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**Official Watchmen HBO Series** (1 Viewer)

Someone with more background knowledge help me out here...

So Ozymandias during the last episode is shown manually creating small squid storms to keep up the charade.  This was 10 years in the past and since the chat between him and the Smurf, he’s been on Europa. We know the squid attacks continued because the first episode has a rain parade on Sister Knights ride home from career day at school. 
 

So... who’s been doing these in the last 10 years?

 
bigmarc27 said:
Someone with more background knowledge help me out here...

So Ozymandias during the last episode is shown manually creating small squid storms to keep up the charade.  This was 10 years in the past and since the chat between him and the Smurf, he’s been on Europa. We know the squid attacks continued because the first episode has a rain parade on Sister Knights ride home from career day at school. 
 

So... who’s been doing these in the last 10 years?
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Lady Trieu bought his company and all his assets (I wanna say someone specifically said she also bought his Antarctic mansion where he was conducting his activities) so I am assuming she has someone carrying on. Either that or someone within the government is keeping up the charade since apparently it’s not so secret that even junior Senators are let in on the secret.

Still a lot they haven’t explained with Lady Trieu so the next season could focus there, her origin or what her millennium clock really does for example (brainwash everyone with the Mesmer tech that HJ gave her?) Fallout from however this season is resolved could be the focus of the next season as well.

 
This is the best writeup of the show I've seen, captures my feelings perfectly:

It Is Crazy That ‘Watchmen’ Works As Well As It Does

Sampling:
 

The thing about Watchmen is that it probably shouldn’t work at all, let alone work this well. It is so many things and all of them are happening so quickly. It’s a show based on a comic but it’s barely tied to the comic and is set decades after the comic ended. It plays fast and loose with a beloved text. It takes on the history of race in America as directly as any show on television and also featured an on-screen fart that lasted so long it required two separate captions, “farting loudly” and “fart squeaks.” It hops around through time with very little interest in telling you exactly where or when it is. Jeremy Irons is out in a picturesque space prison fishing babies out of a lake and growing them into servants, some of whom he roasts in a chamber as part of a stage play he puts on for himself and some of whom he launches into the cosmos with a giant catapult. That’s a lot. It’s just objectively a lot for a show that has only been on for eight episodes so far.

It’s also not everything. Not even close. There’s also a mysterious science lady who is building a big clock and just had a drugged-up Regina King strapped to an IV that was hooked up to an elephant hidden inside a locked room. There’s what can’t be described as anything less than a beautiful love story between an orphaned cop and a glowing blue god who tricked the world into thinking he lives on Mars. A mysterious man in a wheelchair was later discovered to be a) the grandfather of Regina King’s character; b) the secret identity of Hooded Justice, a legendary masked vigilante who everyone assumed was white; c) a person who convinced the town’s police chief to hang himself using a blinking mind control flashlight. At one point, a man was fleeing King’s character and squirted his body down in some sort of lubricant at a full sprint and then slid feet-first into a sewer grate. Everyone who watches the show started calling him Lube Man and we haven’t seen him for one single second since that happened.

Read back through those two paragraphs once or twice. Let all of it sink in. And then ask yourself how, exactly, a show that is doing that many things at once is also managing to be one of the best shows of the year. It is that, to be clear. Watchmen is one of the best shows of 2019. It is so good. It is almost unreasonably good, given the circumstances. None of it makes any sense.
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Finale was solid, albeit a bit predictable.  Someone on Twitter pointed out the blue hue of Angela in the Watchmen poster.  Definitely a show that should be re-watched for all the foreshadowing  you miss the first time around.

 
A little disappointed in the last episode. But, not unlike any book I have read that is awesome until the end and then falls flat. Endings are tough to nail and they needed to leave it open in case they want a season 2. Overall, really enjoyed the ride.

 
Maurile Tremblay said:
Okay, I'm about five minutes into it and I had to pause to google "1921 Tulsa" and ... this seems like a big deal that I'd never heard of. Huh. I thought I was decent at American history.
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There's a movement afoot today to try and find the mass graves from this event (if there are any, as suspected).

Google the Memphis and New Orleans riots right after the Civil War too.  They helped lead to the 14th and 15th Amendments (uhh, I think it's those two).

 
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Walking Boot said:
Don't see how they do a second season 
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My favorite thing about this is how it was a stand-alone piece of awesome.  They told a coherent, amazing story in ~9 hours.  That is good enough for me. 

 
Slapdash said:
My favorite thing about this is how it was a stand-alone piece of awesome.  They told a coherent, amazing story in ~9 hours.  That is good enough for me. 
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Yes.

My wife really liked this show.  She never read watchmen and only barely remembered the movie.  That reinforced to me how good it is.  

 
I went into this with some trepidation.  I was a Watchman fanboy who waited every month to buy the comic books at the fabled San Francisco Comic Book Company run by Gary Arlington.  I didn't think Lindelof could pull it off. 

Happy to say I was mistaken.  The program extended the boundaries while remaining relatively true to Moore's universe. It was more socially relevant than the original.  While it lacked the meta[physical depth of Moore it was more entertaining than the comic which to be honest lagged a bit in the middle.

 
I didn't understand the whole statue part. Was he in the statue the whole season? It didn't seem to be the case unless he was brought back before the events of the season happened and "unfrozen" at the end?

 
shadyridr said:
I didn't understand the whole statue part. Was he in the statue the whole season? It didn't seem to be the case unless he was brought back before the events of the season happened and "unfrozen" at the end?
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Yes. He was picked up in 2017 I think. 
 

How did Angela afford all those weapons, extra car, secret compartments, hidden lair etc?

 
Haven't had time to post or read this thread much lately. The finale was great, but not quite as good as the 2 or 3 episodes leading up to it. But overall, Lindelof really nailed this. As a guy who watched Lost all the way through and went from loving the show to honestly hating the last couple seasons, and then loving moments of the Leftovers but being a bit underwhelmed by it as a whole, I was afraid of what would happen with this. The comic is one of my favorite pieces of literature ever and the movie, while a bit too glossy and impersonal, was also something I loved. This show was excellent and I will be rewatching it at some point.

Sepinwall's finale recap

Sepinwall's interview with Lindelof

The interview really wraps things up. If this series continues,  it seems like Lindelof won't be involved. 

 
Do we know how Lady Trieu knew about what the 7th Cavalry was going to do with Dr. Manhattan. 

I miss the little things sometimes

 
Walking Boot said:
The only thing I'm not clear on is how Lady Trieu can get a spaceship to land exactly outside Jeremy Irons' cell on Europa, a billion miles away, but then can't have it land somewhere she already owns when it comes back. Instead she had to hurriedly clone a baby and negotiate the sale of the farm to get his ship back.
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Is that what that was? I'm so lost lol

 
Is there backstory on the homosexuality in the comic?  I'm sure I'm missing something, but it seemed forced, other than perhaps the masks referencing hiding who they really are?

 
Tiger Fan said:
Is there backstory on the homosexuality in the comic?  I'm sure I'm missing something, but it seemed forced, other than perhaps the masks referencing hiding who they really are?
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Original Minutemen members Captain Metropolis and The Silhouette were gay in the comic.  They were both relatively minor characters who were dead long before the comic took place.

 
Eephus said:
Original Minutemen members Captain Metropolis and The Silhouette were gay in the comic.  They were both relatively minor characters who were dead long before the comic took place.
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thx.  so nothing of note for the HBO series I guess?  Seemed to make it a point of looking glass watching the gay porn.  perhaps that was just something thrown in to explain his failed marriage.

 
Just here to rave about the show. Really enjoyed it as a 30 something who read the graphic novel, appreciates it's place in comic book history, but found it didn't love up to the hype for me.

 
Hi I'm new here.  3 episodes in and this is amazing.  However now I want more backstory.  Should I just watch the movie or get the comic?

 
shuke said:
Hi I'm new here.  3 episodes in and this is amazing.  However now I want more backstory.  Should I just watch the movie or get the comic?
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I think after episode 3 is when I bought the comic. Finished in 3 days. You don’t need it but it certainly adds to it. I’d hit pause on the series and read that first — I went back and rewatched the prior episodes after reading that. 

 
Capella said:
I think after episode 3 is when I bought the comic. Finished in 3 days. You don’t need it but it certainly adds to it. I’d hit pause on the series and read that first — I went back and rewatched the prior episodes after reading that. 
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Will probably watch the movie. You know, because, like, I'm am grown man that doesn't read comic books.

 
OrtonToOlsen said:
shuke said:
Hi I'm new here.  3 episodes in and this is amazing.  However now I want more backstory.  Should I just watch the movie or get the comic?
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Watch the movie. Ignore Capella, it’s pretty good.  Kelly Leak is amazing in it.
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Snyder's movie is alright but it's not great prep if you're watching it specifically to understand the backstory of the the HBO series.  It's like the time the Beaver did his book report on The Three Musketeers based on a movie musical he saw on TV.

Ignoring Capella is pretty good though.

 
shuke said:
Hi I'm new here.  3 episodes in and this is amazing.  However now I want more backstory.  Should I just watch the movie or get the comic?
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I had zero backstory and was able to follow fine. I think they end up explaining everything in the show pretty well with limited need to fill in backstory on your own.

 
is hbo the only way to watch this i do not have that so i am just wondering thanks brohans take that to the bank

 
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