CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
This is just insult to injury since winning the Group would've meant another prime time game rather than middle of the night.
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Official US Women's soccer thread: Gold Cup Final- US 1 - Brazil 0! (1 Viewer)
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This is just insult to injury since winning the Group would've meant another prime time game rather than middle of the night.
B Maverick
Footballguy
I don't mind the use of VAR to make sure. I hate that it isn't held to the same "clear and obvious mistake" standard that other reviews are held too.
Like you said, a game looking to increase scoring shouldn't be doing all it can to chalk off goals, like his knee or a piece of his hair was off.
B Maverick
Footballguy
Not to mention a possible rematch with the Dutch or having to play Spain.
Spain and England have moved ahead of the US by oddsmakers.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
Yup. This is why we were concerned with coming in second in the group. A tournament favorite like the US made their life so much harder. Maybe this helps though as they have to get things fixed quickly but if they beat Sweden they are likely to get some confidence, something that has been lacking the last two games.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
you could have received some massive odds betting that both the men and women from Germany would be eliminated in the group stage.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
Spain would've been on the docket either way. A round earlier, actually, if they'd won the group.
The big difference is Sweden in the first round rather than South Africa. Second round would be likely-Spain vs likely-Japan so kind of a wash. And then the brackets meet up after that so everything the same from that point on.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
So to win it all they could end up having to beat Sweden, Japan, Spain, England all in a row. Which would be insane.
I'm sure in the (probably very likely, at this point) event that they lose one of these games (maybe even the first) we will be inundated with all kinds of piling on about heart or focusing on playing instead of politics or whatever. But the reality this team is merely pretty good, and not really a step above any of those teams. Our most skilled players are old and slow now. Our young athletic players lack the skill of the last generation and rely too much on natural ability, which the better teams have shown they can handle.
I haven't seen anything that concerned me with regards to "want" or "focus" like some analysts and much of the broader public are portraying. The reality is they're just not anywhere near a super team like they were in the past and at this point, given that and the road to get there, they're probably a longshot to win it. But I'm not worried about the other fluff I've seen around where they're being portrayed as Schrodinger's soccer team, simultaneously caring too little to play better and caring too much by celebrating too hard.
I'm sure in the (probably very likely, at this point) event that they lose one of these games (maybe even the first) we will be inundated with all kinds of piling on about heart or focusing on playing instead of politics or whatever. But the reality this team is merely pretty good, and not really a step above any of those teams. Our most skilled players are old and slow now. Our young athletic players lack the skill of the last generation and rely too much on natural ability, which the better teams have shown they can handle.
I haven't seen anything that concerned me with regards to "want" or "focus" like some analysts and much of the broader public are portraying. The reality is they're just not anywhere near a super team like they were in the past and at this point, given that and the road to get there, they're probably a longshot to win it. But I'm not worried about the other fluff I've seen around where they're being portrayed as Schrodinger's soccer team, simultaneously caring too little to play better and caring too much by celebrating too hard.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
There is also a chance that they are every bit as good as past teams but that many other countries are catching up. The US (and Sweden) had massive head starts in women's soccer as we know.
This is also not just a one time thing. The most recent Summer Olympics was not great for the US. They only got 4 points in the group, including a 3-0 thumping from Sweden.
They did advanced from the quarter finals but on pk's and then lost to Canada in the semi finals.
The Z Machine
Footballguy
And we can all celebrate Canada getting bounced early in this tournament, just like we should celebrate the male Canucks getting beat like a rented mule in Qatar.
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
Rapinoe has a habit of scoring big time goals in important knockout games that she otherwise plays like *** in.
You can practically say the same about any team right now. Look at the teams that qualified:
Nearly half the remaining field has barely managed a goal per game or less.
You do need to take into account they were in of course - the US was in a pretty strong group with three teams only allowing a single goal in three games.
From what I've seen the US has been very good in defense, and they've created a lot of decent goal scoring opportunities. Morgan has been very good (missed pk not withstanding), but the surrounding cast has been less than ideal.
Now you're in a knockout game without one of your best players and against a very strong looking Sweden side (I haven't watched one of their games so I'm not going to pretend to be familiar with them, but in looking at the stats they have trounced each of their opponents so their standing is no fluke). Less than ideal for the U.S.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
There is some new ground that will need to be broken based on historical records. The US has never won either a World Cup or an Olympics gold when they have not also won the group stage of each tournament.
Orange&Blue
Footballguy
Equal pay explainer: How much money USWNT can win at Women's World Cup
The USWNT's equal pay fight has been at the forefront of previous World Cups. Where do things stand and how much can the team earn if they win again?
more popular sports/etc get more money. that's why NHL players don't get paid as much as NBA/MLB/etc.
I'm getting rather tired of hearing them always complain about it.
If this was a regular job, then hell yes equal pay must be a thing. sports are not that.
El Floppo
Footballguy
I got the sense people were whoa is me-ing the current diffdicult path the US has to take to win.
My point was..The US took a very similar path last time, beating the other best teams in the world along the way to lifting the trophy.
And the US has still looked like a quality talented team despite their results so far. If some of those goals go in, were having a different conversation now about how dominant they are.
My point was..The US took a very similar path last time, beating the other best teams in the world along the way to lifting the trophy.
And the US has still looked like a quality talented team despite their results so far. If some of those goals go in, were having a different conversation now about how dominant they are.
The Z Machine
Footballguy
We will see. They are not confidence inspiring at the moment.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
ESPN says kickoff is Sunday morning at 4:00 a.m. Lambeau Standard Time. Does anyone know - is this another one of the fake kickoff times and its really an hour later? I might try to watch this one live depending on how much fun I have Saturday night.
Nick Vermeil
Footballguy
I will be recording and watching with coffee at 8 eastern as if live. Need my beauty sleep.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
This game is awesome so far. Unfortunately I’m fading and probably won’t make the second half.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
lmao this is crazy clown soccer but it’s fun
Snoopy
Footballguy
World Cup soccer games are a rarity as they actually start the exact time as advertised.
Snoopy
Footballguy
The other post cited ESPN as the score. For games they don't carry, they give the starting time down to the minute. For games they carry, the given start time is actually the beginning of the pregame show.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
yeah that's how my wife ended up getting up an hour early to watch Korea the other day lol
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unpopular opinion - the Japanese road kits are awful
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
still one of the best fan traditions in sports
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
The scary thing about Spain is that the reigning back to back Ballon d'Or winner has had very little effect so far due to still recovering from her acl injury. It probably won't happen in time but if she ever can refind her top form in this tournament, Spain are going to get a massive boost
El Floppo
Footballguy
sam kerr for aussie too.
The Z Machine
Footballguy
Has anyone watched this Japan team? Do they have any world class talent or are they playing an excellent team game?
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
Ada Hegerberg was also a Balloon winner who wasn't healthy enough for Norway - missed two games in the group stages and only played 15 minutes in their group stage loss yesterday.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
I have not watched other than highlights. But I read an interesting article today that said teams keep trying different defensive tactics against them but so far nothing has come close to working.
Capella
Footballguy
Yea the Netherlands are playing at 10 est tonight lmfao. That was 100% supposed to be the US.
Capella
Footballguy
Done this the whole tourney. Just watch when I wake up. Stay off Twitter and this thread and it’s easy. Enjoyable to fast forward through halftime too.
The Z Machine
Footballguy
You guys with your fancy DVRs...
3C's
Footballguy
FS1 has been replaying games.
Guessing these are EST:
10:30 am 2023 FIFA Women's World Cup - Sweden vs. United States Repeat FS1
01:30 pm 2023 FIFA Women's World Cup - Sweden vs. United States Repeat FS2
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El Floppo
Footballguy
thanks- I'll be away from home for 2 weeks, and won't have FS1 where we're going.
any idea whether the fox sports app runs these? it must.
(eta- I don't think I have the fox sports app
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3C's
Footballguy
Added some times. Can you log into your provider remotely? Another great thing about YTTV, I can take it with me wherever I go.thanks- I'll be away from home for 2 weeks, and won't have FS1 where we're going.
any idea whether the fox sports app runs these? it must.
(eta- I don't think I have the fox sports app
rockaction
Footballguy
COYUSWMNT?
Are they coy, though?
Are they coy, though?
General Malaise
Footballguy
Do I stay up until 2am or set an alarm to watch this? 20 years ago this wasn't even a dilemma....getting old is neat.
The Kansas Comet
Footballguy
Ouch.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
As long as you have Fox at home, just go to this site:thanks- I'll be away from home for 2 weeks, and won't have FS1 where we're going.
any idea whether the fox sports app runs these? it must.
(eta- I don't think I have the fox sports app
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