney mo commercials, which are stupid.

 
snogger said:
I was more in a :rant: in regards to the bleep who posted in here the leaked finale without using spoilers then I was with the cliff hanger. Ended up watching the entire season finale wondering "will they leave it as a cliff hanger" rather then be surprised by it.
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I didn't see that because I was avoiding the thread at the time. Glad I missed all that. I loved the finale. Thought the episode was sensational and wasn't bothered at all that they didn't show who Negan killed. I'm avoiding spoilers now and don't know who died although I have my guess and did see the preview clip which seemed to support my guess. I'm totally pumped about the premier episode and the upcoming season. Looks like it's going to be amazing.  

 
snogger said:
Based on reactions in this thread, this must have been the first time in the history of TV that a series had a cliff hanger at the end of one season leading to a second one and thus due to the complaints should be shelved from ever being used again in the future.. ;)

I agree that with the popularity of this show a cliff hanger like this was not needed.. Then again, Dallas was pretty popular when they ended the season with " who shot JR" and it seemed to work out OK for them.
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The worst part about the cliffhanger was that they advertised that "someone" was going to die in the season finale for weeks, then chose not to reveal who it was. 

If they had skipped the spoiler advertising, I think the beating-to-death would have been much more impactful, and people would have complained a lot less about the identity not being revealed.

 
nysfl2 said:
The worst part about the cliffhanger was that they advertised that "someone" was going to die in the season finale for weeks, then chose not to reveal who it was. 

If they had skipped the spoiler advertising, I think the beating-to-death would have been much more impactful, and people would have complained a lot less about the identity not being revealed.
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Hopefully when Negan starts swinging there's a dumpster behind Glenn that he can crawl under

 
Fan of the show since the beginning and laughed a million times over the incredibly stupid complaints along the way in this thread.............BUT...........the end of the last episode WAS stupid and unnecessary.  It's not even really a "cliffhanger".  It's not like some other show where they are in a situation and you have no idea how they will get out of the situation, or it could go several different ways.  In this case, someone dies, and the only unknown is the who.  Also, there is already a comic about this, and it's not hard to find out who was mashed in the comics.  Even if it's not the same person in the show, still not really a cliffhanger and would look like more of a cheap "whooaa, they didn't follow the comic blah blah blah" moment. 

That last episode had the chance to rival the "barn scene" episode, and they blew it.  Had they shown whichever character getting mashed it would have ended on one hell of a gory, sour note, and this entire few months would have felt more like a "oh my god that was brutal, what are they going to do to get out of this situation", but instead all we got is "who got mashed" with a stupid new "Negan killed this character" article popping up every couple days. 

A simple mashing with character reactions would have been a great lead up to where we are now with a nice "wow, how are they going to get through this" feel.    Of course the show is still wildly popular, but they got too cute for their own good on that one.  It made the episode far worse than it could have been, and also made the lead up to this season far worse than it could  have been.  Double whammy bad on that one. 

 
:shrug:   Didn't bother me they left it open..

Heck, at the time they filmed it maybe a number of characters were still up in the air on renewing their contract so maybe the producers at that time didn't know who they'd bump off.
Or, as we have seen in the thread..

It kept people talking about it, good or bad, during the off time.. You know, the old saying "any publicity is good publicity"  ;)  

 
snogger said:
:shrug:   Didn't bother me they left it open..

Heck, at the time they filmed it maybe a number of characters were still up in the air on renewing their contract so maybe the producers at that time didn't know who they'd bump off.
Or, as we have seen in the thread..

It kept people talking about it, good or bad, during the off time.. You know, the old saying "any publicity is good publicity"  ;)  
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Hey guys, let's make a lesser show for ratings.......................................this is you. :excited:

 
ghostguy123 said:
Hey guys, let's make a lesser show for ratings.......................................this is you. :excited:
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Well if you say so, then it is so.. :lmao:

I enjoy the show and have from day one..

If you stuck through the Glenn eaten/not eaten but this one was too much ...  well there are TONS of other shows to watch so good luck :hifive:

 
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snogger said:
:shrug:   Didn't bother me they left it open..

Heck, at the time they filmed it maybe a number of characters were still up in the air on renewing their contract so maybe the producers at that time didn't know who they'd bump off.
Or, as we have seen in the thread..

It kept people talking about it, good or bad, during the off time.. You know, the old saying "any publicity is good publicity"  ;)  
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not really in here it didn't.

it's like talking about a coin flip. or an eenie meenie minie moe game.

 
Part of the fun in character deaths is the shock.  People love shocking moments.  I don't think it's any surprise that two of the most popular shows going right now (TWD and GoT) spent their first few seasons creating shocking moments by killing off major characters, often in random middle of the season episodes and out of the blue.

Airing two weeks of promos about "someone is going to die!" ruins the shock out of hand.  Following it up with "and now wait another 6 months to find out who it is!" just slaps it in the face.  This is a show that once had the balls to kill of two major characters in some random early/mid-season episode and now when they decide they can give someone up they feel they have to milk it for 6 months.

Meh, it's just procedural at this point.  They may as well just send out an email with the name of who died at this point.  There is no "moment".

 
El Floppo said:
tbh... I was genuinely hoping it was going to be Rick- just for the shock of it. the preview last night gave something away.
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:mellow:

It was  Never going to be Rick.. ever.. This show is about HIS survival.. The only way he dies is when they decide to be done filming the show. Possibly they kill him off  3/4 through the Series Final season, but until you read "Last Season" he will be around. 

 
snogger said:
:mellow:

It was  Never going to be Rick.. ever.. This show is about HIS survival.. The only way he dies is when they decide to be done filming the show. Possibly they kill him off  3/4 through the Series Final season, but until you read "Last Season" he will be around. 
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oh- I get that. but I can hope, can't I?

 
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