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Otis fad diet thread — yoga, fasting, and kevzilla walking on🚶‍♂️ (1 Viewer)

I agree with this. Related to this, I think people wanting to lose weight need to get out of the mindset of "treating" themselves with cheat days or meals when they have done a good job on their diet.  It perpetuates the bad habits, and never allows your mind/body to get rid of the cravings, or looking forward to eating junk.
Yep. Emotional eating, eating out of boredom and rewarding oneself with food and/or drink are unhealthy habits.

 
On the alcohol thing I was throwing you a bone as you seem to be pretty set against it (and with lots of good reasons).  My point on it is if you are going to drink, include it in your plan.

On cheats - I agree with you, don't use cheats as moderation - use them intentionally and don't make them regular IF you aren't making progress towards your goals.  I think you can alter your cheats if you want but be prepared to alter course if needed.
I’m not set against drinking, I just don’t understand the appeal. The mind-altering effects and culture don't seem worth it for me when weighed against the cost and potential for abuse. That being said, there’s no harm, and maybe even some benefit to drinking in moderation.

But it seems like many of the posters in this thread have at-risk drinking, binge drinking or full blown alcoholism. None of those are good, beyond just their impact on weight management.

 
Began my weight loss program in August. Started at 215#, and got down to 207# by September. Fell off the Keto wagon last week. Also got sick and decided to “feed the cold”. I figured that I had ruined my all of the weight loss over the past month and a half. 

Got on the scale yesterday and I’m down to 204#. 

:pickle:

 
But it seems like many of the posters in this thread have at-risk drinking, binge drinking or full blown alcoholism. None of those are good, beyond just their impact on weight management.
I've always been more of a social drinker and a cheapskate so I don't spend a lot on alcohol.  As I've been going through my own personal journey I did find that early on I would do some things that just were not worth it - having a beer or glass of bourbon when I would get home from work.  I still drink but not much (I can't because being on low carb I get intoxicated really quickly) and not often (I probably average 2-3 drinks a week on a normal week).

 
I have a recommendation for you desk bound guys.  I bought this under-the-desk exercise bike, and have been shedding the pounds since.  Pedal whenever you’re at your desk and the calories burnt and miles pedaled will add up quicker than you think.  To offset overheating I also put a fan under my desk that blows on my legs and balls.
Do I have to wear spandex shorts when using this or is that if I really want to shred some ounces?

 
Had a work retreat so missed my Tuesday weigh-in, but I was able to keep my eating in check and only had two beers the three days we were in Canada.

Got home about 4:00 PM today and had only had a cup of coffee, but I hit the scale at 250.6. Have an in-person interview on Monday and want my first impression to be, "eh, he could stand to lose some weight," not "better get the defibrillator ready."

In seven weeks (started July 24), I'm down 42.5 lbs. This pace isn't sustainable, but I'm going to keep it up as long as I can.
Keep up the good work.  I started 20 days before you and have lost 4.5 pounds less.  You are doing great. 

 
Wow I hate you.

I’m drunk at DFW.  Didn’t eat all day, but eating a bunch of red wine and oatmeal cookies in the Delta lounge. After a week of eating weird #### and drinking in a hotel room.  I did go to the gym this morning.  And in the mirror I observed that there’s lots of hunky muscle underneath all this— if I could lose 25-30 lbs of fat, I’d be a total stud.

Why can’t I just buy that?  

TIA 
Maybe try that fat freezing thing.

Coolsculpting is the name, I believe.

 
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Wow I hate you.

I’m drunk at DFW.  Didn’t eat all day, but eating a bunch of red wine and oatmeal cookies in the Delta lounge. After a week of eating weird #### and drinking in a hotel room.  I did go to the gym this morning.  And in the mirror I observed that there’s lots of hunky muscle underneath all this— if I could lose 25-30 lbs of fat, I’d be a total stud.

Why can’t I just buy that?  

TIA 
Look into liposuction.  I'm assuming that is still a thing for fat rich broads.  Should work on fat rich dudes too.  

 
I've always been more of a social drinker and a cheapskate so I don't spend a lot on alcohol.  As I've been going through my own personal journey I did find that early on I would do some things that just were not worth it - having a beer or glass of bourbon when I would get home from work.  I still drink but not much (I can't because being on low carb I get intoxicated really quickly) and not often (I probably average 2-3 drinks a week on a normal week).
The volume of fluid alone is enough to make consuming alcohol unappealing. I usually drink a glass or two of water max per meal. No way I could down bottles of wine, multiple beers, etc. I know it has a diuretic effect, but it’s hard for me to imagine eating a meal on top of all that liquid.

 
234.0 this morning. 

Kind of frustrating. Ran multiple times this week, stayed healthy, and even did a 16/8 IF. I noticed with the IF I tend to consume more carbs at lunch (since I usually have a headache from the fast) so maybe that was the difference. Did MFP though and I beat my caloric goal everyday. 

Oh well, gotta keep at it through the weekend. 

 
234.0 this morning. 

Kind of frustrating. Ran multiple times this week, stayed healthy, and even did a 16/8 IF. I noticed with the IF I tend to consume more carbs at lunch (since I usually have a headache from the fast) so maybe that was the difference. Did MFP though and I beat my caloric goal everyday. 

Oh well, gotta keep at it through the weekend. 
^^^That. The problem isn't what you did Mon-Thu. The problem is what you did over the weekend. I read your post a few days ago, which was very similar to one the week prior, and thought to myself - it's probably fine for maintenance purposes, but not if the goal is to lose. All of those pounds you lost at the beginning are because of Mon-Thu changes, but now you're in a stalling pattern until you make weekend corrections - and sustain them.

 
^^^That. The problem isn't what you did Mon-Thu. The problem is what you did over the weekend. I read your post a few days ago, which was very similar to one the week prior, and thought to myself - it's probably fine for maintenance purposes, but not if the goal is to lose. All of those pounds you lost at the beginning are because of Mon-Thu changes, but now you're in a stalling pattern until you make weekend corrections - and sustain them.
Great post.  Don't know I'd this is common but it fits me too.   I do good for most of the day or for a few days in a row and the weight loss strops or stalls for a bit until I string great days together again.   It's not easy to lose weight.  Play the long game and stick to it trying to win each day.  

 
Great post.  Don't know I'd this is common but it fits me too.   I do good for most of the day or for a few days in a row and the weight loss strops or stalls for a bit until I string great days together again.   It's not easy to lose weight.  Play the long game and stick to it trying to win each day.  
To expand - it's important to anticipate when a bad day or two may be coming and adapt. We are going out Sat night and are having a couple dozen people over Sunday. Not much good is going to be consumed over that 24 hour stretch. So I said to my wife Sunday when we were figuring out our week that despite a very busy schedule healthy eating needed to be a priority. So when I went to the store later that day, despite basically already being out of it, I bought zero pantry food - much to our kids chagrin. Then my wife started hammering away at meal prep but pastas, breads, casseroles, etc. weren't to be a part of it. Now we're starting playing from ahead going into Saturday, so by the middle of next week we should be back to where we are now rather than what we were 4 days ago.

If there isn't going to be any cheating on a weekend then a mid-week vice or two shouldn't impede progress (in moderation of course), but if there are plans then you need to be both proactive and reactive; not just reactive.

 
survived the raider game.  one of the best times, i have ever had, at a game.   :banned:   

the maintenance program has begun!  the main goal, is less booze.  it's all lame, dead calories.  and the drinking, leads to eating crap.  it will be interesting to see if simply drinking less booze will send me south of #180.  i'm the best man in a wedding, in cabo, at the end of oct.  not planning on drinking much until then.  keep it up people!

 
272.  Of course tomorrow is my official weigh in day but maybe I got another pound this week.  Damn it is slow after 60, but so long as it is steady that will have to do.

 
survived the raider game.  one of the best times, i have ever had, at a game.   :banned:   

the maintenance program has begun!  the main goal, is less booze.  it's all lame, dead calories.  and the drinking, leads to eating crap.  it will be interesting to see if simply drinking less booze will send me south of #180.  i'm the best man in a wedding, in cabo, at the end of oct.  not planning on drinking much until then.  keep it up people!
Less booze is a major part of my plan as well, and I've stuck to it this week.  

I'm weighing myself only once a week, on Sundays, so I just had my first weigh in.  Down five pounds in six days.  Of course I know that rate will not be (and should not be) sustained, but it's encouraging to see actual progress in such a short time.

 
Cutting out carbs starting tomorrow.  Really just going to avoid bread, sugars, and other carbs other than those you find in vegetables.  Going to try and stay under 20 carbs at least initially and get into ketosis.  It's the only thing that has ever seemingly worked.  (Well, the potato thing worked...)

Going to stick with the new booze plan on weekdays, which is basically, if we drink, we only have a couple Bud Select 55s or white wine spritzers (half white, half seltzer and ice).  Hard to get into trouble that way -- can't get drunk, can't drink too many calories, can't feel bad in the morning. 

Otherwise going to try and have lots of eggs, lean meats, cheeses, avocados, and some green vegetables.  May have to figure out some of the keto bomb crap the guys in the keto thread make, all of which sound great but also sound like work.

Going to Puerto Rico with the family in February.   There's no reason I can't lose 30lbs between now and then, and be at my goal.  That's less than 2lbs per week on average.  

 
Cutting out carbs starting tomorrow.  Really just going to avoid bread, sugars, and other carbs other than those you find in vegetables.  Going to try and stay under 20 carbs at least initially and get into ketosis.  It's the only thing that has ever seemingly worked.  (Well, the potato thing worked...)

Going to stick with the new booze plan on weekdays, which is basically, if we drink, we only have a couple Bud Select 55s or white wine spritzers (half white, half seltzer and ice).  Hard to get into trouble that way -- can't get drunk, can't drink too many calories, can't feel bad in the morning. 

Otherwise going to try and have lots of eggs, lean meats, cheeses, avocados, and some green vegetables.  May have to figure out some of the keto bomb crap the guys in the keto thread make, all of which sound great but also sound like work.

Going to Puerto Rico with the family in February.   There's no reason I can't lose 30lbs between now and then, and be at my goal.  That's less than 2lbs per week on average.  
Thirty pounds in not necessarily out of the question but it's not realistic knowing your history.  Why not choose a goal that is possible that doesn't require huge changes in your life style?   How about 10 pound by Thanksgiving and then 10 more by Feb?   The holidays are rough on diets too.  I can't imagine any weight is loss in December.    Not gaining weight should be the goal for that month.  

 
Thirty pounds in not necessarily out of the question but it's not realistic knowing your history.  Why not choose a goal that is possible that doesn't require huge changes in your life style?   How about 10 pound by Thanksgiving and then 10 more by Feb?   The holidays are rough on diets too.  I can't imagine any weight is loss in December.    Not gaining weight should be the goal for that month.  
B/c otis is a big balla and such a small number is not going to move the needle.    And :lol:   to losing weight during the holidays.   

 
Not to mention those 3 Select 55s that's in your plan is 10 carbs right there. Should help you keep under 20 no problem.....
I think they’re only 2 carbs a pop. So that would be like 6g of carbs. 

Edit-I was wrong. 1.8g of carbs. So that’s 5.4g for 3. 

 
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Not sure where you’re looking, but I went to Budweiser.com. It’s 1.8. 
Even though I searched Bud Select 55, it came up with that number for Bud Select and I didn't notice. 

You're right, it's 1.9g. So that's much better that you'd only be drinking 6g of your 20g limit. If you stop at 3, of course. With no other drinks. 

 
Even though I searched Bud Select 55, it came up with that number for Bud Select and I didn't notice. 

You're right, it's 1.9g. So that's much better that you'd only be drinking 6g of your 20g limit. If you stop at 3, of course. With no other drinks. 
What if I just had one or two per night?  Then we're at under 4g.  Or under 2g.

Isn't it better than what I've been doing?  Let's face it, I'm not going to start eating like Michael Phelps overnight.  

 
240.1

26.1%

Here we go  

One day at a time. 

Today started off with coffee. Will have a piece of salmon for lunch with some sparkling water. Maybe some nuts and another sparkling water for my train commute home. Will figure out dinner when I get there.

 
240.1

26.1%

Here we go  

One day at a time. 

Today started off with coffee. Will have a piece of salmon for lunch with some sparkling water. Maybe some nuts and another sparkling water for my train commute home. Will figure out dinner when I get there.
So...you've gained more weight since you "started"? 

Good luck GB

 
Official weigh in day has me at 273.  I should not have had chicken wings yesterday, or nuts.  Normally on game day I am good for 20 wings, I went with only 13, still that is a huge fat bomb and I salt the #### out of them so that does not help the next day.  Improved behavior over my historical norm, but not in line with what I have been doing.  Not a huge deal, I will forge ahead and next week during games just try to establish a vegetable habit instead of a wing habit.

 
Otis must not be traveling this week. Not to worry, he'll be back to normal immediately after whenever that happens.

 
Otis must not be traveling this week. Not to worry, he'll be back to normal immediately after whenever that happens.
I think this time he makes it.  he is at the age where drinking can be forsaken for a time.  that is hard in ones hard partying 20's, but more doable at his current stage.  He is hewing to that concept even as we speak.

 
Official weigh in day has me at 273.  I should not have had chicken wings yesterday, or nuts.  Normally on game day I am good for 20 wings, I went with only 13, still that is a huge fat bomb and I salt the #### out of them so that does not help the next day.  Improved behavior over my historical norm, but not in line with what I have been doing.  Not a huge deal, I will forge ahead and next week during games just try to establish a vegetable habit instead of a wing habit.
Hey, brother, i go through this, as well. I only weigh myself once a week and sometimes the fluctuations up and down make it seem like the losses aren't happening, or are happening really slowly. The thing is, i can tell by how my body feels/looks and esp. how my clothes fit, that the weight is coming off. So, don't be discouraged. Something i do during those times is weigh myself every day for a few days, at different times of day, so I can see how wildly weight fluctuates, and it satisfies that thing in my brain that craves external validation of success. It works for me. It also makes me really conscious of my intent to treat my body better. 

 
Hey, brother, i go through this, as well. I only weigh myself once a week and sometimes the fluctuations up and down make it seem like the losses aren't happening, or are happening really slowly. The thing is, i can tell by how my body feels/looks and esp. how my clothes fit, that the weight is coming off. So, don't be discouraged. Something i do during those times is weigh myself every day for a few days, at different times of day, so I can see how wildly weight fluctuates, and it satisfies that thing in my brain that craves external validation of success. It works for me. It also makes me really conscious of my intent to treat my body better. 
I have fairly firmly established daily and weekly cycles.  the thing is I just had new Sunday behavior (actually old but the first time this year) and that may be adjusting my cycles.  Need to keep Sunday what it has been these last 9 weeks or so, which is a healthy day, not one where I habit eat during ball games.  I think I need to change my game habit to not reclining but to watching from the saddle of an exercise bike.  Reclining allows for endless unhealthy snacking, riding, not so much.

It is about establishing healthy habits and extinguishing counterproductive ones.  I can live just fine without wings, or I could grill them and sauce them with just hot sauce, no hot sauce/butter mix.  Or, as I said, I can not snack, or can learn to snack on veggies.

 
ProstheticRGK said:
Hey, brother, i go through this, as well. I only weigh myself once a week and sometimes the fluctuations up and down make it seem like the losses aren't happening, or are happening really slowly. The thing is, i can tell by how my body feels/looks and esp. how my clothes fit, that the weight is coming off. So, don't be discouraged. Something i do during those times is weigh myself every day for a few days, at different times of day, so I can see how wildly weight fluctuates, and it satisfies that thing in my brain that craves external validation of success. It works for me. It also makes me really conscious of my intent to treat my body better. 
I wonder if my oven, with a convection setting and capability, is essentially an air fryer that I have not been using.  Seems like the same concept.

 
I've learned pretty much all food is crap if I don't make it myself from raw ingredients. 
this.  i went out to dinner last night.  crab cakes(waiter was useless, they were heavily breaded, would not have ordered.  ate anyway), chicken piccata with sautéed spinach.  water only.  not bad, but if i, and by i, i mean my awesome wife, had made this same meal at home, it would have been better for me.  and probably have tasted better as well.  i was craving a glass of wine, but stayed the course.

 
Otis said:
Any of you fatties wanna throw some money where your big cakeholes are?
Sure. Wat ha got?

229.1 this morning. First to drop 20?

 
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Get a cheap smoker (<$100) and smoke the wings.  I prefer my smoked wings over any fried wings.  
I will have to work on my technique.  Whenever I smoke chicken I think I do it a bit to low and though the meat comes out wonderful the skin is rubbery rather than crisp, and with wings, well they are half skin.

 

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