Because GDP has nothing to do with quality of life.Woah, Nellie! Why so much hostility?
Pssst...I’m just playing devil’s advocate in response to TripItUp’s post - I think the US ain’t bad, but probably not the best in what truly matters.Because GDP has nothing to do with quality of life.
I am disappointed that this country can't take care of their own.
Nope sry.Pssst...I’m just playing devil’s advocate in response to TripItUp’s post - I think the US ain’t bad, but probably not the best in what truly matters.
Did you not notice my other posts before resorting to name calling?
Because GDP has nothing to do with quality of life.
I am disappointed that this country can't take care of their own.
Why would you have to feel superior to be proud of your country? I don't why you wouldn't be able to have one without the other. In fact, I think they are two entirely different things.Feeling any sense of superiority because of it would be something I can't relate to.
? I’m not sure what you are going for here. The enlisted get paid pretty damn well, retirees get paid pretty good as well.How can we spend so much on the military are our enlisted and veterans get so little?
I didn't say you did?Why would you have to feel superior to be proud of your country? I don't why you wouldn't be able to have one without the other. In fact, I think they are two entirely different things.
Ok. Guess I missuderstood what you were saying.matuski said:I didn't say you did?
All those words and you never managed to answer the question...So you said my America. I'm looking for my America. In my America we live up to our obligations to our veterans. In my America the poor in Alabama don't live like they are in the 3rd world. In my America we don't stand by while children drink lead infused water. In my America we don't help people who fund those that attacks us commit genocide. In my America we open our doors to the downtrodden and refugees because we know that doing so makes us stronger, not weaker. In my America no man is above the law. In my America we don't commit war crimes as national policy. In my America we don't spy on ourselves. In my America we aren't afraid.
It's been a long time since I've seen my America. I hope I find her soon. The world really needs her.
Actually I did.All those words and you never managed to answer the question...
Did you just assume America’s gender?It's been a long time since I've seen my America. I hope I find her soon. The world really needs her.
No, you didn't. It was a simple "Are you proud of America" question. You posted a nice diatribe, but never gave a yes, no, partially, etc.Actually I did.
I can't answer all of those, and agree with a few (big fan of the Rule of Law here) but...So you said my America. I'm looking for my America. In my America we live up to our obligations to our veterans. In my America the poor in Alabama don't live like they are in the 3rd world. In my America we don't stand by while children drink lead infused water. In my America we don't help people who fund those that attacks us commit genocide. In my America we open our doors to the downtrodden and refugees because we know that doing so makes us stronger, not weaker. In my America no man is above the law. In my America we don't commit war crimes as national policy. In my America we don't spy on ourselves. In my America we aren't afraid.
It's been a long time since I've seen my America. I hope I find her soon. The world really needs her.
Did Australia step in when Iraq invaded Kuwait? Is Australia taking the fight on terrorism to the door of the terrorist? And besides, the model for the other 100+ countries who have a democratic society is ours.I recently traveled in Europe for two months. First trip there and met many people from throughout the world. I was apologetic when needed for our current administration. I was asked by an Australian why America was considered to be the world's defender of democracy. I do not think that question would have been debatable before. People have forgotten what America did to rebuild the world after WW 2.
Again, what does that have to do with the actions of the US military and all these dead babies you blurted out from your morning talking points?Yes you are butt hurt, you did the equivalent of taking your ball and going home by telling me to leave.
But I will give it to the good ole US of A. They just don't make poor people grovel and hope for health insurance, they make 9/11 first responders beg too. Proud times.
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/cross-check/where-is-outcry-over-children-killed-by-u-s-led-forces/
And yet the military still tries to deny treatment for PTSD and we have 40k homeless veterans.I can't answer all of those, and agree with a few (big fan of the Rule of Law here) but...
Trump signs the largest VA budget ever
Flint’s lead levels have tested well below the federal action level of 15 parts per billion since 2017
The United States has more immigrants than any other country in the world.
OK, so there are many things you apparently don't like about the USA right now. Are there any things you like? If so, why post only about the negatives? If not, why not move to another country you like better?So you said my America. I'm looking for my America. In my America we live up to our obligations to our veterans. In my America the poor in Alabama don't live like they are in the 3rd world. In my America we don't stand by while children drink lead infused water. In my America we don't help people who fund those that attacks us commit genocide. In my America we open our doors to the downtrodden and refugees because we know that doing so makes us stronger, not weaker. In my America no man is above the law. In my America we don't commit war crimes as national policy. In my America we don't spy on ourselves. In my America we aren't afraid.
It's been a long time since I've seen my America. I hope I find her soon. The world really needs her.
Ah the old love it or leave it. Running away doesn't help fix anything.OK, so there are many things you apparently don't like about the USA right now. Are there any things you like? If so, why post only about the negatives? If not, why not move to another country you like better?
I always wonder why Flint gets all the press. Michigan had 22 counties that tested for higher levels of lead in the water than Flint and that never gets mentioned. It is always Flint when talking about the lead in the water.And yet the military still tries to deny treatment for PTSD and we have 40k homeless veterans.
Flint is the tip of the iceberg as we have dozens of communities where we have found high lead levels amongst other contaminants.
As to immigrants what we are doing to those seeking asylum is abhorrent. Our system is broken and kick the can down the road by both parties has brought us here.
Yeah I was using Flint as shorthand for what is really a very widespread problem affecting a huge number of communities.I always wonder why Flint gets all the press. Michigan had 22 counties that tested for higher levels of lead in the water than Flint and that never gets mentioned. It is always Flint when talking about the lead in the water.
Yeah, okay. I don't think anyone is arguing that America is perfect.And yet the military still tries to deny treatment for PTSD and we have 40k homeless veterans.
Flint is the tip of the iceberg as we have dozens of communities where we have found high lead levels amongst other contaminants.
As to immigrants what we are doing to those seeking asylum is abhorrent. Our system is broken and kick the can down the road by both parties has brought us here.
No, I get it. Just wonder why nationally they only talk about Flint when the problem is widespread.Yeah I was using Flint as shorthand for what is really a very widespread problem affecting a huge number of communities.
Flints stands a good chance of being what history will underline as a prime example when discussing this era of institutional malfeasanceNo, I get it. Just wonder why nationally they only talk about Flint when the problem is widespread.
The "best" part about our country is this: you want to rest on your laurels? Fine, you can do that. You want to push the envelope and achieve greatness? You can also do that. It is up to you.Love my country. Find it laughable to think it’s so simple to say it’s the “best”. I love France. I love Germany. I haven’t seen many countries yet. So I don’t know whether we are the best.
With that said, I’m deeply ashamed at how we’ve dropped the ball on being a leader. As I drove through Germany, I saw solar panels on 200 year old buildings. As i walked through France, I saw beautiful parks with awesome works of art. And people enjoying it all. Can I say we are better than that? No.
I am proud of my country but see it as nothing unusual anymore, as we choose to rest on our laurels.
sort of like the founding fathers did when they did not like english rule they just left and went to mars or something i guess take that to the bank brohansOK, so there are many things you apparently don't like about the USA right now. Are there any things you like? If so, why post only about the negatives? If not, why not move to another country you like better?
i would bet that a lot of the run down cities in el franceo and deutschland are just the same as run down cities in america same stuff different continents look not every city is going to be mealyawalkee no matter where you roam that is all i am sayin take that to the bank bromigoDoes rural Alabama and Mississippi or the run down cities of the Rust belt compare to France and Germany? No, of course not. But our greatest is still at the top of the charts, we are just bigger and more diverse is all. I think that makes us better, not worse.
You didn’t answer my question. Are there things you like about the USA today? If so, what are they?Ah the old love it or leave it. Running away doesn't help fix anything.
if you make SWC speak in complete sentences, j-dub, ima REALLY hate this country and you can take that to the Esperanto Savings & LoanYou didn’t answer my question. Are there things you like about the USA today? If so, what are they?
My reply was to @NCCommishif you make SWC speak in complete sentences, j-dub, ima REALLY hate this country and you can take that to the Esperanto Savings & Loan
Not to get all PoliForum on us, but I agree with all of this and I've voted 90% Republican (did NOT vote for Trump).I love my country and am happy to live here.
That being said, I think Trump is seriously damaging our country's political position with his asinine tweets and screw you mentality.
Hopefully things will improve at the next election.
The not so great parts you mentioned are over-represented in the Senate and the Electoral College, which is a problem.Jayrod said:We have NYC, which is right on par with Paris. We also have Silicon Valley which is an area greater than anything Germany has technologically. We have National Parks that are arguably greater than anything you can find around Europe (Yellowstone & the Grand Canyon just to name two). Does rural Alabama and Mississippi or the run down cities of the Rust belt compare to France and Germany? No, of course not. But our greatest is still at the top of the charts, we are just bigger and more diverse is all. I think that makes us better, not worse.
uh, competition substantially limited...i am really proud of the us womens soccer team right now bromigos they kick butt for the us of a take that to the bank
so you disagree with a representative govt...and would prefer california and new york tell the rest of us what to do....The not so great parts you mentioned are over-represented in the Senate and the Electoral College, which is a problem.
Your first 2 sentences were spot on. But expecting things to get better with such a person running the country is not realistic.I love my country and am happy to live here.
That being said, I think Trump is seriously damaging our country's political position with his asinine tweets and screw you mentality.
Hopefully things will improve at the next election.
FYI. I am an independent who has historically voted ~50/50 b/w Dems/Reps.