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**Official YANKEES 2009 Thread** (1 Viewer)

I agree. He's not a legit one though...and I do think Lester has the stuff to be one.I don't think that right now there is much of a difference between Lester and Wang. in a couple of years....yes.
I agree. POTENTIALLY, Lester has the stuff to be better than Wang. Is Lester better than Wang right now? I don't think so. I think they are about even.
I doubt you would find one GM in baseball who would take Wang over Lester. It's really not even that close. It's ok to admit he's better. I hate the Red Sox too.
 
I agree. He's not a legit one though...and I do think Lester has the stuff to be one.I don't think that right now there is much of a difference between Lester and Wang. in a couple of years....yes.
I agree. POTENTIALLY, Lester has the stuff to be better than Wang. Is Lester better than Wang right now? I don't think so. I think they are about even.
I doubt you would find one GM in baseball who would take Wang over Lester. It's really not even that close. It's ok to admit he's better. I hate the Red Sox too.
I thought we were talking about this year. Do you really think the difference in their #'s will be that significant? I think they will be real close. Even, even.
 
Darth Cheney said:
Giantseasonticketholder said:
Homer @ RJ said:
Wang = Lester
definitely, definitely not. I would also argue your CC > Beckett contention as well.
That's fine. You'd be wrong, but you can still argue.Why does everyone hate Wang? Is it the lack of K's?
He's not a good fantasy pitcher. Stat geeks love that.
I don't play fantasy baseball.If you don't miss bats, you better have a damn good defense up the middle to help you.

And he has Derek Jeter.

I find arguing with Yankee fans on this stuff to be semi-pointless. I told all of you a few years ago that Cano would eventually struggle because he can't take a walk and won't hit .340 every year (or, ever again). I was blown off and he was barely a AAA-player last year. So, whatever.

Wang is dependent on having a good defense behind him. He doesn't. Sooner rather than later, he will struggle.
I now know there is no sense arguing here. Barely AAA?He is no Rickie Weeks ( :shock: ), but .271 with 14HR's and 72 RBI is still pretty good for a 2B. He had an off year. I think you'll see a nice rebound this year.

 
I now know there is no sense arguing here. Barely AAA?He is no Rickie Weeks ( :thumbup: ), but .271 with 14HR's and 72 RBI is still pretty good for a 2B. He had an off year. I think you'll see a nice rebound this year.
Don't try selective stats with me.For one, try the almost sub-.300 OBP, sport. Below replacement level.
 
Darth Cheney said:
Giantseasonticketholder said:
Homer @ RJ said:
Wang = Lester
definitely, definitely not. I would also argue your CC > Beckett contention as well.
That's fine. You'd be wrong, but you can still argue.Why does everyone hate Wang? Is it the lack of K's?
He's not a good fantasy pitcher. Stat geeks love that.
I don't play fantasy baseball.If you don't miss bats, you better have a damn good defense up the middle to help you.

And he has Derek Jeter.

I find arguing with Yankee fans on this stuff to be semi-pointless. I told all of you a few years ago that Cano would eventually struggle because he can't take a walk and won't hit .340 every year (or, ever again). I was blown off and he was barely a AAA-player last year. So, whatever.

Wang is dependent on having a good defense behind him. He doesn't. Sooner rather than later, he will struggle.
How does that not jibe with what I said about Wang only having one pitch with Lester having a better variety? You are ignoring though that they've added a GG 1B. ...and you hitched your wagon to Weeks' star....not exactly a great ride.EDITED TO ADD: And the same can be said about non fans of the Yankees. There is such animosity towards this team that very rarely do you get an unbiased opinion of them.

 
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I agree. He's not a legit one though...and I do think Lester has the stuff to be one.I don't think that right now there is much of a difference between Lester and Wang. in a couple of years....yes.
I agree. POTENTIALLY, Lester has the stuff to be better than Wang. Is Lester better than Wang right now? I don't think so. I think they are about even.
I doubt you would find one GM in baseball who would take Wang over Lester. It's really not even that close. It's ok to admit he's better. I hate the Red Sox too.
with all due respect to his great comeback, is there any chance of his cancer returning? If so, that would hinge in a big way on my decision. I don't know what he had, it just seems that many folks with cancer I know sort of live waiting for that other shoe to drop so often.
 
Please you guys are so ######ed its ridiculous. CC Sabathia's numbers are better than Beckett's across the board. Hes a better pitcher and the stats prove it.
I think you're missing something here, sentralvr.
:banned: good one
Sorry, it's an SE-R making it much more manly.Regardless of your sweet ride, the point is about C.C.'s prospects going forward. I think he's something of a delicate flower, myself.
Youre so cool making fun of random stranger's cars over the innernet. Oh wait, the fact that you still remember a thread from about 3 years ago says alot about how cool you are :popcorn:
 
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Darth Cheney said:
Giantseasonticketholder said:
Homer @ RJ said:
Wang = Lester
definitely, definitely not. I would also argue your CC > Beckett contention as well.
That's fine. You'd be wrong, but you can still argue.Why does everyone hate Wang? Is it the lack of K's?
He's not a good fantasy pitcher. Stat geeks love that.
I don't play fantasy baseball.If you don't miss bats, you better have a damn good defense up the middle to help you.

And he has Derek Jeter.

I find arguing with Yankee fans on this stuff to be semi-pointless. I told all of you a few years ago that Cano would eventually struggle because he can't take a walk and won't hit .340 every year (or, ever again). I was blown off and he was barely a AAA-player last year. So, whatever.

Wang is dependent on having a good defense behind him. He doesn't. Sooner rather than later, he will struggle.
Cant really disagree with you here. Jeter is a statue at SS, Cano (while having great range) makes too many mental lapses. It doesnt say alot for your infield defense when your best fielder is your 1B. And I also thought Cano was gonna be awesome. Last year showed me the guy just doesnt care to work on his game and now I am on the other side of the fence. I wish we wouldve traded him.
 
Please you guys are so ######ed its ridiculous. CC Sabathia's numbers are better than Beckett's across the board. Hes a better pitcher and the stats prove it.
I think you're missing something here, sentralvr.
:thumbup: good one
Sorry, it's an SE-R making it much more manly.Regardless of your sweet ride, the point is about C.C.'s prospects going forward. I think he's something of a delicate flower, myself.
Not a huge fan of shady but can a guy that cant pay a 50.00 bet make fun of someone elses car?
 
I see a rotoworld blurb that says Phil Coke's going north with the team and be the long man out of the bullpen.

Hope they throw 57 on his back.

 
shadyridr said:
Mr. Pickles said:
Please you guys are so ######ed its ridiculous. CC Sabathia's numbers are better than Beckett's across the board. Hes a better pitcher and the stats prove it.
I think you're missing something here, sentralvr.
:thumbup: good one
Sorry, it's an SE-R making it much more manly.Regardless of your sweet ride, the point is about C.C.'s prospects going forward. I think he's something of a delicate flower, myself.
Youre so cool making fun of random stranger's cars over the innernet. Oh wait, the fact that you still remember a thread from about 3 years ago says alot about how cool you are :)
It's called a notebook, and it just smacked you upside the head.
 
The foo said:
Mr. Pickles said:
Please you guys are so ######ed its ridiculous. CC Sabathia's numbers are better than Beckett's across the board. Hes a better pitcher and the stats prove it.
I think you're missing something here, sentralvr.
:thumbup: good one
Sorry, it's an SE-R making it much more manly.Regardless of your sweet ride, the point is about C.C.'s prospects going forward. I think he's something of a delicate flower, myself.
Not a huge fan of shady but can a guy that cant pay a 50.00 bet make fun of someone elses car?
Not sure what this is about.
 
Homer @ RJ said:
Giantseasonticketholder said:
I now know there is no sense arguing here. Barely AAA?He is no Rickie Weeks ( :confused: ), but .271 with 14HR's and 72 RBI is still pretty good for a 2B. He had an off year. I think you'll see a nice rebound this year.
Don't try selective stats with me.For one, try the almost sub-.300 OBP, sport. Below replacement level.
Oooh, one stat. I think we'll see an improvement. Should make the rest of his #'s better, too.
 
cc getting knocked around a bit. i had no idea he started off so badly last year.

& i'm loving the booing of tex. wonder if he'll hold up under the ny pressure. the economy taking a #### won't make him a fan favorite anywhere but ny

man i love to watch the yanks lose/struggle. only the broncos are in the same category.

 
cc getting knocked around a bit. i had no idea he started off so badly last year.
there are two different times a year CC sucks, in April and in the playoffsETA: recent Aprils anyway...he was pretty decent 4 or 5 years ago
 
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I think about 85% of the baseball talking heads on ESPN, etc took this team to win the division.

Not fishing or going off of one game, I just don't see them being better than the Rays or RSox. These mooks see names like Damon, Jeter, Matsui and Posada and just assume they are in their prime.

Really, that lineup today kind of sucked. I know it was missing ARod, but who is intimidated by that?

 
I think about 85% of the baseball talking heads on ESPN, etc took this team to win the division.

Not fishing or going off of one game, I just don't see them being better than the Rays or RSox. These mooks see names like Damon, Jeter, Matsui and Posada and just assume they are in their prime.

Really, that lineup today kind of sucked. I know it was missing ARod, but who is intimidated by that?
:goodposting: WTF are you smoking? 5 out of 21 ESPN "experts" picked the Yanks win the division http://digg.com/d1nzeWNot only that you named 4 guys who actually produced. The thing that sucked was their fielding including Posada behind the plate.

But dont let facts get in the way of your argument.

 
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I think about 85% of the baseball talking heads on ESPN, etc took this team to win the division.

Not fishing or going off of one game, I just don't see them being better than the Rays or RSox. These mooks see names like Damon, Jeter, Matsui and Posada and just assume they are in their prime.

Really, that lineup today kind of sucked. I know it was missing ARod, but who is intimidated by that?
:goodposting: WTF are you smoking? 5 out of 21 ESPN "experts" picked the Yanks win the division http://digg.com/d1nzeWNot only that you named 4 guys who actually produced. The thing that sucked was their fielding including Posada behind the plate.

But dont let facts get in the way of your argument.
I've never seen that list, but I'm not sure "The Talented Mr. Roto" or anybody else on their fantasy geek squad qualifies as experts.I guess I shouldn't have painted with such a broad stroke, but I guess I was really talking about Neyer. He's one of my favorite bloggers and he's been directly up the Yankees' ###hole the past few weeks.

btw, the fielding is only going to get worse.

 
I think about 85% of the baseball talking heads on ESPN, etc took this team to win the division.

Not fishing or going off of one game, I just don't see them being better than the Rays or RSox. These mooks see names like Damon, Jeter, Matsui and Posada and just assume they are in their prime.

Really, that lineup today kind of sucked. I know it was missing ARod, but who is intimidated by that?
:mellow: WTF are you smoking? 5 out of 21 ESPN "experts" picked the Yanks win the division http://digg.com/d1nzeWNot only that you named 4 guys who actually produced. The thing that sucked was their fielding including Posada behind the plate.

But dont let facts get in the way of your argument.
:thumbup: at the haters.
 
I think about 85% of the baseball talking heads on ESPN, etc took this team to win the division.

Not fishing or going off of one game, I just don't see them being better than the Rays or RSox. These mooks see names like Damon, Jeter, Matsui and Posada and just assume they are in their prime.

Really, that lineup today kind of sucked. I know it was missing ARod, but who is intimidated by that?
:scared: WTF are you smoking? 5 out of 21 ESPN "experts" picked the Yanks win the division http://digg.com/d1nzeWNot only that you named 4 guys who actually produced. The thing that sucked was their fielding including Posada behind the plate.

But dont let facts get in the way of your argument.
:wall: at the haters.
:shrug:
 
I think about 85% of the baseball talking heads on ESPN, etc took this team to win the division.

Not fishing or going off of one game, I just don't see them being better than the Rays or RSox. These mooks see names like Damon, Jeter, Matsui and Posada and just assume they are in their prime.

Really, that lineup today kind of sucked. I know it was missing ARod, but who is intimidated by that?
:bag: WTF are you smoking? 5 out of 21 ESPN "experts" picked the Yanks win the division http://digg.com/d1nzeWNot only that you named 4 guys who actually produced. The thing that sucked was their fielding including Posada behind the plate.

But dont let facts get in the way of your argument.
:lol: at the haters.
:bye:
I look forward to working with you all season. I guess you really can tell how good you are by the number of people who hate you.
 
I think about 85% of the baseball talking heads on ESPN, etc took this team to win the division.

Not fishing or going off of one game, I just don't see them being better than the Rays or RSox. These mooks see names like Damon, Jeter, Matsui and Posada and just assume they are in their prime.

Really, that lineup today kind of sucked. I know it was missing ARod, but who is intimidated by that?
:coffee: WTF are you smoking? 5 out of 21 ESPN "experts" picked the Yanks win the division http://digg.com/d1nzeWNot only that you named 4 guys who actually produced. The thing that sucked was their fielding including Posada behind the plate.

But dont let facts get in the way of your argument.
;) at the haters.
:bye:
I look forward to working with you all season. I guess you really can tell how good you are by the number of people who hate you.
true to a point. it helps when you win though. ;)
 
Hey folks, I have been working far too many hours and I have not been on here yet this year, but here is what I wrote on my blog. Yes, I cheated and have 1 game of "data" to make predictions from. Hope everyone is doing well in these tough times! Shady, thanks for getting this started again!

I am sorry I didn’t get any pre season predictions out, but if you can give me a one game mulligan I would appreciate it. I have been a little busier than normal and, well, I guess I didn’t get it done…my apologies.

I guess we will not win every game this year?

Below are my predictions of the players, but I wanted to discuss game 1.

I am good with the lineup/batting order. Many people have made a big deal of Jeter leading off, but that is fine. It also opens up the opportunity for Swisher to bat against some lefties in the 2 spot (taking Damon’s spot). Swisher should see plenty of action acting as a platoon for Nady against righties who are tough on righties and for Damon against lefties who are tough on lefties.

CC couldn’t spot his fastball at all and I thought Baltimore did a nice job of laying off some close pitches. The 3rd base coach screwed up by waving Nady home in that spot; no reason to pull a “Meacham” in that spot. He must have thought the ball went through, but you have to slow Nady up there and then he could walk home if the ball gets through. Even with slowing up Nady would have made it easily if the ball went through. Bad job by Thompson (3rd base coach) there.

Girardi used Swisher at the right time as Ransom is the guy you want to pinch hit for and he correctly pinch ran for him after the double.

I thought Girardi messed up leaving Coke in though. Opening day, you have a full bullpen, Coke had pitched in 2 innings (1.3), why not take him out and get him off to a good start? It was silly to keep him in there, especially because he wasn’t sharp (even if he was effective). But, it is game 1, get him off to a good start and move on. Damon would have caught the ball if it wasn’t interfered with by the fan, but those things happen.

I thought the Yankees defense failed to make a lot of plays they could have. None were terrible/errors, but Ransom, Gardner, Damon and Posada had chances to make plays that they didn’t. Texiera did make a great scoop and a terrible throw by Jeter though.

Just one kind of ugly game to start off the year, but at least Posada and Matsui HR’d to show us how much we missed them last year.

Stay on the bridge folks; as long as we stay healthy we will be winning in the high 90’s this year.

Predictions/thoughts:

Jeter – Jeter is coming off his worst offensive year of his career (rookie year of 48 AB’s excluded). Is his age of 34 showing? Perhaps. His OPS of .771 is still not bad for a SS, but it is not up to his career .845 OPS. Jeter got hit a bunch of times last year and seemed nagged by injuries as his hands didn’t seem “right” for him most of last year. His power was really weak last year and I attribute that a little more to the weakness of his hands compared to age. I expect a small up tick from Jeter offensively and an OPS of around .800. Defensively I have been chronicling Jeter’s shortcomings since the day ARod came and I was the first to say the Yanks should have moved Jeter to CF at that time. The Captain is painfully slow at moving to his left and his hands are not quick around 2nd base. His arm for a SS is middle of the road strength wise, but is inaccurate. Jeter does go back on the popups as well as any SS and does make the routine plays very well. Like I mentioned earlier this year, the Yanks will have a very tough decision with Jeter the year after next. He probably will not hit well enough to be a corner OF and he has no other home? The Yanks will probably be best to part ways with him then…but let’s enjoy him now and hope he can give us an .800 OPS for the next 2 years.

Damon – Hard guy to predict offensively as he has one of the more unique swings in baseball. I would expect a down tick for Damon compared to last year at about the same rate that Jeter should have an up tick. Expect Damon to be around an .800 OPS as well. Defensively, Damon has good range for a LF and while his glove is a little shaky at times, he will cover LF better than anyone else on the team who doesn’t play CF. Damon’s arm is the weakest in baseball and teams will consistently take the extra base on him. This is a huge liability in his game, but the rest of the package is fairly solid.

Texiera – Texiera will become a fan favorite here. He works the count, gets on base, hits for power and plays solid D. He is not a SB threat; that is fine; he will enjoy a great career with the Yanks. I expect an OPS of .950 out of him.

ARod – Assuming his hip is not an issue, I expect ARod to have a similar to slightly better year offensively than last year. Last year he had a very solid OPS of .965 and maintaining will be OK by me, but I predict a little more this year. Maybe wishful thinking as I don’t have a good reason for predicting this. One other note, ARod takes bases as he is an excellent base runner. He also has averaged 21 SB's while only being caught 4 times for his 5 years with the Yanks. Not sure how the hip will impact this, but 15 SB’s with 3 caught is reasonable to expect. BTW, to adjust for the benefit of a player’s ability to steal a base, you can add to the OPS for every SB above twice the caught stealing. For example, 15 SB’s and 3 caught stealing would be 15 – 3 (*2) = 9. The 9 represents 9 extra bases or one way to look at it is to say that 9 singles were turned into doubles. In ARods case 9 extra bases in 550 plate appearances would add 16 points to his OPS (let’s say to adjust from .950 - .966)

Matsui – Missing Matsui for half of last year hurt them more than it would if they lost him this year for the same amount of time. It was just one more of those last straws that knocked the Yanks down last year. His solid presence is “comforting” in the lineup. Turning 35 in June, his age is a factor as well, but his .794 OPS will be improved upon this year!

Posada – Most of you know I am a big fan of Posada. It started back when I thought Torre was foolish to not play Posada over Girardi for a few years and once Posada took over it was the same we felt about the offense of Posada compared to Molina…great to have a catcher hit like Posada did in 2007. That being said, Posada is a guess hitter and at 35 it was strange to have a career year offensively (especially for a catcher who are usually shot at this age). I have to expect a large drop off from 2007’s .969 OPS, but Posada should give us a more than .775 OPS of last year in 168 AB’s. Let’s hope for low-mid .800’s!

Side bar: I started to think about the year Posada had in 2007 and how great it was. I have not done the research, but nobody talks about Posada being a HOF’r and they should. 6 silver sluggers and I think 4 WS rings to go along with 5 All Star appearances. His career OPS of .858 has to be top 10 of all time for a catcher (anybody want to do some research to check this?).

Cano – In reviewing all my predictions last year Cano was my huge swing and miss. Well, I guess my reputation will be tied to this guy as I just can’t see a player with such great wrists as Cano be anything worse than a very solid offensive player. I know he is a hacker (and I hate that), but the guy has immense natural talent to work with and he is only 26. His OPS was an extremely low and disappointing .715 last year. If Cano doesn’t improve his OPS by a full 100 points than something is terribly wrong in my scouting ability. I would put money on this.

Here is to Cano not making me look foolish again.

Nady - His best year was when he had an OPS of .806 and then all of a sudden he has an OPS of .918 with Pittsburgh before he comes to us? Sometimes at the age of 30 guys take it to the next level, but I am not expecting a high .800 OPS from Nady.

Swisher – If Swisher is used wisely he can increase the OPS of Damon and Nady by taking the matchups that they would struggle with. This should also boost Swisher as he should be against righties who struggle against lefties and lefties who struggle with righties. Swisher only hit .219 last year and while he is not a guy who will hit for a high average, it is expected that his production will be solid based on a lot of walks and solid power. He will do better than last year and his OPS will be over .800.

Ransom – A guy who I hope can play decent defense and not be awful offensively. Anything above a .700 OPS is at least in that realm, but I hope for above .725 with anything above .750 a bonus. He has some power, but he will strike out every 4 AB’s.

33 year old players with a total of 217 plate appearances can not be expected to do more than that. Maybe we get lucky until ARod comes back?

Melky – On the positive side, Melky is only 24 years old, a switch hitter and he has a very strong and accurate arm. That is about where it ends though. His release to throw is far too long, he has slow speed for a CF’r, not enough power to play the corners and regressed terribly two years in a row. Could he become a line drive machine, sure he could, but he seems like a player that will always be a 4th or more likely 5th OF’r. If he doesn’t improve, he will be doing that in the minors. He has some ability though and is not worth throwing away, but for the Yanks he doesn’t have much value.

Gardner – Gardner’s offensive numbers were Molina-ish (maybe this can replace the Mendoza line and I should patent it?). But he showed improvement in his 2nd time up last year and I want his defense in CF. He throws better than people have said and can fly and the yanks need that. I would have liked to see him catch that ball in the opener, but Melky would not have been near that ball. Gardner will help us defensively and with his speed is worthy of playing with the team around him. He will also improve on last years .582 OPS significantly. I think a .100 point improvement is reasonable to expect and while he won’t hit for any power, he will steal 30-40 bases (only getting caught a handful of times) if he plays every day. Let’s say he hits .275 with an OBP of .325 and a slug of .375 for a .700 OPS. Lets’ use the ARod SB method from above and if Gardner can steal 35 bases and get caught only 7 times, if he gets 550 PA’s, his OPS would be adjusted up to .738. With his defense, I would be fine with that!

Pitchers – I don’t want to go through every pitcher, but I want to point out that I am more confident in the bullpen than most are (especially after game 1 people are all over the bullpen). Bruney is better than people think and having Coke and Marte will help if Girardi uses them like he should. While there will always inconsistent performances, there is not one pitcher who I don’t think can pitch in the pen and we have some guys in the minors who can step in if needed. The rotation is the best we have had for as long as I can remember. I think the weak link is Pettitte.

As long as Rivera can keep up his amazing pitching (and he doesn’t have to be as great as last year to do this), we will be fine

Boston made some solid moves that were unheralded and TB has a lot of young talent that they can build off of, but I see this Yankee team as being a high 90 win team.

Stay healthy and we will enjoy a great year!

Win number 1 tonight!

 
Fair write-up for the most part.

I may get killed for saying this, but I would rather the Yankees re-sign Jeter and not win the World Series the next 5 years rather than let him walk and win one every year. I love the team and I root for them 100%, but there's something to be said for having a connection to the players and not just rooting for laundry.

 
Fair write-up for the most part.

I may get killed for saying this, but I would rather the Yankees re-sign Jeter and not win the World Series the next 5 years rather than let him walk and win one every year. I love the team and I root for them 100%, but there's something to be said for having a connection to the players and not just rooting for laundry.
:confused: :mellow: :lmao: at rooting for a team that is known for bringing in new, high priced, talent EVERY year.
 
Fair write-up for the most part.I may get killed for saying this, but I would rather the Yankees re-sign Jeter and not win the World Series the next 5 years rather than let him walk and win one every year. I love the team and I root for them 100%, but there's something to be said for having a connection to the players and not just rooting for laundry.
:goodposting: i agree, and for as much as anything, its not like getting rid of Jeter guarantees you'll be hoisting three straight trophies. Jeter was a difference maker in previous years, and so long as he won't cost you a series(which if you get him off of SS, I don't think he will, then whats the worry.I could definately see a 2010 alignment of Jeter at 3rd, A-Rod DH/LF and someone else at short. Realistically, roid guys do start to have joint tweaks, and I don't know that he'll be able to handle 3b if he's off the juice. A-Rod might be better served in another slot.
 
Fair write-up for the most part.

I may get killed for saying this, but I would rather the Yankees re-sign Jeter and not win the World Series the next 5 years rather than let him walk and win one every year. I love the team and I root for them 100%, but there's something to be said for having a connection to the players and not just rooting for laundry.
:bowtie: :coffee: :lmao: at rooting for a team that is known for bringing in new, high priced, talent EVERY year.
I don't get it. I was a fan since 1988. I had a connection to guys like Mattingly, Winfield, Pags...then guys like Kevin Maas, Mike Stanley, and Roberto Kelly...then Bernie, Pettitte, Mo, Jeter, Posada...now it's guys like Cano, Gardner, Joba, Wang. Obviously there's more connection with the homegrown guys (I realize Winfield and Stanley came from other teams). But should I stop rooting for the homegrown guys just because they sign a lot of high-priced free agents too?Is it a crime that I don't want them to bring in a shiny new toy to replace the captain of the team?!? I'm really confused. Would it have been better to say I want to win at all costs, even if it means Jeter goes? Because for some reason, I'm thinking if I did that then I'm guessing you'd have a :lmao: smiley wondering how I could so easily turn my back on the leader of the team...Yankee fans only care about winning, not the players, they have a warped sense of reality, they're greedy, blah blah blah.

 
Fair write-up for the most part.I may get killed for saying this, but I would rather the Yankees re-sign Jeter and not win the World Series the next 5 years rather than let him walk and win one every year. I love the team and I root for them 100%, but there's something to be said for having a connection to the players and not just rooting for laundry.
I agree. He is The Captain and has earned his right to leave when he wants to leave.Obviously, all of that losing has made Wrigley delirious.
 
Fair write-up for the most part.I may get killed for saying this, but I would rather the Yankees re-sign Jeter and not win the World Series the next 5 years rather than let him walk and win one every year. I love the team and I root for them 100%, but there's something to be said for having a connection to the players and not just rooting for laundry.
I agree. He is The Captain and has earned his right to leave when he wants to leave.Obviously, all of that losing has made Wrigley delirious.
I've got no problem with Jeter, and I appreciate MB wanting the Yankee's to keep him.I just thought it was funny because we're talking about a team that changes players like hooker in Vegas changes dudes. And no, I'm not delirious because of all the losing....I'm used to it
 
Wrigley said:
Fair write-up for the most part.

I may get killed for saying this, but I would rather the Yankees re-sign Jeter and not win the World Series the next 5 years rather than let him walk and win one every year. I love the team and I root for them 100%, but there's something to be said for having a connection to the players and not just rooting for laundry.
I agree. He is The Captain and has earned his right to leave when he wants to leave.Obviously, all of that losing has made Wrigley delirious.
I've got no problem with Jeter, and I appreciate MB wanting the Yankee's to keep him.I just thought it was funny because we're talking about a team that changes players like hooker in Vegas changes dudes.

And no, I'm not delirious because of all the losing....I'm used to it
:shrug: Yankees probably have less roster turnover than any team in the league because A) they can afford to keep ALL of their high priced stars and B) any "mistake" contracts they give out cannot just be dumped onto another team due to salary implications and C) they can give out the longest contracts in the league because they can afford to.
 
Off to a helluva start. What did CC go like 3 innings with no Ks and Tex is hitless. A few other organizations saw the signs early.

 
Wrigley said:
Fair write-up for the most part.

I may get killed for saying this, but I would rather the Yankees re-sign Jeter and not win the World Series the next 5 years rather than let him walk and win one every year. I love the team and I root for them 100%, but there's something to be said for having a connection to the players and not just rooting for laundry.
I agree. He is The Captain and has earned his right to leave when he wants to leave.Obviously, all of that losing has made Wrigley delirious.
I've got no problem with Jeter, and I appreciate MB wanting the Yankee's to keep him.I just thought it was funny because we're talking about a team that changes players like hooker in Vegas changes dudes.

And no, I'm not delirious because of all the losing....I'm used to it
:goodposting: Yankees probably have less roster turnover than any team in the league because A) they can afford to keep ALL of their high priced stars and B) any "mistake" contracts they give out cannot just be dumped onto another team due to salary implications and C) they can give out the longest contracts in the league because they can afford to.
They come to the Yanks to become "high priced stars"
 
0-2 baby! :topcat:

i'm very interested to see if tex can handle the ny pressure. no one seems to talk about it, but i think it might get to him a bit. & with the #### economy, he's going to get booed more then usual.

 
0-2 baby! :lmao:i'm very interested to see if tex can handle the ny pressure. no one seems to talk about it, but i think it might get to him a bit. & with the #### economy, he's going to get booed more then usual.
If Mark Teixeira is the biggest problem the Yankees have this season, they'll win the World Series blindfolded.
 
0-2 baby! :popcorn:i'm very interested to see if tex can handle the ny pressure. no one seems to talk about it, but i think it might get to him a bit. & with the #### economy, he's going to get booed more then usual.
If Mark Teixeira is the biggest problem the Yankees have this season, they'll win the World Series blindfolded.
hhmmm....i said nothing about "biggest problem" but i'm glad to see yankee arrogance in full force 2 games into the season.
 
Girardi Watch is on.

Baltimore, KC and Tampa on this swing. Going into that, you had to figure they'd go 5-4 at worst, and thats losing 2 of 3 in Tampa.

What worries me is, they don't have that old killer instinct to bully these lesser teams and getting a little money in the bank for when you play the top squads. Would anyone be shocked if they came home 3-6?

Joe seemed like he really tried to "get it" and improve things this year, but I don't think he can or should survive a sub .500 April, A-Rod or no A-Rod.

 
Yanks with a real murderers row out there today:

Jeter

Damon

Teixeira

Nady

Cano

Swisher

Ransom

Gardner

Molina

At least AJ looks like hes dealing.

 
I think about 85% of the baseball talking heads on ESPN, etc took this team to win the division.

Not fishing or going off of one game, I just don't see them being better than the Rays or RSox. These mooks see names like Damon, Jeter, Matsui and Posada and just assume they are in their prime.

Really, that lineup today kind of sucked. I know it was missing ARod, but who is intimidated by that?
:confused: WTF are you smoking? 5 out of 21 ESPN "experts" picked the Yanks win the division http://digg.com/d1nzeWNot only that you named 4 guys who actually produced. The thing that sucked was their fielding including Posada behind the plate.

But dont let facts get in the way of your argument.
:suds: at the haters.
Why am I a hater because I don't think it's a good team?I dislike the Red Sox, but I think they're a very good team. Trust me, I hate the Florida Gators waaaaaaaaay more than the Yankees, and I don't only think, but I know they're loaded and likely to win the BCS again this year.

I just think this year's Yanks are very poorly put together. I said this weeks ago. Posada, Jeter, Cano and the entire outfield are all average to below-average regulars at this point.

 
I think about 85% of the baseball talking heads on ESPN, etc took this team to win the division.

Not fishing or going off of one game, I just don't see them being better than the Rays or RSox. These mooks see names like Damon, Jeter, Matsui and Posada and just assume they are in their prime.

Really, that lineup today kind of sucked. I know it was missing ARod, but who is intimidated by that?
:popcorn: WTF are you smoking? 5 out of 21 ESPN "experts" picked the Yanks win the division http://digg.com/d1nzeWNot only that you named 4 guys who actually produced. The thing that sucked was their fielding including Posada behind the plate.

But dont let facts get in the way of your argument.
:rant: at the haters.
Why am I a hater because I don't think it's a good team?I dislike the Red Sox, but I think they're a very good team. Trust me, I hate the Florida Gators waaaaaaaaay more than the Yankees, and I don't only think, but I know they're loaded and likely to win the BCS again this year.

I just think this year's Yanks are very poorly put together. I said this weeks ago. Posada, Jeter, Cano and the entire outfield are all average to below-average regulars at this point.
That's funny. You picked the Yanks to finish 2nd ahead of the Sox in this thread
 
I think about 85% of the baseball talking heads on ESPN, etc took this team to win the division.

Not fishing or going off of one game, I just don't see them being better than the Rays or RSox. These mooks see names like Damon, Jeter, Matsui and Posada and just assume they are in their prime.

Really, that lineup today kind of sucked. I know it was missing ARod, but who is intimidated by that?
:no: WTF are you smoking? 5 out of 21 ESPN "experts" picked the Yanks win the division http://digg.com/d1nzeWNot only that you named 4 guys who actually produced. The thing that sucked was their fielding including Posada behind the plate.

But dont let facts get in the way of your argument.
:excited: at the haters.
Why am I a hater because I don't think it's a good team?I dislike the Red Sox, but I think they're a very good team. Trust me, I hate the Florida Gators waaaaaaaaay more than the Yankees, and I don't only think, but I know they're loaded and likely to win the BCS again this year.

I just think this year's Yanks are very poorly put together. I said this weeks ago. Posada, Jeter, Cano and the entire outfield are all average to below-average regulars at this point.
That's funny. You picked the Yanks to finish 2nd ahead of the Sox in this thread
I changed my mind. About two weeks ago I mentioned I thought the Yanks were a 85-90 win team. I think the Sox are around 93-94.btw, how are you a 49er fan AND a Yankee fan? Why not Jets or Giants?

 

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