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***OFFICIAL 'The Walking Dead' TV Series Thread*** (2 Viewers)

modogg said:
So i am watching an episode of Sons of Anarchy, and it got me thinking. I remember when Kirkman first wrote the comics, he came out and said that he designed Neegan based off of Henry Rollins (not completely analagous, but the basic idea). Watching Henry on Sons of Anarchy, he is an ok actor, i wonder how he would have been as Neegan. Of course Henry 10-15 years ago could have been real good, but any thoughts on if a different actor played Neegan how it would be?
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Nah.  Give me the current guy over Henry Rollins.  

 
NYRAGE said:
I think Rick will return to Oceanside after the war with the guns and some other things that he takes from the Saviors. That will convince Oceanside to be part of their extended community in the post-War society.

Regarding the war against the Saviors. Negan does have a ton of people, but they are spread out in different compounds. My guess is that Rick attack's Negan's place first, then goes after the individual compounds.
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That should bring the girl to guy ratio up to like 6 to 1. NOICE!

 
modogg said:
i'm jaded cause i read the comics before the show. In the comics Neegan looks like an old high school OL. 
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I read the comics as well, so I definitely had a certain image of on-screen Negan that I wanted to see, and JDM just isn't it.  The bad thing is though that I was pretty excited when he was cast, and thought he would be able to pull it off.  But his whole look and portrayal of Negan is just wrong to me.  He's too skinny, he's too good looking, his smile looks too happy-go-lucky and not enough evil.  He leans back and sways his body way too much.  Just doesn't appear to be menacing enough, except for the kneeling in the woods scenes and when he's in the Sanctuary and about to iron someone (or throw them in the fire).  

Comics Negan just exuded evil to me, someone with a sadistic side.  He's big, he's brutal, he curses every 3rd word.  JDM just comes off as too damn nice.  But with all that said, I don't have another actor in mind who would pull it off better.  Maybe some MMA fighter turned actor that would at least be big and hulking, and look meaner than JDM? 

 
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wlwiles said:
I read the comics as well, so I definitely had a certain image of on-screen Negan that I wanted to see, and JDM just isn't it.  The bad thing is though that I was pretty excited when he was cast, and thought he would be able to pull it off.  But his whole look and portrayal of Negan is just wrong to me.  He's too skinny, he's too good looking, his smile looks too happy-go-lucky and not enough evil.  He leans back and sways his body way too much.  Just doesn't appear to be menacing enough, except for the kneeling in the woods scenes and when he's in the Sanctuary and about to iron someone (or throw them in the fire).  

Comics Negan just exuded evil to me, someone with a sadistic side.  He's big, he's brutal, he curses every 3rd word.  JDM just comes off as too damn nice.  But with all that said, I don't have another actor in mind who would pull it off better.  Maybe some MMA fighter turned actor that would at least be big and hulking, and look meaner than JDM? 
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If he wasn't as famous as he is, I think The Rock could have pulled off the part with the right direction. I watched for nearly a season longer than I would have, waiting to see what they would do with the character. I didn't know JDM and thought he might be able to do the job but wound up really disliking him in the role, for all the reasons you gave. Gave up on the show after the start of this new half season. I might tune in for the war but I'll probably wait to hear about it first.

 
I was pumped about them casting JDM as Negan because he is a good actor, he has the chops.  But he's not doing well in this role.  Not as well as I had hoped, anyways.

 
I think JDM does menacing extremely well.  It's just that the writing for his character seems off.  Since running into Rick's group, I think he's killed more of his own men than he has Rick's people.  Carl attacks his compound and kills a bunch of people, makes buddy, buddy with him and returns him to his dad.  Sasha attacks his compound killing people, and he tries to woo her to his side.

 
CanadianNFLJunkie said:
I always assumed one of the best ways to attack Negan and the saviors was to use the walkers as a screen of sorts since it always appeared that Rick and Co were out-numbered so why not use the walkers to Rick's advantage.  Now I don't know.  Just because Negan has the numbers doesn't necessarily mean they all know how to handle the weapons they have.

Looking forward to the beginning of the war but not looking forward to the long wait for October for the next season.
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Maybe not but the group of men that Simon brought to hilltop all looked to be big, tough military types.  Rick better come up with a pretty good plan cause if it comes down to hand-to-hand combat these guys will make short work out of the Alexandria, Hilltop and Garbage Dump gang.

 
snogger said:
Well, "The Walking Dead" are NOT the "Zombies" :mellow:
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Maybe not but the show desperately needs more if them.   My hope is that eventually the group runs up against a new villain that has managed to create/alter the walkers into fighting machines.  Faster, stronger, hungrier and harder to kill.     It would make the show better IMO

 
bigbottom said:
I think JDM does menacing extremely well.  It's just that the writing for his character seems off.  Since running into Rick's group, I think he's killed more of his own men than he has Rick's people.  Carl attacks his compound and kills a bunch of people, makes buddy, buddy with him and returns him to his dad.  Sasha attacks his compound killing people, and he tries to woo her to his side.
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I'm not much of a comic :nerd: but I've read the Walking Dead up until about the midway point of this season and his character on the show is almost to the tee of his character in the Comics..

So while you may not like how he is portraying the character on screen, it lines up with the comic and those that invested in the comics are the first to go ape bleep crazy if they deviate too much.

 
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Copeman said:
Since it's being discussed:

https://moviepilot.com/posts/3606116
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Madsen could have been interesting. I saw a list somewhere a while back that recommended either Warburton or Kevin Durand, mainly just because of their size though since they're ~6'5" ish.  I don't know if either one of them have the acting chops to do it. 

Out of that list, I would most like to see Hamm give it a try.  Now that I think more about it, Tom Hardy might have been a good one too.  JDM is just not it for me.  He's not big enough.  I agree that he does play menacing pretty well, but those moments have been too few and far between, and it's offset too much by his swaying smiling one liner stupid jokes. 

 
Godsbrother said:
Maybe not but the group of men that Simon brought to hilltop all looked to be big, tough military types.  Rick better come up with a pretty good plan cause if it comes down to hand-to-hand combat these guys will make short work out of the Alexandria, Hilltop and Garbage Dump gang.
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Carol can take 'em.

 
wlwiles said:
Madsen could have been interesting. I saw a list somewhere a while back that recommended either Warburton or Kevin Durand, mainly just because of their size though since they're ~6'5" ish.  I don't know if either one of them have the acting chops to do it. 

Out of that list, I would most like to see Hamm give it a try.  Now that I think more about it, Tom Hardy might have been a good one too.  JDM is just not it for me.  He's not big enough.  I agree that he does play menacing pretty well, but those moments have been too few and far between, and it's offset too much by his swaying smiling one liner stupid jokes. 
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But Tom Hardy is only 5' 9".  Jeffery Dean Morgan is 6' 2".

 
Hopefully they kill this Negan guy soon.  Every time he opens his mouth and starts swaying around I want to shot myself.  The Governor was a much better bad guy.  

 
I gotta disagree there, no way was the gov better than negan.  Negan is cocky/confident, he knows he is the man and he acts like it, I think he plays the part exactly like the writers want him too (not a comic book reader here so I don't care that he doesn't look like the rock)

I'm excited to see this guy in actual action again (not just throwing a wimpy guy in a furnace) , I think Rick and crew are going to have their work cut out for them next season.

 
Jayrok said:
I always thought Michael Madsen would be a good actor for Negan.  
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Definitely when he was a bit younger.  Yep.

Bruce Campbell, hahaha.  I woulda loved that. 

I still think The Rock would pretty much be perfect, but since his is so popular nobody would have taken it seriously or been able to enjoy it.  I sure would  have, but seem like people just can't sit back and enjoy something these days.

 
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Been a while since someone has died, based on my bad memory.    Tara showed them oceanside, she still useful?  I wouldn't mind if she got it this episode.

 
Underachievers said:
Darryl on the Talking Dead tonight?  Kiss of death? 
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i kind of hope so. what has his character been/done since the story arc with Maggie's sister? if they don't know what to do, kill him. Sasha is guaranteed dead. pretty sure we getting 30 minutes of the close-up of her with the headphones on

 
modogg said:
i kind of hope so. what has his character been/done since the story arc with Maggie's sister? if they don't know what to do, kill him. Sasha is guaranteed dead. pretty sure we getting 30 minutes of the close-up of her with the headphones on
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My thoughts also.

Had to laugh at Junkyard Chick just now...."I lay with him after".    :lmao:

 
Anyone thinking that the junkyard people are the ones supplying Negan with the info?  Just getting this weird setup vibe tonight.

 
modogg said:
i kind of hope so. what has his character been/done since the story arc with Maggie's sister? if they don't know what to do, kill him. Sasha is guaranteed dead. pretty sure we are getting 30 minutes of the close-up of her with the headphones on
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i was joking when i wrote the above. i didn't know this was why they needed to extend this episode   :kicksrock:

 
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It's a good thing that tiger knows who to attack. Damn smart tiger.

Even Ray Charles could see Sasha's death coming. At least she got to take out a savior as a zombie.

 
TLEF316 said:
I wonder what kind of filler episodes we'll get next season. Surely it won't be 16 hours of all-out war.
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Hoping it gets back to the comics, which is a long drawn out bloody war. They can revive the show. 

 
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TLEF316 said:
I wonder what kind of filler episodes we'll get next season. Surely it won't be 16 hours of all-out war.
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They will have to get Oceanside to add to their numbers, go after the junkyard people and what about Dwight?  Seems like Dwight lived up to his side of the bargain, blocking roads coming in to Alexandria, so I think he is still in play.

 
Awesome finale. I thought there was a chance Carl would die because of the college rumors. Tiger moment was awesome. Junkyard ##### needs to die. The way they talk is beyond stupid. 

 
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