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ProstheticRGK
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Tecumseh
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Day 100/100
It seems I saved the worst for last. I knew today would be rough sleep-wise, but man, it certainly effected what I could do. I got home from work a little after 8 this morning, set an alarm for noon to watch the Buckeyes and went to sleep. My plan was to watch/nap through the Bucks game, then sleep a little bit afterward, then go for my run. Not so much. I watched the whole game, then watched the first quarter of the A&M game (screw Clemson), then went for my run. I took a new route that I knew would be challenging because it has a few hills, and set out on my way. Either I drastically underestimated the hills, was way over-tired, or both, but I could only go about 2 miles before I had to take a walking break. I just had 0 energy. The route I took is basically a big circle that begins and ends at my house, so I forced my way through with a couple more walking breaks and headed in. Total time spent was only about 42 minutes, and my fitbit said I did about 3.5 miles total, which seems close-ish to true. I've been done for 20 minutes, have already showered and plopped on the couch, and I'm still sweating and my HR is still elevated. The moral of the story- get more than 3.5 hours sleep before running a very hilly route in 95 degree heat...
Anyway- I got out and did it. There were many, many days where I sure didn't feel like it, and still got my fat ### up and moving. I'm proud that the only day I missed was due to a logistical error, rather than lack of will.
All told, I lost about 12lbs. I did weigh myself after my run, and I was 209.6. I'm not counting that as a real weight, but it was good to see single digits again. I do wish I had done a bf% test before this 100 days, or even a dexa, because I know that I've added some decent muscle. I can see it, and others have mentioned it.
Tomorrow is going to be a rest day. I'm going to eat, and watch football, and watch more football, and sleep on my couch. Monday I'll be back in the gym. Thinking about starting a new 30 day challenge and seeing if anyone wants to come along with me...
Bank: $990 $$$$$$$$
It seems I saved the worst for last. I knew today would be rough sleep-wise, but man, it certainly effected what I could do. I got home from work a little after 8 this morning, set an alarm for noon to watch the Buckeyes and went to sleep. My plan was to watch/nap through the Bucks game, then sleep a little bit afterward, then go for my run. Not so much. I watched the whole game, then watched the first quarter of the A&M game (screw Clemson), then went for my run. I took a new route that I knew would be challenging because it has a few hills, and set out on my way. Either I drastically underestimated the hills, was way over-tired, or both, but I could only go about 2 miles before I had to take a walking break. I just had 0 energy. The route I took is basically a big circle that begins and ends at my house, so I forced my way through with a couple more walking breaks and headed in. Total time spent was only about 42 minutes, and my fitbit said I did about 3.5 miles total, which seems close-ish to true. I've been done for 20 minutes, have already showered and plopped on the couch, and I'm still sweating and my HR is still elevated. The moral of the story- get more than 3.5 hours sleep before running a very hilly route in 95 degree heat...
Anyway- I got out and did it. There were many, many days where I sure didn't feel like it, and still got my fat ### up and moving. I'm proud that the only day I missed was due to a logistical error, rather than lack of will.
All told, I lost about 12lbs. I did weigh myself after my run, and I was 209.6. I'm not counting that as a real weight, but it was good to see single digits again. I do wish I had done a bf% test before this 100 days, or even a dexa, because I know that I've added some decent muscle. I can see it, and others have mentioned it.
Tomorrow is going to be a rest day. I'm going to eat, and watch football, and watch more football, and sleep on my couch. Monday I'll be back in the gym. Thinking about starting a new 30 day challenge and seeing if anyone wants to come along with me...
Bank: $990 $$$$$$$$
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AAABatteries
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AAABatteries
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Still having trouble with my knee but it’s because I’m probably pushing myself a little too much - ran 13.4 miles this morning - last 3 I was hurting. I don’t know if it’s worth going to the ortho or not. When I rest it’s ok, but I don’t want to rest and based on what he told me before and what my GP said I’m most likely not doing any further damage - just have to live with it or (I assume) get it scoped.
@Otis, just popped my 4th tallboy (not that Bud55 ish) while sending out emails in advance of next week. Planning for football viewing tomorrow and some last minute roster changes. Should I shut it down soon and save that bottle of wine for tomorrow?
Disclosure, somewhere on a file backup, I was tracking yours and Zows progress back from 2016?
P.S. Booo Colorado
Disclosure, somewhere on a file backup, I was tracking yours and Zows progress back from 2016?
P.S. Booo Colorado
Tecumseh
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Day +1
Went to the bar to watch the Browns game today. After that nightmare, I was driving home, and a feeling hit me.
3 miles.
Went to the bar to watch the Browns game today. After that nightmare, I was driving home, and a feeling hit me.
3 miles.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Ditkaless Wonders
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273. One pound last week. Beats one pound gained. Need to stay the course.
Ditkaless Wonders
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38 weeks to Memorial Day 2020. 2 pounds a week would have me at my target weight. One pound a week, what I did this past week, my worse week since starting would still be better than where I am now.
Terminalxylem
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krista4
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Day One in the books for me. Day One of what? Well, I don't really want to detail my plans here given all the "OMG you can't work out" and "OMG you have to keto and IF" and "OMG you're doing it all wrong" posts. I believe what I'm doing will work for me, which is, generally, drinking a lot less booze and eating less and healthier. It involves a lot of tracking and monitoring based on specified daily goals and limits. This works for my personality as it becomes kind of a logic puzzle or challenge that I can beat. I like that.
Even better news is that Mr. krista is doing it with me, which helps a great deal not only for him, but for me as my worst food/drink times are when we're together. Our schedules don't coincide much, so the times we are together are filled with way too much booze and terrible food. Also, he is the only one who regularly brings crappy food into the house, so not even having it around at all will help me, too.
Today we've both done very well, keeping within our limits. Tomorrow I'm heading out for a big shopping trip to fill the house with the good-for-you stuff. We have both originally set three-month goals, but I expect to extend to at least six months for each of us before we head into "maintenance" mode.
Even better news is that Mr. krista is doing it with me, which helps a great deal not only for him, but for me as my worst food/drink times are when we're together. Our schedules don't coincide much, so the times we are together are filled with way too much booze and terrible food. Also, he is the only one who regularly brings crappy food into the house, so not even having it around at all will help me, too.
Today we've both done very well, keeping within our limits. Tomorrow I'm heading out for a big shopping trip to fill the house with the good-for-you stuff. We have both originally set three-month goals, but I expect to extend to at least six months for each of us before we head into "maintenance" mode.
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NutterButter
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Bull Dozier
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Ignore the haters. There is no one size fits all solution to this struggle. Good luck,
The bolded is key. I know when my wife and I are both focused and on the same plan, the best results are in store.
Ditkaless Wonders
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If you hire me to manage and care take Chateau Otis up in the Catskills I will throw in portion control manager for free. I will see to it that the house is purged of all Oreos, chips and booze before you arrive. The fridge will just be stocked with water and healthy eats. Also, I will make so damn much noise in the early morning that you will be forced to come looking for me. I will see to it that there is a weighted bat by your bedside, ostensibly to beat me to death with. I figure running after me swinging a weighted bat will be fun and great cardio to start your day. Think about it. We will have you at your fighting weight in no time.
Oh, the position does include health insurance, correct? I may need it if you catch me.
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Ditkaless Wonders
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The household food is a challenge for me. My wife is a skinny and so too my daughter. Their diets are terrible but they burn off the calories. In my house right now there are brownies, chocolate covered pretzels, three kinds of chips, Poppycock (I love that stuff) three kinds of candy bars, two kinds of ice cream and at least a dozen boxes of Girl Scout cookies, including Samoas and Thin Mints. Temptation is just steps away. Of course even were that not true I am in a store nearly every day so temptation is always around. Just have to learn to deal with the fact that corporate America is more than willing to degrade our health to heavily market these high profit items and temptation is always there. I mean you have holiday foods like Halloween candy and pumpkin spice everything coming up followed by thanksgiving stuffing and pies and Christmas with booze, egg nog, chocolates and pastries. You have the booze fest of New Years and that is followed by the chocolate orgy which is Valentines Day interrupted for Super Bowl Weekend gluttony. Then Girl Scout cookie time followed by Easter candy. Me, I am trying to see that stuff for the poison it is and as things that could prevent me from dancing at my daughter's wedding. I try to keep it in perspective. Easily said for one day, but can I keep that perspective for a lifetime. We will see.
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eaganwildcats
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249 this AM after an average weekend. My fear of having to parent hungover has already mostly cut out the booze - so it's the snacking that was killing me. Limiting food to ~3-7 during the weekdays and then loosening up on the weekend. Will have to get more exercise baked in but need to find the time. Motto these days is "don't let perfect be the enemy of good".
Ditkaless Wonders
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Come on Otis, we could dress you in seal skin furs to add weight resistance to your run after me and to warm you up to get a good sweat going, like those rubber suits wrestlers use to wear while working out. You would look like a native American hunter. Me, I could be dressed as a baby seal. We may start a new exercise/weight loss craze and at the same time initiate an internet lynch mob that will chase us down, causing further calorie loss as they seek to hurt us for inappropriate cultural appropriation and insensitivity to the plight of overly stressed species.
Tom Skerritt
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Decent little workout below that someone can knock out in their hotel room....
https://youtu.be/m2LfqLLjWE4
(don't get distracted by the ears)
https://youtu.be/m2LfqLLjWE4
(don't get distracted by the ears)
MAC_32
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It may not have been @AAABatteries, but he's the one on my mind so I'm giving him credit anyway. I scoffed at intermittent fasting previously, but deep down I was listening because eventually my body would tell me I need to change. Well, it did this year. I used to be able to work off any excess, but my metabolism has slowed just enough at age 36 that I can't do just that anymore. So I began incorporating IF post vacation early August. I started the year 198 and slowly made my way down to 190 by June 1, but that routine used to get me well into the 180's over that timeframe. Between (minor) injury rehab and vacations I knew I wouldn't make any progress this summer and hoped I could just get to August 1 in a similar position. I got there at 194, so split the difference between January and June - good enough.
So let's try 16/8 IF while also ramping up half marathon training and see how this goes. I don't do the 16/8 on priority workout days, but 4-5 days/week I am. Cut off eating as close to 8 pm as possible then deal with the 10 am-noon hanger. 5 weeks later and I'm already below the 190 thresh hold. Hoping I can get to my goal of 180 by race day in November then put on 5-10 lbs of good weight this winter rather than the 15-20 lbs of bad weight I put on last winter.
And, hey - look at that, noon. Time to eat...
So let's try 16/8 IF while also ramping up half marathon training and see how this goes. I don't do the 16/8 on priority workout days, but 4-5 days/week I am. Cut off eating as close to 8 pm as possible then deal with the 10 am-noon hanger. 5 weeks later and I'm already below the 190 thresh hold. Hoping I can get to my goal of 180 by race day in November then put on 5-10 lbs of good weight this winter rather than the 15-20 lbs of bad weight I put on last winter.
And, hey - look at that, noon. Time to eat...
RUSF18
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I was 330 lbs when I was 19. Committed to making a change while a sophomore in college...surrounded by nothing but junk food and beer/liquor, and more junk food after drinking way too much. Lost about 130 lbs that year. Trust me when I say there is nothing special about me that allowed me to do all of that and keep the weight off.
Can you commit yourself to ONE WEEK of change? If so, you can absolutely lose weight.
That's really all you need to change your eating habits substantially. You'll break the habit of eating out of boredom. You'll break the habit of feeling like you're hungry when you're actually just thirsty and a glass of water will make that "hunger" go away. You'll realize that carrots and hummus or an equivalent can be just as satisfying as a bag of chips.
Figure out easy, healthy meals to survive on for a week. Do you really think that's impossible to pull off? Of course not.
Don't snack. It'll help you learn the difference between actual hunger and eating out of habit. Your belly is rumbling a bit a couple hours after dinner? Tough ####. Trust me: you'll survive, and you're going to be just fine. Drink a glass of water. And brush your teeth after dinner, it could help you mentally convince yourself that you're done eating for the day.
It probably won't even take you a full week to break the cycle. Maybe after 4 days that mid day "hunger" disappears and you start finding that you can go a whole 6 hours without eating. But keep up the meals only approach for the rest of the week.
Once you've retrained your body on how much food you actually need to consume, you can develop a better long term plan for diet and exercise that isn't as limited. But you have to break the cycle first.
I gained probably 10 lbs this summer, and I think most of the damage was done in August. Just eating everything in sight, very little of which was healthy. I'm on day 3 of retraining my body and it's already working. I have no real urge to snack between meals and my portion control is back to normal. I ate a dinner last night that would've left me so unsatisfied just a week ago that I probably would've added on another 500+ calories in snacking to feel "full".
It just takes a little discipline but it's not impossible. If you've struggled getting started, either once or 20 times, just push through that initial stage of discomfort and you'll get way closer to where you want to be.
Can you commit yourself to ONE WEEK of change? If so, you can absolutely lose weight.
That's really all you need to change your eating habits substantially. You'll break the habit of eating out of boredom. You'll break the habit of feeling like you're hungry when you're actually just thirsty and a glass of water will make that "hunger" go away. You'll realize that carrots and hummus or an equivalent can be just as satisfying as a bag of chips.
Figure out easy, healthy meals to survive on for a week. Do you really think that's impossible to pull off? Of course not.
Don't snack. It'll help you learn the difference between actual hunger and eating out of habit. Your belly is rumbling a bit a couple hours after dinner? Tough ####. Trust me: you'll survive, and you're going to be just fine. Drink a glass of water. And brush your teeth after dinner, it could help you mentally convince yourself that you're done eating for the day.
It probably won't even take you a full week to break the cycle. Maybe after 4 days that mid day "hunger" disappears and you start finding that you can go a whole 6 hours without eating. But keep up the meals only approach for the rest of the week.
Once you've retrained your body on how much food you actually need to consume, you can develop a better long term plan for diet and exercise that isn't as limited. But you have to break the cycle first.
I gained probably 10 lbs this summer, and I think most of the damage was done in August. Just eating everything in sight, very little of which was healthy. I'm on day 3 of retraining my body and it's already working. I have no real urge to snack between meals and my portion control is back to normal. I ate a dinner last night that would've left me so unsatisfied just a week ago that I probably would've added on another 500+ calories in snacking to feel "full".
It just takes a little discipline but it's not impossible. If you've struggled getting started, either once or 20 times, just push through that initial stage of discomfort and you'll get way closer to where you want to be.
AAABatteries
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Yep, the age thing is a kick to the nuts. That was one of the things that drove me over the last few years to get in better shape. The prospects of turning 50 (still 4.5 years away) and being a fat slob just seemed so daunting. I didn’t want it, don’t want it and I vowed to do something about it. So, I’m happy with my results and IF was definitely one of the tools I used and am using. I know what a workout beast you are though so just be smart. I tend to trust my body now and if I’m hungry I eat. If I’m not hungry on a given morning I do IF that day.
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MAC_32
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I think I've figured out the sequencing, but I'm keenly aware that I can't get complacent with planning and potential warning signs. It helps that I'm already used to not exercising until 2 pm give or take, so use the noon fueling to both kick hanger and get ready for exercise. But the biggest thing I've noticed is how hungry I am by dinner, but then I get full on less food.
Keerock
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Zow
Footballguy
232.4. Went for a challenging run last night (first "real" workout since I started doing this), ate well all day, and got probably the best night of sleep I've gotten in some time.
My focus right now is cleaning up, or at least moderating much better, my weekends. Basically I'm at the point where being healthy on Monday and Tuesday just means repairing the damage I did on Saturday and Sunday. Absolutely intend on limiting booze to just one day on the weekend and permitting myself to eat some things I wouldn't during the week, but also in moderation. Also plan to ensure that any day that I do consume differently that I at least get in a 3+ mile run in the AM or lift weights.
My focus right now is cleaning up, or at least moderating much better, my weekends. Basically I'm at the point where being healthy on Monday and Tuesday just means repairing the damage I did on Saturday and Sunday. Absolutely intend on limiting booze to just one day on the weekend and permitting myself to eat some things I wouldn't during the week, but also in moderation. Also plan to ensure that any day that I do consume differently that I at least get in a 3+ mile run in the AM or lift weights.
RUSF18
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Feel free to tell me to #### off...but why are you going into this "permitting" yourself to eat things you normally wouldn't when trying to eat better? Most people when they do this end up adding on a lot more calories than they otherwise would (the whole "cheat day" thing).
If you go in expecting to eat healthy, and you generally do save for that one cookie you end up having, you're much more likely to find yourself in a good calorie position for the day than having the mindset of "it's the weekend, I'll eat just a bit crappy, which I can control cause I'm so good at moderating myself".
And I don't know how you lift but good luck having that balance out a day of 1000 unnecessary calories from booze and food.
Gary Coal Man
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I have a recommendation for you desk bound guys. I bought this under-the-desk exercise bike, and have been shedding the pounds since. Pedal whenever you’re at your desk and the calories burnt and miles pedaled will add up quicker than you think. To offset overheating I also put a fan under my desk that blows on my legs and balls.
Terminalxylem
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All this scheduled “moderation” with junk food and alcohol is derailing the development of an appropriate diet. If you truly make healthy choices a habit, cravings for cr@p will largely be replaced with desiring good stuff. You just have to be willing to suffer a bit as you rewire your palate. Stringing oneself along with cheat days just perpetuates a bad cycle.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
A few thoughts on this post because I agree and disagree with parts of it:RUSF18 said:
- Snacking - I'm a big believer in a few things related to snacking - 1. have a feeding window and stick to it. Even if it's not officially IF it's good to say "I'm not eating after 6pm" or something or you will mindlessly graze. 2. If you are in your feeding window and are hungry then eat but try to make all your snacks fit your eating plan. 3. Don't snack if you aren't hungry - or really I'm almost to the point where I don't eat at all if I'm not hungry but definitely no snacks.
- There is some level of discipline needed for anybody - whether you are losing weight or not. However, the idea of willpower just doesn't really work most of the time. You need a plan and one you can stick too. If that plan includes intentional cheats then I'm ok with it. But don't consistently cheat and then think that it's the plan/diet fault. Have a better plan.
- Completely agree on hydration and water - really helps a lot
- One of the reasons I'm onboard with low-carb and Keto for people is because it limits the cravings and hunger. But you have to commit to it for a while to make it work. I tell people if you are unsure of it, don't want to do it or aren't committed then don't try it - find something else that works. I'm just a big proponent because for me it's pretty easy to follow, it aligns pretty closely with most conventional diets/wisdom and as mentioned, it helps me keep my hunger and cravings under control - that last one is huge for me and I think can be for others too
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Junk food I pretty much 100% agree with and for those who don't like alcohol I can get behind that too. But the idea of cheats is all in the eye of the beholder. A cheat for you and a cheat for me may not be the same thing. To me having a roll is a cheat where you may say having a piece of steak is a cheat.
Also, for many people if you tell them they can't have some stuff they like every once in a while they are more than likely not stick to their plan. Sure you can rework your palate, especially once you clear all the sugar but that takes time. There's very few people who don't "cheat" on some level. But I would agree they need to be rare when you are actively trying to lose weight, IMO.
Terminalxylem
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I’d say it’s more important to eliminate alcohol in those who do like it. Not only is it empty calories, it lowers inhibition to further dietary indiscretion.
But I was referring more to the idea of scheduled cheating under the auspices of moderation. It’s not the end of the world if one strays from their diet every once in a while, but you shouldn’t intentionally plan it as a regular thing.
Bull Dozier
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I agree with this. Related to this, I think people wanting to lose weight need to get out of the mindset of "treating" themselves with cheat days or meals when they have done a good job on their diet. It perpetuates the bad habits, and never allows your mind/body to get rid of the cravings, or looking forward to eating junk.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
On the alcohol thing I was throwing you a bone as you seem to be pretty set against it (and with lots of good reasons). My point on it is if you are going to drink, include it in your plan.
On cheats - I agree with you, don't use cheats as moderation - use them intentionally and don't make them regular IF you aren't making progress towards your goals. I think you can alter your cheats if you want but be prepared to alter course if needed.
Gawain
Footballguy
Had a work retreat so missed my Tuesday weigh-in, but I was able to keep my eating in check and only had two beers the three days we were in Canada.
Got home about 4:00 PM today and had only had a cup of coffee, but I hit the scale at 250.6. Have an in-person interview on Monday and want my first impression to be, "eh, he could stand to lose some weight," not "better get the defibrillator ready."
In seven weeks (started July 24), I'm down 42.5 lbs. This pace isn't sustainable, but I'm going to keep it up as long as I can.
Otis
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Wow I hate you.
I’m drunk at DFW. Didn’t eat all day, but eating a bunch of red wine and oatmeal cookies in the Delta lounge. After a week of eating weird #### and drinking in a hotel room. I did go to the gym this morning. And in the mirror I observed that there’s lots of hunky muscle underneath all this— if I could lose 25-30 lbs of fat, I’d be a total stud.
Why can’t I just buy that?
TIA
I’m drunk at DFW. Didn’t eat all day, but eating a bunch of red wine and oatmeal cookies in the Delta lounge. After a week of eating weird #### and drinking in a hotel room. I did go to the gym this morning. And in the mirror I observed that there’s lots of hunky muscle underneath all this— if I could lose 25-30 lbs of fat, I’d be a total stud.
Why can’t I just buy that?
TIA
ProstheticRGK
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You can, but you've been unwilling to pay the price. You sacrificed a lot to get where you're at professionally. You're reaping the rewards of that. You've sacrificed a lot to have a wife and kids and be a good husband and dad, and you're reaping the rewards of that.
It's all opportunity cost. This is a problem you can't just throw money at. You need to commit to using your time more wisely, and being less self-indulgent. You know this already.
But, here's the thing: you're trading looking and feeling better and extending your functional, healthy years for some wine, Bud Select 55s and oatmeal cookies. Does that sound like a good deal to you? If opposing counsel slipped that offer to you across the board room table, how would Masters of the Universe, professional Otis react?
RUSF18
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All good points, but to be clear, that was all my opinion on the mindset that I think is most effective for the first week or so when trying to start a big lifestyle change. Spend a week eating healthy meals and no snacks to break all those bad habits and train your body and your appetite, then incorporate snacking into a more typical and balanced diet.
gianmarco
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