***OFFICIAL 'The Walking Dead' TV Series Thread*** (3 Viewers)

[culdeus]

That abandoned unfinished mall didn't look like the worst place to setup as a fallback site if shtf.

 

[cstu]

Oh, and not sure if mentioned............

These commercials for "I Zombie", wow. This show looks to be the kind that last for like, half of the first episode then get pulled for a rerun of Cheers or something.

It's Veronica Mars if she was a zombie occasionally who got psychic visions from eating brain.

 

[culdeus]

Even if it were theoretically possible to cause detonation by a bullet, by penetrating the grenade shell you have effectively neutralized the effectiveness of the grenade by breaching its containment and giving the explosion an easy escape route through the hole or crack. So a grenade shot by a bullet would still go off when the timed fuse trips, but it would be more noise and flash than anything deadly.

Go get a grenade, shoot it, film it, and put it on youtube.

Until this happens, I will forever assume they blow up when shot.

So you think it's probable that a grenade, or 10 grenades for giggles have enough force to push someone 20 feet back and impale them on two sections of rebar metal 15 inches through their body? Grenades, specifically by design are meant to send their force equally in all directions.

That entire plot sequence was pretty dumb. A 308 blows up a grenade but can't get through an armored helmet? Please.

 

[stbugs]

http://i.imgur.com/G33d7gn.jpg

Nice. Loved that line, fits him perfectly. If anyone was going to say it, it was him.

 

[SacramentoBob]

Even if it were theoretically possible to cause detonation by a bullet, by penetrating the grenade shell you have effectively neutralized the effectiveness of the grenade by breaching its containment and giving the explosion an easy escape route through the hole or crack. So a grenade shot by a bullet would still go off when the timed fuse trips, but it would be more noise and flash than anything deadly.

Go get a grenade, shoot it, film it, and put it on youtube.

Until this happens, I will forever assume they blow up when shot.

It was basically some writer saying "yknow what would be really cool? Accidentally blowing up grenades with a gun".

 

[Super King]

Even if it were theoretically possible to cause detonation by a bullet, by penetrating the grenade shell you have effectively neutralized the effectiveness of the grenade by breaching its containment and giving the explosion an easy escape route through the hole or crack. So a grenade shot by a bullet would still go off when the timed fuse trips, but it would be more noise and flash than anything deadly.

Go get a grenade, shoot it, film it, and put it on youtube.

Until this happens, I will forever assume they blow up when shot.

doesn't hurt that Aiden might have been the worst shot in the world. A gay guy and a child are better with a gun.

 

[stbugs]

Even if it were theoretically possible to cause detonation by a bullet, by penetrating the grenade shell you have effectively neutralized the effectiveness of the grenade by breaching its containment and giving the explosion an easy escape route through the hole or crack. So a grenade shot by a bullet would still go off when the timed fuse trips, but it would be more noise and flash than anything deadly.

Go get a grenade, shoot it, film it, and put it on youtube.

Until this happens, I will forever assume they blow up when shot.

LOL, I don't feel like re-watching that scene, but we had Glenn's view from behind the boxes when he hit the grenade. You know for a fact that he didn't move up after the zombie went down? Wouldn't it make sense to move up since it is hard to hit it in the head from 20 feet while the zombie is on the ground with its head away from you? Since his buddy who was next to him wasn't dead, maybe that would indicate he did move up. Also, did he even hit the helmet square on? I have no idea what happened, but unless we saw that seen from Members Only's view point, I have no idea how dumb that sequence was.

If you'd like to diagram the entire scene, I'll hang up and listen.

 

[snogger]

http://i.imgur.com/G33d7gn.jpg

Why do I have a feeling "MotherDick" is going to be the name of thousands of Fantasy Football team this upcoming year??

 

[gianmarco]

http://i.imgur.com/G33d7gn.jpg

Why do I have a feeling "MotherDick" is going to be the name of thousands of Fantasy Football team this upcoming year??

It's so simple it's genius. I mean, how did it take until 2015 for someone to coin that phrase?

Here's the next big thing: mother#####.

 

[SacramentoBob]

http://i.imgur.com/G33d7gn.jpg

Why do I have a feeling "MotherDick" is going to be the name of thousands of Fantasy Football team this upcoming year??

It's so simple it's genius. I mean, how did it take until 2015 for someone to coin that phrase?

Here's the next big thing: mother#####.

It's funny, I've made up all sorts of cuss words like #####**** and dickneck, but never thought of motherdick.

 

[gianmarco]

RIP

 

[skol asylum]

I'm going to say the doc drinks but he's harmless. The kid is just messed up, maybe not Lizzie messed up, but messed up. Zombie apocalypses have a way of doing that to people. So Carol is projecting her life experiences on to the poor guy and will get Rick to kill him. Only after will he find out his error. That along with Father Gabriel and the governess's son being killed will cause chaos, just as the Wolves begin their attack.

 

[SacramentoBob]

How do zombies digest their food? Shouldn't their stomachs be huge?

 

[packersfan]

Dolphin smooth is still Abraham's best line in my opinion. Really don't think anything else comes close.

 

[culdeus]

What would 2 plus year old beer taste like that was stored in non climate control?

 

[Megla]

I'm going to say the doc drinks but he's harmless. The kid is just messed up, maybe not Lizzie messed up, but messed up. Zombie apocalypses have a way of doing that to people. So Carol is projecting her life experiences on to the poor guy and will get Rick to kill him. Only after will he find out his error. That along with Father Gabriel and the governess's son being killed will cause chaos, just as the Wolves begin their attack.

Rick killing the Doc will have noting to do with Carol or what she says and everything to do with him coveting his wife.

 

[Megla]

http://i.imgur.com/G33d7gn.jpg

Why do I have a feeling "MotherDick" is going to be the name of thousands of Fantasy Football team this upcoming year??

What no porch #####

 

[Jayrok]

I'm going to say the doc drinks but he's harmless. The kid is just messed up, maybe not Lizzie messed up, but messed up. Zombie apocalypses have a way of doing that to people. So Carol is projecting her life experiences on to the poor guy and will get Rick to kill him. Only after will he find out his error. That along with Father Gabriel and the governess's son being killed will cause chaos, just as the Wolves begin their attack.

Rick killing the Doc will have noting to do with Carol or what she says and everything to do with him coveting his wife.

Well, what's not to covet? She looks delicious.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

What would 2 plus year old beer taste like that was stored in non climate control?

Exactly like PBR fresh from the brewery.

 

[GregR]

Sounds like with a modern grenade, the Composition B that is the main explosive wouldn't be set off by the impact or even sparks from a bullet. It takes an explosive to set it off. Which would mean the bullet would probably have to hit and detonate the charge similar to a blasting cap at the end of the fuse in the middle of the grenade that is what sets the grenade off under normal circumstances.

 

[[icon]]

When do you guys think the Smoke Monster makes an appearance? Jacob?

 

[stbugs]

What would 2 plus year old beer taste like that was stored in non climate control?

Awful. Back in high school, I grabbed some Natural Light that somebody must have given my dad years prior (not a beer he liked and of course a top shelf gift) and brought it to a buddy's house. We were playing cards and drinking whatever we found and even cold that #### tasted like vinegar. It was so bad it became the punishment for losing.

 

[stbugs]

Sounds like with a modern grenade, the Composition B that is the main explosive wouldn't be set off by the impact or even sparks from a bullet. It takes an explosive to set it off. Which would mean the bullet would probably have to hit and detonate the charge similar to a blasting cap at the end of the fuse in the middle of the grenade that is what sets the grenade off under normal circumstances.

Probably. I think that is why the shotgun avoided an explosion all together, it basically blew it apart to the point where the detonator was separated from the charge.

 

[skol asylum]

I'm going to say the doc drinks but he's harmless. The kid is just messed up, maybe not Lizzie messed up, but messed up. Zombie apocalypses have a way of doing that to people. So Carol is projecting her life experiences on to the poor guy and will get Rick to kill him. Only after will he find out his error. That along with Father Gabriel and the governess's son being killed will cause chaos, just as the Wolves begin their attack.

Rick killing the Doc will have noting to do with Carol or what she says and everything to do with him coveting his wife.

Well, that too. Might as well change his name to Shane.

 

[packersfan]

I'm going to say the doc drinks but he's harmless. The kid is just messed up, maybe not Lizzie messed up, but messed up. Zombie apocalypses have a way of doing that to people. So Carol is projecting her life experiences on to the poor guy and will get Rick to kill him. Only after will he find out his error. That along with Father Gabriel and the governess's son being killed will cause chaos, just as the Wolves begin their attack.

Rick killing the Doc will have noting to do with Carol or what she says and everything to do with him coveting his wife.

Well, that too. Might as well change his name to Shane.

He's been channeling his Inner Shane for awhile now.

 

[tdoss]

Even if it were theoretically possible to cause detonation by a bullet, by penetrating the grenade shell you have effectively neutralized the effectiveness of the grenade by breaching its containment and giving the explosion an easy escape route through the hole or crack. So a grenade shot by a bullet would still go off when the timed fuse trips, but it would be more noise and flash than anything deadly.

Go get a grenade, shoot it, film it, and put it on youtube.

Until this happens, I will forever assume they blow up when shot.

While we're asking our resident public defender of everything Walking Dead...ask how a walker can rip a man's face apart with its bare hands or rip a man's gut/chest open.

I can't do that right now...

But let's say they get some zombie superstrength from the virus. One that turns their skulls to egg shells but turns their fingers to iron and grip strength of Hulk...why can't a horde of them break glass when we see them pile up at a window?

 

[tdoss]

Even if it were theoretically possible to cause detonation by a bullet, by penetrating the grenade shell you have effectively neutralized the effectiveness of the grenade by breaching its containment and giving the explosion an easy escape route through the hole or crack. So a grenade shot by a bullet would still go off when the timed fuse trips, but it would be more noise and flash than anything deadly.

Go get a grenade, shoot it, film it, and put it on youtube.

Until this happens, I will forever assume they blow up when shot.

And this is why you'll continue to see people point out the enormous flaws in this shows writing.Instead of just saying, "yea...it was kinda dumb"...this dude continues to act like nothing is amiss.

He keeps acting like the show is perfect and infallable (although admitting the van scene was below standard even for a low rent b-rated drive-in double feature type of flick...but honestly...how could anyone defend that scene?)

 

[tdoss]

I'm going to say the doc drinks but he's harmless. The kid is just messed up, maybe not Lizzie messed up, but messed up. Zombie apocalypses have a way of doing that to people. So Carol is projecting her life experiences on to the poor guy and will get Rick to kill him. Only after will he find out his error. That along with Father Gabriel and the governess's son being killed will cause chaos, just as the Wolves begin their attack.

Ding ding...we have a winner.

 

[tommyboy]

I really want this whole Alexandria thing to just come to a violent horrible end. None of them are sympathetic characters to me, they all live in a fantasy world that will never come back. This entanglement has cost them a couple lives and not worth it at all. Just kill them all, throw the preacher into a pack of hungry walkers and either take the place over for yourselves, or leave and move on to the next objective.

unless they define what their purpose is as a group, their only goal is to stay alive each day for now, which makes them hunter/gatherer nomads. Being confined doesn't work

 

[packersfan]

unless they define what their purpose is as a group, their only goal is to stay alive each day for now, which makes them hunter/gatherer nomads. Being confined doesn't work

This seems to be one of the biggest questions the show is posing right now - Can these people successfully adapt to a more "normal" environment or are they destined to just walk the woods being nomadic savages? Have they done too much and gone too far to go back to any kind of normal type of living? Or will they just destroy everything in their path?

 

[Jayrok]

unless they define what their purpose is as a group, their only goal is to stay alive each day for now, which makes them hunter/gatherer nomads. Being confined doesn't work

This seems to be one of the biggest questions the show is posing right now - Can these people successfully adapt to a more "normal" environment or are they destined to just walk the woods being nomadic savages? Have they done too much and gone too far to go back to any kind of normal type of living? Or will they just destroy everything in their path?

This is an interesting take. Rick's behavior towards Jessie is an example. He's been in the wild so long he has taken on the survive at all costs mentality.. that means take food, take shelter.. whatever. Like he told Aaron in the barn.. "these cans are ours now.. whether we go with you or not, these are ours." There isn't much regard for the belongings of others outside his family/group.

He sees Jessie and wants her. Her having a hubby never crossed his mind because, well, now it's every man for himself.. until he talked with Pete, who asked him about his wife. Rick may have taken a bit of a pause right then. When Pete left Rick glanced at his own ring. Perhaps at that moment he thought what am I doing? Marriage still means something even in this wasteland.

But I imagine after hearing Carol say the guy is beating Jessie and maybe the boy, all those feelings may have flew out the window and now he's back focused on getting rid of Pete and claiming Jessie as his own. Just a thought.

 

[cstu]

unless they define what their purpose is as a group, their only goal is to stay alive each day for now, which makes them hunter/gatherer nomads. Being confined doesn't work

This seems to be one of the biggest questions the show is posing right now - Can these people successfully adapt to a more "normal" environment or are they destined to just walk the woods being nomadic savages? Have they done too much and gone too far to go back to any kind of normal type of living? Or will they just destroy everything in their path?

They haven't destroyed anything in their path that wasn't going to be destroyed eventually. Alexandria is a ticking time bomb waiting for someone to attack it and kill everyone inside.

Why they want to stay in Alexandria instead of building their own community in one of the millions of places they could choose all around DC is beyond me.

 

[cstu]

unless they define what their purpose is as a group, their only goal is to stay alive each day for now, which makes them hunter/gatherer nomads. Being confined doesn't work

This seems to be one of the biggest questions the show is posing right now - Can these people successfully adapt to a more "normal" environment or are they destined to just walk the woods being nomadic savages? Have they done too much and gone too far to go back to any kind of normal type of living? Or will they just destroy everything in their path?

This is an interesting take. Rick's behavior towards Jessie is an example. He's been in the wild so long he has taken on the survive at all costs mentality.. that means take food, take shelter.. whatever. Like he told Aaron in the barn.. "these cans are ours now.. whether we go with you or not, these are ours." There isn't much regard for the belongings of others outside his family/group.

He sees Jessie and wants her. Her having a hubby never crossed his mind because, well, now it's every man for himself.. until he talked with Pete, who asked him about his wife. Rick may have taken a bit of a pause right then. When Pete left Rick glanced at his own ring. Perhaps at that moment he thought what am I doing? Marriage still means something even in this wasteland.

But I imagine after hearing Carol say the guy is beating Jessie and maybe the boy, all those feelings may have flew out the window and now he's back focused on getting rid of Pete and claiming Jessie as his own. Just a thought.

He's getting very close to Shane...

 

[cstu]

I really want this whole Alexandria thing to just come to a violent horrible end. None of them are sympathetic characters to me, they all live in a fantasy world that will never come back. This entanglement has cost them a couple lives and not worth it at all. Just kill them all, throw the preacher into a pack of hungry walkers and either take the place over for yourselves, or leave and move on to the next objective.

unless they define what their purpose is as a group, their only goal is to stay alive each day for now, which makes them hunter/gatherer nomads. Being confined doesn't work

 

[packersfan]

unless they define what their purpose is as a group, their only goal is to stay alive each day for now, which makes them hunter/gatherer nomads. Being confined doesn't work

This seems to be one of the biggest questions the show is posing right now - Can these people successfully adapt to a more "normal" environment or are they destined to just walk the woods being nomadic savages? Have they done too much and gone too far to go back to any kind of normal type of living? Or will they just destroy everything in their path?

This is an interesting take. Rick's behavior towards Jessie is an example. He's been in the wild so long he has taken on the survive at all costs mentality.. that means take food, take shelter.. whatever. Like he told Aaron in the barn.. "these cans are ours now.. whether we go with you or not, these are ours." There isn't much regard for the belongings of others outside his family/group.

He sees Jessie and wants her. Her having a hubby never crossed his mind because, well, now it's every man for himself.. until he talked with Pete, who asked him about his wife. Rick may have taken a bit of a pause right then. When Pete left Rick glanced at his own ring. Perhaps at that moment he thought what am I doing? Marriage still means something even in this wasteland.

I thought Porch D**k was clearly trying to get a rise out of Rick with the wife comment. Rick knew it and didn't like it and wanted to kill him even more now.

I agree Rick's sense of savagery is at an all-time high. I think the only thing keeping him grounded in any way are the people he's with. If he was by himself he'd be taking, killing and doing whatever the hell he wanted without a second thought. The change in his character over time has really been fun to watch.

 

[cstu]

But I imagine after hearing Carol say the guy is beating Jessie and maybe the boy, all those feelings may have flew out the window and now he's back focused on getting rid of Pete and claiming Jessie as his own. Just a thought.

Old Rick would have talked sense into Carol and told her that even though he's an abuser they can't go around killing people who commit crimes (is it even a crime in Alexandria?). Now he's so focused on getting Jessie that he goes right along with it as if there really is no other option.

 

[tdoss]

unless they define what their purpose is as a group, their only goal is to stay alive each day for now, which makes them hunter/gatherer nomads. Being confined doesn't work

This seems to be one of the biggest questions the show is posing right now - Can these people successfully adapt to a more "normal" environment or are they destined to just walk the woods being nomadic savages? Have they done too much and gone too far to go back to any kind of normal type of living? Or will they just destroy everything in their path?

This is an interesting take. Rick's behavior towards Jessie is an example. He's been in the wild so long he has taken on the survive at all costs mentality.. that means take food, take shelter.. whatever. Like he told Aaron in the barn.. "these cans are ours now.. whether we go with you or not, these are ours." There isn't much regard for the belongings of others outside his family/group.

He sees Jessie and wants her. Her having a hubby never crossed his mind because, well, now it's every man for himself.. until he talked with Pete, who asked him about his wife. Rick may have taken a bit of a pause right then. When Pete left Rick glanced at his own ring. Perhaps at that moment he thought what am I doing? Marriage still means something even in this wasteland.

But I imagine after hearing Carol say the guy is beating Jessie and maybe the boy, all those feelings may have flew out the window and now he's back focused on getting rid of Pete and claiming Jessie as his own. Just a thought.

I think this is right on the money.

 

[bigbottom]

unless they define what their purpose is as a group, their only goal is to stay alive each day for now, which makes them hunter/gatherer nomads. Being confined doesn't work

This seems to be one of the biggest questions the show is posing right now - Can these people successfully adapt to a more "normal" environment or are they destined to just walk the woods being nomadic savages? Have they done too much and gone too far to go back to any kind of normal type of living? Or will they just destroy everything in their path?

They haven't destroyed anything in their path that wasn't going to be destroyed eventually. Alexandria is a ticking time bomb waiting for someone to attack it and kill everyone inside.

Why they want to stay in Alexandria instead of building their own community in one of the millions of places they could choose all around DC is beyond me.

Alexandria has a bunch of resources that aren't really available most places (or anywhere) due to it being a planned sustainable community.

 

[cstu]

I thought Porch D**k was clearly trying to get a rise out of Rick with the wife comment. Rick knew it and didn't like it and wanted to kill him even more now.

I agree Rick's sense of savagery is at an all-time high. I think the only thing keeping him grounded in any way are the people he's with. If he was by himself he'd be taking, killing and doing whatever the hell he wanted without a second thought. The change in his character over time has really been fun to watch.

Agreed. The people around him are the ones keeping him from losing his moral compass - just as it would be for most of us.

 

[cstu]

unless they define what their purpose is as a group, their only goal is to stay alive each day for now, which makes them hunter/gatherer nomads. Being confined doesn't work

This seems to be one of the biggest questions the show is posing right now - Can these people successfully adapt to a more "normal" environment or are they destined to just walk the woods being nomadic savages? Have they done too much and gone too far to go back to any kind of normal type of living? Or will they just destroy everything in their path?

They haven't destroyed anything in their path that wasn't going to be destroyed eventually. Alexandria is a ticking time bomb waiting for someone to attack it and kill everyone inside.

Why they want to stay in Alexandria instead of building their own community in one of the millions of places they could choose all around DC is beyond me.

Alexandria has a bunch of resources that aren't really available most places (or anywhere) due to it being a planned sustainable community.

Step 1 - find a lake

Step 2 - install some solar panels

Step 3 - build a wall with braces on the inside

 

[packersfan]

I thought Porch D**k was clearly trying to get a rise out of Rick with the wife comment. Rick knew it and didn't like it and wanted to kill him even more now.

I agree Rick's sense of savagery is at an all-time high. I think the only thing keeping him grounded in any way are the people he's with. If he was by himself he'd be taking, killing and doing whatever the hell he wanted without a second thought. The change in his character over time has really been fun to watch.

Agreed. The people around him are the ones keeping him from losing his moral compass - just as it would be for most of us.

He killed the cop when he was on his own and nobody was around to talk him out of it. The other times he's wanted blood he's been talked out of it except for the Termite slaughter in the church. There was really no choice there and I think everyone knew it.

In retrospect, talking him out of his plans wasn't the best idea. Not just killing all the Termites meant Bob got eaten and not going in guns blazing to get Beth meant she died. I'm guessing Rick hasn't forgotten any of that.

 

[packersfan]

unless they define what their purpose is as a group, their only goal is to stay alive each day for now, which makes them hunter/gatherer nomads. Being confined doesn't work

This seems to be one of the biggest questions the show is posing right now - Can these people successfully adapt to a more "normal" environment or are they destined to just walk the woods being nomadic savages? Have they done too much and gone too far to go back to any kind of normal type of living? Or will they just destroy everything in their path?

They haven't destroyed anything in their path that wasn't going to be destroyed eventually. Alexandria is a ticking time bomb waiting for someone to attack it and kill everyone inside.

Why they want to stay in Alexandria instead of building their own community in one of the millions of places they could choose all around DC is beyond me.

Alexandria has a bunch of resources that aren't really available most places (or anywhere) due to it being a planned sustainable community.

Yeah of all the places we've seen so far this looks like the one best equipped to deal with the current environment.

Which probably means BadAssRickGrimes is gonna tear it all down.

 

[cstu]

I thought Porch D**k was clearly trying to get a rise out of Rick with the wife comment. Rick knew it and didn't like it and wanted to kill him even more now.

I agree Rick's sense of savagery is at an all-time high. I think the only thing keeping him grounded in any way are the people he's with. If he was by himself he'd be taking, killing and doing whatever the hell he wanted without a second thought. The change in his character over time has really been fun to watch.

Agreed. The people around him are the ones keeping him from losing his moral compass - just as it would be for most of us.

He killed the cop when he was on his own and nobody was around to talk him out of it. The other times he's wanted blood he's been talked out of it except for the Termite slaughter in the church. There was really no choice there and I think everyone knew it.

In retrospect, talking him out of his plans wasn't the best idea. Not just killing all the Termites meant Bob got eaten and not going in guns blazing to get Beth meant she died. I'm guessing Rick hasn't forgotten any of that.

He politely asked him to stop running.

 

[TenTimes]

What would 2 plus year old beer taste like that was stored in non climate control?

domestic violence

 

[SacramentoBob]

unless they define what their purpose is as a group, their only goal is to stay alive each day for now, which makes them hunter/gatherer nomads. Being confined doesn't work

This seems to be one of the biggest questions the show is posing right now - Can these people successfully adapt to a more "normal" environment or are they destined to just walk the woods being nomadic savages? Have they done too much and gone too far to go back to any kind of normal type of living? Or will they just destroy everything in their path?

They haven't destroyed anything in their path that wasn't going to be destroyed eventually. Alexandria is a ticking time bomb waiting for someone to attack it and kill everyone inside.

Why they want to stay in Alexandria instead of building their own community in one of the millions of places they could choose all around DC is beyond me.

Alexandria has a bunch of resources that aren't really available most places (or anywhere) due to it being a planned sustainable community.

Hot wives that need rescuing from abusive husbands.

 

[packersfan]

I thought Porch D**k was clearly trying to get a rise out of Rick with the wife comment. Rick knew it and didn't like it and wanted to kill him even more now.

I agree Rick's sense of savagery is at an all-time high. I think the only thing keeping him grounded in any way are the people he's with. If he was by himself he'd be taking, killing and doing whatever the hell he wanted without a second thought. The change in his character over time has really been fun to watch.

Agreed. The people around him are the ones keeping him from losing his moral compass - just as it would be for most of us.

He killed the cop when he was on his own and nobody was around to talk him out of it. The other times he's wanted blood he's been talked out of it except for the Termite slaughter in the church. There was really no choice there and I think everyone knew it.

In retrospect, talking him out of his plans wasn't the best idea. Not just killing all the Termites meant Bob got eaten and not going in guns blazing to get Beth meant she died. I'm guessing Rick hasn't forgotten any of that.

He politely asked him to stop running.

I was totally fine with Rick's decision for that very reason.

 

[tonydead]

Worst second half of a series ever. The dumb####s in Alexandra is the worst piece of writing for a story arc I can possibly think of. What were they thinking: Well we've done the find a compound full of bad people 3 or 4 times now, lets change up the story and find a compound of complete idiots instead.

 

[Jayrok]

But I imagine after hearing Carol say the guy is beating Jessie and maybe the boy, all those feelings may have flew out the window and now he's back focused on getting rid of Pete and claiming Jessie as his own. Just a thought.

Old Rick would have talked sense into Carol and told her that even though he's an abuser they can't go around killing people who commit crimes (is it even a crime in Alexandria?). Now he's so focused on getting Jessie that he goes right along with it as if there really is no other option.

I think so too. Old Carol did what she thought would help the group survive back at the prison. Rick wasn't ready to be in that type of mental state so he thought he needed to punish her.

New Rick would have never banned old Carol after what she did at the prison. Just part of surviving and he knows that now.

 

[packersfan]

But I imagine after hearing Carol say the guy is beating Jessie and maybe the boy, all those feelings may have flew out the window and now he's back focused on getting rid of Pete and claiming Jessie as his own. Just a thought.

Old Rick would have talked sense into Carol and told her that even though he's an abuser they can't go around killing people who commit crimes (is it even a crime in Alexandria?). Now he's so focused on getting Jessie that he goes right along with it as if there really is no other option.

I think so too. Old Carol did what she thought would help the group survive back at the prison. Rick wasn't ready to be in that type of mental state so he thought he needed to punish her.

New Rick would have never banned old Carol after what she did at the prison. Just part of surviving and he knows that now.

Herschel getting his head chopped off and Carl almost getting raped put an end to Old Rick.

 

[kentric]

unless they define what their purpose is as a group, their only goal is to stay alive each day for now, which makes them hunter/gatherer nomads. Being confined doesn't work

This seems to be one of the biggest questions the show is posing right now - Can these people successfully adapt to a more "normal" environment or are they destined to just walk the woods being nomadic savages? Have they done too much and gone too far to go back to any kind of normal type of living? Or will they just destroy everything in their path?

They haven't destroyed anything in their path that wasn't going to be destroyed eventually. Alexandria is a ticking time bomb waiting for someone to attack it and kill everyone inside.

Why they want to stay in Alexandria instead of building their own community in one of the millions of places they could choose all around DC is beyond me.

The fences CSTU, the fences...