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***** Official Westworld Thread ***** (2 Viewers)
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Footballguy
#### it, I'm just going to start doing my own timeline in this thread.
Koya
Footballguy
shadyridr
Footballguy
jamny
Footballguy
The boy was Ford as a child from the first gen of his family that he had hidden away. That's where we learned Bernard was a bot. "what door?"
jamny
Footballguy
I don't know. It seems to be before she woke, still robotic. I think it's a flashback to Dolores and Arthur. Plus, she's wearing the rancher's daughter dress. Not saying she couldn't have gone back to wearing it to try and fool Bernard but she's not being very subtle at this point.Waingro said:
Waingro
Footballguy
Yea, certainly possible. The dress is confusing to me as well. Something that we learned from last season though is that we cannot take some scenes at face value. This seems to be one of them.
Here's the scene.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHr3M-1hOsA
jamny
Footballguy
Finished a second viewing.
A couple of things learned:
It was a human Ford that was shot last season. Doesn't mean there isn't still a bot Ford somewhere.
WW is on an island off of China.
The Bernard found on the beach never had a shaky hand. They made a point of showing it multiple times. They even went to the flashback from the beach to the barn with him looking at his hand. Remembering? How does he wind up on the beach two weeks after being underground? Maybe there are 2 Bernards as someone mentioned earlier (I didn't look at the reddit theories about it) How does Bernard pass both DNA tests, the handle and the droid?
Abernathy must have made it to Delos since Charlotte said they wouldn't send help without it.
A few other interesting things.
Simon (from Walking Dead) was shot while yelling "Shoot a woman? Over my dead body" Meanwhile he was shown shooting the woman outside the barn.
Do all scalps have a maze underneath?
The bodies around the Indian they scalped and took the "brain" out of had arrows in them. Why was he killing other hosts? Is that why Dolores killed him?
Why didn't they continue on to the outpost Bernard was taking them to? It seems like the hot blond found it, telling Dolores and Teddy. I do think it was Teddy floating at the end.
MiB now looking for a door. I'm sure it's not an actual door but probably a host. Dolores?
Glad to have the show back!
A couple of things learned:
It was a human Ford that was shot last season. Doesn't mean there isn't still a bot Ford somewhere.
WW is on an island off of China.
The Bernard found on the beach never had a shaky hand. They made a point of showing it multiple times. They even went to the flashback from the beach to the barn with him looking at his hand. Remembering? How does he wind up on the beach two weeks after being underground? Maybe there are 2 Bernards as someone mentioned earlier (I didn't look at the reddit theories about it) How does Bernard pass both DNA tests, the handle and the droid?
Abernathy must have made it to Delos since Charlotte said they wouldn't send help without it.
A few other interesting things.
Simon (from Walking Dead) was shot while yelling "Shoot a woman? Over my dead body" Meanwhile he was shown shooting the woman outside the barn.
Do all scalps have a maze underneath?
The bodies around the Indian they scalped and took the "brain" out of had arrows in them. Why was he killing other hosts? Is that why Dolores killed him?
Why didn't they continue on to the outpost Bernard was taking them to? It seems like the hot blond found it, telling Dolores and Teddy. I do think it was Teddy floating at the end.
MiB now looking for a door. I'm sure it's not an actual door but probably a host. Dolores?
Glad to have the show back!
shadyridr
Footballguy
jamny
Footballguy
So you can put DNA from any human into any bot? It didn't identify who he was, just that he possessed DNA. Doesn't seem very secure although I'm sure Bernard was a top level host.
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shadyridr
Footballguy
I dont know but they are recording DNA from every guest and he injected himself with teh juice. I put two and two together and came up with that theory. Plus the big bossman created him.
JerseyToughGuys
Tough Guy
Good. Too convoluted already.tommyboy said:
Waingro
Footballguy
I would assume that they don't since this seemed to be a surprise to management.
Good catch. Another thing to note regarding the Ghost Nation is: the last time we saw them, they had ambushed Stubbs. 11 days later, Stubbs is fine. We don't know how he escaped GN but it might be related to your questions here.
I hope we see more of Steven Ogg this season, I like this guy as an actor.
jamny
Footballguy
Good point. We haven't seen how Stubbs survived GN. I still think Elsie is still alive and orchestrated his capture to plan a counter attack.
jamny
Footballguy
So that leads you to ask why some would and others don't. I think we only saw it once last season. How did MiB know it was there? He took it with him. If he had seen it before there would be no reason to keep scalping for it. They might be only specific original Arnold models with a deeper meaning.
Maik Jeaunz
Footballguy
This might help... there are 3 Bernards. One is Bernard, one is Arnold, and one is the smoke monster.
culdeus
Footballguy
Well she ends up in shogun world next episode. So her goals seem misaligned with her actions.
Gustavo!Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
I still don’t get how people in West world corporate didn’t recognize Arnold/Bernard.
tommyboy
Footballguy
Waingro
Footballguy
Sounds valuable. And the DNA that they are collecting could be useful as well for you know, cloning world leaders and such.All kinds of timelines, and some clarity
i assume there is a database of guest interactions with hosts to be used for real-life blackmail.
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packersfan
Footballguy
How visible was he? We haven't been shown that. Ford was the prominent figure out in front of all this. Arnold seemed to be the silent partner working in the shadows.
packersfan
Footballguy
Hope this isn't the only time Maeve and Dolores cross paths. Two bots now "free" with entirely different agendas.
jamny
Footballguy
Definitely think that cloning and possibly blackmail is going on and after re-watching the discussion between MiB and Lawrence, I think the MiB might be a host, a clone of William. He fixed himself with a repair kit, just not sure if the kit is for both guests and hosts. But the conversation makes more sense when you think of MiB as a host.Waingro said:
Not a lot of mindblown moments but the episode moved the storylines forward nicely. I liked the Last Supper looking scene and then Dolores resurrects them in God-like fashion.
Oh and...Gus Fring!
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
Anyone else not initially realize that the blonde babe at the Delos demo flashback is the same one running around now with Mulva smoking MFers like it ain't no thang?
urbanhack
Fight The Power!
Just did it and finished last night. I had nightmares and am feeling really weird today.
packersfan
Footballguy
Waingro
Footballguy
tommyboy
Footballguy
No. How could I forget? She was also the welcome wagon/whore that met William initially when he first came to the park in s1.
Elon Musk former wife
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
FWIW that actress is Talulah Riley, twice married to and twice divorced from Elon Musk.
She is smokin, but even billionaires should have learned that one the first time.
culdeus
Footballguy
I've been accused of skimming and picked that up last week. I think they set it up in the "last season on"
Maik Jeaunz
Footballguy
Maybe they do know, but they’re in on it, so they play along.
Like when your friend passes out drunk, and you draw a big penis on his forehead. When he wakes up the next morning, nobody is gonna say anything while you’re all sitting and eating pancakes together.
jamny
Footballguy
Just a guess but maybe the ones that didn't get the reveries update that caused all the problems stayed as they were.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Just watched the first two episodes - I’m kinda meh on it. You really have to turn a blind eye to everything to go along with this. For starters, 100’s of extremely affluent & prominent people are now dead (missing to those in the real world) - there isn’t an army (I mean an actual army with 10’s if not 100’s of thousands soldiers) lighting this place up? Oh, “they don’t know what is happening” bc someone is trying to protect IP, come on!
I mean that’s just for starters. Time looping to me is always used when you’re trying to mind-#### someone bc connecting all the dots is impossible.
I guess I watch bc I’m entertained. I’m personally of a Sky-Net mindset... I think AI, along with robots will be the undoing of the human race - the faster we move technology, the quicker we push the clock.
I mean that’s just for starters. Time looping to me is always used when you’re trying to mind-#### someone bc connecting all the dots is impossible.
I guess I watch bc I’m entertained. I’m personally of a Sky-Net mindset... I think AI, along with robots will be the undoing of the human race - the faster we move technology, the quicker we push the clock.
RUSF18
Footballguy
I find your "for starters" to be highly amusing. That would probably be somewhere around 75th on the list of "turn a blind eye" nitpicks of the show.
