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***Official WIS Sim XIII Draft Thread - The HoVG (2 Viewers)

With this much parody and this many teams still right there in it, no trade talk at all? Should be enough depth on these teams to move a strength to cover a weakness. I have some options at OF especially, possibly catcher or a swap of 3B if you have a guy underpeforming there.

My available players... looking to trade offense for some pitching, either straight up, or giving a pitcher back for an upgrade. Starter or closer. Would also swap an underpeforming pitcher for the same (pretty much my relievers and Don Wilson).

OFs (with Sim league stats):

Player / Hand / PAs / HRs / RBI / SB / Def

Vada Pinson '61 (L) 157 0 14 7 .347 .376 .413 C+/A+

Al Wingo '25 (L) 171 2 10 1 .320 .392 .431 C/B-

Dusty Baker '72 ® 97 3 13 0 .315 .371 .506 B+/A+

Jim Hickman '70 ® 100 75 1 5 0 .293 .400 .400 C/C

SS

Cecil Travis '41 (L) 193 1 25 1 .286 .332 .349 B/D

**** Bartell '32 ® 35 0 2 0 .310 .429 .414 B/A

C (would need PAs in return)

Jack Clements '95 (L) 148 6 28 0 .331 .372 .566 B-/D/C-

Don Slaught '92 ® 103 2 18 0 .378 .408 .500 B-/B-/A

3B (this tandem is way underpeforming but maybe another team has a similar player to swap and hope the change of scenery helps)

Bobby Thomson '51 ® 134 4 15 0 .182 .254 .298 C/A- (KILLIN me)

Matt Williams '95 ® 126 6 25 0 .267 .302 .422 B/A+ (also killing me considering what I expected)

 
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In SIm 1 in anyone wants to play....

Also, I might be able to trade a reliever if anyone needs one.

Now time for a gripe: How in the hell is John Tudor ahead of Babe Adams for the Cy in the AL? Adams leads the league in ERA, IP, Wins and is tied for 2nd in WHIP.

 
As of today:

23 of 24 teams within 9 games of division lead

22 of 24 teams within 6 games of division lead

16 of 24 teams within 3 games of division lead.

And, in the NL:

11 of 12 teams within 4 games of divsion lead.

Every owner is still in it at this point.

 
I'd like to trade Gary Peters for a good RP, if anyone needs some extra innings. Would also consider swapping CF Johnny Lindell for a more offense-oriented corner OF.

 
Stat line of the year so far:

Tim Spoonybarger has a total of 3 IP but has 1 win and 6 saves. I am guessing there are a lot of 1/3 IP saves in there.

 
JFranc - checking out the trade options, havent had time until today so will look later. Also considering some other options out there. Sorry for the delay.

 
Eephus said:
Looks like I need to trade Andre Dawson to the Hall of Lame team before August
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:thumbup:get on it, pops.The good news is you can pick up Alomar, with some nice seasons to work with as only the best 2B of his generation. My guess is you have one season to work with before he is ineligible as well.
 
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Kraft... said:
Are there and unusually low number of HR's being hit this Sim or is it just me?
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98 McGwire in a HR neutral part is nearing the All-Star break with 15 HRs. My 37 Camilli had 27 HRs in real-life (normalizes to 6 HR/100 PAs) is stuck on 5 for the season.My team has 47 triples and 49 homers.
 
Kraft... said:
Are there and unusually low number of HR's being hit this Sim or is it just me?
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Yes, but I think it has to do with the fact that by and large we're badically using pre-Steriod era guys and most of the otehr power hitters were in the HOF while there were a whole bunch of deadballish era pitchers. It also doesn't help that my four "best" offensive guys have been pretty terrible with a combined OPS of 700.
 
Well, things have begun to sort themselves out with some space for those leading the pack. Since my "everyone's in it" post, my team has really struggled. Can't quite finger why, although my bullpen and inconsistent hitting are the likely causes. Hopefully my trade which should go through this evening, will help as Jim Hickman has been a collosal disappointment for me, and maybe Doug Jones can recapture some of his success form past sims and give me a much needed boost in the pen. I lost an entire series recently on one run games. :-/

 
if you make a trade offer, does the other team get an email about it? or do they happen to find it by checking the Trade page on the WIS site?

 
frustrated by the game engine. i've tried every manager setting i can find to avoid things like this, but one of my relief pitchers batted when i was down 7-1 in the late innings.

And, separately, even though i have Double-Switch set to the max of 5 (very aggressive), it substituted in all of my bench batters and left the pitcher's slot up third in the next inning. This led to Reuschel being pinch-hit for by Dwight Gooden*.

* btw, is there a younger player than Gooden in this sim. The 1985 version is only 20 years old.

 
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oso diablo said:
frustrated by the game engine. i've tried every manager setting i can find to avoid things like this, but one of my relief pitchers batted when i was down 7-1 in the late innings. And, separately, even though i have Double-Switch set to the max of 5 (very aggressive), it substituted in all of my bench batters and left the pitcher's slot up third in the next inning. This led to Reuschel being pinch-hit for by Dwight Gooden*.* btw, is there a younger player than Gooden in this sim. The 1985 version is only 20 years old.
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Sparky has gotten better but he still makes some dumb moves. I had a game over the weekend where he rested Gold Glove leading SS Dickie Thon for the bottom of the 9th with a two run lead. His replacement Don Money is D-/D- with a .750 FLD% or something like that. Of course, Murphy's Law fingered Money big time. He booted two grounders in the half inning.
 
3 All stars, no starters though :shrug:

Weird team for me this time. I usually have a mashing offense, these guys don't have the pop I'm used to.(team SLG under .400 at the break)

First rounder Mike Scott, 6-6 at the break :excited:

 
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All-Star Rosters (hope this link works)

The AL lineup is a reasonable approximation of the HOF cutoff line...

C - Torre & Darrell Porter

1B - McGwire & Keith Hernandez

2B - Tony Lazzeri & Cupid Childs

3B - Ron Santo & Jimmy Williams

SS - Tony Fernandez & Dickie Thon

LF - Albert Belle & Babe Herman

CF - Andre Dawson & Paul O'Neill

RF - George Foster & Dwight Evans

The pitching's quite a bit goofier.

 
oso diablo said:
All-Star Rosters (hope this link works)

The AL lineup is a reasonable approximation of the HOF cutoff line...

C - Torre & Darrell Porter

1B - McGwire & Keith Hernandez

2B - Tony Lazzeri & Cupid Childs

3B - Ron Santo & Jimmy Williams

SS - Tony Fernandez & Dickie Thon

LF - Albert Belle & Babe Herman

CF - Andre Dawson & Paul O'Neill

RF - George Foster & Dwight Evans

The pitching's quite a bit goofier.
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It illustrates how much the various Veteran's Committees voted in a a lot of HoVG old timers in the 60s and 70s
 
oso diablo said:
All-Star Rosters (hope this link works)

The AL lineup is a reasonable approximation of the HOF cutoff line...

C - Torre & Darrell Porter

1B - McGwire & Keith Hernandez

2B - Tony Lazzeri & Cupid Childs

3B - Ron Santo & Jimmy Williams

SS - Tony Fernandez & Dickie Thon

LF - Albert Belle & Babe Herman

CF - Andre Dawson & Paul O'Neill

RF - George Foster & Dwight Evans

The pitching's quite a bit goofier.
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With the exception of McDowell who's gets shelled against HOFers, the AL looks like you would expect it (after playing in these enough and knowing the cookies). I think you're probably looking at the NL, but a lot of that is due to the pitchers hitting. Overall has a .819 OPS (he's been my second best hitter) and Tannehill is humming along with a .522 OPS which is high for a pitcher. They're also getting helped by my defense and should probably thank Eric Davis, Jay Bell, and Lew Fonseca.
 
Only one AS here, probably should have had too, except Trosky had a mini slump leading up. Not sure how Fonseca beats him out with a line of .314 .361 .415 with 4 HRs and 37 RBI while Trosky goes .310 .337 .528 with 18 and 73.

Didnt expect many as my best players are 2/3 type platoons. Need to pick up there pace here in the 2nd half though.

 
Sammy3469 said:
With the exception of McDowell who's gets shelled against HOFers, the AL looks like you would expect it (after playing in these enough and knowing the cookies). I think you're probably looking at the NL
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expect from a WIS perspective perhaps, but i was referring to a real-life expectation, and those aren't the next-level guys on my HOF pitching list.
 
oso diablo said:
Eephus said:
It illustrates how much the various Veteran's Committees voted in a a lot of HoVG old timers in the 60s and 70s
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i don't think i understand this comment. certainly agree that's what happened, but not making the connection to the A-S roster
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The majority of All Stars are modern players. As you pointed out, this includes a number of borderline HoF candidates from the past 50 years or so. Comparable players from the 20s and 30s were voted into the Hall by the VC and are therefore ineligible for this sim.
 
Eephus said:
oso diablo said:
Eephus said:
It illustrates how much the various Veteran's Committees voted in a a lot of HoVG old timers in the 60s and 70s
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i don't think i understand this comment. certainly agree that's what happened, but not making the connection to the A-S roster
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The majority of All Stars are modern players. As you pointed out, this includes a number of borderline HoF candidates from the past 50 years or so. Comparable players from the 20s and 30s were voted into the Hall by the VC and are therefore ineligible for this sim.
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:hifive: i get so deep into this stuff sometimes that i forget about eras.
 
Koya said:
Only one AS here, probably should have had too, except Trosky had a mini slump leading up. Not sure how Fonseca beats him out with a line of .314 .361 .415 with 4 HRs and 37 RBI while Trosky goes .310 .337 .528 with 18 and 73.Didnt expect many as my best players are 2/3 type platoons. Need to pick up there pace here in the 2nd half though.
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I'm guessing WIS has a "hit" bias as Fonseca has 111 of those. He's also allowed at least 10 fewer guys to reach base (Fonseca has 8 plus plays and Trosky has two minus plays and that doesn't get into RF)
 
oso diablo said:
Sammy3469 said:
With the exception of McDowell who's gets shelled against HOFers, the AL looks like you would expect it (after playing in these enough and knowing the cookies). I think you're probably looking at the NL
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expect from a WIS perspective perhaps, but i was referring to a real-life expectation, and those aren't the next-level guys on my HOF pitching list.
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As opposed to who from this sim, Blyleven? There aren't a whole lot of even marginal non-HOFer SPs in this sim. The other part of it is that many of the pre-70's guys can go for a whole bunch more innings and that shifts these awards in their favor. There's a whole bunch of 300+IP guys and the 200+IP guys (ie modern guys) just don't have a shot in those circumstances especially because they give up more HR on average.
 
Sammy3469 said:
Koya said:
Only one AS here, probably should have had too, except Trosky had a mini slump leading up. Not sure how Fonseca beats him out with a line of .314 .361 .415 with 4 HRs and 37 RBI while Trosky goes .310 .337 .528 with 18 and 73.Didnt expect many as my best players are 2/3 type platoons. Need to pick up there pace here in the 2nd half though.
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I'm guessing WIS has a "hit" bias as Fonseca has 111 of those. He's also allowed at least 10 fewer guys to reach base (Fonseca has 8 plus plays and Trosky has two minus plays and that doesn't get into RF)
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Possibly, though with 105 hits, not much difference. Defense is an interesting point, although I have to be honest, I'd rather have the worse defense in this case if it meant more than double the RBI's and close to 5x as many HRs. Then again, had Trosk been hitting over .320 as he had been before, he'd have just flat earned it.
 
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