Online poker is back in the US, a start? (1 Viewer)

[RCon]

You must hate Sheldon Adelson, then. I assume you will also be against his bought and paid for GOP Presidential nominee in 2016. Jeb Bush, Scott Walker, Chris Christie and John Kasich are all in Vegas sucking his toes for money.

I haven't really spent any time considering Sheldon Anderson. If he's lobbying to keep gambling and online gambling illegal, then I disagree with his views. I don't particularly know anything about the views regarding gambling's legality held by Jeb Bush, Scott Walker, or John Kasich. I do know that Chris Christie has fought pretty hard to expand legalized gambling within the state of New Jersey. I applaud him for that effort.

 

[Todd Andrews]

You must hate Sheldon Adelson, then. I assume you will also be against his bought and paid for GOP Presidential nominee in 2016. Jeb Bush, Scott Walker, Chris Christie and John Kasich are all in Vegas sucking his toes for money.

I haven't really spent any time considering Sheldon Anderson. If he's lobbying to keep gambling and online gambling illegal, then I disagree with his views. I don't particularly know anything about the views regarding gambling's legality held by Jeb Bush, Scott Walker, or John Kasich. I do know that Chris Christie has fought pretty hard to expand legalized gambling within the state of New Jersey. I applaud him for that effort.

Do you think Christie will hold the same views if he accepts $100 million plus from Adelson in the 2016 Presidential race like Newt Gingrich did in 2012?

 

[RCon]

You must hate Sheldon Adelson, then. I assume you will also be against his bought and paid for GOP Presidential nominee in 2016. Jeb Bush, Scott Walker, Chris Christie and John Kasich are all in Vegas sucking his toes for money.

I haven't really spent any time considering Sheldon Anderson. If he's lobbying to keep gambling and online gambling illegal, then I disagree with his views. I don't particularly know anything about the views regarding gambling's legality held by Jeb Bush, Scott Walker, or John Kasich. I do know that Chris Christie has fought pretty hard to expand legalized gambling within the state of New Jersey. I applaud him for that effort.

Do you think Christie will hold the same views if he accepts $100 million plus from Adelson in the 2016 Presidential race like Newt Gingrich did in 2012?

I don't know. If he does change his views, I imagine it would be pretty difficult for him to deflect campaign attacks of being a flip-flopper, given that the expansion of legalized gambling under his administration is pretty well documented.

Even if we assume that he would be willing to change his views based on campaign contributions, I suspect his campaign team knows that it would be quite difficult to mount a successful defense against flip-flop attacks. They might well conclude that the negative political repercussions of flip-flopping outweigh the benefits of the money.

I do know that it's pretty disingenuous of you to constantly attack GOP politicians for sucking up to potential campaign contributors, but ignore that Democrat politicians do the same thing. It is particularly disingenuous to do so while claiming to be an "independent".

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

PPA's response to the new bill

The backer of the efforts to ban online poker is Sheldon Adelson, CEO of the Venetian Casino.

Bill sponsors:

Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC)

Congressman Jason Chaffetz (R-UT)

cosponsored by:

Senators

Dianne Feinstein (D-CA)

Mike Lee (R-UT)

Kelly Ayotte (R-NH)

Representatives

Tulsi Gabbard (D-HI)

Jim Matheson (D-UT)

Lamar Smith (R-TX)

Jim Jordan (R-OH)

Trent Franks (R-AZ)

George Holding (R-NC)

Frank Wolf (R-VA)

James Lankford (R-OK)

Emanuel Cleaver (D-MO)

Also in favor of a ban:

Governors

Rick Perry (R-TX)

Nikki Haley (R-SC)

Bobby Jindal (R-LA)

People who have come out against it:

Democratic Governors Association

Peter Shumlin (D-VT)

Maggie Hassan (D-NH)

Congressman Joe Barton (R-TX)

Senator Robert Menendez (D-NJ)

Senators Dean Heller (R-NV) and House Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) support online poker while but also are in favor of expanding the Wire Act to include non-poker wagering activities.

This Sheldon Adelson guy really sucks.

 

[Nipsey]

They're putting the finishing touches on YouTeller as we speak. Once that's up and running all will be well again. If there was only a way to play online until then. oh, hold on, just flopped an open ended SF draw in this $33 double up.

 

[Premier]

What is youteller?

 

[Nipsey]

What is youteller?

Like neteller but you have the power.

 

[Sweet J]

PPA's response to the new bill

This Sheldon Adelson guy really sucks.

Just being a devil's advocate here: Is is Adelson who sucks? I mean, he's only doing what is in his company's best interest (assuming, of course, it is in his financial best interest to stop online gaming). Aren't the ones who suck here really the politicians? They are supposed to do what is "best" for the country (or at least, their district). In particular, the R's suck because they are theoretically the proponents of the Free Market. And D's suck because they are theoretically proponents of liberal "social policies." Adelson is just trying to make (keep) a buck or two bazillion.

 

[Drunken Cowboy]

PPA's response to the new bill

This Sheldon Adelson guy really sucks.

Just being a devil's advocate here: Is is Adelson who sucks? I mean, he's only doing what is in his company's best interest (assuming, of course, it is in his financial best interest to stop online gaming). Aren't the ones who suck here really the politicians? They are supposed to do what is "best" for the country (or at least, their district). In particular, the R's suck because they are theoretically the proponents of the Free Market. And D's suck because they are theoretically proponents of liberal "social policies." Adelson is just trying to make (keep) a buck or two bazillion.

They all suck.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

PPA's response to the new bill

This Sheldon Adelson guy really sucks.

Just being a devil's advocate here: Is is Adelson who sucks? I mean, he's only doing what is in his company's best interest (assuming, of course, it is in his financial best interest to stop online gaming). Aren't the ones who suck here really the politicians? They are supposed to do what is "best" for the country (or at least, their district). In particular, the R's suck because they are theoretically the proponents of the Free Market. And D's suck because they are theoretically proponents of liberal "social policies." Adelson is just trying to make (keep) a buck or two bazillion.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/02/sheldon-adelson-internet-jihad-103461.html

Adelson has said he will spend whatever it takes— he is worth an estimated $37 billion and his earnings dwarf those of all other gaming companies—embarking last fall on what a rival calls a “jihad” to stop Internet wagering and threatening to use his ample political muscle as the country’s largest GOP donor to stop what many think is unstoppable.

if he said he'll spend "whatever it takes" to stop it, not sure he's that concerned about making money.

 

[TxBuckeye]

Is it ever is legalized again, how many of you think you'll go back to playing? As Nipsey mentioned above, you can still play. I put a little money in to Carbon Poker using a prepaid Visa a few weeks ago. It was easy. But within a week, I cashed out. I quickly realized it had jumped the shark for me. I was shocked, because I used to LOVE playing online. But after the long, long layoff, the lack of site variety, lack of bonuses and rakeback, etc, it just didn't hold my interest in the least. I wonder if I am an anomaly,or if others will feel the same way? I guess for me, the government already got what they wanted.

 

[lod01]

PPA's response to the new bill

This Sheldon Adelson guy really sucks.

Just being a devil's advocate here: Is is Adelson who sucks? I mean, he's only doing what is in his company's best interest (assuming, of course, it is in his financial best interest to stop online gaming). Aren't the ones who suck here really the politicians? They are supposed to do what is "best" for the country (or at least, their district). In particular, the R's suck because they are theoretically the proponents of the Free Market. And D's suck because they are theoretically proponents of liberal "social policies." Adelson is just trying to make (keep) a buck or two bazillion.

They all suck.

Yep but we only need one of them to keel over and die. Then the rest will look for $ elsewhere.

 

[StrikeS2k]

anyone get their money back from Full Tilt yet?

Got an e-mail about this from some law firm that is apparently in charge of distributing the money for the government. In order to get your money back you have to give them your bank account routing information and let them direct deposit it. Mind you, this isn't the actual government which would be bad enough but some law firm in NY that you've never heard of. You cannot get a check or debit card sent. The only option is giving them your bank account information. Sorry, I don't need the few hundred that much.

 

[UniAlias]

Is it ever is legalized again, how many of you think you'll go back to playing? As Nipsey mentioned above, you can still play. I put a little money in to Carbon Poker using a prepaid Visa a few weeks ago. It was easy. But within a week, I cashed out. I quickly realized it had jumped the shark for me. I was shocked, because I used to LOVE playing online. But after the long, long layoff, the lack of site variety, lack of bonuses and rakeback, etc, it just didn't hold my interest in the least. I wonder if I am an anomaly,or if others will feel the same way? I guess for me, the government already got what they wanted.

I think if it were legalized you would see companies pour a ton of money into advertising and promotions, which would entice many new and/or below average players to get into it. I don't think it would be as lucrative as 2003 but would definitely be a huge improvement over the action going on today.

 

[Hooper31]

Is it ever is legalized again, how many of you think you'll go back to playing?

If fully legalized I think its a potential feeding frenzy for the serious players. Given the chance to multitable 20 tables at the 0.50 -1.00 stakes I'm all over it again. I really miss my second income.

 

[TxBuckeye]

Is it ever is legalized again, how many of you think you'll go back to playing?

If fully legalized I think its a potential feeding frenzy for the serious players. Given the chance to multitable 20 tables at the 0.50 -1.00 stakes I'm all over it again. I really miss my second income.

This was never me. I probably played two or three tables to clear a bonus. But I was in it for enjoyment as much as the money. I certainly wouldn't call it a second income, though there were some good years. If I'm not enjoying it, I'm not going to be playing. It was just a hobby.

 

[tjnc09]

I play on Bovada regularly. Payouts have always been very quick in the US

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Is it ever is legalized again, how many of you think you'll go back to playing? As Nipsey mentioned above, you can still play. I put a little money in to Carbon Poker using a prepaid Visa a few weeks ago. It was easy. But within a week, I cashed out. I quickly realized it had jumped the shark for me. I was shocked, because I used to LOVE playing online. But after the long, long layoff, the lack of site variety, lack of bonuses and rakeback, etc, it just didn't hold my interest in the least. I wonder if I am an anomaly,or if others will feel the same way? I guess for me, the government already got what they wanted.

if it was open to more players and was easier for people to deposit money, the games would be easier to beat. plus there's be a lot more promotions trying to lure people in.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

anyone get their money back from Full Tilt yet?

Got an e-mail about this from some law firm that is apparently in charge of distributing the money for the government. In order to get your money back you have to give them your bank account routing information and let them direct deposit it. Mind you, this isn't the actual government which would be bad enough but some law firm in NY that you've never heard of. You cannot get a check or debit card sent. The only option is giving them your bank account information. Sorry, I don't need the few hundred that much.

I gave my info.

it's the same info that's on any check you've ever written.

 

[Nipsey]

anyone get their money back from Full Tilt yet?

Got an e-mail about this from some law firm that is apparently in charge of distributing the money for the government. In order to get your money back you have to give them your bank account routing information and let them direct deposit it. Mind you, this isn't the actual government which would be bad enough but some law firm in NY that you've never heard of. You cannot get a check or debit card sent. The only option is giving them your bank account information. Sorry, I don't need the few hundred that much.

I gave my info.

it's the same info that's on any check you've ever written.

hags, buddy. remember to find the biggest guy the first day you get there and kick his ###.

 

[johnadams]

Signed up for Poker Host recently and they promptly asked for copies of front/back of my credit card, front of DL or passport, and one utility bill. Not sure if they are legit, but I'm willing to let my fifty go into the ether as a bad lesson learned rather than give them the main elements of a nice ID theft.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

anyone get their money back from Full Tilt yet?

Got an e-mail about this from some law firm that is apparently in charge of distributing the money for the government. In order to get your money back you have to give them your bank account routing information and let them direct deposit it. Mind you, this isn't the actual government which would be bad enough but some law firm in NY that you've never heard of. You cannot get a check or debit card sent. The only option is giving them your bank account information. Sorry, I don't need the few hundred that much.

I gave my info.

it's the same info that's on any check you've ever written.

hags, buddy. remember to find the biggest guy the first day you get there and kick his ###.

email finally received today:

Dear AARON RUDNICKI:

The purpose of this email is to inform you that your Petition for Remission has been approved and you are entitled to receive a distribution from the assets forfeited in connection with United States v. PokerStars, et al., pending in the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York.

A payment in the amount of $XXX.XX will be paid electronically via ACH to the bank account that you specified in your Petition. This payment represents the full amount of your Full Tilt Poker Account Balance, which you confirmed on the Full Tilt Poker administration online filing site. Payment will be made within the next seven business days.

If you have any questions, you can call us toll-free at (866) 250-2640 FREE, email us at info@FullTiltPokerClaims.com, or write to us at Full Tilt Poker Claims Administration, c/o GCG, P.O. Box 9965, Dublin, Ohio 43017-5965. For additional information you may also visit the administration website at www.FullTiltPokerClaims.com.

WE DID IT?!

 

[Otis]

Nice score.

 

[Capella]

so can we play poker again

 

[The Ref]

You can play poker now and have been able to all along. I recommend Bovada.lv.

 

[The Ref]

That being said the game has completely changed in the past 4 years. You are basically playing against computers 50% of the time.

Every now and again I'll deposit $300 and try and run it up and cash out for a quick score.

 

[eoMMan]

That being said the game has completely changed in the past 4 years. You are basically playing against computers 50% of the time.

Every now and again I'll deposit $300 and try and run it up and cash out for a quick score.

Really that many bots playing?

What bothered me were all the programs players used in conjunction with the game that helped them get notes/stats on players. I know it's technically not cheating but it definitely gave them an advantage. It made it all much lamer than playing against people in person.

 

[eoMMan]

Ref, do you play much live at the casinos?

I saw the Isle in Pompano Beach now has the MAP poker game where you're playing two hands at once at the same table with two dealers and two sets of decks. I might check it out one of these days.

 

[fdas2]

anyone get their money back from Full Tilt yet?

Got an e-mail about this from some law firm that is apparently in charge of distributing the money for the government. In order to get your money back you have to give them your bank account routing information and let them direct deposit it. Mind you, this isn't the actual government which would be bad enough but some law firm in NY that you've never heard of. You cannot get a check or debit card sent. The only option is giving them your bank account information. Sorry, I don't need the few hundred that much.

I gave my info.

it's the same info that's on any check you've ever written.

hags, buddy. remember to find the biggest guy the first day you get there and kick his ###.

email finally received today:

Dear AARON RUDNICKI:

The purpose of this email is to inform you that your Petition for Remission has been approved and you are entitled to receive a distribution from the assets forfeited in connection with United States v. PokerStars, et al., pending in the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York.

A payment in the amount of $XXX.XX will be paid electronically via ACH to the bank account that you specified in your Petition. This payment represents the full amount of your Full Tilt Poker Account Balance, which you confirmed on the Full Tilt Poker administration online filing site. Payment will be made within the next seven business days.

If you have any questions, you can call us toll-free at (866) 250-2640 FREE, email us at info@FullTiltPokerClaims.com, or write to us at Full Tilt Poker Claims Administration, c/o GCG, P.O. Box 9965, Dublin, Ohio 43017-5965. For additional information you may also visit the administration website at www.FullTiltPokerClaims.com.

WE DID IT?!

Got an email yesterday also. It's not for the full amount I'm owed, slightly less than half, but I had long ago written it off as a sunk cost.

 

[The Ref]

That being said the game has completely changed in the past 4 years. You are basically playing against computers 50% of the time.

Every now and again I'll deposit $300 and try and run it up and cash out for a quick score.

Really that many bots playing?What bothered me were all the programs players used in conjunction with the game that helped them get notes/stats on players. I know it's technically not cheating but it definitely gave them an advantage. It made it all much lamer than playing against people in person.

Tons of Bots

The Huds are why I like Bovada.

 

[The Ref]

Ref, do you play much live at the casinos?

I saw the Isle in Pompano Beach now has the MAP poker game where you're playing two hands at once at the same table with two dealers and two sets of decks. I might check it out one of these days.

Yes I do. I've been at the Isle since they installed the MAP tables but haven't had the pleasure as of yet. Seems like a gimmick but I'm sure I'll give it a shot soon.

 

[IC FBGCav]

Looks like global poker found a loophole for real money play.  They even take paypal.

No huds or hand histories either.

 

[Otis]

 

 

[Otis]

Rules -- thanks for the PSA Cav.  I'm on right now, like 5 mins after registering, playing NL cash games.  Totally rules.  Has to be almost 10 years since I did this. 

 

[GROOT]

Someone explain what is Global Poker doing?

 

[James Daulton]

Someone explain what is Global Poker doing?

Chances of getting paid?

 

[GROOT]

Chances of getting paid?

coins?

 

[James Daulton]

Holy #### I'm playing now.  Of course with gold coins...

 

[GROOT]

Holy #### I'm playing now.  Of course with gold coins...

i don't get it. You just buy gold coins...and cash out gold coins? And why does it say 2 dollars on acct.?

 

[trogg78]

I'm in!

 

[James Daulton]

It's gold coins for gods sake.  What more valuable do you want?

 

[SHIZNITTTT]

playing 

 

[James Daulton]

Where's Oats?

 

[Mr. Pickles]

Rules -- thanks for the PSA Cav.  I'm on right now, like 5 mins after registering, playing NL cash games.  Totally rules.  Has to be almost 10 years since I did this. 

I'm sure this will end well. 

 

[gianmarco]

How long until he loses $70,000 online like he did at blackjack? Can he beat that record? 

Wanted to try and bump it to his signature role?

 

[Otis]

Where's Oats?

In 30 minutes ran $500 up to $3k and then had to go out to dinner.  Jumping on now....

 

[Capella]

You guys just dump your money into anything? The same guy running that site is probably sending email scams to your Aunt tonight. 

 

[Otis]

Someone explain this to me.  How do their gold coins convert to cash?  I put in $500, which I think bought me $250k in their goofy gold coins.  I'm at about 30 million gold coins now.  How much money do I have here???

 

[Capella]

Cashing out requires some information about yourself. You will need to provide photo proof of identification and proof of address

 oh 

 

[Capella]

Someone explain this to me.  How do their gold coins convert to cash?  I put in $500, which I think bought me $250k in their goofy gold coins.  I'm at about 30 million gold coins now.  How much money do I have here???

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