Not to mention Rick is/was a cop. Cops probably don't want to have much to do with convicts on general principles.What!?! You can't understand why he doesn't want his family and friends around a bunch of inmates in a federal prison?Anyway, I love bad-### Rick. Dude is becoming Shane as he's doing anything necessary to keep his crew alive. The part where he said "I suggest you run" was absolutely hardcore.That was a great episode last night. A bit too much Lori, hanging around Hershell and bad acting Short Round but overall real good.
I am a bit confused about the attitude initially with the prisoners, why was Rick so pissed in the beginning and not wanting to be around them?
No question in my mind that's intentional. Rick's growing darker and darker and definitely morphing into the type of person Shane was. Again, though, I think much of what Shane did and wanted to do was spot on. He just presented his approach rather badly. But many of his actions made sense. In fact, when Rick sacrificed the inmate last night the first thing I thought of was when Shane sacrificed Otis. Not exact situations obviously but both were prepared to allow an innocent (essentially in the inmate's case since he really hadn't done anything to the group) to die.Rick is slowly beginning to mirror Shane in his actions and thoughts. Kind of ironic.
Here you go. You have these prisoners locked up for a almost a year and only the druggie white dude and the black tank have full facial hair. All of those guys should have looked like a combination of Grizzly Adams/Mean Joe Green/ZZ Top. Last thing I'm doing locked up with 4-5 other guys is trimming my stache or shaving my beard. That was a truly awesome episode though.Don't worry, by tomorrow morning 10 people will give you 30 nit pick bull#### reasons why you are wrong.This is a great f'n show.
Shane was a moron who would have killed them all through his rash decisions.Thanks for giving me the opportunity to say that. I never tire of it.No question in my mind that's intentional. Rick's growing darker and darker and definitely morphing into the type of person Shane was. Again, though, I think much of what Shane did and wanted to do was spot on. He just presented his approach rather badly. But many of his actions made sense. In fact, when Rick sacrificed the inmate last night the first thing I thought of was when Shane sacrificed Otis. Not exact situations obviously but both were prepared to allow an innocent (essentially in the inmate's case since he really hadn't done anything to the group) to die.Rick is slowly beginning to mirror Shane in his actions and thoughts. Kind of ironic.
I think the episode showed that Lori was right on. Rick is still the same, good person. He is still willing to give people the benefit of the doubt, as he showed last night by agreeing to a truce with the prisoners at first. BUT, the big difference is that now he's not second guessing himself when it comes time to make an important decision for the good of the group. Cutting off Herschel's leg, giving prisoner guy a sword to the head, etc. Rick will never be Shane IMO. I don't see him ever losing his humanity like Shane did. But he's not ##### Rick either anymore.No question in my mind that's intentional. Rick's growing darker and darker and definitely morphing into the type of person Shane was. Again, though, I think much of what Shane did and wanted to do was spot on. He just presented his approach rather badly. But many of his actions made sense. In fact, when Rick sacrificed the inmate last night the first thing I thought of was when Shane sacrificed Otis. Not exact situations obviously but both were prepared to allow an innocent (essentially in the inmate's case since he really hadn't done anything to the group) to die.Rick is slowly beginning to mirror Shane in his actions and thoughts. Kind of ironic.
I think the inner turmoil Rick is enduring is he realizes he's losing his humanity but a part of him doesn't want to recapture it. Lori represented his connection to that before. But he's pushing her away and now it's slowly evaporating and he knows it. I think he's afraid that he's losing his soul and humanity but he also knows that a lot of that is essential given the world they're in. He can't afford to really feel anymore. He needs to be a bit ruthless. That's really been evident since "Nebraska." He just dove all in after killing Shane.I think the episode showed that Lori was right on. Rick is still the same, good person. He is still willing to give people the benefit of the doubt, as he showed last night by agreeing to a truce with the prisoners at first. BUT, the big difference is that now he's not second guessing himself when it comes time to make an important decision for the good of the group. Cutting off Herschel's leg, giving prisoner guy a sword to the head, etc. Rick will never be Shane IMO. I don't see him ever losing his humanity like Shane did. But he's not ##### Rick either anymore.No question in my mind that's intentional. Rick's growing darker and darker and definitely morphing into the type of person Shane was. Again, though, I think much of what Shane did and wanted to do was spot on. He just presented his approach rather badly. But many of his actions made sense. In fact, when Rick sacrificed the inmate last night the first thing I thought of was when Shane sacrificed Otis. Not exact situations obviously but both were prepared to allow an innocent (essentially in the inmate's case since he really hadn't done anything to the group) to die.Rick is slowly beginning to mirror Shane in his actions and thoughts. Kind of ironic.
Yeah, I agree with you. Rick is not Shane, Shane would have just killed those inmates outright and taken their food. Shane would have put Hershel down like Tiny instead of risking saving him by just cutting the leg off. Rick was willing to try and work with the prisoners at first but he was cautious at the same time. Once Rico Suave showed his true colors (killing Tiny mercilously, trying to prison riot take out Rick thru backhanded means like taking a swing close to Rick's head or shoving a Walker at him) Rick knew he could never trust the guy and took him out for the safety of the whole group. Same thing with locking the other guy who ran away out, you'd never be able to turn your back on that guy or let him roam free on his side of the prison.I think the episode showed that Lori was right on. Rick is still the same, good person. He is still willing to give people the benefit of the doubt, as he showed last night by agreeing to a truce with the prisoners at first. BUT, the big difference is that now he's not second guessing himself when it comes time to make an important decision for the good of the group. Cutting off Herschel's leg, giving prisoner guy a sword to the head, etc. Rick will never be Shane IMO. I don't see him ever losing his humanity like Shane did. But he's not ##### Rick either anymore.No question in my mind that's intentional. Rick's growing darker and darker and definitely morphing into the type of person Shane was. Again, though, I think much of what Shane did and wanted to do was spot on. He just presented his approach rather badly. But many of his actions made sense. In fact, when Rick sacrificed the inmate last night the first thing I thought of was when Shane sacrificed Otis. Not exact situations obviously but both were prepared to allow an innocent (essentially in the inmate's case since he really hadn't done anything to the group) to die.Rick is slowly beginning to mirror Shane in his actions and thoughts. Kind of ironic.
My wife watched with me last night for the first time, and she jumped out of her seat when his arm flashed up. When it was over she said the show is too creepy for her and I can continue watching it alone.The CPR thing was ballsy though. My 13 year old was literally yelling 'don't do it' as she was doing mouth to mouth.
Looks like they have weeks or months of food left. Thank got they got rid of Razor Ramone quickly. Did not like that dude.

What spoilers? I didn't see any.EDIT: Nevermind. I think I know what you are talking about now.How long until Daryl and Carol finally give in after their Episode 1 rendezvous around the prison perimeter?Carl was just trying to show off for the blonde daughter. Heaven knows she's gonna have daddy issues real soon. Also someone told Carl not to speak to his mother that way. Learned it from Rick.As for Rick... :starthidingmoney:ETA: Walking Dead home page giving away spoilers on the Characters page if you hit it up. As someone who did not read the comics, disappointing.
Lead inmate tried to kill Rick in the melee by "accidentally" swinging at his head and throwing a zombie on top of him. Hardly an innocent.No question in my mind that's intentional. Rick's growing darker and darker and definitely morphing into the type of person Shane was. Again, though, I think much of what Shane did and wanted to do was spot on. He just presented his approach rather badly. But many of his actions made sense. In fact, when Rick sacrificed the inmate last night the first thing I thought of was when Shane sacrificed Otis. Not exact situations obviously but both were prepared to allow an innocent (essentially in the inmate's case since he really hadn't done anything to the group) to die.Rick is slowly beginning to mirror Shane in his actions and thoughts. Kind of ironic.
I was referring to the guy he chased outside and left him to be killed by the walkers."Rico Suave" love that nicknameLead inmate tried to kill Rick in the melee by "accidentally" swinging at his head and throwing a zombie on top of him. Hardly an innocent.No question in my mind that's intentional. Rick's growing darker and darker and definitely morphing into the type of person Shane was. Again, though, I think much of what Shane did and wanted to do was spot on. He just presented his approach rather badly. But many of his actions made sense. In fact, when Rick sacrificed the inmate last night the first thing I thought of was when Shane sacrificed Otis. Not exact situations obviously but both were prepared to allow an innocent (essentially in the inmate's case since he really hadn't done anything to the group) to die.Rick is slowly beginning to mirror Shane in his actions and thoughts. Kind of ironic.
absolutely had it coming. Rick did the right thing there.I love Rick taking out the lead criminal.
I couldn't stand him chasing down the one prisoner. They make it so important to stay with the group but you chase this guy down corridor after corridor? I understood the reasoning...they have to show us that Rick has completely evolved into the guy Shane kept asking him to be...someone willing to do whatever it takes to protect the group...but come on.
I liked Carl for a brief moment for the first time ever.
I kept expecting Herschel to tell Rick, "Rick...your whore wife just kissed me...can you put her on a leash?"
Can't stand the Carol thing...if I'm Asian dude...I tell her, "Look, the guys will be back in a few minutes...no way we try this nonsense RIGHT THIS SECOND!". But it was only way for us to see whore-mouth do something redeemable. The writers are trying to fix all of what the previous guys did to Lori's character last year. We're not supposed to hate her and her ******* kids but most of us do...so they're trying to fix that. We'll be feeling sorry for her at some point.
I have the same feeling...sweet-stache will betray any of us. The other guy will end up becoming a viable member of the team after saving one of the girls from stache trying to get him some or something.
What would you guys have honestly done with the prisoners? Me..."You've got a choice...leave now or perish. Take an armload of food and run. Sorry but it's all our's now." But, like I said above...it's more interesting to story telling to keep them around.
"Sorry convict, we have women and children. There is no way we can risk having you here and around them. I hope you understand, and if not - oh well."Don't worry, by tomorrow morning 10 people will give you 30 nit pick bull#### reasons why you are wrong.This is a great f'n show.
Who the hell is Tyreese?Here's my spoilery view:
I think the black guy becomes the Tyreese of the show minus his daughter. And the scrawny white guy is making himself out to be so innocent that of course he's going to be the one similar to that rapist creep they found in the prison in the comics.
For those who watched the sneak peak to next week...
How does the reintroduction of Merle affect Daryl?
You know what else was popular? Racism. Way to go, guy.'packersfan said:"Greatness" is often subjective.What cannot be questioned, though, is that "The Walking Dead" is an extremely popular show. I'm cool siding with the majority on this one.![]()
QEDWalking Dead = racism.You know what else was popular? Racism. Way to go, guy.'packersfan said:"Greatness" is often subjective.What cannot be questioned, though, is that "The Walking Dead" is an extremely popular show. I'm cool siding with the majority on this one.![]()
I think I missed that part of the sneak peek. You sure it was on the end of the show, or are you talking about a different, more in depth sneak peek somewhere else.For those who watched the sneak peak to next week...
How does the reintroduction of Merle affect Daryl?
QEDWalking Dead = racism.You know what else was popular? Racism. Way to go, guy.'packersfan said:"Greatness" is often subjective.
What cannot be questioned, though, is that "The Walking Dead" is an extremely popular show. I'm cool siding with the majority on this one.![]()
There are reaches and then there are reachesI think I missed that part of the sneak peek. You sure it was on the end of the show, or are you talking about a different, more in depth sneak peek somewhere else. It was on "The Talking Dead."For those who watched the sneak peak to next week...
How does the reintroduction of Merle affect Daryl?
QEDWalking Dead = racism.You know what else was popular? Racism. Way to go, guy.'packersfan said:"Greatness" is often subjective.What cannot be questioned, though, is that "The Walking Dead" is an extremely popular show. I'm cool siding with the majority on this one.![]()

You know what else is popular? Sex.QEDWalking Dead = racism.You know what else was popular? Racism. Way to go, guy.'packersfan said:"Greatness" is often subjective.What cannot be questioned, though, is that "The Walking Dead" is an extremely popular show. I'm cool siding with the majority on this one.![]()
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Not around my house.You know what else is popular? Sex.QEDWalking Dead = racism.You know what else was popular? Racism. Way to go, guy.'packersfan said:"Greatness" is often subjective.What cannot be questioned, though, is that "The Walking Dead" is an extremely popular show. I'm cool siding with the majority on this one.![]()
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It's some new-fangled thing the kids are doing now-a-days.Not around my house.You know what else is popular? Sex.QEDWalking Dead = racism.You know what else was popular? Racism. Way to go, guy.'packersfan said:"Greatness" is often subjective.What cannot be questioned, though, is that "The Walking Dead" is an extremely popular show. I'm cool siding with the majority on this one.![]()
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I don't think it would've had the lead out shot if it was going to be glossed over. With you on this, it will play some sort of role.'pantherclub said:I wonder if whoever is watching in the woods saw carol go through the cut in the fence and if thats going to come back into play?
Meh. Didn't see whoever it was watching her get out of the fence. Only showed her leaning over and cutting open zombie girl.I don't think it would've had the lead out shot if it was going to be glossed over. With you on this, it will play some sort of role.'pantherclub said:I wonder if whoever is watching in the woods saw carol go through the cut in the fence and if thats going to come back into play?
That explains why you're so angry all the time around here.Not around my house.You know what else is popular? Sex.QEDWalking Dead = racism.You know what else was popular? Racism. Way to go, guy.'packersfan said:"Greatness" is often subjective.What cannot be questioned, though, is that "The Walking Dead" is an extremely popular show. I'm cool siding with the majority on this one.![]()
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We can tellNot around my house.You know what else is popular? Sex.QEDWalking Dead = racism.You know what else was popular? Racism. Way to go, guy.'packersfan said:"Greatness" is often subjective.What cannot be questioned, though, is that "The Walking Dead" is an extremely popular show. I'm cool siding with the majority on this one.![]()
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The other 2 will probably be important to the group later
One as Tyree and the other as a potential murderer
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You're both welcome.We can tell
Yes, that's why they call them Walkers and not zombies.I've read a lot of zombie books and so far it's been about 50-50 on author's taking the tack that zombie's are a new, unknown phenomenon in their particular book versus author's who have the characters actively say 'holy crap, zombies!' and reference zombie movies, etc. I actually think I like it better in the books that treat it like a new, unknown phenomenon. The ones that reference it tend to be more campy than hardcore.Also, grossest part of the show, maybe ever, was Daryl putting the arrow he just pulled out of a zombie's head in his mouth while he cocked his crossbow. Even if it wasn't the same arrow, they've all been in zombie brain. Ick.Also, also... When they were explaining the walkers to the prisoners... I guess they live in a world that's exactly like ours except there has NEVER BEEN A ZOMBIE MOVIE EVER!!!!
Yes actually. I read an interview where the creator said it's basically an alternate universe where everything is exactly the same as our world except there's never been any zombie movies, stories, etc, ever... So you're actually spot-on.Also, grossest part of the show, maybe ever, was Daryl putting the arrow he just pulled out of a zombie's head in his mouth while he cocked his crossbow. Even if it wasn't the same arrow, they've all been in zombie brain. Ick.Also, also... When they were explaining the walkers to the prisoners... I guess they live in a world that's exactly like ours except there has NEVER BEEN A ZOMBIE MOVIE EVER!!!!
This is one of the best parts of the show.Yes, that's why they call them Walkers and not zombies.I've read a lot of zombie books and so far it's been about 50-50 on author's taking the tack that zombie's are a new, unknown phenomenon in their particular book versus author's who have the characters actively say 'holy crap, zombies!' and reference zombie movies, etc. I actually think I like it better in the books that treat it like a new, unknown phenomenon. The ones that reference it tend to be more campy than hardcore.Also, grossest part of the show, maybe ever, was Daryl putting the arrow he just pulled out of a zombie's head in his mouth while he cocked his crossbow. Even if it wasn't the same arrow, they've all been in zombie brain. Ick.
Also, also... When they were explaining the walkers to the prisoners... I guess they live in a world that's exactly like ours except there has NEVER BEEN A ZOMBIE MOVIE EVER!!!!
It's not a complaint, it's just that zombies have been so prevalent in fiction since before I was born. The word being used figuratively for so much ,ore than animated corpses. I was thinking the same thing while watching Cabin in the Woods at first. Like none of those kids had ever seen a horror movie, until I realized that horror inventions were integral to the story. It's just odd.This is one of the best parts of the show.Yes, that's why they call them Walkers and not zombies.I've read a lot of zombie books and so far it's been about 50-50 on author's taking the tack that zombie's are a new, unknown phenomenon in their particular book versus author's who have the characters actively say 'holy crap, zombies!' and reference zombie movies, etc. I actually think I like it better in the books that treat it like a new, unknown phenomenon. The ones that reference it tend to be more campy than hardcore.Also, grossest part of the show, maybe ever, was Daryl putting the arrow he just pulled out of a zombie's head in his mouth while he cocked his crossbow. Even if it wasn't the same arrow, they've all been in zombie brain. Ick.
Also, also... When they were explaining the walkers to the prisoners... I guess they live in a world that's exactly like ours except there has NEVER BEEN A ZOMBIE MOVIE EVER!!!!
'Jackstraw said:He was excellent in the doobie brothers. Maggie was looking kind of Jedi warrior in the all black.'netnalp said:His accent would grate on my nerves.'Super King said:'mr roboto said:wat?'Super King said:Yea. Nut I don't trust the squirrelly white dudeThank God ...that prisoner was very annoying and i would have hated having to listen to his bad attitude every week....kill all the annoying peopleDidn't think he was going to it, then BAM! Dome shotdo not f with Rick, imo.![]()
BUT... I don't trust the crying white dude with the sweet mustache.
Looks like they have weeks or months of food left. Thank got they got rid of Razor Ramone quickly. Did not like that dude.
perfect ...i thought he looked familiarFirstly,pretty much as close to a divorce as he can do..No sure what I missed, why is he so upset at her?What was with that final scene with Lori? Is he going to keep this up?
After he killed Shane in a confrontation which was forced on him by Shane who was barely rational by that point, Lori lit into him in front of the whole group about it. Seemed a lot less concerned about Rick surviving Shane's assassination attempt than that they guy she'd been banging was dead.Would have been pretty humiliating as well as made him pretty wild.Who the hell knows what these guys are in for - you take them out the first chance you get. Will a couple of them probably have been decent guys? Sure, but it's not worth the risk of the others. Once you tell them that there's no where safe to go and they find out the only women are in the cell block next door what do you think is going to happen?'Rick James said:I would've been cool with Rick killing the head inmate instantly. Like after the first 2 conversations he had with the guy. So glad he's out of the way.