***OFFICIAL 'The Walking Dead' TV Series Thread*** (6 Viewers)

[snogger]

Dude... Wtf

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[Disco Stu]

Did they ever mention who was strapping people to trees and hanging signs on them?

So was that cabin in the woods...the Guvna's old cabin?

I swear some of you people are barely watching the show.

The cabin owner and self labeled murderer are one in the same. Shot himself in the head on the porch.

Or made to look that way...dude kept heads just like Guvna.

Rick makes his plea about changing and Guvna whispers in this echoed voice, "LIAR!"...and chops Hershel with the sword.

One of the signs on the dead at that cabin was "LIAR".

Too many coincidences for my liking but believe what you want...and it's perfectly plausible and more plausible than some of the insane nonsense that gets thrown out there in this thread to explain some of the inconsistent writing and stupid scenarios.

Why even write something so similar to the Governor's story. It probably isn't his cabin, but it's just too many similarities and probably just another example of poor writing. We didn't need those heads in there...that was just TOO much like the Guvna's insanity.

[iNSERT HEADSMACKING SMILIE FOR YOUR SMUG @ZZ HERE]

Settle down chief.

 

[kentric]

1. Mark it down, that kid who had a zombie friend named nick is gonna show up with a zombie baby judith in a carriage at a later date.

2. There is no doubt that that baby is zombie chow. That baby was as much dead weight as the baby in Willow. And right now some of you are going "There was a baby in Willow?" That's right the baby in willow was a cheap plot device to move the characters towards a goal. Now that the whole Shane's and ghost Lori's illegitimate baby is now a dead end plot point and the writers are sick of trying to find clever ways to make the other characters seem like they give a crap about a baby it is baby the other white meat time.

3. Get over the terrible shoot out. Govner convinced the rubes that they were going to go there and scare them out of the prison and when he went all Queen of Hearts when the prison gang started shooting they were a little flustered.

Plus what did you want a %90 percent casualty rate at the mid break where the only survivors Glen and Tyreese sneak off into the woods with the cowardly lesbo?

4. Geez it's like you people don't even watch the show. Of course that was the loon in the sport coat that stabbed herself in the yard, hey here is a clue, if you see a zombie with a bear trap on its leg it the one Carl didn't kill in the woods.

5. Gun toting kids one shotting army lesbos may be my new favorite thing on television. Not that I don't like lesbians or anything but when that went down I was like "HOLY #### DID THAT JUST HAPPEN?" answer yes,yes it did.

6. Hey nut bags alcoholic army medic is NOT coming up with a cure. Two CDC doctors with equipment collaboration and computers are stumped but a drunk with a shoe box has it figured it out, right.

7. Did you guys see Herchel whip the pistol on the guvner, I was like Hershchel is finally bad ### too bad he is gonna die this episode.

8. I don't know why Maggie and Beth are so mad, it's not like they can't keep their dads living head in a jar and talk to him whenever they want like on futurama.

7. Did you guys see Herchel whip the pistol on the guvner, I was like Hershchel is finally bad ### too bad he is gonna die this episode.

I noticed that too. I'm not sure I could move that fast and I'm at least 20 years younger. Hershel was a regular Quickdraw McGraw.

 

[(HULK)]

So are we taking bets on whether Judith is dead?

I think she is (despite the strap issue and the fact that zombies seem to tend to just kneel over and messily eat but I'm just chalking that up to lack of continuity).

I say still alive.. When the kids saved Tyreese, he had been shot, so I believe it was his blood all over the seat as he grabbed her and ran with the kids.

There's no way he was bleeding that much. He'd be dead.

Screen shot of the car seat...http://i.imgur.com/HZbNLh2.jpg

That's a lot of blood. Can't tell for sure if it's unbuckled but leaning no.

Maybe Judith hit puberty early?

 

[Disco Stu]

why does anyone care what happened to Judith? You invested in her character development?

Yeah, she's not a character... she's a plot device. Her death should further develop the characters of Carl and Rick. That is, unless they wuss out and she shows up with Michonne or Tyreese.

With the condition of the car seat, I now think this could go either way. That much blood doesn't make sense if she's alive, but the chest clip being undone doesn't make sense if she's dead. I guess this is our cliff hanger.

 

[(HULK)]

The cross chest snap on the car seat is clearly unbuckled. The bottom part, its too tough to tell.

I'm near certain Lori has Judith with her in the woods.

 

[Nathan R. Jessep]

Tyresse running with Judith?

http://i.imgur.com/0cT8KmW.gif

it's one of the pot shields that saved his life, IMO

 

[Disco Stu]

The cross chest snap on the car seat is clearly unbuckled. The bottom part, its too tough to tell.

I'm near certain Lori has Judith with her in the woods.

Agreed. I thought maybe they weren't using the chest clip thing, because it's not that necessary when just carrying the seat around. But watching again it is definitely clipped when she is shown with the kids.

The only logical explanation I can think of is the kids covered Judith in zombie guts and blood to camouflage her while they went off to get weapons. But I don't remember seeing blood on their hands (other than figuratively) when they shot the lesbian.

 

[(HULK)]

I'm very disappointed that after all of the farming leading up to the last episode, we are then subjected to the Gov's new group rolling a tank over the field and then them shooting bullets wily niley into vegatables while failing to hit Tyrese. Its as if the writers were tired of the farming angle and just decided to kill off the plants.

 

[Nathan R. Jessep]

I'm very disappointed that after all of the farming leading up to the last episode, we are then subjected to the Gov's new group rolling a tank over the field and then them shooting bullets wily niley into vegatables while failing to hit Tyrese. Its as if the writers were tired of the farming angle and just decided to kill off the plants.

Tyrese could have been carrying away some lettuce to-go

 

[Disco Stu]

Tyresse running with Judith?

http://i.imgur.com/0cT8KmW.gif

He might be holding a pistol with two hands. He seems to raise it almost to head level just before the explosion.

 

[cstu]

So are we taking bets on whether Judith is dead?

I think she is (despite the strap issue and the fact that zombies seem to tend to just kneel over and messily eat but I'm just chalking that up to lack of continuity).

I say still alive.. When the kids saved Tyreese, he had been shot, so I believe it was his blood all over the seat as he grabbed her and ran with the kids.

There's no way he was bleeding that much. He'd be dead.

Screen shot of the car seat...http://i.imgur.com/HZbNLh2.jpg

That's a lot of blood. Can't tell for sure if it's unbuckled but leaning no.

Very sneaky of them to make it appear that it could still be buckled but the reason I believe she's still alive is that the zombie would have had to have ripped her apart piece by piece to eat her if she was buckled. There would have be Judith parts strewn all around the car seat and it's unlikely the car seat would have been sitting up.

Edit: I checked my copy of the show in 720p and using my forensic Photoshop skills it's clear that both the cross-strap and bottom buckle are unstrapped.

She's alive.

 

[cstu]

I didn't get the impression Brian's group was supposed to be well trained in terms of combat. Looked like a rag tag group who just went along with his plan. Not surprised they weren't able to land a lot of shots. I would expect the prison group to be more well trained even if they were at a numbers disadvantage.

As far as the battle itself, the main character was wounded, his child may have been eaten, another main character was beheaded, the main villain of the past season-plus was killed and a little girl he had grown attached to was attacked and killed. I don't think there was a shortage of bloodshed in this episode.

And yet they didn't automatically take Rick up on his offer to let them live there. Regardless of having a tank they weren't prepared for battle, especially against an enemy supposedly as bad as Brian had claimed.

It was also pretty stupid that none of them demanded to talk to the hostages before agreeing to this plan. Lots of logic holes but that's nothing new to this show.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Tyresse running with Judith?

http://i.imgur.com/0cT8KmW.gif

it's one of the pot shields that saved his life, IMO

Lol

 

[Corporation]

-Chick suddenly walking up with her dead daughter out of nowhere. OHAI

And somehow she hadn't yet turned.

At that point she wasn't dead yet. Usually there is infection and fever then death, and then a varying time to turn.

 

[Psychopav]

So are we taking bets on whether Judith is dead?

I think she is (despite the strap issue and the fact that zombies seem to tend to just kneel over and messily eat but I'm just chalking that up to lack of continuity).

I say still alive.. When the kids saved Tyreese, he had been shot, so I believe it was his blood all over the seat as he grabbed her and ran with the kids.

There's no way he was bleeding that much. He'd be dead.

Screen shot of the car seat...http://i.imgur.com/HZbNLh2.jpg

That's a lot of blood. Can't tell for sure if it's unbuckled but leaning no.

Very sneaky of them to make it appear that it could still be buckled but the reason I believe she's still alive is that the zombie would have had to have ripped her apart piece by piece to eat her if she was buckled. There would have be Judith parts strewn all around the car seat and it's unlikely the car seat would have been sitting up.

Edit: I checked my copy of the show in 720p and the buckle on the right is clearly unbuckled.

She's alive.

LOOK AT ME, I HAVE A 1990s HDTV!

 

[Worm]

Maybe the zombies unbuckled her to have a proper meal.

 

[CBusAlex]

I think the people analyzing the buckle on the car seat are probably paying more attention to detail than the producers are.

 

[cstu]

So are we taking bets on whether Judith is dead?

I think she is (despite the strap issue and the fact that zombies seem to tend to just kneel over and messily eat but I'm just chalking that up to lack of continuity).

I say still alive.. When the kids saved Tyreese, he had been shot, so I believe it was his blood all over the seat as he grabbed her and ran with the kids.

There's no way he was bleeding that much. He'd be dead.

Screen shot of the car seat...http://i.imgur.com/HZbNLh2.jpg

That's a lot of blood. Can't tell for sure if it's unbuckled but leaning no.

Very sneaky of them to make it appear that it could still be buckled but the reason I believe she's still alive is that the zombie would have had to have ripped her apart piece by piece to eat her if she was buckled. There would have be Judith parts strewn all around the car seat and it's unlikely the car seat would have been sitting up.

Edit: I checked my copy of the show in 720p and the buckle on the right is clearly unbuckled.

She's alive.

LOOK AT ME, I HAVE A 1990s HDTV!

Umm, there's no 1080p episode of the show to download...

My point was that it was higher resolution than that photo.

 

[Disco Stu]

I think the people analyzing the buckle on the car seat are probably paying more attention to detail than the producers are.

That may very well be true. They obviously had to take the baby out of the car seat to shoot the scene. Who knows if they considered rebuckling...Best case scenario - we do see Judith again but as a zombie. Can a zombie baby walk? Or does that have to be learned before reanimating?

 

[Zow]

I think the people analyzing the buckle on the car seat are probably paying more attention to detail than the producers are.

That may very well be true. They obviously had to take the baby out of the car seat to shoot the scene. Who knows if they considered rebuckling...Best case scenario - we do see Judith again but as a zombie. Can a zombie baby walk? Or does that have to be learned before reanimating?

Zombie baby would rule.

 

[kentric]

I know I'm likely going against the grain on this, but on Talking Dead I didn't think Lauren Cohen (Maggie) looked all that great. Too much makeup poorly applied IMO. She looks so much better with the natural, girl next-door/farmer's daughter look.

 

[Limp Ditka]

Crawling baby zombie >>>>> Toddling baby zombie

 

[Disco Stu]

I think the people analyzing the buckle on the car seat are probably paying more attention to detail than the producers are.

That may very well be true. They obviously had to take the baby out of the car seat to shoot the scene. Who knows if they considered rebuckling...Best case scenario - we do see Judith again but as a zombie. Can a zombie baby walk? Or does that have to be learned before reanimating?

Zombie baby would rule.

Especially if someone brought her on the bus. Have her tear through those worthless freeloaders like Chucky until Glenn finally puts her down.

 

[badmojo1006]

I think the people analyzing the buckle on the car seat are probably paying more attention to detail than the producers are.

That may very well be true. They obviously had to take the baby out of the car seat to shoot the scene. Who knows if they considered rebuckling...Best case scenario - we do see Judith again but as a zombie. Can a zombie baby walk? Or does that have to be learned before reanimating?

Zombie baby would rule.

The zombie baby in Dawn of the Dead was set to rule the world. Until Sarah Polley shot it in the head

 

[TheIronSheik]

I know I'm likely going against the grain on this, but on Talking Dead I didn't think Lauren Cohen (Maggie) looked all that great. Too much makeup poorly applied IMO. She looks so much better with the natural, girl next-door/farmer's daughter look.

I agree 100%. I also thought she sounded as dumb as a bag of hammers.

And lastly, and it pains me to say this because it goes against everything I've ever said, but I prefer her crappy southern accent to her real British accent. She's the only girl I've ever heard who makes a British accent sound bad.

 

[bigbottom]

Was hoping the Governor and Rick would somehow simultaneously kill each other. Just bad actors...

The whole gunfight was pretty absurd. I enjoy the show as an unintentional comedy with zombies at this point. Mud zombie was funny.

Good job shooting out those prison windows with your tank, guys!

This is kinda where I'm at with the show.

I don't really care much about any of the characters. Don't care who lives or dies. And now I'm getting bored with the zombies. The action is usually cheesy and there isn't much real horror. Hopefully it gets darker when it comes back.

That flu episode was super dark and pretty damned horrifying, IMO.

 

[TheIronSheik]

So if you guys were in charge, and you had free reign to take the series wherever you wanted, what would you guys do to make the show more watchable, in your opinion? Serious question.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

So if you guys were in charge, and you had free reign to take the series wherever you wanted, what would you guys do to make the show more watchable, in your opinion? Serious question.

1. Fire every single writer.

 

[TheIronSheik]

So if you guys were in charge, and you had free reign to take the series wherever you wanted, what would you guys do to make the show more watchable, in your opinion? Serious question.

1. Fire every single writer.

No. I meant if you were the writing the story line, Wisenheimer.

 

[Disco Stu]

So if you guys were in charge, and you had free reign to take the series wherever you wanted, what would you guys do to make the show more watchable, in your opinion? Serious question.

1. Fire every single writer.

No. I meant if you were the writing the story line, Wisenheimer.

Moar cats. And Zombie Ditka.

 

[Parrothead]

Maggie would be all soapy and naked in the shower for approximately 19 minutes every episode

 

[danielmclark]

So if you guys were in charge, and you had free reign to take the series wherever you wanted, what would you guys do to make the show more watchable, in your opinion? Serious question.

I would do exactly what they did at the end of the episode this week: ruin the prison and scatter the group. I think that was probably the best idea they've had in a long time as far as the group dynamic goes. The farm, Woodbury, the prison... too many secure locations. Weaken them and put them on the run again. Let's see what they're made of. Character is revealed when someone has an obstacle and has to overcome it... farming vegetables at the prison isn't an obstacle.

 

[TheIronSheik]

So if you guys were in charge, and you had free reign to take the series wherever you wanted, what would you guys do to make the show more watchable, in your opinion? Serious question.

I would do exactly what they did at the end of the episode this week: ruin the prison and scatter the group. I think that was probably the best idea they've had in a long time as far as the group dynamic goes. The farm, Woodbury, the prison... too many secure locations. Weaken them and put them on the run again. Let's see what they're made of. Character is revealed when someone has an obstacle and has to overcome it... farming vegetables at the prison isn't an obstacle.

Fair enough.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

So if you guys were in charge, and you had free reign to take the series wherever you wanted, what would you guys do to make the show more watchable, in your opinion? Serious question.

1. Fire every single writer.

No. I meant if you were the writing the story line, Wisenheimer.

Introduce a character named Wisenheimer for comic relief.

 

[bigbottom]

I didn't get the impression Brian's group was supposed to be well trained in terms of combat. Looked like a rag tag group who just went along with his plan. Not surprised they weren't able to land a lot of shots. I would expect the prison group to be more well trained even if they were at a numbers disadvantage.

As far as the battle itself, the main character was wounded, his child may have been eaten, another main character was beheaded, the main villain of the past season-plus was killed and a little girl he had grown attached to was attacked and killed. I don't think there was a shortage of bloodshed in this episode.

And yet they didn't automatically take Rick up on his offer to let them live there. Regardless of having a tank they weren't prepared for battle, especially against an enemy supposedly as bad as Brian had claimed.

It was also pretty stupid that none of them demanded to talk to the hostages before agreeing to this plan. Lots of logic holes but that's nothing new to this show.

Yeah but, their number 1 and number 2 leaders had been killed. There was a leadership vacuum and the Gov filled it. I don't see that as a logic hole. I think it's pretty realistic in a post-apocalyptic scenario that a bunch of follower types would follow a strong leader promising something better without making a bunch of contrary demands.

 

[bigbottom]

The only thing I took as REALLY stupid was when Daryl shoved a grenade down the barrel of the tank and the inside of the tank exploded. That wouldn't happen. Would it even mess the barrel of the tank up? I don't think it was an incendiary grenade.

A grenade down the barrel will #### up a tank.

If the breach was left open, maybe.

It clearly was.

The only thing I took as REALLY stupid was when Daryl shoved a grenade down the barrel of the tank and the inside of the tank exploded. That wouldn't happen. Would it even mess the barrel of the tank up? I don't think it was an incendiary grenade.

Also REALLY stupid:

-Headshot Carl suddenly can't shoot 50 yards with a friggin rifle. "OMG it's 50 yards!!!" -Daryl

-Daryl holding up the zombie as a shield while people 20 yards away fired machine guns at him. He'd be full of holes.

-The previously mentioned ignoring of Rick. But also Rick and all these peeps with knives all over their person, but Rick goes for the flying body block on the Governor instead of just stabbing him.

- Cutty using a 4" post and then some pots as cover. Completely unscathed.

-Just about everything involving the tank.

-Chick suddenly walking up with her dead daughter out of nowhere. OHAI

-Zombies suddenly showing up all over the camp - I though there was one massive tank hole in the fence? Did some errant shots from the tank blow more?

Funny you mention that. Last episode at the prison, Rick and Carl were engaging zombies at close range with M4s equipped wth ACOG sights. Sights meant for range shooting. Suddenly when they are shooting at range, they're using iron sights on a lever action rifle and a red dot sit which has no zoom. Quite honestly, with the rifle supported by the fence and an ACOG sight, everyone in this thread could hit a man sized stationary target at 100 yards.

Didn't Carl shoot the Governor?

 

[TheIronSheik]

So if you guys were in charge, and you had free reign to take the series wherever you wanted, what would you guys do to make the show more watchable, in your opinion? Serious question.

1. Fire every single writer.

No. I meant if you were the writing the story line, Wisenheimer.

Introduce a character named Wisenheimer for comic relief.

 

[Loan Sharks]

So if you guys were in charge, and you had free reign to take the series wherever you wanted, what would you guys do to make the show more watchable, in your opinion? Serious question.

1. Fire every single writer.

No. I meant if you were the writing the story line, Wisenheimer.

Introduce a character named Wisenheimer for comic relief.

I would introduce more babies in the cast, they are so interesting and really drive the audience to serious show discussion.

 

[zoonation]

There wasn't nearly enough blood in that car seat for a zombie to have mowed Jude. The blood looked more like it came from dirty hands/arms. There would be a pool of blood and bones in there if it was a place setting for a meal.

 

[(HULK)]

I think the people analyzing the buckle on the car seat are probably paying more attention to detail than the producers are.

That may very well be true. They obviously had to take the baby out of the car seat to shoot the scene. Who knows if they considered rebuckling...Best case scenario - we do see Judith again but as a zombie. Can a zombie baby walk? Or does that have to be learned before reanimating?

Zombie baby would rule.

Been done. Dawn of the Dead remake imo.

No teeth, so, not very dangerous.

 

[Disco Stu]

There wasn't nearly enough blood in that car seat for a zombie to have mowed Jude. The blood looked more like it came from dirty hands/arms. There would be a pool of blood and bones in there if it was a place setting for a meal.

They're not going to show baby bones imo, but this looks like plenty of blood to me.

If it was just the sides I would agree it came from dirty hands and arms, but it's darkest in the area blood would pool. The straps are completely soaked.

 

[(HULK)]

So if you guys were in charge, and you had free reign to take the series wherever you wanted, what would you guys do to make the show more watchable, in your opinion? Serious question.

Zombie Velociraptors.

 

[Parrothead]

and zombie honey badgers.. oh, and zombie hornets

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

There wasn't nearly enough blood in that car seat for a zombie to have mowed Jude. The blood looked more like it came from dirty hands/arms. There would be a pool of blood and bones in there if it was a place setting for a meal.

They're not going to show baby bones imo, but this looks like plenty of blood to me.

If it was just the sides I would agree it came from dirty hands and arms, but it's darkest in the area blood would pool. The straps are completely soaked.

 

[(HULK)]

So if you guys were in charge, and you had free reign to take the series wherever you wanted, what would you guys do to make the show more watchable, in your opinion? Serious question.

Zombie Velociraptors.

Time traveling zombie Judith searches for her mom, since she is her constant. Carol grows longer hair. Daryl finds his other brother Daryl and shaves his head. Maggie runs out of shirts.

 

[Jayrok]

So if you guys were in charge, and you had free reign to take the series wherever you wanted, what would you guys do to make the show more watchable, in your opinion? Serious question.

For the scene with Michonne stabbing the gov, I would have had her help Rick get out of danger and as she was leaving, stop, turn around... and put her sword in its sheath and sit down indian-style and wait for him to turn. Maybe even kill a few on-coming zombies so they couldn't get to him while he was alive. Then have fun with him as he tries to get to her as a walker... limb by limb cut him down and finish him off with a swing to lop his head off, a la O-Ren Ishii on the meeting table in Kill Bill Vol 1.

 

[(HULK)]

There wasn't nearly enough blood in that car seat for a zombie to have mowed Jude. The blood looked more like it came from dirty hands/arms. There would be a pool of blood and bones in there if it was a place setting for a meal.

They're not going to show baby bones imo, but this looks like plenty of blood to me.

If it was just the sides I would agree it came from dirty hands and arms, but it's darkest in the area blood would pool. The straps are completely soaked.

We sure the pink at the bottom is blood and not the color of the material? There is a pink stripe on the top, it could be matching. Which would translate to not much blood at all.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

There wasn't nearly enough blood in that car seat for a zombie to have mowed Jude. The blood looked more like it came from dirty hands/arms. There would be a pool of blood and bones in there if it was a place setting for a meal.

They're not going to show baby bones imo, but this looks like plenty of blood to me.

If it was just the sides I would agree it came from dirty hands and arms, but it's darkest in the area blood would pool. The straps are completely soaked.

We sure the pink at the bottom is blood and not the color of the material? There is a pink stripe on the top, it could be matching. Which would translate to not much blood at all.

Here's the amount of thought I put into the stupid baby that Rick has pretty much never been with in a scene since she was "born".

"Hmm, looks like the baby got got."

Then after seeing the massive over-acting by Rick when he finds out.:

"Hmm, maybe he's just going to think the baby is dead for awhile and meanwhile someone else has to lug it around for him again."

 

[kentric]

I know I'm likely going against the grain on this, but on Talking Dead I didn't think Lauren Cohen (Maggie) looked all that great. Too much makeup poorly applied IMO. She looks so much better with the natural, girl next-door/farmer's daughter look.

I agree 100%. I also thought she sounded as dumb as a bag of hammers.

And lastly, and it pains me to say this because it goes against everything I've ever said, but I prefer her crappy southern accent to her real British accent. She's the only girl I've ever heard who makes a British accent sound bad.

I was thinking the same thing. I was considering that maybe she was dumbing it up on purpose. It was rather painful listening to her.