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QT is going ape@!#* right nowDirecting
The Big Short, Adam McKay
Mad Max: Fury Road, George Miller
The Revenant, Alejandro G. Iñárritu
Room, Lenny Abrahamson
Tom McCarthy, Spotlight
Didn't see he wasn't on the list.
Directing
The Big Short, Adam McKay
Mad Max: Fury Road, George Miller
The Revenant, Alejandro G. Iñárritu
Room, Lenny Abrahamson
Tom McCarthy, Spotlight
QT is going ape@!#* right now
yea. What a jokeNo Carrell, No Ridley Scott, no Sicario.
Is this the MLB HOF committee making the selections?
It's really a movie about the newspaper. The sleazy Catholic Church is just the backdrop.Sounds like Spotlight is the early favorite, little interest in seeing another movie about the Catholic Church being sleazy. I'm sure it's really good and all.
"Won't let the same guy win two years in a row" I agree it will be a consideration, however stupid. Why is it so hard to give out awards that actually reward the best work in the field each year?Will read more later, my random thoughts:
Don't know if they will let the same guy win 2 in a row so that hurts The Revenant and Iñárritu.
Sounds like Spotlight is the early favorite, little interest in seeing another movie about the Catholic Church being sleazy. I'm sure it's really good and all.
Leo is probably the biggest lock in any category. Will check odds when they come up.
Everyone seems to say Brie Larson will win actress, haven't seen that one. I have only seen her in 21 Jumpstreet and Trainwreck.
I thought they would hook up Michael Keaton because of history and a lot of people thought he would win last year.
Glad to see Mad Max got a nom. Still don't get why people don't get on board with this, great movie. Has zero chance of winning.
It's really a movie about the newspaper. The sleazy Catholic Church is just the backdrop.Sounds like Spotlight is the early favorite, little interest in seeing another movie about the Catholic Church being sleazy. I'm sure it's really good and all.
Spotlight is fantastic. It should win.I've seen only one of the Best Picture nominees (mad max - meh)
Some interest in seeing Big Short and Room
Mild interest in Leo Gets Eaten By A Bear and Castaway 2: Electric Boogaloo
The rest sound like boring drivel
And its terrific.It's really a movie about the newspaper. The sleazy Catholic Church is just the backdrop.Sounds like Spotlight is the early favorite, little interest in seeing another movie about the Catholic Church being sleazy. I'm sure it's really good and all.
Agree. I always read about how much politics are involved. One of Gervais' funny lines during GG was something about the studios essentially all buy these awards then they immediately cut to Harvey Weinstein"Won't let the same guy win two years in a row" I agree it will be a consideration, however stupid. Why is it so hard to give out awards that actually reward the best work in the field each year?Will read more later, my random thoughts:
Don't know if they will let the same guy win 2 in a row so that hurts The Revenant and Iñárritu.
Sounds like Spotlight is the early favorite, little interest in seeing another movie about the Catholic Church being sleazy. I'm sure it's really good and all.
Leo is probably the biggest lock in any category. Will check odds when they come up.
Everyone seems to say Brie Larson will win actress, haven't seen that one. I have only seen her in 21 Jumpstreet and Trainwreck.
I thought they would hook up Michael Keaton because of history and a lot of people thought he would win last year.
Glad to see Mad Max got a nom. Still don't get why people don't get on board with this, great movie. Has zero chance of winning.
That's good to hear. Will see for sure.It's really a movie about the newspaper. The sleazy Catholic Church is just the backdrop.Sounds like Spotlight is the early favorite, little interest in seeing another movie about the Catholic Church being sleazy. I'm sure it's really good and all.
Why did you like it so much? I went to the theaters to see it but felt disappointed. Did not care for Brolin and Emily much and that was 2/3 of the characters. And Del Toro was good but some of the motives and the way he carried things out, felt confusing to a degree.I wonder what it was about Sicario the Academy didn't like. One of the best movies I have seen in the last few years. I guess there were two or three too few car chases for them.
They have up to 10 to use, and I am honestly surprised Sicario, Inside Out, or even Hateful Eight aren't on the list.
You're not far off. One of my professors at UM was a voting member and former producer form the 70s...he really is not a good person to be voting at his age.No Carrell, No Ridley Scott, no Sicario.
Is this the MLB HOF committee making the selections?
That was kind of bad. JJL though and I think she will win. Score will win. It still could walk away with 2-3 on Oscar Night.Wow. QT not even nominated for screenplay.
Mad Max over Ex Machina? WTF, Issac and Gleeson were phenomenal what a joke.Ex machina and hateful 8 got screwed here.
Would have loved to seen a bold nomination for my favorite movie of the year, Dope, which also would have taken some minority heat off them but I might be pipe dreaming.
It's not really "over" they could have put up more noms I believe.Mad Max over Ex Machina? WTF, Issac and Gleeson were phenomenal what a joke.Ex machina and hateful 8 got screwed here.
Would have loved to seen a bold nomination for my favorite movie of the year, Dope, which also would have taken some minority heat off them but I might be pipe dreaming.
They can max out at 10 noms. Room for two more if they had wanted.It's not really "over" they could have put up more noms I believe.Mad Max over Ex Machina? WTF, Issac and Gleeson were phenomenal what a joke.Ex machina and hateful 8 got screwed here.
Would have loved to seen a bold nomination for my favorite movie of the year, Dope, which also would have taken some minority heat off them but I might be pipe dreaming.
Oh, none of the characters were great people to "care" about for sure. You loved Hateful Eight, so that can't be a requirement.Why did you like it so much? I went to the theaters to see it but felt disappointed. Did not care for Brolin and Emily much and that was 2/3 of the characters. And Del Toro was good but some of the motives and the way he carried things out, felt confusing to a degree.I wonder what it was about Sicario the Academy didn't like. One of the best movies I have seen in the last few years. I guess there were two or three too few car chases for them.
They have up to 10 to use, and I am honestly surprised Sicario, Inside Out, or even Hateful Eight aren't on the list.
The ####### answer is that it probably depends how famous they were. I thought we had the same thing happen when PSH passed. I think they included him in that year's memorial even though he died in Feb. of the same year.So do they only do the people who passed away in the calendar year of 2015, or do they go with people since last Oscars? With Bowie and Rickman passing this week, wondering if they will be there.
See, but the point is that movies like Room are what was usually nominated and people hated that. They opened it up more so the Avatars and Mad Max movies of that year could get a nod and it would drum up interest from a different crowd.They should really go back to 5 noms. Nothing good has come of broadening the field and it cheapens the big rub you used to get of being a nominee. People used to make point of seeing all five films but now do you really need to run out and see a film like the Room when it has no chance of winning?
Yeah, my wife and parents both like to see all the movies nominated and I think they like the expansion. Of course, now all three of them will have to see the Mad Max movie, which there is no chance in hell they would have seen otherwise.ETA: I honestly don't think the people who used to make a point of seeing the nominations are deterred from seeing a couple more.
It has gotten a crapload of critical acclaim too, but I wonder if it will have the opposite reaction for people who are usually a fan of Oscar movies. Just like people revolting against the Tree of Life/Birdman type of movies from one side, now people that usually like that will have to sit down and watch Mad Max.Yeah, my wife and parents both like to see all the movies nominated and I think they like the expansion. Of course, now all three of them will have to see the Mad Max movie, which there is no chance in hell they would have seen otherwise.ETA: I honestly don't think the people who used to make a point of seeing the nominations are deterred from seeing a couple more.
If you're a relatively casual viewer, or you live maybe not close to a great cluster of theaters, and I'm still considering this a theatrical game, the idea is to get people to the theaters if at all possible, I think seeing five movies in a month is a lot easier than doing 8. Theatres near me used to do a marathon screening of all the noms on the Saturday before the Oscars but thats a tall order now to sit through 8 movies. Now granted, thats a fraction of a flea's nut of business but people will say, eh I'll catch up with it later.See, but the point is that movies like Room are what was usually nominated and people hated that. They opened it up more so the Avatars and Mad Max movies of that year could get a nod and it would drum up interest from a different crowd.They should really go back to 5 noms. Nothing good has come of broadening the field and it cheapens the big rub you used to get of being a nominee. People used to make point of seeing all five films but now do you really need to run out and see a film like the Room when it has no chance of winning?
ETA: I honestly don't think the people who used to make a point of seeing the nominations are deterred from seeing a couple more.
You bring up a lot of great points. I am sure they are scrambling to figure out the right balance and how to make people still care about the Oscars. People still tune in and have parties, but I would bet 1/2 of the time it's to watch the fashion and glamour, talk about who's hottest, and just have an excuse to drink some wine.If you're a relatively casual viewer, or you live maybe not close to a great cluster of theaters, and I'm still considering this a theatrical game, the idea is to get people to the theaters if at all possible, I think seeing five movies in a month is a lot easier than doing 8. Theatres near me used to do a marathon screening of all the noms on the Saturday before the Oscars but thats a tall order now to sit through 8 movies. Now granted, thats a fraction of a flea's nut of business but people will say, eh I'll catch up with it later.See, but the point is that movies like Room are what was usually nominated and people hated that. They opened it up more so the Avatars and Mad Max movies of that year could get a nod and it would drum up interest from a different crowd.They should really go back to 5 noms. Nothing good has come of broadening the field and it cheapens the big rub you used to get of being a nominee. People used to make point of seeing all five films but now do you really need to run out and see a film like the Room when it has no chance of winning?
ETA: I honestly don't think the people who used to make a point of seeing the nominations are deterred from seeing a couple more.
A movie like Amour lost out because of the glut of nominees in my opinion.
The Academy and the business needs to figure how what and how they're doing things. I LOVED Mad Max, LOVED IT. But it doesn't need to get an oscar nomination, it simply doesn't, as it has not been the structure to reward that type of film. Therefore, that audience does not exist to value and prioritze the oscar.
Hell, a fifteen year old kid doesn't even deliniate, and probably PREFERS television over film. Oscar ratings are down because it just doesn't mean as much as it once did to the casual viewer.
I mean, Mad Max gets nominated but there are no straight comedies nominated. Mad Max is gorgeous, but is there any real emotional pang or angst in that film? What does it build to or creshendo with?
If the academy wanted to broaden things, rather than deviating from their structure, I would have either a best comedy or somehow do best popcorn movie award. Maybe in that, give out one single award, for best PERFORMANCE in any of those movies, one category, man or woman. Then you haven't needlessly added a layer of nominations, but maybe you get more of the super casuals or young people in.
Why should animation have its own category? I mean how many animated films get released each year? A dozen? Twenty? Claimed by people who lets face deliver no ratings star power. Although this year was a brutal year as an example. You would be looking at Trainwreck.
I don't often agree with what they give the best pic to, but I also don't look at the nominees and think "wtf are you doing?".We'll see if the academy makes it 3 years in a row of Best Pictures that I completely disagree with - 12 Years A Slave and Birdman were not good choices in my opinion.
I would have gone with Captain Philips (or Dallas Buyers Club) 2 years ago and The Imitation Game (or Grand Budapest Hotel) last year.
Others have argued with me but I think only 8 best film nominations when they can go 10 only shows it was a weak year for films.Revenant leading in noms? It wasn't *that* good.
Weak year for movies. Nothing was great.
Totally agree. If you keep the acting noms at 5 a piece, just go with that for the films as well. That's what makes it a big deal to get the nomination in the 1st place...but now everyone has to get a blue participation ribbon.They should really go back to 5 noms. Nothing good has come of broadening the field and it cheapens the big rub you used to get of being a nominee. People used to make point of seeing all five films but now do you really need to run out and see a film like the Room when it has no chance of winning?
Well, not everyone...Totally agree. If you keep the acting noms at 5 a piece, just go with that for the films as well. That's what makes it a big deal to get the nomination in the 1st place...but now everyone has to get a blue participation ribbon.They should really go back to 5 noms. Nothing good has come of broadening the field and it cheapens the big rub you used to get of being a nominee. People used to make point of seeing all five films but now do you really need to run out and see a film like the Room when it has no chance of winning?
Not even close, imo. And Im a QT fan.Others have argued with me but I think only 8 best film nominations when they can go 10 only shows it was a weak year for films.Revenant leading in noms? It wasn't *that* good.
Weak year for movies. Nothing was great.
H8 was nominated for score, cinematography, and a best acting nod with Jennifer Jason Leigh, should have gotten a nomination for best film and best original screenplay IMO, that would have been 5 overall. As is I think it will still walk away with 2 big Oscars for score and also for JJL which I can't wait to see her accept the award. I have always always always liked her and I know she ain't cute to everyone but I always had a crush on her as a kid.
H8 was a top notch made film. Just the actual making of it, even the snow and the snow flurries coming in the cracks of the wood inside the cabin looked real. Everything looked very real to me.Not even close, imo. And Im a QT fan.Others have argued with me but I think only 8 best film nominations when they can go 10 only shows it was a weak year for films.Revenant leading in noms? It wasn't *that* good.
Weak year for movies. Nothing was great.
H8 was nominated for score, cinematography, and a best acting nod with Jennifer Jason Leigh, should have gotten a nomination for best film and best original screenplay IMO, that would have been 5 overall. As is I think it will still walk away with 2 big Oscars for score and also for JJL which I can't wait to see her accept the award. I have always always always liked her and I know she ain't cute to everyone but I always had a crush on her as a kid.
Nah, Goodfellas not winning was unforgivable.Smack Tripper said:The only unforgivable year was giving the Oscar to Crash... that movie is so middling, how it was even nominated is mind boggling. Think it beat out Brokeback too, so much for liberal hollywood.
Also, 12 years a slave is weak, swept along for politcal reasons.