Ortiz or A-Rod (1 Viewer)

[Green and Gold]

This is from Day 1 on, for an entire season, not just a particular situation.

Ignore salary in this particular poll, as most teams couldn't come close to affording A-Rod. I expect A-Rod to get a majority of the votes, as he's a more complete player, but I'm curious how far emotion and 'clutch' hitting will help out Big Papi.

 

[guru_007]

Ignoring salaries, this is a no-brainer. I'm a life long Sox fan. I love big Papi but would take Arod in a heartbeat.

 

[satch]

Ignoring salaries, this is a no-brainer. I'm a life long Sox fan. I love big Papi but would take Arod in a heartbeat.

Gotta disagree. Arod may be the better all around player, but I dread him and his pinstripes. It's all about the fun factor and Papi has Arod beat by a longshot. I mean, seriously, you'd be happy if they traded Papi for Arod tomorrow? I would think it sucked and I bet most of Red Sox Nation would agree.

 

[Meat]

Ignoring salaries, this is a no-brainer. I'm a life long Sox fan. I love big Papi but would take Arod in a heartbeat.

Gotta disagree. Arod may be the better all around player, but I dread him and his pinstripes. It's all about the fun factor and Papi has Arod beat by a longshot. I mean, seriously, you'd be happy if they traded Papi for Arod tomorrow? I would think it sucked and I bet most of Red Sox Nation would agree.

Arod is on par with Papi in terms of offensive productivity, however Ortiz is a liability in the field (not that Arod is great by any means...). Aside from playoff performance, Arod is 'better' across the boad, IMO. You can't take anything away from either though, we're talking about 2 of the top 5 in the game.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

BIG PAPI WINS GAMES

 

[Pat Patriot]

Earlier post had it right, BIG PAPI = FUN. A-Rod is all corporate and putting up numbers.

 

[Tau837]

Ignoring salaries, this is a no-brainer.  I'm a life long Sox fan.  I love big Papi but would take Arod in a heartbeat.

Gotta disagree. Arod may be the better all around player, but I dread him and his pinstripes. It's all about the fun factor and Papi has Arod beat by a longshot. I mean, seriously, you'd be happy if they traded Papi for Arod tomorrow? I would think it sucked and I bet most of Red Sox Nation would agree.

Arod is on par with Papi in terms of offensive productivity, however Ortiz is a liability in the field (not that Arod is great by any means...). Aside from playoff performance, Arod is 'better' across the boad, IMO. You can't take anything away from either though, we're talking about 2 of the top 5 in the game.

But Big Papi is much better in the clubhouse. Better personality, better leader.

 

[johnnycakes]

Ortiz is to clutch hitting as Brady is to clutch quarterbacking.

 

[Chase Stuart]

This is probably a bad year to say this, since A-Rod has been so subpar, but Big Papi isn't even doing that well this year. Travis Hafner and Jim Thome have been way better. The difference between Jonny Gomes and Ortiz (77 points in OPS) is a lot smaller than the difference between Ortiz and Thome (133) or Ortiz and Hafner (161).

Ortiz has been the third best DH in the AL this year.

As for A-Rod, he's been dissapointing too. He's in a dead heat for leading all AL 3B in OPS (tied with Glaus) but that's misleading. His numbers are very no par with what he did in 2004, which most people thought was a "bad" year. To be fair he had one of the all time greatest seasons in 3B history last year, but he's really slumped off.

Maybe the game winner tonight will help, but when your OPS drops by 150 after half a season, you probably don't get the benefit of the doubt.

 

[Mr. Know-It-All]

Clearly A-Rod. He eats less and we need to trim the budget somewhere to pay for these salaries.

 

[Phlash]

Ortiz. I'll take the ring and the clutch skills

 

[Michael Brown]

Chase, I'm sorry but quoting stats with regard to this I disagree with. If basing it simply on OPS and things of that nature, the numbers would tell us we'd be better off with Michael Young or Miggy Tejada than Derek Jeter. At some point, what you see has to trump the bare statistics.

Now today did give me hope that A-Rod will be able to perform in the clutch in the future, because until this HR I was beginning to doubt that he had the ability to do so. Those of you who have played sports will understand this, that some people just get tight in big spots and cannot do their jobs when the pressure is on. A-Rod seemed to be one of those, and still may be -- but today goes a long way. Difference is, we KNOW Ortiz can do it. A lot.

 

[Chase Stuart]

Chase, I'm sorry but quoting stats with regard to this I disagree with. If basing it simply on OPS and things of that nature, the numbers would tell us we'd be better off with Michael Young or Miggy Tejada than Derek Jeter. At some point, what you see has to trump the bare statistics.

Now today did give me hope that A-Rod will be able to perform in the clutch in the future, because until this HR I was beginning to doubt that he had the ability to do so. Those of you who have played sports will understand this, that some people just get tight in big spots and cannot do their jobs when the pressure is on. A-Rod seemed to be one of those, and still may be -- but today goes a long way. Difference is, we KNOW Ortiz can do it. A lot.

Is there anything about A-Rod that would make you believe he can't perform in tight spots? Is it his last name, his brain type, or his jersey number?I think a guy that can win an MVP with 50,000 people watching him every home game, and tens of millions of others expecting him to be the best player on the planet, can probably perform when the pressure is on.

At the All-Star break last year the Yankees were in third place, and 2.5 GB of Boston. A-Rod basically carried the team by going .325/.426/.643, incredible numbers for a 3B. His OPS was 255 points higher than the second best 3B's OPS in the second half, Eric Chavez.

Come on, Mike. You're a lot better than this to say there's something about A-Rod that prevents him from doing his job "when the pressure is on." Guy hit lights out with the ultimate pressure on him for three months and carried the Yanks to another division title.

 

[Spartans Rule]

"Clutch" play is an overrated concept. I could get out my Strat-O-Matic Cards and some players would appear to be clutch and some wouldn't even though I'm just rolling dice.

Baseball is a game meant to be played in the long run. When players are only batting 4 or 5 times per game, it takes a long time for data to reach statistical significance. 1-for-16 doesn't mean anything. Every player has a couple of those every season. That's baseball.

To illustrate my point....

Mr. November, Derek Jeter, has a career OPS of .847. He has a playoff career OPS of .842, and a World Series OPS of .809. No significant difference there.

Big Papi has a career OPS of .900, a playoff OPS of .915.

The horribly un-clutch A-Rod has a .962 career OPS and a .927 playoff OPS.

I will give you Mr. October though. Reggie Jackson's career OPS of .846 skyrockets to 1.212 in the World Series. So I guess some players really are clutch...

as long you disregard the LCS, where Jackson's OPS is a pitiful .678, putting his total postseason OPS at .885.

Bottom line: "Clutch" is more about fans having selective memories and someone being in the right place at the right time than it is about any magical ability or inability to raise or lower one's game at crunch time.

 

[Alias]

"Clutch" play is an overrated concept. I could get out my Strat-O-Matic Cards and some players would appear to be clutch and some wouldn't even though I'm just rolling dice.

Baseball is a game meant to be played in the long run. When players are only batting 4 or 5 times per game, it takes a long time for data to reach statistical significance. 1-for-16 doesn't mean anything. Every player has a couple of those every season. That's baseball.

To illustrate my point....

Mr. November, Derek Jeter, has a career OPS of .847. He has a playoff career OPS of .842, and a World Series OPS of .809. No significant difference there.

Big Papi has a career OPS of .900, a playoff OPS of .915.

The horribly un-clutch A-Rod has a .962 career OPS and a .927 playoff OPS.

I will give you Mr. October though. Reggie Jackson's career OPS of .846 skyrockets to 1.212 in the World Series. So I guess some players really are clutch...

as long you disregard the LCS, where Jackson's OPS is a pitiful .678, putting his total postseason OPS at .885.

Bottom line: "Clutch" is more about fans having selective memories and someone being in the right place at the right time than it is about any magical ability or inability to raise or lower one's game at crunch time.

Xwhile some may argue A-Rod is the easy choice this poll is flawed, give me Papi and the money left over any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

Papi has a WPA of: 275.3

A-Rod has a WPA of: -16.1 (not including his walkoff from yesterday, but it will still not be anywhere close to Papi, he may be closer to 0 which means he has had no effect on the Yankees winning or losing on average this season)

...whereas Papi has been the MVP for the Red Sox only second to Papelbon. Also as DH he has less chance of getting injured and the sox infield does not need PAY-ROD.

http://www.fangraphs.com/winss.aspx?team=Yankees

If you are going to overvalue stats, overvalue the right ones.

 

[bialczabub]

...whereas Papi has been the MVP for the Red Sox only second to Papelbon.

So you're saying you'd rather have the rookie on your team than Ortiz.And we're supposed to take your opinion seriously?

 

[JuniorNB]

This is a no-brainer. By no means am I slighting Big Papi. The things he does in clutch situations are phenomenal.

It would be ten times easier to replace a DH than it would a gold glove winning third baseman.

They are equals at the plate, so take hitting out of the equation.

Power hitting DH's are fairly common (Thome, Hafner). Power hitting, gold-glove infielders are a rarity.

 

[Reaper]

Arod is on par with Papi in terms of offensive productivity, however Ortiz is a liability in the field (not that Arod is great by any means...).

You're kidding right....The guy is a gold glove Short Stop who decided to take on another position.

On any other team he plays SS.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Ortiz scares me. I want a guy like that on my team, not a team I have to face.

 

[Joseph]

"Clutch" play is an overrated concept. I could get out my Strat-O-Matic Cards and some players would appear to be clutch and some wouldn't even though I'm just rolling dice.

Baseball is a game meant to be played in the long run. When players are only batting 4 or 5 times per game, it takes a long time for data to reach statistical significance. 1-for-16 doesn't mean anything. Every player has a couple of those every season. That's baseball.

To illustrate my point....

Mr. November, Derek Jeter, has a career OPS of .847. He has a playoff career OPS of .842, and a World Series OPS of .809. No significant difference there.

Big Papi has a career OPS of .900, a playoff OPS of .915.

The horribly un-clutch A-Rod has a .962 career OPS and a .927 playoff OPS.

I will give you Mr. October though. Reggie Jackson's career OPS of .846 skyrockets to 1.212 in the World Series. So I guess some players really are clutch...

as long you disregard the LCS, where Jackson's OPS is a pitiful .678, putting his total postseason OPS at .885.

Bottom line: "Clutch" is more about fans having selective memories and someone being in the right place at the right time than it is about any magical ability or inability to raise or lower one's game at crunch time.

Xwhile some may argue A-Rod is the easy choice this poll is flawed, give me Papi and the money left over any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

Papi has a WPA of: 275.3

A-Rod has a WPA of: -16.1 (not including his walkoff from yesterday, but it will still not be anywhere close to Papi, he may be closer to 0 which means he has had no effect on the Yankees winning or losing on average this season)

...whereas Papi has been the MVP for the Red Sox only second to Papelbon. Also as DH he has less chance of getting injured and the sox infield does not need PAY-ROD.

http://www.fangraphs.com/winss.aspx?team=Yankees

If you are going to overvalue stats, overvalue the right ones.

I don't know much about what the WPA statistic entails, but looking at others shown on that site, I have to question how reasonable they are when it shows that Albert Pujols creates 9.44 runs per game... Still, by their RC/G statistics Ortiz and Rodriguez are nearly identical this year (both hovering just under 7).

I don't know what to make of the WPA though, as the site doesn't seem to explain what it is.

 

[guru_007]

I don't know much about what the WPA statistic entails, but looking at others shown on that site, I have to question how reasonable they are when it shows that Albert Pujols creates 9.44 runs per game... Still, by their RC/G statistics Ortiz and Rodriguez are nearly identical this year (both hovering just under 7).I don't know what to make of the WPA though, as the site doesn't seem to explain what it is.

To me, that is probably the least important stat, if you want to even call it that, that I've ever seen and isn't even worth posting a link. It has about as much signifance as me drawing a pie chart and randomly distributing pieces of it.

 

[Joseph]

I don't know much about what the WPA statistic entails, but looking at others shown on that site, I have to question how reasonable they are when it shows that Albert Pujols creates 9.44 runs per game...

Still, by their RC/G statistics Ortiz and Rodriguez are nearly identical this year (both hovering just under 7).

I don't know what to make of the WPA though, as the site doesn't seem to explain what it is.

To me, that is probably the least important stat, if you want to even call it that, that I've ever seen and isn't even worth posting a link. It has about as much signifance as me drawing a pie chart and randomly distributing pieces of it.

Which is the least important, WPA or RC/G?

 

[guru_007]

I don't know much about what the WPA statistic entails, but looking at others shown on that site, I have to question how reasonable they are when it shows that Albert Pujols creates 9.44 runs per game...

Still, by their RC/G statistics Ortiz and Rodriguez are nearly identical this year (both hovering just under 7).

I don't know what to make of the WPA though, as the site doesn't seem to explain what it is.

To me, that is probably the least important stat, if you want to even call it that, that I've ever seen and isn't even worth posting a link. It has about as much signifance as me drawing a pie chart and randomly distributing pieces of it.

Which is the least important, WPA or RC/G?

WPA

 

[Joseph]

I don't know much about what the WPA statistic entails, but looking at others shown on that site, I have to question how reasonable they are when it shows that Albert Pujols creates 9.44 runs per game...

Still, by their RC/G statistics Ortiz and Rodriguez are nearly identical this year (both hovering just under 7).

I don't know what to make of the WPA though, as the site doesn't seem to explain what it is.

To me, that is probably the least important stat, if you want to even call it that, that I've ever seen and isn't even worth posting a link. It has about as much signifance as me drawing a pie chart and randomly distributing pieces of it.

Which is the least important, WPA or RC/G?

WPA

What is WPA, I can't even find a definition of the stat on that site?

 

[Alias]

"Clutch" play is an overrated concept. I could get out my Strat-O-Matic Cards and some players would appear to be clutch and some wouldn't even though I'm just rolling dice.

Baseball is a game meant to be played in the long run. When players are only batting 4 or 5 times per game, it takes a long time for data to reach statistical significance. 1-for-16 doesn't mean anything. Every player has a couple of those every season. That's baseball.

To illustrate my point....

Mr. November, Derek Jeter, has a career OPS of .847. He has a playoff career OPS of .842, and a World Series OPS of .809. No significant difference there.

Big Papi has a career OPS of .900, a playoff OPS of .915.

The horribly un-clutch A-Rod has a .962 career OPS and a .927 playoff OPS.

I will give you Mr. October though. Reggie Jackson's career OPS of .846 skyrockets to 1.212 in the World Series. So I guess some players really are clutch...

as long you disregard the LCS, where Jackson's OPS is a pitiful .678, putting his total postseason OPS at .885.

Bottom line: "Clutch" is more about fans having selective memories and someone being in the right place at the right time than it is about any magical ability or inability to raise or lower one's game at crunch time.

Xwhile some may argue A-Rod is the easy choice this poll is flawed, give me Papi and the money left over any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

Papi has a WPA of: 275.3

A-Rod has a WPA of: -16.1 (not including his walkoff from yesterday, but it will still not be anywhere close to Papi, he may be closer to 0 which means he has had no effect on the Yankees winning or losing on average this season)

...whereas Papi has been the MVP for the Red Sox only second to Papelbon. Also as DH he has less chance of getting injured and the sox infield does not need PAY-ROD.

http://www.fangraphs.com/winss.aspx?team=Yankees

If you are going to overvalue stats, overvalue the right ones.

I don't know much about what the WPA statistic entails, but looking at others shown on that site, I have to question how reasonable they are when it shows that Albert Pujols creates 9.44 runs per game... Still, by their RC/G statistics Ortiz and Rodriguez are nearly identical this year (both hovering just under 7).

I don't know what to make of the WPA though, as the site doesn't seem to explain what it is.

Think of WPA as the stat that makes sense of RC/G - if ARod creates the majority of his runs in blowouts and Ortiz creates the majority of his runs in close games, which is more valuable to your team?Dollar for Dollar Ortiz is more valuable then ARod, the fact that the OP put these two up for grabs with money not being a factor is a sham.

 

[harryhood]

I don't even know how you can put Ortiz in the same category, because he was up at the right time the last couple years and got important hits. So what??? he doesn't play the field, he doesnt make things happen on the bases, he only hits, and hits VERY well.

If he singles, all he does is extend an inning, if A-rod singles, you have to think more because he can steal a base and make things happen(ie go first to third).

Put Papi in the field and your defense gets remarkably worse....put A-rod in the field and your defense is remarkably improved.

Baseball is much more than hitting homeruns and walk offs and the people who obviously don't understand that picked Ortiz

 

[Alias]

The One about WPA

 

[bialczabub]

Dollar for Dollar Ortiz is more valuable then ARod, the fact that the OP put these two up for grabs with money not being a factor is a sham.

The Red Sox have to pay another player to play in the field, while Ortiz takes up a sizeable part of the Sox bench.Because Ortiz is such a valuable hitter, the other Red Sox batters rarely get a chance to DH instead of taking an entire day off.

 

[Alias]

I don't even know how you can put Ortiz in the same category, because he was up at the right time the last couple years and got important hits. So what??? he doesn't play the field, he doesnt make things happen on the bases, he only hits, and hits VERY well.

If he singles, all he does is extend an inning, if A-rod singles, you have to think more because he can steal a base and make things happen(ie go first to third).

Put Papi in the field and your defense gets remarkably worse....put A-rod in the field and your defense is remarkably improved.

Baseball is much more than hitting homeruns and walk offs and the people who obviously don't understand that picked Ortiz

maybe for your team, on the sox .981 (3rd) & .996 (SS) > .941 (ARod)

 

[Tough As Nails]

If money isn't a factor...it's ARod. If all the teams and salaries were dumped and the MLB GM's had a draft, ARod gets taken before Ortiz by 25 or more of the GMs.

Pujols gets taken before either of these chumps though...

 

[harryhood]

I don't even know how you can put Ortiz in the same category, because he was up at the right time the last couple years and got important hits.  So what??? he doesn't play the field, he doesnt make things happen on the bases, he only hits, and hits VERY well.

If he singles, all he does is extend an inning, if A-rod singles, you have to think more because he can steal a base and make things happen(ie go first to third).

Put Papi in the field and your defense gets remarkably worse....put A-rod in the field and your defense is remarkably improved.

Baseball is much more than hitting homeruns and walk offs and the people who obviously don't understand that picked Ortiz

maybe for your team, on the sox .981 (3rd) & .996 (SS) > .941 (ARod)

yea but think of it in baseball terms. those guys fielding pct is better than a-rod but they dont hold a candle to him at the plate. It is a package thing and A-rod is the total package.A rod is a 5 tool player

Those others including Ortiz are only about 3 or 4 tool

 

[shuke]

This is laughable.

 

[Jefferson the Caregiver]

If this is such a run away, why do Yankee fans routinely boo A Rod?

If this is so laughable, why is A Rod the cause of media criticism day in and day out.

I trust the people that follow the team and they seem to get very frustrated with A Rod. That couldn't be farther from the truth with Ortiz.

Maybe you don't appreciate clutch hitting, I do. I think it has value.

 

[Tough As Nails]

This is laughable.

Red Sox fans favor Ortiz.Yankee fans favor ARod.

Objective fans favor ARod.

That's perfectly in line with how I thought the poll would go. Not sure why Red Sox fans are so insecure about the whole thing. Every chance they get they bash ARod. Get over it. The Sox have a World Series ring. ARod doesn't. Let it go.

 

[Keys Myaths]

If this is such a run away, why do Yankee fans routinely boo A Rod?

Because they're stupid.

 

[Jefferson the Caregiver]

I just want to add that A Rod is tied for 4th in errors this year. 4th of all major league players!

Its not a new position anymore, don't use that excuse.

 

[Keys Myaths]

I just want to add that A Rod is tied for 4th in errors this year. 4th of all major league players!

Its not a new position anymore, don't use that excuse.

At least he plays a position.

 

[Workhorse]

I'm a Sox fan.

I'd take ARod over Ortiz any day of the week, and it ain't even close.

Look, if you make that trade, you have way more options in terms of flexibility. ARod back in his natural position at SS, and you can plug Wily Mo Pena (when he gets back) as your DH hitting NINTH in the lineup????

Yeah, that would work just fine.

 

[Jefferson the Caregiver]

This is laughable.

Red Sox fans favor Ortiz.Yankee fans favor ARod.

Objective fans favor ARod.

That's perfectly in line with how I thought the poll would go. Not sure why Red Sox fans are so insecure about the whole thing. Every chance they get they bash ARod. Get over it. The Sox have a World Series ring. ARod doesn't. Let it go.

The Yankee fans bash A Rod more than The Red Sox fans. We don't need to bash him, he's getting it at home.

 

[wilked]

E-Rod...

 

[Giant Wooden Badger]

"Clutch" play is an overrated concept. I could get out my Strat-O-Matic Cards and some players would appear to be clutch and some wouldn't even though I'm just rolling dice.

Baseball is a game meant to be played in the long run. When players are only batting 4 or 5 times per game, it takes a long time for data to reach statistical significance. 1-for-16 doesn't mean anything. Every player has a couple of those every season. That's baseball.

To illustrate my point....

Mr. November, Derek Jeter, has a career OPS of .847. He has a playoff career OPS of .842, and a World Series OPS of .809. No significant difference there.

Big Papi has a career OPS of .900, a playoff OPS of .915.

The horribly un-clutch A-Rod has a .962 career OPS and a .927 playoff OPS.

I will give you Mr. October though. Reggie Jackson's career OPS of .846 skyrockets to 1.212 in the World Series. So I guess some players really are clutch...

as long you disregard the LCS, where Jackson's OPS is a pitiful .678, putting his total postseason OPS at .885.

Bottom line: "Clutch" is more about fans having selective memories and someone being in the right place at the right time than it is about any magical ability or inability to raise or lower one's game at crunch time.

This guys gets it.

 

[Workhorse]

Dollar for Dollar Ortiz is more valuable then ARod, the fact that the OP put these two up for grabs with money not being a factor is a sham.

The Red Sox have to pay another player to play in the field, while Ortiz takes up a sizeable part of the Sox bench.Because Ortiz is such a valuable hitter, the other Red Sox batters rarely get a chance to DH instead of taking an entire day off.

I hear this all the time from Yankee fans and it makes no sense. Is Jason Giambi one of the two most valuable Yankees this year? And he's a BRUTAL defensive first baseman. If they had a better option at first base, he'd be an everyday DH too. Fact is, the only reason he's not is the Yankees don't have an option like Kevin Youkilis.

 

[Jefferson the Caregiver]

I just want to add that A Rod is tied for 4th in errors this year.  4th of all major league players!

Its not a new position anymore, don't use that excuse.

At least he plays a position.

Last time I checked, you had to bat 9 players.

 

[Giant Wooden Badger]

I just want to add that A Rod is tied for 4th in errors this year.  4th of all major league players!

Its not a new position anymore, don't use that excuse.

At least he plays a position.

Last time I checked, you had to bat 9 players.

Hey, it isn't A-Rod's fault that the Yankees don't start their best defensive SS at SS.

 

[Giant Wooden Badger]

Maybe you don't appreciate clutch hitting, I do. I think it has value.

That's pretty sweet considering it doesn't exist.

 

[Jefferson the Caregiver]

Maybe you don't appreciate clutch hitting, I do.  I think it has value.

That's pretty sweet considering it doesn't exist.

That's funny.

 

[Sammy3469]

Dollar for Dollar Ortiz is more valuable then ARod, the fact that the OP put these two up for grabs with money not being a factor is a sham.

The Red Sox have to pay another player to play in the field, while Ortiz takes up a sizeable part of the Sox bench.Because Ortiz is such a valuable hitter, the other Red Sox batters rarely get a chance to DH instead of taking an entire day off.

I hear this all the time from Yankee fans and it makes no sense. Is Jason Giambi one of the two most valuable Yankees this year? And he's a BRUTAL defensive first baseman. If they had a better option at first base, he'd be an everyday DH too. Fact is, the only reason he's not is the Yankees don't have an option like Kevin Youkilis.

Hell I'd say Giambi is the most valuable Yankee this year....he's the only thing keeping that lineup together at this point.

 

[Reaper]

This is laughable.

Red Sox fans favor Ortiz.Yankee fans favor ARod.

Objective fans favor ARod.

That's perfectly in line with how I thought the poll would go. Not sure why Red Sox fans are so insecure about the whole thing. Every chance they get they bash ARod. Get over it. The Sox have a World Series ring. ARod doesn't. Let it go.

The Yankee fans bash A Rod more than The Red Sox fans. We don't need to bash him, he's getting it at home.

As a Yankee fan with a lot of friends who agree, I think the A-Rod bashing is more of a media thing... Like I said in another post, the freaking NY media started up even before he got here asking "Will AROD ever be a "True Yankee?".... WTF does THAT mean?

Will he ever be on a higher pedastal than Jeter? Probably Not - But, whatever, that's life, we stil embrace Arod as one of the best players in the game.

Then they wonder how people questioned Arod to start..

Just yesterday Micheal Kay Tells Arod "You know If i were you I'd leave NY cuz you could never live up to the Hype" - Arod basically said he was nuts for saying such a thing....

Ridiculous how the media creates its own story.

They ask dumb ### questions like that and lead the charge....

But, Yes, as a Yankee fan I also understand there is a younger generation that is a bit spoiled - I doubt many long time Yankee fans sit there an BOO A-Rod.

 

[Jefferson the Caregiver]

The Red Sox have to pay another player to play in the field, while Ortiz takes up a sizeable part of the Sox bench.

Because Ortiz is such a valuable hitter, the other Red Sox batters rarely get a chance to DH instead of taking an entire day off.

The reason this doesn't make sense is that you have to pay your roster regardless and last I checked DH was still a spot in the batting order.The Red Sox chose to pay a very modest salary to a defensive whiz of a shortstop.

That's the choice they made, seems to be working out well. Can't argue with first place.

 

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It would be ten times easier to replace a DH than it would a gold glove winning third baseman.

American League 3rd Basemen Error Count:A Rodriguez - 13

A Beltre - 11

B Inge - 11

A Boone - 10

H Blaylock - 9

...

M Lowell - 4

Most have 4 or fewer

That said i voted Arod. If at the plate only, i'll take Ortiz. On the basepaths you gotta go Arod. In the field, it's close but you gotta go Arod.... now if Arod could just play SS then I'd give him the nod all day long. He's just not that good at the hot corner.