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Opening line: Colts 6.5 point underdogs against the Pats (1 Viewer)
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right now if these two teams were to play 10 times on a neutral field, I think NE wins 8 maybe 9 of them......
I don't think home field will be as much of a factor as people think........
I think the number is about right....
31-24 NE
I don't think home field will be as much of a factor as people think........
I think the number is about right....
31-24 NE
NE by less than a TD? Anything less than a TD might as well be a money line bet. Get a second mortgage and put it on this one.
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
Sigmund Bloom said:
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
I hate NE as much as the next guy, but they're a huge bargain at +6.5.
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
I tend to agree. What will be interesting is how hard the opening line gets pounded and where the spread ends up at kickoff.I wouldn't be shocked to see it move a full point, or even get to 8 by SundaySigmund Bloom said:
Koya
Footballguy
Because they are the singular most dominant team many of us have EVER witnessed over 1/2 of a season.
DinkinFlicka
Footballguy
Why is New England better? They have Randy Moss.
It's pointless to talk about margin of victory in terms of points for the Patriots the way they are playing right now - you talk about it in terms of touchdowns instead, and thats why a 6.5 point line is a joke. Keep in mind that the Cowboys actually played them pretty close for three quarters, and even took the lead in the third, and the Pats STILL beat them by three TDs. This is also a team that has shown no willingness to let up when they get a lead, and they certainly wont let up on the Colts. It's hard to picture the Pats winning and it being by less than two TDs. Either the Colts grind out a win in a tight game, or the Pats win going away - I dont see an in between outcome - and the Colts will have to be near perfect on offense and defense to get that win.
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Loan Sharks
Not a Wolf
Take the Colts to win.....seriously. Pats are good but incredibly overrated.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
IMO, the Pats barely lost the AFC title game (with a lot of people sick with the flu) but have since added a boatload of talent while the Colts lost a boatload of talent. Comparing the teams each side has faced, IMO the Pats played the next two hardest teams on either teams schedule (DAL and SD) and blew them out. I don't really care that all the other teams were below average. IND overall has had a harder schedule, but I think the Pats played the two toughest other foes to date.
Pats are -5 on sportsinteraction.com
twitch
Footballguy
here's why. when NE lost in the 2nd half of the AFC title game, the following people didnt play -Roosevelt ColvinRodney HarrisonRichard Seymour Eugene Wilson (actually, he may be quest.)Junior SeauRandy MossDonte StallworthWes WelkerAdalius Thomasand Laurence Maroney was banged up with the very injury that forced him out until week 4 of the preseason. and basically, he was worthless because of it. These guys will all play this year, and they'll all be healthy. Just adding Moss alone helps. I just listed 9 guys there. Its why theyve been killing the league this year, and its why they'll kill the Colts next week.
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dickey moe
Fingerpicker
I'm seeing Colts +5 to +5.5 at most of the sites I've visited this afternoon.
harrycarey
Footballguy
Who? Aside from Tarik Glenn and Booger, I think they upgraded in the other areas.Jackson/Hayden >> Harper/David
Keiaho > or = June
Stokley was always hurt and Gonzo just hasn't been needed
Rhodes doesn't hurt with Addai getting more carries
TommyGilmore
Footballguy
New England has beat the spread every single week. I would not bet against that streak.
Tanner9919
Footballguy
could be a hell of a game, hard hitting, tough defense on both ends..the Colts are no pushovers, and they beat the Pats in the Championship Game last year..although,saying that, the Colts WERE down ,what, 20-0 before a late first half score by the Colts? if NE can score 50 this weekend, they will..the hatred between these teams is boiling..but, if you really need to know, I'm betting NE scores 70 against the Jets and Man-genius in the rematch at NE...I feel bad for Jets fans, that game is going to be perhaps the most lopsided score in NFL history..hell hath no fury like Bellichick scorned..LOLKoya said:
Giant Wooden Badger
the Beav
The Pats are going to do to the Colts what they've been doing to everyone else all season. Only 6.5 is a gift.
The Man Who Met Andy Griffith
Footballguy
I swore off sports betting about ten years ago, but this is incredibly tempting. So tempting it smells like a sucker bet. Nonetheless, I see the Pats crushing this spread. I would not be remotely surprised to see the Pats leading by 21 after the first quarter.
purestrength
Footballguy
Max won't need luck. He'll have Peyton Manning on his side.A lot of you are forgetting how deep Peyton is in Belichick's head and no amount of cheating can remove him (barring a Nancy Kerrigan hit this week).If Marvin plays at full strength, Colts probably win. And if Vegas is giving the Colts six points, take all the money out of your savings account, empty your piggy bank and steal all the cash out of your wife's purse and put it on the Colts. You won't be sorry and your wife might even thank you later.
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ThePittbully
Footballguy
the line opened at -4 and I put my whole bankroll on it
Burning Sensation
Footballguy
Unload on the Pats, this is the last game they will be giving less than double digit points. After they dismantle the Colts this week and cover the spread for a 9th straight week the bookies are going to put a stop to it. I wouldnt be suprised to see the Pats give 23-25 points a coule times over the next 5-6 weeks.
jurb26
Footballguy
Better ask Joe for a bonus. You'll need it to cover the apartment cost until you can afford another house.Kidding aside. I think this game will be a big let down for all the hype it will receive. Games like this almost always are. Unlike years past, NE has better weapons on the outside and Moss' speed in that dome vs a basic cover 2 is a recipe for disaster IMO. Either he will get behind this D often or the middle of the field will be open all day long. NE in a rather convincing fashion. 45-24... the legend grows.Sigmund Bloom said:
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Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
It's hilarious that Indy is being overshadowed in this game. The only difference between these two teams is that the Colts aren't scoring 50 PPG merely to display the size of their collective male appendages. And make no mistake... Indy could do so if they felt like it.
The Colts are the play here. Buy them up to +7 if it makes you feel better, but you probably won't need it.
The Colts are the play here. Buy them up to +7 if it makes you feel better, but you probably won't need it.
purestrength
Footballguy
Hooray, someone who actually "gets it."I have a feeling we won't be seeing some of these posters next week after they gamble their money away on the Patriots. They'll need to sell their computers to try to pay off their monetary losses.
Initial Money Line I saw.NE -270 Indy +210I for one will take the Colts on the Money Line. Good Value IMO. Fumbles happen, kick returns happen. Indy will be able to score with the Pats. I do think NE is better but to get 2 to 1 on the SB Champs at home seems like a value play to me.
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[scooter]
Footballguy
I don't understand this logic. People are so excited to bet on the Patriots to beat the 2nd best team in the league by 5 points........when statistically they should have been more excited about the Patriots beating Washington by 16 or beating Miami by 17(?).Indy is going to be the ONLY team ALL SEASON to give them trouble. So why even take the risk? Why not wait for a gimme?Save your money this week and then bet the farm on next week's game.
purestrength
Footballguy
I prefer dealing with recent history over ancient history. Did you see the last three Colts-Patriots games?I think BB leads the match-up 7-3.
Absolutely. The Patriots are so good that they can even win on their bye week.
tombonneau
Footballguy
Did you watch the Colts this week? They looked pretty pedestrian and were lucky they were facing Vinny T & David Carr.Granted, the fact that they looked pedestrian and still rolled is mighty impressive, but I've been watching both and NE looks like the superior team, and not just because they are scoring more points.
Val Rannous
Footballguy
What the heck is the over? I'd consider anything in double digits.
yinzer
Footballguy
This is the pretty much the whole point of this argument.If NE doesnt have 28 by halftime, they will halfway through the 3rd. Im not thinking theyll shut NE down, but its pretty much up to Indy to put up 38 or more to win this game. As had been said, the over is probably the best bet. The only way this game is under 56 points is by multiple TO's by each team. Which could happen, but even with the 56.5 O/U bet, its only 10 more than a few of the games of the board this week. Thats sounds like a sure thing.zoonation said:
maxwell1295
Footballguy
I can see the line inching up as the week goes on. At -6.5, there's gonna be a lot of money bet on the Pats. Some pretty heavy gamblers at work were thinking maybe -10.5 as an opener. To me, the difference is in the defense. Someone earlier in the thread predicted 41-21 in favor of New England. That sounds about right to me...
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