***OFFICIAL 'The Walking Dead' TV Series Thread*** (8 Viewers)

[(HULK)]

I hope Carl cleans up that mess of papers this week.

Cleanliness is next to not getting eaten by zombies-ness.

Say what you will about the Governor, at least he kept Woodbury clean and plague free.

Hey, the trains were always on time!

Woodbury entertainment = Zombie MMA

Prison entertainment = sharing peapods

Woodbury >>>>> Prison

 

[danielmclark]

I hope Carl cleans up that mess of papers this week.

Cleanliness is next to not getting eaten by zombies-ness.

Maybe it's a trap. If a bunch of walkers storm the hallway, the'll slip and fall on all those loose papers on the wooden floor. Then they pile up and can't get down the hallway. Sounds... reasonable?

Maybe not.

 

[-fish-]

he's trying to make an origami mom, since he shot his last one.

 

[packersfan]

I enjoyed the Governor last season but I was skeptical of not killing him off. Here's hoping they kept him alive because they had something really cool planned for him this season.

Agreed. I mentioned my thought a couple times that I think Laurie killing him in that building would have been a great ending for him. I know they have plans, but for those of us who watched Heroes, it reminds me of the Season 1 ending in which Sylar didn't die. I know they liked the character and sometimes that drives a decision, like in Heroes, that derails the show a bit because the "revenge" takes too long and ends up being such a huge story. As you posted later, it kind of takes away from the whole last season. Heck, he could have just gone back to Woodbury and started over.

Heroes began its descent the second Skylar crawled into the sewer (or wherever he went) instead of dying in the Season 1 finale. I liked the character too and Quinto was great in the role but that was an enormous blunder in my opinion.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Why aren't there any gay people/zombies on this show?

 

[TheIronSheik]

Why aren't there any gay people/zombies on this show?

Zombie God hates gays.

 

[cstu]

I hope Carl cleans up that mess of papers this week.

Cleanliness is next to not getting eaten by zombies-ness.

Maybe it's a trap. If a bunch of walkers storm the hallway, the'll slip and fall on all those loose papers on the wooden floor. Then they pile up and can't get down the hallway. Sounds... reasonable?

Maybe not.

This is about the level of planning I expect from the characters on the show.

 

[(HULK)]

I hope Carl cleans up that mess of papers this week.

Cleanliness is next to not getting eaten by zombies-ness.

Maybe it's a trap. If a bunch of walkers storm the hallway, the'll slip and fall on all those loose papers on the wooden floor. Then they pile up and can't get down the hallway. Sounds... reasonable?

Maybe not.

This is about the level of planning I expect from the characters on the show.

No need to shut your cell doors at night, I set up an oragami trap in the hallway. We're all set!

 

[The Big Guy]

I hope Carl cleans up that mess of papers this week.

Cleanliness is next to not getting eaten by zombies-ness.

Say what you will about the Governor, at least he kept Woodbury clean and plague free.

Hey, the trains were always on time!

But did the governors kid have an afro?

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

I was to see the Governor in the closing scenes, although it was obvious he would enter the story again at some point. He's a badly written soap opera villain played by a terrible actor. Single worst piece of casting in the entire show. Let's hope it ends quickly.

Gotta agree on these points. The guy's awful.

Yeah I came here to post the same thing. I am bored to death of the Governor

Agree with all of the above. He was never interesting and totally unnecessary.

Yes, they did a really bad job of showing why Michonne hates the Governor so much.

Not like they could go with the storyline from the comics. (Not saying they couldn't have tried, but it would have been significantly watered down for TV.)

In the comics

Spoiler

Michonne was brutally raped by the Governor, in scenes that even in the comics were hard to continue reading. In the TV show, they had the Governor molest Maggie, but it's hard to figure out exactly what got Michonne so upset with him. It was extremely clear in the comics just why she hated him so much.

Spoiler

Agree with pretty much all of this. The Governor was a lot more brutal in the comics and I thought that brutality was the thing that made him interesting. The TV version just comes off as a typically stock TV villain. They've winked at the comic book brutality, but they haven't really developed it. Part writing and part the actor, I guess, but whatever the reason I think it's taken away the characteristic that made him interesting.

Spoiler

Could have something to do with the show being on AMC and not HBO. Some scenese they might like to do wouldn't fly.

AMC could show Heisenberg brutally choking a guy out in the garage but somehow they decided to go all softy of the Governor in TWD? I think it was a directorial decision and not one that AMC made.

 

[flapgreen]

What does Beth do with all of her spare time?

 

[Maik Jeaunz]

Why aren't there any gay people/zombies on this show?

it seems that most of the zombies are bi, they don't care if they eat guys or girls.

 

[tommyboy]

Why aren't there any gay people/zombies on this show?

would give a new definition to "chowing box"

 

[tommyboy]

I was to see the Governor in the closing scenes, although it was obvious he would enter the story again at some point. He's a badly written soap opera villain played by a terrible actor. Single worst piece of casting in the entire show. Let's hope it ends quickly.

Gotta agree on these points. The guy's awful.

Yeah I came here to post the same thing. I am bored to death of the Governor

Agree with all of the above. He was never interesting and totally unnecessary.

Yes, they did a really bad job of showing why Michonne hates the Governor so much.

Not like they could go with the storyline from the comics. (Not saying they couldn't have tried, but it would have been significantly watered down for TV.)

In the comics

Spoiler

Michonne was brutally raped by the Governor, in scenes that even in the comics were hard to continue reading. In the TV show, they had the Governor molest Maggie, but it's hard to figure out exactly what got Michonne so upset with him. It was extremely clear in the comics just why she hated him so much.

Spoiler

Agree with pretty much all of this. The Governor was a lot more brutal in the comics and I thought that brutality was the thing that made him interesting. The TV version just comes off as a typically stock TV villain. They've winked at the comic book brutality, but they haven't really developed it. Part writing and part the actor, I guess, but whatever the reason I think it's taken away the characteristic that made him interesting.

Spoiler

Could have something to do with the show being on AMC and not HBO. Some scenese they might like to do wouldn't fly.

Spoiler

AMC could show Heisenberg brutally choking a guy out in the garage but somehow they decided to go all softy of the Governor in TWD? I think it was a directorial decision and not one that AMC made.

correct me if i'm wrong but generally speaking doesn't the creative come from the show itself, and not from the network? The network just buys the rights to air the show, but the creative control lies with the show. Allegedly, the tinkering of Comedy Central on creative content of "Chappelle Show" is what caused him to walk away.

so, maybe i'm wrong here but that's how I view these things

 

[shuke]

The Governor's return would seem to be an appropriate time to bring back this classic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jR4lLJu_-wE

La Bippity Bippity Bop

I forgot how hilarious that end was.

 

[Ash]

I enjoyed the Governor last season but I was skeptical of not killing him off. Here's hoping they kept him alive because they had something really cool planned for him this season.

Agreed. I mentioned my thought a couple times that I think Laurie killing him in that building would have been a great ending for him. I know they have plans, but for those of us who watched Heroes, it reminds me of the Season 1 ending in which Sylar didn't die. I know they liked the character and sometimes that drives a decision, like in Heroes, that derails the show a bit because the "revenge" takes too long and ends up being such a huge story. As you posted later, it kind of takes away from the whole last season. Heck, he could have just gone back to Woodbury and started over.

I think in general the "Arch Villain Miraculously Escapes" is about the laziest and most cliched plot device there is. The only thing worse is the "Oh, that wasn't real, it was all in his mind" mess. I've refused to read another Dennis Lehane book after Shutter Island because of that one.

 

[badmojo1006]

Why aren't there any gay people/zombies on this show?

You know that Milton was gay

 

[Homer J Simpson]

The Governor's return would seem to be an appropriate time to bring back this classic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jR4lLJu_-wE

La Bippity Bippity Bop

I forgot how hilarious that end was.

The best of all the BLRs. So perfect.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

OK. So if you build a fence around the prison why not dig a moat around it - can zombies drown?

Digging a little deep into the thread here, but I've wondered this all along. You dig a five foot wide trench all the way around the fence, on the zombie side, using distractions to get the whole thing dug eventually. Carol even said they'd had a quiet few months before the season started. Make it 6-7 feet deep, the zombies fall in and get stuck, and you burn them up every once in a while. It's not perfect, and there'd be a dead body/detritus build-up after a while , but it's better than letting hundreds upon hundreds of zombies gang up on one area of your weak ### fence every single day.

They'd never reach the fence this way. You make up some long ### spears and stand on the strip of grass outside the fence but inside of the trench every once in a while, stabbing zombie heads at your leisure as they're stuck in the trench. Move the bodies out once in a while or burn the whole trench once in a while.

Edit: And if you want to argue that they'd never be able to finish it on the outside of the fences, then fine. Do it between the outer and inner fences, leaving wide walking paths on either side for the survivors to use the aforementioned long spears to kill trapped zombies at their leisure. Open up a section of the outer fencing, letting the zombies into the trench every few days as they build up, safely trapping and killing them all in the trench between the fences whenever you need to, with no risk to the fences and no risk to the living survivors doing the spearing. It would be so easy--like spearing zombies in a trench. Wait.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Again, in last night's episode, there's a zombie with moss growing on it and most of it's torso gone from decay. Yet its teeth were in perfect condition. None missing and working perfectly.

I'm starting to think the zombie apocalypse will start with a new type of mouthwash that guarantees to keep teeth white and healthy for eternity. But the side effects will say: "WARNING!: May cause zombie."

Ever seen a stereotypical skull? All the teeth are there. Your gums aren't the only thing keeping your teeth where they should be, right?

 

[ConnSKINS26]

I just remembered that Carol is the lady in The Mist movie (Stephen King) that asks for help to find her family, gets none, leaves the store by herself and then is seen in the Army truck safe by the last standing guy. I doubt it would be paralleled here, but thinking about that would make me laugh if Rick is the lone survivor of his crew that makes it to a safe spot and the first person he sees as he goes in is Carol.

Dale and Andrea are also in that movie. Which makes sense, it was directed by Darabont.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Best show on tv currently

lol

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Can anyone even name a single person from the Woodbury group that they took in besides Tyreese? It seems like they could have spent the time to actually develop a character or two from that lot before giving so many of them meaningless deaths.

Sasha.Others they added from Woodbury or elsewhere... Caleb (Dr S), Lizzie and her sister (and dead dad), Bob, Karen, David, Zach (Beth's temporary love interest), Patrick.

Come on. You just made at least half of those up.

 

[jamny]

What the hell is Carl doing down that hallway anyway?

 

[snogger]

What the hell is Carl doing down that hallway anyway?

with Beth..

 

[ConnSKINS26]

What the hell is Carl doing down that hallway anyway?

Patrolling.

 

[TheIronSheik]

Again, in last night's episode, there's a zombie with moss growing on it and most of it's torso gone from decay. Yet its teeth were in perfect condition. None missing and working perfectly.

I'm starting to think the zombie apocalypse will start with a new type of mouthwash that guarantees to keep teeth white and healthy for eternity. But the side effects will say: "WARNING!: May cause zombie."

Ever seen a stereotypical skull? All the teeth are there. Your gums aren't the only thing keeping your teeth where they should be, right?

Sorry, racist. I don't discriminate.

 

[cstu]

What the hell is Carl doing down that hallway anyway?

with Beth..

"Ooh, put on the hat Carl!"

 

[cstu]

Best show on tv currently

lol

He means on his specific TV while he's watching the show.

 

[TheIronSheik]

Best show on tv currently

lol

He means on his specific TV while he's watching the show.

I still prefer Vanderpump Rules slightly more than TWD. But it's close.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

What the hell is Carl doing down that hallway anyway?

with Beth..

"Ooh, put on the hat Carl!"

"No no no, baby. YOU put on the hat."

 

[PatriotJohn]

The Walking Dead
This week our guests will be The Governor himself, David Morrissey and Ike Barinholtz (The Mindy Project). Post questions for them here and host Chris Hardwick may ask them live on Talking Dead, Sunday at 10|9c on AMC.

 

[Jules Winnfield]

What the hell is Carl doing down that hallway anyway?

with Beth..

"Ooh, put on the hat Carl!"

All he needs is a robe and hopefully he has a wizards hat

 

[(HULK)]

Best show on tv currently

lol

He means on his specific TV while he's watching the show.

I still prefer Vanderpump Rules slightly more than TWD. But it's close.

We only have 2 TVs in the house, and only 1 you can watch with decent volume once the kids get to bed. My wife put on a combo Real Housewives of Beverly Hills and Vanderpump Rules episode the other night. It made me feel like MOP when someone eats tuna from a can in a movie theater.

 

[TheIronSheik]

Best show on tv currently

lol

He means on his specific TV while he's watching the show.

I still prefer Vanderpump Rules slightly more than TWD. But it's close.

We only have 2 TVs in the house, and only 1 you can watch with decent volume once the kids get to bed. My wife put on a combo Real Housewives of Beverly Hills and Vanderpump Rules episode the other night. It made me feel like MOP when someone eats tuna from a can in a movie theater.

I watch a lot of crap TV. I'm a sucker for it. I love seeing other people in stressful situations. And I don't care if it's real or not. That said, I watch a lot of these goofy Bravo shows because my GF loves them. She has the same crappy taste I do, apparently. And while most of them I don't really care too much about, I do have to admit, I love VR. The people on the show are so stupid and it makes me feel good about my life.

 

[Disco Stu]

OK. So if you build a fence around the prison why not dig a moat around it - can zombies drown?

Digging a little deep into the thread here, but I've wondered this all along. You dig a five foot wide trench all the way around the fence, on the zombie side, using distractions to get the whole thing dug eventually. Carol even said they'd had a quiet few months before the season started. Make it 6-7 feet deep, the zombies fall in and get stuck, and you burn them up every once in a while.It's not perfect, and there'd be a dead body/detritus build-up after a while , but it's better than letting hundreds upon hundreds of zombies gang up on one area of your weak ### fence every single day.

They'd never reach the fence this way. You make up some long ### spears and stand on the strip of grass outside the fence but inside of the trench every once in a while, stabbing zombie heads at your leisure as they're stuck in the trench. Move the bodies out once in a while or burn the whole trench once in a while.

Edit: And if you want to argue that they'd never be able to finish it on the outside of the fences, then fine. Do it between the outer and inner fences, leaving wide walking paths on either side for the survivors to use the aforementioned long spears to kill trapped zombies at their leisure. Open up a section of the outer fencing, letting the zombies into the trench every few days as they build up, safely trapping and killing them all in the trench between the fences whenever you need to, with no risk to the fences and no risk to the living survivors doing the spearing. It would be so easy--like spearing zombies in a trench. Wait.

That would take forever. I think people are forgetting how much fence line there is. Partial view here. A five foot wide, six to seven foot deep trench would take more resources than they have available. Especially if some share Tyreese's digging ability.

You could argue they should find a backhoe/excavator and drive it to the prison, but how much attention would that loud, slow moving vehicle draw? Without it, they're not getting a trench. Shovels aren't going to hack it in that Georgia clay. Not for anything bigger than a grave at least.

Clearing the trench is also more difficult than you make it sound. Burning them would still leave the majority of the volume in place. You're not going to get the temperatures required to turn bodies into ashes. There's also the concern of making your water source inaccessible or contaminated.

As for the "in between fences" thought... You want a trench with a wide walking path on both sides? What do you think the distance is between the two fences? I'm guessing it's about ten feet. So... a two foot wide trench? Much wider and you're eliminating your walking paths and undermining the foundation of your fences, making them easier to push over.

Seems a heck of a lot easier to just park a few cars in front of the weakened part of the fence... diverting them to a stronger portion while you attempt to repair it.

 

[roadkill1292]

Best show on tv currently

lol

He means on his specific TV while he's watching the show.

I still prefer Vanderpump Rules slightly more than TWD. But it's close.

We only have 2 TVs in the house, and only 1 you can watch with decent volume once the kids get to bed. My wife put on a combo Real Housewives of Beverly Hills and Vanderpump Rules episode the other night. It made me feel like MOP when someone eats tuna from a can in a movie theater.

I watch a lot of crap TV. I'm a sucker for it. I love seeing other people in stressful situations. And I don't care if it's real or not. That said, I watch a lot of these goofy Bravo shows because my GF loves them. She has the same crappy taste I do, apparently. And while most of them I don't really care too much about, I do have to admit, I love VR. The people on the show are so stupid and it makes me feel good about my life.

I'm glad you feel comfortable enough with us here to confess to this practice but you've got to stop it. Watching those shows just encourages those people.

 

[TheIronSheik]

Best show on tv currently

lol

He means on his specific TV while he's watching the show.

I still prefer Vanderpump Rules slightly more than TWD. But it's close.

We only have 2 TVs in the house, and only 1 you can watch with decent volume once the kids get to bed. My wife put on a combo Real Housewives of Beverly Hills and Vanderpump Rules episode the other night. It made me feel like MOP when someone eats tuna from a can in a movie theater.

I watch a lot of crap TV. I'm a sucker for it. I love seeing other people in stressful situations. And I don't care if it's real or not. That said, I watch a lot of these goofy Bravo shows because my GF loves them. She has the same crappy taste I do, apparently. And while most of them I don't really care too much about, I do have to admit, I love VR. The people on the show are so stupid and it makes me feel good about my life.

I'm glad you feel comfortable enough with us here to confess to this practice but you've got to stop it. Watching those shows just encourages those people.

I can't help it. I have a problem. It's a disease.

 

[cstu]

Seems a heck of a lot easier to just park a few cars in front of the weakened part of the fence... diverting them to a stronger portion while you attempt to repair it.

What were they doing in the months since the end of season 3? How hard would it have been to find an arc welder, some steel pipe and cement to make this?

 

[TheIronSheik]

Seems a heck of a lot easier to just park a few cars in front of the weakened part of the fence... diverting them to a stronger portion while you attempt to repair it.

What were they doing in the months since the end of season 3? How how would it have been to find an arc welder, some steel pipe and cement to make this?

Peas just don't grow themselves, buddy.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Let's just accept the fact that the writers seem to have zero problems with making their characters look really stupid.

 

[badmojo1006]

Seems a heck of a lot easier to just park a few cars in front of the weakened part of the fence... diverting them to a stronger portion while you attempt to repair it.

What were they doing in the months since the end of season 3? How how would it have been to find an arc welder, some steel pipe and cement to make this?

Growing peas

 

[cstu]

Seems a heck of a lot easier to just park a few cars in front of the weakened part of the fence... diverting them to a stronger portion while you attempt to repair it.

What were they doing in the months since the end of season 3? How how would it have been to find an arc welder, some steel pipe and cement to make this?

Peas just don't grow themselves, buddy.

Those did look like some tasty peas.

 

[Zow]

Couple thoughts:

1. People are complaining the Governor isn't twisted enough? He keeps zombie heads, rapes captives, creates zombie MMA, and kills for no apparent reason. I thought the dude was plenty over the top.

2. I take it none of you have ever been to a prison. I've been to several and the fence lines are enormous. No freaking way they could ever build a trench around the fence line in a few months. And it would probably not be very effective at all, as Stu pointed out. The car idea does seem viable, though.

3. Michonne's motivations were obvious. The Governor essentially stole her best friend (Andrea) and she picked up quickly he was a bad dude.

 

[Deepster]

Here's what I always thought. If they built those wooden spiked "X" traps all around the prison, wouldn't the walkers get all built up against them? You go out, spike them in the head and leave them all built up.

If you think back to season one, to get out of that city, Rick and the others covered themselves in walker guts and the smell masked them. Wouldn't a perimeter of rotting walkers mask the smell of a handful of humans tucked in the cells of a prison? The newly approaching walkers should theoretically wander right past the prison and on their merry way, right?

 

[Zow]

Here's what I always thought. If they built those wooden spiked "X" traps all around the prison, wouldn't the walkers get all built up against them? You go out, spike them in the head and leave them all built up.

If you think back to season one, to get out of that city, Rick and the others covered themselves in walker guts and the smell masked them. Wouldn't a perimeter of rotting walkers mask the smell of a handful of humans tucked in the cells of a prison? The newly approaching walkers should theoretically wander right past the prison and on their merry way, right?

That's not a bad point. I think they are underutilizing the walker gut benefit.

But if you think about it, the lasting smell could be simply unbearable for them.

 

[kentric]

Maggie is way too hot to be this underutilized.

criminal

needs to be way more outside/hot day/sudden thunderstorm

Laundry day.

Or, washing a car.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjb3nh9BxOE

 

[Disco Stu]

Seems a heck of a lot easier to just park a few cars in front of the weakened part of the fence... diverting them to a stronger portion while you attempt to repair it.

What were they doing in the months since the end of season 3? How hard would it have been to find an arc welder, some steel pipe and cement to make this?

Honestly that wouldn't even be necessary if this was a real prison fence. They're generally buried at least a few feet (to prevent tunneling) and very strong. You couldn't drive a truck through it much less push it down by hand.

But what fun would that be?

 

[Frostillicus]

Show needs more dinosaurs.

 

[-fish-]

Show needs more dinosaurs.

zombie dinosaurs or regular?