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**Official YANKEES 2009 Thread** (3 Viewers)
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PatsWillWin
Footballguy
HEAR THOSE FOOTSTEPS?
ScottNorwood
Footballcutie
Liquid Tension
Footballguy
Hey folks, I am back after having a 2 week journey through Europe. I was able to stay in touch with the Yankees through my Blackberry and some good updates from friends and family through email. Sweeping the Red Sox should put to rest the BS people talk about that the Yanks can’t beat good teams or ARod is not clutch or whatever the phrase of the day is when people overreact to a simple situation of “stuff” happens.
When you are a good team that is healthy you will win a lot of games…this is who the Yankees are.
I saw last nights game and was worried that the blown opportunities in the 1st 2 innings would come back to haunt us, but the Yankees came back on a monster home run by Godzilla and a weak homer by Posada…either way they were both huge. It was good to see the Yanks tack on some runs to give Rivera some cushion.
Girardi did a smart thing by bringing in Robertson in the 8th inning to get the final out rather than Hughes. Using Hughes for one batter (one out) doesn’t make sense because you would like to have him available for at least an inning just in case the game went into extra innings.
Going back to the 1st inning, I think we have had too many guys thrown out at home plate by wide margins. People talk about being aggressive, but giving away outs is not smart. I think with 2 outs we are too aggressive at 3rd base. I would rather have 2nd and 3rd and 2 outs and take my 28% chance of getting some runs in rather than a 10% chance of the defense making a bad throw and hope our runner scores. Teams can score runs with 2 outs.
Just one other note: I would like to see more high fastball strikes over the center of the plate. Too many times we call for the high strike either in or out and I believe that high cheese (at 95+) is still a very effective pitch to get a strike out or pop up. I also believe that the idea of the high pitch is to 1) change the plane that the batters eye sight is getting used to and 2) make them swing at the pitch. The 2nd part is more easily accomplished because the pitch is centered on the plate and the batter is more likely to swing at a pitch letter high centered than on the corner. I have been saying this for awhile (mostly to myself and people I watch the game with) and wanted to get down in writing.
I will give you my opinions on the trades when I can watch the players more.
Things are looking good!
When you are a good team that is healthy you will win a lot of games…this is who the Yankees are.
I saw last nights game and was worried that the blown opportunities in the 1st 2 innings would come back to haunt us, but the Yankees came back on a monster home run by Godzilla and a weak homer by Posada…either way they were both huge. It was good to see the Yanks tack on some runs to give Rivera some cushion.
Girardi did a smart thing by bringing in Robertson in the 8th inning to get the final out rather than Hughes. Using Hughes for one batter (one out) doesn’t make sense because you would like to have him available for at least an inning just in case the game went into extra innings.
Going back to the 1st inning, I think we have had too many guys thrown out at home plate by wide margins. People talk about being aggressive, but giving away outs is not smart. I think with 2 outs we are too aggressive at 3rd base. I would rather have 2nd and 3rd and 2 outs and take my 28% chance of getting some runs in rather than a 10% chance of the defense making a bad throw and hope our runner scores. Teams can score runs with 2 outs.
Just one other note: I would like to see more high fastball strikes over the center of the plate. Too many times we call for the high strike either in or out and I believe that high cheese (at 95+) is still a very effective pitch to get a strike out or pop up. I also believe that the idea of the high pitch is to 1) change the plane that the batters eye sight is getting used to and 2) make them swing at the pitch. The 2nd part is more easily accomplished because the pitch is centered on the plate and the batter is more likely to swing at a pitch letter high centered than on the corner. I have been saying this for awhile (mostly to myself and people I watch the game with) and wanted to get down in writing.
I will give you my opinions on the trades when I can watch the players more.
Things are looking good!
Its funny you say that. We havent seen cobalt post in this thread in ages.
Sammy3469
Footballguy
I know you weren't here this past weekend but this had me really
. Girardi did that twice against the Sox and then couldn't use him Sunday night prompting the Martinez HR.Oh and throwing any high strike at the new stadium is beyond stupid (especially to LH hitters). Any ball in the air is a HR.
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I took LT's post to mean it was smart by Girardi last night and dumb by Girardi vs the SoxI know you weren't here this past weekend but this had me really. Girardi did that twice against the Sox and then couldn't use him Sunday night prompting the Martinez HR.Oh and throwing any high strike at the new stadium is beyond stupid (especially to LH hitters). Any ball in the air is a HR.
Reaper
Footballguy
And still, You gotta stay even keeled... Funny to hear the radio guys flip flop like mad - Someone tried to take on Francessa yesterday reminding him how he was going nuts about "How the Yankees don't match up with the Red Sox in so many ways" not too long ago...Truth is... Every Yanks / Sox matchup has been with very different teams due to health, the pitching, the bullpen... Hot streaks.. On and on...I take it all in stride... Yankees could go up by 15 games and, yeah, I'd pencil in the playoffs but, when you get to the playoffs, again, it's all about how your team is playing at that point.. Not now.I find it funy when people post stuff like "If the Yankees don't show me something now, I'm bailing - they better show up against the Sox now or it's all over for me".. REALLY?????What until pitch 1 of the playoffs?One game at a time.
Of course. Im not gonna come in hear and proclaim WS victory or anything. As a matter of fact if we cant beat the Angels it doesnt matter. All Ive been saying is this is a good team that will most likely make the playoffs. Nothing's changed since then. Cobalt hasnt been goin on and on about the many flaws of this team much lately however and I found that funny.
Michael Brown
Footballguy
My wife just texted me that Jeter is hurt. Anybody know what happened?
Liquid Tension
Footballguy
I should restate what i wrote...I didn't mean high strikes, I meant high pitches to make the batter swing at should be centered on the plate. I meant to say throw high pitches out of the strike zone, but when doing that it is more effective when they are centered because the batter is far more likely to "climb the ladder" on a pitch centered rather than on the inside corner or outside corner.thanks for catching that. I will say that you can and still should throw some high strikes though if you throw hard...a lower pitch is easier to catch up to than a high oneI know you weren't here this past weekend but this had me really. Girardi did that twice against the Sox and then couldn't use him Sunday night prompting the Martinez HR.Oh and throwing any high strike at the new stadium is beyond stupid (especially to LH hitters). Any ball in the air is a HR.
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Footballguy
You are correct about the "they don't match up" BS. Some pitchers could match up better against certain teams, but that is more about being heavily lefty or right dominated; the Yankees are pretty balanced.I am so gald Pena is on the team instead of Ransom. I am not so hot on the Hairston move, but I can't say that I have seen a lot of him. Offensively, he is not much, so I hope he can field well. It appears he runs well.Gaudin is OK. He has some movement on his pitches, but it does look like he can be inconsistent. Stuff is OK...and based on his flat slider which does move well, he would do better against righties (Have not looked up stats to substantiate my opinion after watching him for these 2 innings of work). He is better than Tomko
Liquid Tension
Footballguy
It was a curve ball that hit his back (right foot). It must have caught him just right though as he was limping and came out of the game after a few more innings. ARod got hit on his elbow later and was in a lot of pain, but scored the winning run. Finally, Posada got hit on his open hand on a foul tip with nobody on base. Those of you might remember me talking about how stupid it is to keep that hand exposed with nobody on base, but he does and he just paid the price. he did get a big hit in the 11th inning so hopefully he is OK, but why risk it?
Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
I still do not get the Joba / Hughes thing and while Joba may be a good starter I think he has the stuff and demeanor to be an exceptional RP. But it appears I continue to be in the minority on that one.
I'm also very happy that they didn't let down too much after Boston. I thought after they lost the first game that this was going to be a let down series, but they came back and grabbed two, so that's solid. Winning each series is all that matters here from now on in.
The American League is going to have a hell of a September and hopefully they can do enough to get that division lead as close to 9 or 10 as possible going into that month.
I'm also very happy that they didn't let down too much after Boston. I thought after they lost the first game that this was going to be a let down series, but they came back and grabbed two, so that's solid. Winning each series is all that matters here from now on in.
The American League is going to have a hell of a September and hopefully they can do enough to get that division lead as close to 9 or 10 as possible going into that month.
Tremendous Upside
Footballguy
Anyone who thinks this division is over is wrong IMO
Liquid Tension
Footballguy
Over? No, but the Yankees have enough good starters and offense where they should be able to avoid a long slump. Boston showed why they are a good team coming off the sweep from the Yanks they have taken 3 in a row from Detroit. Beckett is a true ace and is one of the best in baseball. Last year Bay was an excellent pickup and while all the "experts" were saying how little they got after dumping Manny, I thought they got themselves a really good player and felt they didn't lose much when you take into account the attitude and fielding. Youkilis has become one of the better hitters in the league as well.Something to think about; Joba's numbers as a reliever in 59 innings59 IP, 39 hits, 11 ER, 20 BB, 78 K's, 1.68 ERAHughes numbers as a reliever (doubled because he only has 31 IP so far)62 IP, 36 Hits, 10 ER, 14 BB, 80 K's, 1.45 ERAYes, he has only pitched half the amount Joba did, but that is impressive
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Tremendous Upside
Footballguy
Maybe not explicitly, but it is definitely in the air, so to speakAnd I have heard it from friends and people on the FAN alsoI wasn't speaking to any one comment, hence the lack of a quote, but to a general attitude I can feel starting to happen
Reaper
Footballguy
What I find funny is I feel it in the air more from the media.... But, they get paid for sensationalism.... This way, in a few weeks or so If the Sox come right back and even things up they could be like "OMG! OMG! OMG!... WHAT A DISASTER THEY HAVE NO SHOT NOW!!!!!111!!!!"A 5.5 game lead is NOTHING. If we had 2 weeks to go I'd be biting my nails.
Ed Wood
Footballguy
Not to mention, Pettitte and Joba were fine and the losing streak is only two. So there wasn't even anything wrong about Ed Wood's post in the first place!Seriously???You choose to start this when your team is the only one looking up at us?
Bogart
Footballguy
I still think the Yanks rotation might be a bit shaky. 43 million just does not buy the arms like it use to.Yeah the comment makes no sense. Their bullpen has been phenomenal since May and just had a rough weekend. Cant really complain too much over a bad few games. If anything Yanks need to improve their rotation.Maybe he typed this in April but didn't click submit til now?Way to improve your bullpen Yanks
Totally agree.
Giantseasonticketholder
Whammy
That's a nice way to start a West Coast trip!
Liquid Tension
Footballguy
A quick review of the game for the many of you who can’t stay up and watch the west coast games…
In the battle of Japan, it was Matsui who came out on top as Godzilla had a monster game (stop groaning) going 4-5 with 2 HR’s and 5 RBI’s. His 2 run homer put the game in a comfort zone with Sabathia on the mound and CC cruised through 8 innings allowing only a short HR.
I had a conversation with someone about Jerry Hairston and how he enjoyed having the flexibility with Hairston on the team. While having flexibility is a good thing, the Yankees are the type of team that needs specialization more than flexibility (if you have to make a choice). What I mean by that is while Hairston can play short, I would much rather Pena plays SS. As a pinch runner, Pena is probably slightly faster as well. While Hairston can play OF, how much of an improvement is he over Damon or Swisher? Some perhaps, but when Gardner comes back I don’t see a role for Hairston. Now I recognize he is hitting almost .400 for us right now, but the guy is a career .700 OPS guy so he is a weak hitter. Again, when Gardner comes back I don’t see a spot for Hairston until the rosters expand and then it would only be for a possible pinch runner or late inning defensive replacement for whoever Gardner and Melky are not in for.
BTW, Melky’s OPS is down to .767 as he has been struggling of late. Gardner is probably a few weeks away as he removed his cast a few days ago.
Boston lost as Justin Verlander shut them down and the Yanks now have a 6.5 game lead on Boston and a 10.5 game lead on TB. With the best record in the majors if the Yanks continued at this winning % the Yanks would win 101 games. If the Yanks go 23-24 in their remaining 47 games, they would win 95 games.
In the battle of Japan, it was Matsui who came out on top as Godzilla had a monster game (stop groaning) going 4-5 with 2 HR’s and 5 RBI’s. His 2 run homer put the game in a comfort zone with Sabathia on the mound and CC cruised through 8 innings allowing only a short HR.
I had a conversation with someone about Jerry Hairston and how he enjoyed having the flexibility with Hairston on the team. While having flexibility is a good thing, the Yankees are the type of team that needs specialization more than flexibility (if you have to make a choice). What I mean by that is while Hairston can play short, I would much rather Pena plays SS. As a pinch runner, Pena is probably slightly faster as well. While Hairston can play OF, how much of an improvement is he over Damon or Swisher? Some perhaps, but when Gardner comes back I don’t see a role for Hairston. Now I recognize he is hitting almost .400 for us right now, but the guy is a career .700 OPS guy so he is a weak hitter. Again, when Gardner comes back I don’t see a spot for Hairston until the rosters expand and then it would only be for a possible pinch runner or late inning defensive replacement for whoever Gardner and Melky are not in for.
BTW, Melky’s OPS is down to .767 as he has been struggling of late. Gardner is probably a few weeks away as he removed his cast a few days ago.
Boston lost as Justin Verlander shut them down and the Yanks now have a 6.5 game lead on Boston and a 10.5 game lead on TB. With the best record in the majors if the Yanks continued at this winning % the Yanks would win 101 games. If the Yanks go 23-24 in their remaining 47 games, they would win 95 games.
flysack
Footballguy
Can't Hairston spell A-Rod at 3B? I thought the main reason they got him was to ditch Cody Ransom (and also add versatility off the bench). Last night was something. You have to love when your B-lineup puts up 11 runs. I know it was against the Mariners (they do have a winning record though), and I know it was against a 2-8 pitcher, but that's pretty nice nonetheless.
This team is starting to feel like the old championship ones.
I say that with a held breath though. I need to see them take a series from the Angels first.
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This is so true. Pitching is really a ####in crapshoot. Just look at the Sox rotation and that was supposed to be the deepest staff in baseball. CrazyHairston is a great bench player. He can play anywhere and he is much faster than pena.
Yanks are a very good team but even their first round matchup vs DET (with Verlander, Jackson, and Washburn) or CHI (with Beurhle, Peavy, and Danks) scares the absolute #### out of me.
Tremendous Upside
Footballguy
Couldn't disagree with you more on Hairston
His versatility is a HUGE asset
You basically get a backup middle infielder, third baseman, outfielder, pinch runner and defensive replacement at the cost of one roster spot. That's a great allocation of resources. Plus, as we get to the end of August and the beginning of September, and especially if we are able to maintain some distance in the race, giving our older players some consistent days off can pay big dividends in October. Hairston gives us the flexibility to do that.
His versatility is a HUGE asset
You basically get a backup middle infielder, third baseman, outfielder, pinch runner and defensive replacement at the cost of one roster spot. That's a great allocation of resources. Plus, as we get to the end of August and the beginning of September, and especially if we are able to maintain some distance in the race, giving our older players some consistent days off can pay big dividends in October. Hairston gives us the flexibility to do that.
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Footballguy
Sure he can spell ARod and he is better than Ransom. But, when Gardner comes back Pena or Hairston would be removed and Pena is more valuable than Hairston.flysack said:
Liquid Tension
Footballguy
??? Not sure about this and wait until he starts to hit like Pena from the right side. Pena has a better glove so the only advantage I see for Hairston is that he can backup many positions, but doesn't do it as well Pena or Gardner/Melky. Hairston is weak at the plate with no upside. Pena has upside and is better defensively at SS (our weakest link). One other note is that the Yankees should get more specialized guys. If Hairston was a lot better on one side of the plate it would add to his value. Pena has hit .324 against righties this year, but can't hit lefties at all. That is good because you could play him when a righty is on the mound. You could also pinch run with him and use him as an excellent defensive replacement.jobarules said:
Bottom line is that I would keep Pena over Hairston.
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Footballguy
Rosters expand soon so specializiatuion is FAR more important than mediocrity everywhere??? Not sure how this isn't seen? I haven't been able to judge his defense yet as to whether it is average, good, very good or excellent, but from what the past scouting reports were it is said that he is a very weak stick, but a decent defender with plus speed. Now that isn;t letting me know how much better he is at CF compared to RF or SS etc...but when rosters expand where exactly is his value? Now, there is a need with Gardner out, but when Gardner comes back I don't see the need?Tremendous Upside said:
Tremendous Upside
Footballguy
Are you related to Ramiro Pena?i have nothing against the guy, and he has his uses, especially defensively, but as a pinch runner he isn't exceptionally fast (I would think Hairston is faster, but that's hard to tell on TV), and that apparently oh so important specialization is in a sample of 71 ABs from the right side...WAAAY to small a sample to draw conclusions from
Pena's minor league lines don't really inspire too much confidence in his bat...His career line is .257/.319/.324. That's pretty putrid.
And if we're talking playoffs, I would be a lot more comfortable with a 12 year veteran than a guy who has 100+ major league Abs
It's hardly the open and shut case you seem to think it is
And versatility is important in the playoffs, as your roster is back to its pre Sept 1st levels
Liquid Tension
Footballguy
I also want to point out the versatility is far more important when you have a weaker team than it is when you have stars at every position who you rarely pinch hit for. To Girardi's credit he will do what Torre would not do and that is take guys out for defensive replacements, but in reality we are only talking about RF and possibly Jeter.
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Footballguy
I can’t remember the last time we won 3 in a row on the start of a west coast trip (I am sure there are plenty of examples)…nicely done.
That being said, Seattle is sleepwalking. If they don’t get excellent pitching, their lineup and defense are very weak (Ishiro did make a nice catch)
A lot in this Saturdays Game:
Cano got a tough error in the 1st inning on a ball he had to charge with Ichiro running. But, the part that had me more ticked off was the laziness on Melky in CF. The groundball was hit on the 2nd base side of up the middle and was a fairly well hit medium chopper (so Cano was running hard toward 3rd base and had to field it on his backhand). When the ball went off his glove and dropped in the middle of SS, 2nd base and CF, Melky was caught flat footed instead of charging hard the whole way and it allowed Ichiro to easily get to 2nd base. Jeter didn’t move toward the ball either, but I blame Melky more for this. Either way, the entire idea of backing up is just in case something happens and it is simply lazy to not do it. The catcher runs down to first base on most grounders just to be close to the play in case a bad throw happens. The catchers do this even though most bad throws get down the right field line anyway…no excuse for Melky who may be sulking because he has been hitting terribly and needs a day off.
Mitre did pretty well (against a weak lineup), but had a bunch of infield hits against him that went off the plate. Jeter also could have turned two on a play but he held the ball.
If you remember I talked about first basemen and the way they field throws from pitchers and catchers and I don’t why they don’t take the throws just like they do from everyone else; stretching toward the thrower? I made this comment a few times in the blog where it didn’t hurt us, but in the 6th inning it did. Texiera didn’t stretch toward the thrower (in this case Mitre on a dribbler) and the runner was just barely safe. If Texiera stretches toward Mitre he is out and this gave the M’s bases loaded with one out instead of 2nd and 3rd and 2 out. To get a picture in your mind, Texiera has his left foot on the bag and his right foot is in the baseline from 1st to 2nd base instead of stepping his right foot forward and stretching. You lose at least 3 feet this way. Also, you can pick up a few inches if your right foot is on the bag and you stretch with your left foot forward (as a righty), but in this case it does limit your ability to field an errant throw and the few inches are not as important as 3 feet. I said it before, I just don’t get it.
Robertson did an excellent job coming in with bases loaded and 1 out and striking out Wilson on a fastball up and CENTERED on the plate. If that pitch was up and in or up and away he might not swing…big pitch and in the correct spot. The bullpen struck out 8 in 3 2/3 innings.
Thank you Seattle…your dropped fly to CF led to 4 runs and Ichiro’s inexplicable boneheaded play gave the Yankees the win. For those of you who didn’t catch this terrible play…The Yankees had been sitting on their 4-1 lead which was now 4-2 in the 7th inning. There were 2 outs and 1st and 2nd with their power hitting first baseman Russell Branyan is at the plate. Coke had fallen behind Branyan with 2 balls out of the strike zone (both curve balls). This is a critical pitch in the game. Coke has to try and come in with a strike and Branyan who has 27 HR’s will be looking to give Seattle a one run lead. Coke throws a fastball (as is expected) but the pitch is outside for ball 3, but Ichiro tries to steal 3rd and is easily gunned down by Molina to end the threat??? If I were a Seattle fan, my head would have exploded. This was one of the worst fundamental errors in judgment I have seen in some time.
Rivera was not sharp in either of these saves and I hope this funk with his arm goes away. A better hitting team would not let him get away with his lack of pin point accuracy he usually shows. To his credit, the Genius Maker found a way to save the two games, although saving a 3 run lead in the 9th is very easy to do.
7.5 up over the Red Sox is great.
That being said, Seattle is sleepwalking. If they don’t get excellent pitching, their lineup and defense are very weak (Ishiro did make a nice catch)
A lot in this Saturdays Game:
Cano got a tough error in the 1st inning on a ball he had to charge with Ichiro running. But, the part that had me more ticked off was the laziness on Melky in CF. The groundball was hit on the 2nd base side of up the middle and was a fairly well hit medium chopper (so Cano was running hard toward 3rd base and had to field it on his backhand). When the ball went off his glove and dropped in the middle of SS, 2nd base and CF, Melky was caught flat footed instead of charging hard the whole way and it allowed Ichiro to easily get to 2nd base. Jeter didn’t move toward the ball either, but I blame Melky more for this. Either way, the entire idea of backing up is just in case something happens and it is simply lazy to not do it. The catcher runs down to first base on most grounders just to be close to the play in case a bad throw happens. The catchers do this even though most bad throws get down the right field line anyway…no excuse for Melky who may be sulking because he has been hitting terribly and needs a day off.
Mitre did pretty well (against a weak lineup), but had a bunch of infield hits against him that went off the plate. Jeter also could have turned two on a play but he held the ball.
If you remember I talked about first basemen and the way they field throws from pitchers and catchers and I don’t why they don’t take the throws just like they do from everyone else; stretching toward the thrower? I made this comment a few times in the blog where it didn’t hurt us, but in the 6th inning it did. Texiera didn’t stretch toward the thrower (in this case Mitre on a dribbler) and the runner was just barely safe. If Texiera stretches toward Mitre he is out and this gave the M’s bases loaded with one out instead of 2nd and 3rd and 2 out. To get a picture in your mind, Texiera has his left foot on the bag and his right foot is in the baseline from 1st to 2nd base instead of stepping his right foot forward and stretching. You lose at least 3 feet this way. Also, you can pick up a few inches if your right foot is on the bag and you stretch with your left foot forward (as a righty), but in this case it does limit your ability to field an errant throw and the few inches are not as important as 3 feet. I said it before, I just don’t get it.
Robertson did an excellent job coming in with bases loaded and 1 out and striking out Wilson on a fastball up and CENTERED on the plate. If that pitch was up and in or up and away he might not swing…big pitch and in the correct spot. The bullpen struck out 8 in 3 2/3 innings.
Thank you Seattle…your dropped fly to CF led to 4 runs and Ichiro’s inexplicable boneheaded play gave the Yankees the win. For those of you who didn’t catch this terrible play…The Yankees had been sitting on their 4-1 lead which was now 4-2 in the 7th inning. There were 2 outs and 1st and 2nd with their power hitting first baseman Russell Branyan is at the plate. Coke had fallen behind Branyan with 2 balls out of the strike zone (both curve balls). This is a critical pitch in the game. Coke has to try and come in with a strike and Branyan who has 27 HR’s will be looking to give Seattle a one run lead. Coke throws a fastball (as is expected) but the pitch is outside for ball 3, but Ichiro tries to steal 3rd and is easily gunned down by Molina to end the threat??? If I were a Seattle fan, my head would have exploded. This was one of the worst fundamental errors in judgment I have seen in some time.
Rivera was not sharp in either of these saves and I hope this funk with his arm goes away. A better hitting team would not let him get away with his lack of pin point accuracy he usually shows. To his credit, the Genius Maker found a way to save the two games, although saving a 3 run lead in the 9th is very easy to do.
7.5 up over the Red Sox is great.
Liquid Tension
Footballguy
The Giants beat NE 20-11 tonight!
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Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Would have been 21 if Swisher hadn't dogged it around 3rd.
Giantseasonticketholder
Whammy
They did what they had to do. Winning 1 game this weekend was big because they can't leave worse than 5.5 up. Now taking 1 of the next 2 will be even better!!
I hope they saved some runs for this afternoon.
I hope they saved some runs for this afternoon.
Liquid Tension
Footballguy
The matchup for today is in our favor as well. the Sunday night game is the battle of the best
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
They can take Hinske out of left field any time now.
T
The Ghost of Common
Guest
Oof. Burnett could be the most inconsistent pitcher in the Yankee rotation (a complete headcase too). What was his contract?
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Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
T
The Ghost of Common
Guest
Seriously, how long before they pull the plug on this Burnett experiment? There isn't an oof big enough for that brutal contract.
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Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Go outside. Enjoy the weather. Your act is stale.
T
The Ghost of Common
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Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Well.... color me jealous. I might need to play a round with Alvaro Espinoza to get even.I did. Just played a round of golf with Lou Merloni.
T
The Ghost of Common
Guest
Who's that now?
