Parrothead
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Why don't they ever show them pooping???!!
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***OFFICIAL 'The Walking Dead' TV Series Thread*** (4 Viewers)
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trogg78
Footballguy
cstu
Footballguy
If you need me to break it down for you...Disco Stu said:"It can't be a great episode when it's nothing but red shirts dying."cstu said:You guys don't get it, I don't want them to die I just didn't want this stupid virus story line.It's almost like cstu would like to see every other season be a new set of characters.. Maybe Rick and his son live, but no one else.... No need to get wrapped up into the lives of the other characters because they will all be dead soon any ways.. .There are only 7 main characters left. How many do you want killed each week?The virus was a false jeopardy situation and it was obvious the main characters weren't going to die from it (except I thought they'd use it as a way for Herschel to make a heroic sacrifice for Glenn). I'll keep watching but this is an awfully cheesy show.snogger said:cstu said:If you didn't enjoy last nights episode then I think this show has passed you by and it's time to move on..
Ridiculous declaration that you're hopefully backing away from now.
They brought in a bunch of faceless characters and created the virus as a way of turning them into cool zombie kills to keep viewers happy. It was a cheap way to create some suspense while having nothing really happening at the prison.
If you guys enjoyed these episodes then they did their job, but it felt like filler to me. I'm looking forward to the rest of the season I just haven't found this season very good this year.
TheIronSheik
SUPER ELITE UPPER TIER
Copeman
Footballguy
I think Carl is becoming one of the more interesting characters. I think the kid who plays him does a very good job, especially now that he's getting older. Let's face it, most kids that are his age when the show began suck at acting, as he did his first year or so. But he's getting better, and in turn is making his character more believeable and interesting. I'll be anxious to see where the writers take his character.
packersfan
Footballguy
I agree. I like how they've further developed the relationship between Rick and Carl this season. Rick watching Carl blow away the walkers was a terrific scene. There's your father-son bonding time in the zombie apocalypse.
What's really going to be interesting is when Carl remembers he wants to plow Beth only to find out Beth is pining for his dad. CONFLICT!
Tackling Dummies
Footballguy
It's a transition from the Woodbury residents and their time at the prison. I'm unsure what you want to happen w/ the (incoming Woodbury) characters in reference to the core group. TWD has done a great job moving the story to the point of the group leaving their current location.If you need me to break it down for you...Disco Stu said:"It can't be a great episode when it's nothing but red shirts dying."cstu said:You guys don't get it, I don't want them to die I just didn't want this stupid virus story line.It's almost like cstu would like to see every other season be a new set of characters.. Maybe Rick and his son live, but no one else.... No need to get wrapped up into the lives of the other characters because they will all be dead soon any ways.. .There are only 7 main characters left. How many do you want killed each week?The virus was a false jeopardy situation and it was obvious the main characters weren't going to die from it (except I thought they'd use it as a way for Herschel to make a heroic sacrifice for Glenn). I'll keep watching but this is an awfully cheesy show.snogger said:cstu said:
Ridiculous declaration that you're hopefully backing away from now.
They brought in a bunch of faceless characters and created the virus as a way of turning them into cool zombie kills to keep viewers happy. It was a cheap way to create some suspense while having nothing really happening at the prison.
If you guys enjoyed these episodes then they did their job, but it felt like filler to me. I'm looking forward to the rest of the season I just haven't found this season very good this year.
Jules Winnfield
Footballguy
Or some nice Bibb Lettuce. So under appreciated!(HULK) said:I agree. A whole hour and they only open 1 peapod! Come on, at least give us a carrot or a potato!TheIronSheik said:I used to love this show but it seems like the last couple episodes have been more about zombies and less about gardening. I think I may be done with this show.
I will agree that I am glad the virus story has run its course, but I also agree that I have enjoyed the last couple episodes a lot.
Something tells me we will lose at least a couple key folks this season and I am sure add a couple more. Pretty evident that the prison isn't going to be home much longer. I am looking forward to that as I think the on the road shows are some of the best, like getting to the CDC or meeting back up with Morgan or the trips into Atlanta.
Something tells me we will lose at least a couple key folks this season and I am sure add a couple more. Pretty evident that the prison isn't going to be home much longer. I am looking forward to that as I think the on the road shows are some of the best, like getting to the CDC or meeting back up with Morgan or the trips into Atlanta.
Flying Spaghetti Monster
Footballguy
I know it sounds crazy but wouldn't you try to find out how lethal a few thousand volts through the fence would be to the zombies. That would kill all the ones on the fence at one time.
Zow
Footballguy
Agreed. I've found the episodes boring but likely necessary for character/story development.It's a transition from the Woodbury residents and their time at the prison. I'm unsure what you want to happen w/ the (incoming Woodbury) characters in reference to the core group. TWD has done a great job moving the story to the point of the group leaving their current location.If you need me to break it down for you...Disco Stu said:"It can't be a great episode when it's nothing but red shirts dying."cstu said:You guys don't get it, I don't want them to die I just didn't want this stupid virus story line.It's almost like cstu would like to see every other season be a new set of characters.. Maybe Rick and his son live, but no one else.... No need to get wrapped up into the lives of the other characters because they will all be dead soon any ways.. .There are only 7 main characters left. How many do you want killed each week?The virus was a false jeopardy situation and it was obvious the main characters weren't going to die from it (except I thought they'd use it as a way for Herschel to make a heroic sacrifice for Glenn). I'll keep watching but this is an awfully cheesy show.snogger said:cstu said:
Ridiculous declaration that you're hopefully backing away from now.
They brought in a bunch of faceless characters and created the virus as a way of turning them into cool zombie kills to keep viewers happy. It was a cheap way to create some suspense while having nothing really happening at the prison.
If you guys enjoyed these episodes then they did their job, but it felt like filler to me. I'm looking forward to the rest of the season I just haven't found this season very good this year.
dparker713
Footballguy
The show is about a zombie apocalypse. Rick and really all the characters are incidental.flapgreen said:
cstu
Footballguy
Notorious T.R.E.
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All of them, please.There are only 7 main characters left. How many do you want killed each week?The virus was a false jeopardy situation and it was obvious the main characters weren't going to die from it (except I thought they'd use it as a way for Herschel to make a heroic sacrifice for Glenn). I'll keep watching but this is an awfully cheesy show.snogger said:cstu said:
Notorious T.R.E.
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Officer Pete Malloy
Footballguy
phatdawg
Footballguy
Not really. The characters are essential. They have to be at least moderately compelling or it wouldn't work. We have to feel something for the characters, whether we like them or can't stand them.
badmojo1006
Footballguy
Then the show would have been Shane roaming America by himself as he would have killed all the losers in the group
cstu
Footballguy
Some of this is based on the comic book, which I thought handled it better:
I would have had the Governor threaten Rick in the season 3 finale that he's going to return and destroy the prison, that way they are concerned about an attack from the beginning of season 4. The Woodburians help fortify the prison during the break between season 3 and 4 so that when season 4 starts the prison actually looks capable of being defended. I would have sped up the zombie horde coming to the prison and knocking down the fences to show that not even that is enough to protect them. Then I'd have the group argue over whether to say at the prison and fight the horde/Governor or leave. Rick would win the argument to stay so that when the Governor attacks and kills nearly everyone he has their blood on his hands.
phatdawg
Footballguy
packersfan
Footballguy
I think the show could survive without Rick. Not sure how good it would be.
I'm guessing there will come a time when Andrew Lincoln decides its time to move on. In my opinion, that should be the time when the execs give serious consideration to ending the show.
I'm guessing there will come a time when Andrew Lincoln decides its time to move on. In my opinion, that should be the time when the execs give serious consideration to ending the show.
Flying Spaghetti Monster
Footballguy
The best ending of the show would be Carl having to put down zombie Rick and then turning the gun on himself.
Notorious T.R.E.
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I cheer for the zombies. I might not if there were better actors/characters. Hopefully the new version has some better peeps to cheer for.
Parrothead
Footballguy
then have about 15 minutes of dialogue-free scenes exploring the (now humanless) world... fade to black- end of series
Copeman
Footballguy
A good way to present character development (not so much character interaction) would be the use of flashbacks. We could then see more about certain individuals, see what they were like before the apocalypse. I know it has been discussed here before, some for it, some against it. I think small flashbacks, fast enough that it wouldn't cut (too much) into the current story line would suffice. I think the viewer would become closer to the character that way.
Flying Spaghetti Monster
Footballguy
Walking a thin line because many will complain that they want to see more zombie killings and less boring character development.
Jules Winnfield
Footballguy
Homer J Simpson
I don't push
Maggie is way too hot to be this underutilized.
-fish-
Footballguy
-fish-
Footballguy
Disco Stu
Confirmed FBGal
Homer J Simpson
I don't push
Buckfast 1
Footballguy
I agree that some limited use of flashbacks would be a useful device to develop the characters (which I think is one of The Walking Dead's greatest weaknesses as a show). Kirkman has said that he doesn't want to use flashbacks because The Walking Dead is the story of how people act and who people become during zombie apocalypse, not prior to it, but I personally think that the story of who people were before and during the initial outbreak of the zombie apocalypse would help further Kirkman's overall story-telling goals. Much like the opening scene in one of the final episodes of Breaking Bad where it flashes back to Walt talking to Skyler on the phone after his first cook, the juxtaposition of the flashback with the current state of affairs would show how much characters have changed during the course of their experiences and provide some much-needed character development.
I mean they brought an entire new group of Woodbury residents into the prison, yet have really failed to develop even a single character from that group such that the viewer has any investment in whether any of them live or die. Thank goodness that Glenn got the flu virus as well, otherwise I'm pretty sure that most viewers wouldn't care that much if the entire group of sick people perished. Glenn is the only reason any viewer cares about the group getting antibiotics. Can anyone even name a single person from the Woodbury group that they took in besides Tyreese? It seems like they could have spent the time to actually develop a character or two from that lot before giving so many of them meaningless deaths.
Zow
Footballguy
Disco Stu
Confirmed FBGal
Sasha.
Others they added from Woodbury or elsewhere... Caleb (Dr S), Lizzie and her sister (and dead dad), Bob, Karen, David, Zach (Beth's temporary love interest), Patrick.
I think I agree with Kirkman on the flashbacks. For Rick, they made sense because he is the main guy. I think we know enough about who the other main people are. I loved the way Lost used flashbacks to show us the past for the main characters, but those flashbacks were very instrumental to showing us who those people are now. Kirkman makes a great point that the past of these characters doesn't define them now as much as how they dealt with the zombie apocalypse, which we have seen.
As far as new characters go, Tyrese, his sister and the medic (holy crap, that's a lot of black people still alive) are probably all we get before the move out of the prison. Don't worry, I don't read the comics. It is painfully obvious that with the Gov back and the fences falling that there will be an exodus soon. During that exodus, I am pretty sure we will meet some new folks and lose a couple people we don't expect.
Man, I really don't like the Gov at all. Michonne has grown on me, but I still can't stand his character. I really thought it would have been so much better if Laurie trapped and got him killed instead of his miraculous escape and capture of her. Then they could have thinned the Woodbury herd in a bunch of different ways and still had Laurie save some to get to the prison.
Officer Pete Malloy
Footballguy
packersfan
Footballguy
I'm also anti-flashbacks for the most part primarily because this is a show about who these characters are now and who they are becoming. Who they once were isn't all that important to me (other than Rick, who is the show's central character). As Shane said to Rick that world is gone. It's all about the characters now and moving forward.
Plus, if each character or several were given flashbacks it would feel too much like "Lost" to me.
Plus, if each character or several were given flashbacks it would feel too much like "Lost" to me.
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Copeman
Footballguy
I don't even understand what he's trying to say. Maybe he means just an antagonist?
Loan Sharks
Not a Wolf
Yeah I came here to post the same thing. I am bored to death of the Governor I was hoping he would come back much later there was no suspense at all this soon gotta make it a surprise like Sophia. There has to be some human conflict in the show, but not too much. The reason I watch TWD is because it is about people surviving in a ZOMBIE apocolypse. There are literally tons of shows about conflicted groups of humans to choose from, like that one that the power is out or really any action show. If I want gunfights I can watch those.Homer J Simpson said:Gotta agree on these points. The guy's awful.Ash said:I wasto see the Governor in the closing scenes, although it was obvious he would enter the story again at some point. He's a badly written soap opera villain played by a terrible actor. Single worst piece of casting in the entire show. Let's hope it ends quickly.
I tend to think in a situation like this there would be more encounters like running into the guys in the bar, the people on the bridge and gangs not Duke Dastardly stalking them.
Officer Pete Malloy
Footballguy
Agree with all of the above. He was never interesting and totally unnecessary.Yeah I came here to post the same thing. I am bored to death of the GovernorHomer J Simpson said:Gotta agree on these points. The guy's awful.Ash said:I was
Nathan R. Jessep
Footballguy
I was digging her in the body armor this week 
packersfan
Footballguy
I enjoyed the Governor last season but I was skeptical of not killing him off. Here's hoping they kept him alive because they had something really cool planned for him this season.
Nathan R. Jessep
Footballguy
I liked the new episode. It had good zombie killin' and decent suspense, but I just didn't feel like the story went anywhere this week. Except hopefully to end the god-awful never-ending virus outbreak storyline. I liked that plot line, but they have dragged it out too long, IMO.
Also, I guess last week's spoiler ad showing them burning the pile of bodies was just a ploy to motivate.
Also, I guess last week's spoiler ad showing them burning the pile of bodies was just a ploy to motivate.
HellToupee
Footballguy
Can't stand the character & actor
-fish-
Footballguy
assume it's just a plot device to drive them out of the prison and get them moving again.
Buckfast 1
Footballguy
I don't really consider Tyreese or Sasha as "Woodbury people" since they encountered Rick's group before Woodbury and were only there for a short period of time, but that was an impressive listing of Woodbury characters that I'd venture 99% of Walking Dead viewers could not name. Then again, I am really bad at remembering names. But I think my point about those Woodbury characters being under-developed at this point in the season still stands.
Zow
Footballguy
I thought he was interesting, but his motivations and craziness far too cartoonish.Agree with all of the above. He was never interesting and totally unnecessary.Yeah I came here to post the same thing. I am bored to death of the GovernorHomer J Simpson said:Gotta agree on these points. The guy's awful.Ash said:I was
