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***Official*** Washington Redskins 2014 Thread (In-Season) (1 Viewer)

TxBuckeye said:
How many blow out losses before they determine Haslett IS the problem and get rid of him? I'm still befuddled as to how he kept his job after last season.
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So am I. I think he has pictures of Bruce Allen doing embarrasing things; that's the best explanation I can come up with.

The defense is going to need a half season of good performances to convince me Haslett's any good. And I don't mean "games in which the defense did some things well" --- you can give up 42 points in games like that. I mean games where as a whole the defense is good and contributes to a win.

 
I think Paul will play tomorrow night and Reed won't, by the way. Reed didn't practice Saturday and still has not run full speed since his last injury.

Watch Logan Paulsen get 2 TD's, with a stat line line 2/2/2

 
PinkydaPimp said:
lol. i am excited to see how we bounce back. just hoping we play them tough and dont get destroyed.
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It's sad that the game is 5 hours away and there's been no posts about the game today.

I just think we all know what is going to happen tonight and just don't want to have to think about it. It's almost like when you were in elementary school and had to bring home a bad report card. You knew when you got home, it was going to bad, you just weren't sure how bad. That's how I feel about tonight.

 
MattFancy said:
PinkydaPimp said:
lol. i am excited to see how we bounce back. just hoping we play them tough and dont get destroyed.
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It's sad that the game is 5 hours away and there's been no posts about the game today.

I just think we all know what is going to happen tonight and just don't want to have to think about it. It's almost like when you were in elementary school and had to bring home a bad report card. You knew when you got home, it was going to bad, you just weren't sure how bad. That's how I feel about tonight.
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Then let's get out our pens, and start changing those Ds to Bs and those Fs to As! If we do it just right no one will notice!

 
MattFancy said:
PinkydaPimp said:
lol. i am excited to see how we bounce back. just hoping we play them tough and dont get destroyed.
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It's sad that the game is 5 hours away and there's been no posts about the game today.
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As a Seahawk fan in the DC area I'll get it started. :) While I can't say I'll be rooting for the Skins to win, I do follow the team since I'm local and normally try to root for them if they aren't playing the Seahawks.

That being said, I hope Cousins has a bounce back game and plays solid. If he stinks it up again I'm afraid the organization will rush RG3 back too soon again which could likely be the end of him. If Kirk can start to play consistently and the Skins can play around .500 ball, I'd hope they'd bring back Robert when he was ready... not when they needed him. It'd be a shame to see that much potential fizzle.

Good luck tonight... and Go Hawks! :)

 
MattFancy said:
PinkydaPimp said:
lol. i am excited to see how we bounce back. just hoping we play them tough and dont get destroyed.
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It's sad that the game is 5 hours away and there's been no posts about the game today.

I just think we all know what is going to happen tonight and just don't want to have to think about it. It's almost like when you were in elementary school and had to bring home a bad report card. You knew when you got home, it was going to bad, you just weren't sure how bad. That's how I feel about tonight.
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It's true. And yet, I will be watching, and I will probably watch the whole game, even if it gets out of hand.

Beer.

 
CapnJB said:
MattFancy said:
PinkydaPimp said:
lol. i am excited to see how we bounce back. just hoping we play them tough and dont get destroyed.
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It's sad that the game is 5 hours away and there's been no posts about the game today.
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As a Seahawk fan in the DC area I'll get it started. :) While I can't say I'll be rooting for the Skins to win, I do follow the team since I'm local and normally try to root for them if they aren't playing the Seahawks.

That being said, I hope Cousins has a bounce back game and plays solid. If he stinks it up again I'm afraid the organization will rush RG3 back too soon again which could likely be the end of him. If Kirk can start to play consistently and the Skins can play around .500 ball, I'd hope they'd bring back Robert when he was ready... not when they needed him. It'd be a shame to see that much potential fizzle.

Good luck tonight... and Go Hawks! :)
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Then again, the worse the record is, the less need to rush him back. I don't think they'll rush him under any scenario.

 
Redskins @ home on prime time game? I think that recipe has equaled utter disaster the last couple of years. That being said, in all the years I've been following the NFL, most teams that get utterly embarrassed the previous week tend to bounce back with a good to decent showing the next. I wouldn't be surprised to see Cousins play better and the Skins to compete for a while.

 
I am a realist and we will lose tonight.

I just want to see the O put up a better show and game plan better than they did against the Giants.

The D is a lost cause with Haznot at the helm so expectations are zero

 
maybe we should be cheering for another embarrassing performance from the D to force the firing of Haslett?

 
MikeApf said:
It's true. And yet, I will be watching, and I will probably watch the whole game, even if it gets out of hand.

Beer.
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I'd like to make it thru the second quarter, meaning there's a reason to watch. I'm not hopeful.

 
ImTheScientist said:
You all are toast again.... good luck tonight....you'll need it.
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How about the Skins win and you never post here again? HUNDREDS, if not THOUSANDS of posters would thank you.

 
Archer said:
ImTheScientist said:
You all are toast again.... good luck tonight....you'll need it.
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How about the Skins win and you never post here again? HUNDREDS, if not THOUSANDS of posters would thank you.
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This post is hidden because you have chosen to ignore posts by ImTheScientist. View it anyway?

Did that a LONG time ago.

 
I root against the Seahawks every Sunday, unless I have money on them.

Outside of the Cowboys, Eagles and Giants, there's no Team I can't stand more.

In the Snyder era, every time - Every. F'ing. Time. - we find ourselves in the post-season, it's Seattle that sends us home. That last time was the worst. We finally had them on our turf, we had a 2 TD lead, momentum, and were going for the kill shot, when...(I can't go there again. I'll go to my grave blaming that on cheapo Dan and the field conditions that day, which were completely under his control)...

...and then there was that BS win over the Packers with the faux refs. Given the situation, and how obvious of a blown call that was, Wilson and Tate had no business being so smarmy and smug in their post-game interviews, and if you want to blame it on the 'youth factor', then Carroll or someone administrative should have been chaperoning them, and had them put a sock in it.

I like the sentiment someone posted the other day, Sebowski, I think it was, something to the effect of 9 times out of 10, but we only have to play 'em once.

I long for the good old days, when those losses would be etched in the brain of the entire organization, and whatever the era of the Team that took the field, they'd be sufficiently amped to play hard enough to take a few ears, if not a surprise 'W'.

If we can't put a beating on these guys on the scoreboard, I hope somebody in burgundy and gold leaves the field with a pocketful of teeth, any eye, or some sort of momento.

There's sufficient cause to want blood, and I want it.

...and that's why, despite me being in my mid-40's - and being the primary Owner of the tickets that have been in our family since close to 1937 - that I'm not allowed to go to the games any more, until the Redskins' fortunes change. Call me what you will, but even sans alcohol, I can't maintain my self control in that atmosphere, which is already disfunctional on the part of our own fans, much less a bunch of yahoos making a spectacle of themselves rooting for the opponent. I just have to say something, and invariably that escalates, and although I've never had anyone take me up on the offer, sooner or later, that dog's gonna hunt, and now I have a fiancee and stepson to think about.

Ugh, rant over. I really don't like the Seahawks and I hope we whip their asses.

:football:

 
On the plus side, maybe the Redskins are watching this and thinking, "Maybe we don't have to remove the zone read from the play book and maybe we don't have to make RG3 a pocket passer."

 
dgreen said:
On the plus side, maybe the Redskins are watching this and thinking, "Maybe we don't have to remove the zone read from the play book and maybe we don't have to make RG3 a pocket passer."
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Bingo. Watching that game, I was thinking: you know, if Griffin played just the same exact game Wilson did tonight, the entire Internet would explode in commentary about how he'll never last. And yet, Wilson does it...and has won a Super Bowl doing it.

If Griffin is able to come back, and if they want to play him, they may have to let him run, I agree.

 
Well, this is about as good as I've felt at the end of a loss. Sure the Redskins are still not a great team and still have a lot to work on. However, they really came out and showed a lot of heart after that debacle vs. NYGiants. I respect the team a lot for their effort tonight and hope those guys keep their heads up after this loss.

 
MikeApf said:
dgreen said:
On the plus side, maybe the Redskins are watching this and thinking, "Maybe we don't have to remove the zone read from the play book and maybe we don't have to make RG3 a pocket passer."
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Bingo. Watching that game, I was thinking: you know, if Griffin played just the same exact game Wilson did tonight, the entire Internet would explode in commentary about how he'll never last. And yet, Wilson does it...and has won a Super Bowl doing it.

If Griffin is able to come back, and if they want to play him, they may have to let him run, I agree.
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Yeah, I think Griffin could do a lot of what Wilson does - but IMO a big difference is that Wilson is way better about protecting himself. Wilson seemed to take more hits than usual tonight but it would have been just an average game for Griffin in terms of hits taken. Griffin seems to take a lot of unnecessary pounding and IMO a lot of it is on him due to lacking awareness and not sliding/getting out of bounds - I actually think the Shanahans (sorry to bring them up again) took too much heat when a lot of it was on Griffin.

A big part of the problem that has already been mentioned in here before, it seems like Gruden wants to put Griffin into his system instead of making his system fit Griffin. Guess it's moot for a few more weeks at least.

 
I applaud the Redskins for their efforts,

Thought Cousins showed great character to bounce back from the Giants nightmare..

Still need HASLETT GONE.

 
Better than I thought it would be. Cousins started off slow and got going after his deep passes to DJax. Played well after such a disaster against the Giants. Defense was alright, but as usual when we needed them to make a stop in the 4th quarter, they couldn't do it.

Short week and a west coast trip to play Arizona. Not sure what to expect next week.

 
Take away the poor performance in the first 25 minutes of the game and I'm happy with the game. The 1st 25 minutes though was typical Redskins and plain ol awful...

 
One thing is becoming clear: RGIII will get another chance to start with this team.

Cousins settled down and did better than he did last week, but he was very hot and cold. Made some great throws, missed some easy ones. As Gruden said in press conference: "Made a lot of hard throws look easy and made a lot of easy throws look hard." I think he's got a very accurate arm but sometimes under pressure he rushes it.

He is definitely a very capable backup and I hope they find a way to keep him on the team. But, as he's not "special" I'm now thinking it's only a matter of time before RGIII is reinserted in the lineup.

 
In some ways, I was more impressed with Cousins last night than against Jax or Philly. For the most part, he was just hitting wide open guys in those two games. Last night, the best plays were Cousins avoiding pressure to make a play or just really good throws given the coverage. His bomb to DJax down the left side (not the TD) was a perfect pass away from two defenders. He also made that really good throw that he just softly put it over the DBs reach to an open Jackson. He also did a great job reading the blitz and quickly dumping the ball to Helu on the last TD drive. I still thought there were times where he was deciding too quickly to throw to a shorter route rather than waiting for a deeper route, but overall I think he was pretty good. He fought through some crappy play and the team's inability to run and gave them a chance against a really good D. And no turnovers was good, obviously. In fact, I don't think he had any passes that were even close to being picked.

 
You know how your team has been bad a long time? When you spend all your time talking about moral victories during another losing season. Getting kind of tired of it personally.

 
dgreen said:
In some ways, I was more impressed with Cousins last night than against Jax or Philly. For the most part, he was just hitting wide open guys in those two games. Last night, the best plays were Cousins avoiding pressure to make a play or just really good throws given the coverage. His bomb to DJax down the left side (not the TD) was a perfect pass away from two defenders. He also made that really good throw that he just softly put it over the DBs reach to an open Jackson. He also did a great job reading the blitz and quickly dumping the ball to Helu on the last TD drive. I still thought there were times where he was deciding too quickly to throw to a shorter route rather than waiting for a deeper route, but overall I think he was pretty good. He fought through some crappy play and the team's inability to run and gave them a chance against a really good D. And no turnovers was good, obviously. In fact, I don't think he had any passes that were even close to being picked.
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I think when it was 17-10 between the end of the 3rd and beginning of the 4th, Skins forced a punt and they had a chance to tie the game. They went 3 and out and I believe on the 3rd down pass it was a really off one to Desean that was almost picked by the LB. I'll have to check the replay though. But overall he didn't try to play hero ball and get big chunks all at once like he did vs the Giants.

 
TxBuckeye said:
You know how your team has been bad a long time? When you spend all your time talking about moral victories during another losing season. Getting kind of tired of it personally.
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At least we can talk about potential 1st round draft picks again! I'm looking at Cedric Ogbuehi

Cedric Ogbuehi
 
ha. i pasted it like 3 times and couldn't see it! I can never spell that last name. I will now call him Big Ced.

 
TxBuckeye said:
You know how your team has been bad a long time? When you spend all your time talking about moral victories during another losing season. Getting kind of tired of it personally.
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Same here.

Did you know that, since the loss to the Seahawks in the playoffs (the one where Griffin got hurt twice), the Redskins have the worst record in the league?

27-17 doesn't sound so bad if you ignore 2/3 of the game and if you forget that Seattle lost 2 TD's to their own penalties. Without those penalties it's a 41-17 game, which more accurately would have reflected the team performances to me.

What the hell is Perry Riley doing on defense? What the hell is Biggers doing on defense? They look utterly lost. And when Seattle spreads things out and the Redskins go to 4 down linemen, why do they all rush the passer and let Wilson get past them almost every time?

As my one granddaughter used to say when she was very young, it's shigusting.

 
Players who seemed to have a decent or good game on Sunday: K. Robinson, D. Jackson, Cousins, maybe Kearse and Kerrigan.

Our offensive line is just a memory of 2 years ago.

 
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Anyone else depressed that the Dallas ####### Cowboys are building the right way, and actually winning games?

They've put together a young studly OL and they run behind it 30-40 times a game.

Now, pretty much every other part of their roster is a dumpster fire outside their receiving corps. But they got the OL right after having one of the worst, old OL units in the league 2-3 years ago.

Time for us to commit like that. Re-sign Trent. Then go OT in the top-10 (likely), OG or OC in the 2nd, a TE who can block in the mid-rounds maybe, then defense the rest of the way. Pick up a return specialist late if you're feeling crazy (and it's clear Gruden highly values being able to flip the field, so this will probably happen).

 
ConnSKINS26 said:
Anyone else depressed that the Dallas ####### Cowboys are building the right way, and actually winning games?

They've put together a young studly OL and they run behind it 30-40 times a game.

Now, pretty much every other part of their roster is a dumpster fire outside their receiving corps. But they got the OL right after having one of the worst, old OL units in the league 2-3 years ago.

Time for us to commit like that. Re-sign Trent. Then go OT in the top-10 (likely), OG or OC in the 2nd, a TE who can block in the mid-rounds maybe, then defense the rest of the way. Pick up a return specialist late if you're feeling crazy (and it's clear Gruden highly values being able to flip the field, so this will probably happen).
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agree 100%. The Skins skill position players are locked up for a bit. They need to get that OL fixed. Hopefully Long can be the long time answer at one OG. Use the 1st and 2nd on stud OL. Return specialists can be found a lot of places. I'd prefer quality depth/youth on the DL and LBs. That'll improve the special teams too. Of course they need to find some answers at safety as well.

 
Jackson Jeffcoat promoted from practice squad. Richard Crawford and Akeem Davis released.

I assume Jeffcoat's on the roster due to Orakpo's third injury --- a finger in the Houston game, a finger on the other hand in a later game, and now an ankle. This guy's getting like Jon Jansen or the Black Knight.

How bad do you have to be to get cut as a Redskins DB?

 
ConnSKINS26 said:
Anyone else depressed that the Dallas ####### Cowboys are building the right way, and actually winning games?

They've put together a young studly OL and they run behind it 30-40 times a game.

Now, pretty much every other part of their roster is a dumpster fire outside their receiving corps. But they got the OL right after having one of the worst, old OL units in the league 2-3 years ago.

Time for us to commit like that. Re-sign Trent. Then go OT in the top-10 (likely), OG or OC in the 2nd, a TE who can block in the mid-rounds maybe, then defense the rest of the way. Pick up a return specialist late if you're feeling crazy (and it's clear Gruden highly values being able to flip the field, so this will probably happen).
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Dallas OL is impressive to be sure, and they have skill positions in Murray, Bryant and Romo -- poor man's tripplets maybe but they are getting the job done.

Dallas' challenge is that they have to win NOW because Romo is not getting any younger and only has so many years left. And, they don't have his replacement on their roster. If they weren't in the same division, they'd actually be a good trading partner for whoever loses the Griffin-Cousins battle.

So I think Dallas has done a great job building up their line but they are going to have to try to win it all in the next year or two or they are likely going to have to step back while finding the future replacement for Romo...

 
Good news is that RAK is playing so bad there will be no debate about retaining him next year. That money will be used more productively to fill other voids. As for OL, I think we have to pick one at the top of the first or else we'll pick the wrong guy. It seems the only way we choose the right guy is when its the odds on favorite, other than that...we miss on the talents evaluation for OL.

 
fatness said:
Players who seemed to have a decent or good game on Sunday: K. Robinson, D. Jackson, Cousins, maybe Kearse and Kerrigan.

Our offensive line is just a memory of 2 years ago.
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Kearse played out of this world for a no-name player that barely made the roster. I love this kid's hustle and if we could bottle that up, give it to the others on the team...then we would be better off for it.

 
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