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**Official YANKEES 2009 Thread** (2 Viewers)
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blackjack23
Footballguy
AROD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
Sickening
money.never.sleeps
Footballguy
Already.. Arod 3 run shot.
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The Ghost of Common
Guest
blackjack23
Footballguy
Yanks needed that from CC
HellToupee
Footballguy
"what is it ?its an a-bomb from arod"
Even Yankees fans must admit John Sterling sucks and is a lick spidle
Michael Brown
Footballguy
Fixed. Remember, we're the ones who regularly have to listen to him when we can't get to a TV!
"what is it ?its an a-bomb from arod"
Even Especially Yankees fans must admit John Sterling sucks and is a lick spidle
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
yep. but after aroid's return all is well now......right???I've got to hand it to you, you do make a compelling argument.
Michael Brown
Footballguy
Not sure where you're going with this, but things are certainly better with him than without, no?yep. but after aroid's return all is well now......right???I've got to hand it to you, you do make a compelling argument.
flysack
Footballguy
Yep. It was nice to see. CC is coming into form in May, which has been his MO for some time now. He absolutely dominated the same team that shelled him in April.all cylinders tonight
A-Rod is a difference maker, of course.
It's nice to see, but I won't go further than that.
I will say this -
The people that keep saying "this team just isn't that good" are dead wrong. They are "constructed" to win and win big. They just aren't performing well and have injuries.
The bullpen is much better than this - they're underperforming terribly. The same crew last year were good. I don't know if they'll become a strength, but I expect them to pick it up as the season progresses and get the job done.
If Tex starts hitting like we can, him and A-rod have the potential to be as dangerous as Ortiz-Manny once were. I said "potential." Simmer down naysayers. The comparison is fair. Will it happen? Who knows.
Wang is a major X-factor down the stretch. His injury/meltdown has hurt this team more than anything, IMO. He was supposed to be one of the best #2 starters in baseball this year, leaving Brunett to be one of the best #3 starters in baseball, and Pettite to be one of the best #4s. Now everyone is shuffling around and we're looking desperately at Hughes and Chamberlain, AGAIN. This was not a formula for success last year. It won't be this year.
There's lots of
, but enough hope to look forward to July.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
sarcasm down?& let me get this out of the way, i respect the yankees. the new stadium, in light of the financial times, is a joke. the money spent year in & year out, is becoming/already is, a joke. especially with the product that has been & is currently on the field. of course the team will be better with aroid. the yankees will right the ship, as much as they can, & finish the season with 85+ wins, but won't make the playoffs. for any other team, this would be a pretty good accomplishment. not for the yankees though. hence my laughter. from a buster olney article:Not sure where you're going with this, but things are certainly better with him than without, no?yep. but after aroid's return all is well now......right???I've got to hand it to you, you do make a compelling argument.
p.s. the sox have the best record in the AL.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
they have the potential to be better imho.however, as i said at the beginning of the year, i think tex will struggle in the NY spotlight. just a hunch. he's had the excuse of not having aroid in the lineup to protect him, let's see what happens now.
blackjack23
Footballguy
wow thats insane
flysack
Footballguy
He's also a traditional slow starter. He gets A-Rod back and it's May, so the bat should start coming to life. Should.
Finless
Footballguy
I honestly don't know how the Steinbrenners or the fans sleep at night....completely ridiculous. When does it stop? If they don't win this year do they shell out another $150M and go into 2010 with a $350M payroll?
blackjack23
Footballguy
Homer @ RJ
Footballguy
Hughes 
Michael Brown
Footballguy
Yeah I wish he looked as good as Matt Garza and James Shields when they were in the majors at 22.Oh wait, they were still in the minor leagues. So I guess that means he's ahead of them at the same age. If he becomes even close to as effective as those guys, I'll be happy.Hughes
comfortably numb
Footballguy
IMO your right and wrong, these last Yankee teams are constructed to win and win BIG.....in season.Playoffs, not so much.The last several years, the Yankees essentially have over priced DH's at most positions.The glory days of the Yankees saw tight starting pitching, great bullpen, timely hitting, and a knack for producing runs, when they needed to.Now, very few players can/will lay down a bunt.The team gets old FAST, no one is scared of them anymore, and throwing $ at the problems rarely helps.I hope I am wrong, as a Mets fan who enjoys watching the Yankees succeed, I just think they are really not that good of a team.I'm tired of looking at their team on paper in April and thinking, there has never been a better constructed lineup, only to see them bat 220 and lose in the 1st RD of the playoffs 3 games to 1.I will say this -The people that keep saying "this team just isn't that good" are dead wrong. They are "constructed" to win and win big. They just aren't performing well and have injuries.all cylinders tonight
flysack
Footballguy
I won't be happy. Because he'll be pitching for another team.Yeah I wish he looked as good as Matt Garza and James Shields when they were in the majors at 22.Oh wait, they were still in the minor leagues. So I guess that means he's ahead of them at the same age. If he becomes even close to as effective as those guys, I'll be happy.Hughes
flysack
Footballguy
Cano. Maybe Melky. Maybe Chamberlain as the closer.
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Michael Brown
Footballguy
Eh, I don't know you can judge the team five years from now based on what you see in the majors today. Obviously the Yanks haven't made a concerted effort to build the system up in the last 10 years but that could be slowly changing. We've seen Cervelli, Cano, Melky, Wang, Joba, Hughes, Kennedy, Melancon, Veres, Coke at one point or another the last 2 years.There aren't a ton of home-grown guys currently up, but we don't know how the team will look even 2 years from now let alone 5. The farm system has guys like Brackman, Melancon, Jackson, and Montero who all have very high upsides. Guys like Matsui, Damon, Pettitte, Posada, Mo won't even be around by 2012 -- or much sooner in some cases.flysack said:
Not to make this a Yankees/Red Sox thing, just to use an example...but a year ago Boston fans probably thought they had a dominant lefty ace for the next 5-7 years and now he's been terrible. Youkilis is an MVP candidate, but 5 years from now he's pushing 35. Not saying I wouldn't take these guys NOW (and also not saying the Yankees AA prospects will ever even see pinstripes anyway), but it's not really a question that can be answered with any kind of certainty. Five years is a long time. How long? Five years ago, Joba and Hughes weren't even with the team yet. So you really can't bury them for not having homegrown talent come April 2014 when it's only May 2009.
gump
Footballguy
I was just thinking how odd it could look...a team completely full of Free Agents or players from trades. Not sure what the team with the least amount of home-grown guys was...Marlins maybe?
Finless
Footballguy
First and only team that comes to mind.
Michael Brown
Footballguy
2001 D'Backs had almost nobody homegrown if memory serves. Of course, I try to remember as little as possible about that team...
Darth Cheney
Footballguy
04 RedSox, Brah.
Reaper
Footballguy
I still say the utter torture of listening to Suzzanne Waldman's voice makes me BEGGGG to hear Sterling.....Fixed. Remember, we're the ones who regularly have to listen to him when we can't get to a TV!
"what is it ?its an a-bomb from arod"
Even Especially Yankees fans must admit John Sterling sucks and is a lick spidle
Michael Brown
Footballguy
Agreed. That says more about the awfulness of Waldman than anything positive Sterling is dishing up these days.I still say the utter torture of listening to Suzzanne Waldman's voice makes me BEGGGG to hear Sterling.....Fixed. Remember, we're the ones who regularly have to listen to him when we can't get to a TV!
"what is it ?its an a-bomb from arod"
Even Especially Yankees fans must admit John Sterling sucks and is a lick spidle
NY/NJMFDIVER
Footballguy
at the O's fans for holding up syringes at A-Rod, when their franchise player is on the Mitchell List. Gee, pesky second basemen don't suddenly hit 20 home runs without the juice after all.I guess you can throw stones at Camden Yards stands though, you're not likely to hit anyone.
avoiding injuries
Footballguy
I won't stick up for the fans holding up syringes, but our franchise player is in RF. And Camden Yards sold out every game when the stadium was brand new for quite a few seasons. Unfortunately, we've had 10 years below .500. Serious question, has your new stadium sold out once this year?NY/NJMFDIVER said:at the O's fans for holding up syringes at A-Rod, when their franchise player is on the Mitchell List. Gee, pesky second basemen don't suddenly hit 20 home runs without the juice after all. I guess you can throw stones at Camden Yards stands though, you're not likely to hit anyone.
Wrigley
Footballguy
You would hit someone in the first 10 rowsNY/NJMFDIVER said:at the O's fans for holding up syringes at A-Rod, when their franchise player is on the Mitchell List. Gee, pesky second basemen don't suddenly hit 20 home runs without the juice after all. I guess you can throw stones at Camden Yards stands though, you're not likely to hit anyone.
Homer @ RJ
Footballguy
at a Yankee fan bagging on attendance. Your stadium looks like a graveyard.blackjack23
Footballguy
Yeah thats pretty ######ed
Man In The Box
Footballguy
You are being mislead by the empty seats behind home plate that cost $2500. No one can afford these seats in today's economy and the Yankees are slowly realizing this. These seats will be filled once they lower the prices. The Yankees actually lead MLB in attendance this year.Link
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
You are being mislead by the empty seats behind home plate that cost $2500. No one can afford these seats in today's economy and the Yankees are slowly realizing this. These seats will be filled once they lower the prices. The Yankees actually lead MLB in attendance this year.Link
Homer @ RJ
Footballguy
I have no doubt the cheaper seats are selling. But I'm not being mislead about anything. The first 25 rows are empty, and that's embarrassing for a team that holds itself up like the Yankees do. Don't act like you wouldn't be here bagging on the Sox if the first 25 rows of Fenway weren't sold out either. Raidernation would as well, assuming he doesn't jump on the Red Sox bandwagon by then.You are being mislead by the empty seats behind home plate that cost $2500. No one can afford these seats in today's economy and the Yankees are slowly realizing this. These seats will be filled once they lower the prices. The Yankees actually lead MLB in attendance this year.Link
Homer @ RJ
Footballguy
Serious question. Have you ever actually been to Oakland? Or the west coast of the country for that matter?You are being mislead by the empty seats behind home plate that cost $2500. No one can afford these seats in today's economy and the Yankees are slowly realizing this. These seats will be filled once they lower the prices. The Yankees actually lead MLB in attendance this year.Link
Man In The Box
Footballguy
If you seriously believe that the front 25 rows of Yankee Stadium are empty, then yes, you are mislead. It's simply not true. Yes, there are some empty seats in the lower tier. 25 rows is beyond exaggerating. Take it from someone who's been there a few times this year. There are PLENTY of people at the new stadium. Like I said earlier in the thread, the corridors, shops, bars, etc, are packed with people. Constantly. From where I sit, I get a good view of every level of the stadium and I can see the people walking around. Believe me, I wish they'd sit in their seats and watch the game and make some friggin noise, but that's another story.I have no doubt the cheaper seats are selling. But I'm not being mislead about anything. The first 25 rows are empty, and that's embarrassing for a team that holds itself up like the Yankees do. Don't act like you wouldn't be here bagging on the Sox if the first 25 rows of Fenway weren't sold out either. Raidernation would as well, assuming he doesn't jump on the Red Sox bandwagon by then.You are being mislead by the empty seats behind home plate that cost $2500. No one can afford these seats in today's economy and the Yankees are slowly realizing this. These seats will be filled once they lower the prices. The Yankees actually lead MLB in attendance this year.Link
flysack
Footballguy
You are being mislead by the empty seats behind home plate that cost $2500. No one can afford these seats in today's economy and the Yankees are slowly realizing this. These seats will be filled once they lower the prices. The Yankees actually lead MLB in attendance this year.Linkat a Yankee fan bagging on attendance. Your stadium looks like a graveyard.
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
Serious question. Have you ever actually been to Oakland? Or the west coast of the country for that matter?You are being mislead by the empty seats behind home plate that cost $2500. No one can afford these seats in today's economy and the Yankees are slowly realizing this. These seats will be filled once they lower the prices. The Yankees actually lead MLB in attendance this year.Link
at the subject change CappySo, I got owned here, who's been to the Bay Area?
/Cappy
Homer @ RJ
Footballguy
Are you a stupid person? I replied to the guy three posts up.Serious question. Have you ever actually been to Oakland? Or the west coast of the country for that matter?You are being mislead by the empty seats behind home plate that cost $2500. No one can afford these seats in today's economy and the Yankees are slowly realizing this. These seats will be filled once they lower the prices. The Yankees actually lead MLB in attendance this year.Link
So, I got owned here, who's been to the Bay Area?
/Cappy
I understand you're sore over the Alexi Ramirez thing, but he sucks. Let it go.
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
I read the thread from the last post back. I'm sorry I didn't see your previous attempt at backpedaling before the attempt at a subject change.Are you a stupid person? I replied to the guy three posts up.at the subject change
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Serious question. Have you ever actually been to Oakland? Or the west coast of the country for that matter?You are being mislead by the empty seats behind home plate that cost $2500. No one can afford these seats in today's economy and the Yankees are slowly realizing this. These seats will be filled once they lower the prices. The Yankees actually lead MLB in attendance this year.Link
I'm an Army brat. I was born in Hawai'i and lived there until the age of 6. From 7-13, I lived in Piedmont which is just north of Oakland. Went to about 16 games in that span with my father. My high school years we lived in Brooklyn. Hence, Raider/Yankee fan.Now tell me what this all has to do with you getting :(
NY/NJMFDIVER
Footballguy
I don't mean to totally slag a fanbase, as you said, when things were good they sold well. If you DIDN'T have what is probably the best park in baseball, I'd better understand it, the attendance there is spotty lately. My jabs are more directed at the needle people. That said, regarding the stadium, I don't believe they've had a full capacity sellout yet, but outside of that "millionaires horseshoe", which I'm guessing is between 1500-2000 seats, you can't get a ticket for Yankee Stadium.I won't stick up for the fans holding up syringes, but our franchise player is in RF. And Camden Yards sold out every game when the stadium was brand new for quite a few seasons. Unfortunately, we've had 10 years below .500. Serious question, has your new stadium sold out once this year?
NY/NJMFDIVER
Footballguy
As i said to AI, its them winning as much as anything that brings the fans in. But that said, 10 straight years over 3 million fans, 4 straight years over 4 million, and 3.5 million tix sold already this year, I think a Yankee fan could brag about attendance if they so chose.
