AAABatteries
Footballguy
Yep - this was me. Fatty liver, high glucose, borderline diabetic, borderline high BP. I was on my way to an early death or really sucky quality of life. And it was 100% due to my diet.
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Terminalxylem
Footballguy
It’s likely both sucky quality and quantity of life. It’s been studied. End of life almost invariably involves some suffering. But those who adopt healthy habits not only prolong their life, perhaps more importantly, they diminish the suffering at the end. Both are impacted by several years, not to mention minimizing aches and pains, fatigue and many other symptoms for decades if a healthy weight is maintained.
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
Family bike ride even if you have to tow them, actually so much the better.Zow said:
Walk with them to the park and play a bit of soccer.
Family swim at the pool.
All quality time with a bit of physical activity for you. Also, if going to the pool and seeing some of the hot young mothers while exposing your dad bod in a swimsuit is not motivating I don't know what is.
MAC_32
Footballguy
You are. You just don't realize it because you're focused on the short game and not the long game. I'm fine right now, so I will always be fine even if I keep carrying around this extra pouch. It isn't anyone's place to tell anyone else how to enjoy their lives, but that mindset is quite simply wrong. Your poor health decisions over the last two decades will catch up to you. The only question is when.
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
I am up at 4:30. Being a farm kid on a dairy farm that habit sort of stuck, and now being an old man with an old man's prostate, well I have to get up to piss anyhow. I go down to the basement. I have hung two chains from the ceiling shoulder width apart. I put some straps on them for handles. I got them from Home Depot. I do assisted squats, using my arms to pull myself back up as well as my legs. 200 of those is a decent arm/leg workout. I do my 50 pushups and then ride the exercise bike for 30 minutes while catching up on news and sports. I'm showered, into work by 6:30 and I start my day in a still quiet office knowing I have at least a minimal, sustaining workout already in. I have a yogurt and a bit of salmon and am ready for what the day brings without an eventual workout hanging over my head.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
I just decided there's no reason to wait until I'm back from vacation to start the additional exercise portion of this. So, looking for some suggestions/input. Here is what I'm thinking right now:
Weekly
Weekly
- 175,000 steps a week - average of 25k daily - I would try for 25k daily but there will be days I do over that (like tomorrow when I'm out doing an AT segment) and some days where I will just walk a lot
- 5 days a weeks running
- 5 days a week lifting
- 250 pushups
- 250 squats (no weight)
- 250 abs (50 Spiderman plank crunches; 50 leg lifts; 50 floor wipers; 50 ab bicycles; 50 teasers
- will change this up but will start with these)
- Stretching - need to get more consistent with this and will need it during these 7 weeks
- 100 oz of water
MAC_32
Footballguy
Prioritization. If you prioritize the time to exercise then you can get it done. I get that not everybody has the means to exercise over lunch, but I'm referring to facilities. Lunch meetings or a work crisis aren't reasons. They're excuses. Schedule the time to do it and get it done. The work problem will still be there an hour later and you can attack it then with a fresh mind. The lunch meeting can be scheduled at another time. If it can't then it wasn't a priority anyway. Sure, emergencies intervene, but we're talking once every few weeks, per month, or more. If it's more frequent than that then it isn't an emergency; it's the norm. After work is a different animal, but generally speaking if you really want to find the time to exercise you can. It's on you to want to find that time though. However it fits the schedule.
The problem with the early morning workout is cumulative. Unless you're going to bed at 9 pm then fatigue is inevitable. Rest is paramount to good health, so if you're not getting it then it will spill into the other areas critical for good health - diet, exercise, stress, etc. A one-off here and there if the day got away from you or you anticipate that one to get away from you - no worries. Habitual? Only if you're early to bed. If you're only getting 5-6 hours of sleep then it's counter productive.
Man, this mindset just elicits a never ending stream of eyerolls. I've never once looked at an email sent at 5 am, or 9 pm, or over the weekend, or while I know someone is on vacation and think to myself I need to work as hard as this guy. I see that and I say to myself this guy needs to take a break from work. Again, emergencies happen. But when it's the norm? That's a problem.
The Iguana
Footballguy
For the record, 'diet' wise I have totally focused on creating sustainable changes. I didn't want any fad type thing that would just go away after a few pounds did. Typical food intake for me looks something like this:
Weekdays
Breakfast - cliff bar, banana, water/ice tea/occasional diet soda
Lunch - pack it - sandwich, leftovers, etc from home - this is a big factor. Very limited going out to eat.
Dinner - mostly about putting slightly smaller portions on the plate and/or not taking a second, third, fourth helping.
Snacks - often a mid-morning or mid-afternoon measured portion of trail mix.
Big keys - skip the donut box "most days" when someone brings them into the office. No breakfast sandwich from McDonald's or going out for lunch - so easy to add a ridiculous number of calories going to McCallister's or Qdoba or any other location.
Weekends are a little less structured but once the above became a habit for the regular week, the weekend "cheats" have become much less. Summer time still involves occasional family trips to the ice cream shop and/or a few beers here and there, thus me just maintaining for the last few months instead of continuing to lose.
As for working out - I first started doing lunch times. I have some flexibility in the office as well as an on-site gym and locker room. I could go run 2.5 or 3 miles at lunch, get a shower, and be back at my desk in about an hour. Then I'd just eat lunch at my desk while catching up email and the like.
Totally helps that my wife is "on the train" too and that my kid's are now basically grown. We joined the Y which gives access to gyms around the city for convenience and go as a family once or twice a week as well as doing things independently.
Weekdays
Breakfast - cliff bar, banana, water/ice tea/occasional diet soda
Lunch - pack it - sandwich, leftovers, etc from home - this is a big factor. Very limited going out to eat.
Dinner - mostly about putting slightly smaller portions on the plate and/or not taking a second, third, fourth helping.
Snacks - often a mid-morning or mid-afternoon measured portion of trail mix.
Big keys - skip the donut box "most days" when someone brings them into the office. No breakfast sandwich from McDonald's or going out for lunch - so easy to add a ridiculous number of calories going to McCallister's or Qdoba or any other location.
Weekends are a little less structured but once the above became a habit for the regular week, the weekend "cheats" have become much less. Summer time still involves occasional family trips to the ice cream shop and/or a few beers here and there, thus me just maintaining for the last few months instead of continuing to lose.
As for working out - I first started doing lunch times. I have some flexibility in the office as well as an on-site gym and locker room. I could go run 2.5 or 3 miles at lunch, get a shower, and be back at my desk in about an hour. Then I'd just eat lunch at my desk while catching up email and the like.
Totally helps that my wife is "on the train" too and that my kid's are now basically grown. We joined the Y which gives access to gyms around the city for convenience and go as a family once or twice a week as well as doing things independently.
MAC_32
Footballguy
Quality > quantity. I think you'll get more out of it if you press beyond 250 push ups one day then take the next day off. Then try to beat that number then take the next day off. For squats, do less of them - but use weights. Talking just dumb bells here. Same with lunges, as long as the knee is behaving anyway. Then instead of increasing the total # - try to increase the number within each set. Also, after several weeks replace those exercises with something different. As you do this routine over-and-over again your body will adapt to the movements and they will become naturally easier. But then come back to this routine later.I just decided there's no reason to wait until I'm back from vacation to start the additional exercise portion of this. So, looking for some suggestions/input. Here is what I'm thinking right now:
Weekly
Daily
- 175,000 steps a week - average of 25k daily - I would try for 25k daily but there will be days I do over that (like tomorrow when I'm out doing an AT segment) and some days where I will just walk a lot
- 5 days a weeks running
- 5 days a week lifting
STARTING NOW!
- 250 pushups
- 250 squats (no weight)
- 250 abs (50 Spiderman plank crunches; 50 leg lifts; 50 floor wipers; 50 ab bicycles; 50 teasers
- Stretching - need to get more consistent with this and will need it during these 7 weeks
- 100 oz of water
I think water is more a function of what you're doing that particular day. You need more on heavy exercise days, especially when hot/humid. You need less on lighter exercise days, especially when it's cooler and/or drier.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
This was why I was doing no weights. My knee is still being a little finicky. Good suggestions on the rest - will incorporate as I go.
The Iguana
Footballguy
As a matter of fact, there are multiple times that I've had people send emails like that and my first response is generally "you need to get a life!" or some other comment indicating that they are just doing it wrong. I work IT and have always (until recently) had support related work that was necessary. So, taking a call in the evening or overnight and reacting to emergencies has always been part of my work. But huge difference between reacting to events when needed and working until 10pm or up at some ridiculous hour.
I've had times that crazy hours are necessary and will do them when needed but if that's an all the time thing... forget that. As someone above said, I'm definitely a "work to live" not a "live to work" guy. I highly value my family and free time.
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
I'm exhausted just reading that. I think the mere thought of your routine has me burning calories.I just decided there's no reason to wait until I'm back from vacation to start the additional exercise portion of this. So, looking for some suggestions/input. Here is what I'm thinking right now:
Weekly
Daily
- 175,000 steps a week - average of 25k daily - I would try for 25k daily but there will be days I do over that (like tomorrow when I'm out doing an AT segment) and some days where I will just walk a lot
- 5 days a weeks running
- 5 days a week lifting
STARTING NOW!
- 250 pushups
- 250 squats (no weight)
- 250 abs (50 Spiderman plank crunches; 50 leg lifts; 50 floor wipers; 50 ab bicycles; 50 teasers
- Stretching - need to get more consistent with this and will need it during these 7 weeks
- 100 oz of water
Probably too aggressive on the steps. That’s 12.5 miles a dayI just decided there's no reason to wait until I'm back from vacation to start the additional exercise portion of this. So, looking for some suggestions/input. Here is what I'm thinking right now:
Weekly
Daily
- 175,000 steps a week - average of 25k daily - I would try for 25k daily but there will be days I do over that (like tomorrow when I'm out doing an AT segment) and some days where I will just walk a lot
- 5 days a weeks running
- 5 days a week lifting
STARTING NOW!
- 250 pushups
- 250 squats (no weight)
- 250 abs (50 Spiderman plank crunches; 50 leg lifts; 50 floor wipers; 50 ab bicycles; 50 teasers
- Stretching - need to get more consistent with this and will need it during these 7 weeks
- 100 oz of water
anyway, that’s pretty hardcore. I applaud your plan
AAABatteries
Footballguy
I want a stretch goal - I'm not opposed to walking most of that and I have access to a walking desk/treadmill at work. I've done 175k in a week before and that was when I wasn't in shape. Definitely will push me but that's the plan.
Zow
Footballguy
I'm trying to figure out how to tactfully respond to this without sounding like a ##### or sounding like I'm overvaluing my job/devaluing other jobs, but while some of my work may be able to be left for the next day, if I have a client facing the rest of his life in prison and there's work for me to do to prevent that from happening, I don't get to just quit that just because the clock strikes 5:00 PM.
Zow
Footballguy
It's not rushed.Sounds like serious work that shouldn't be rushed late at night while you're tired. Any mistake or ill advice could be very detrimental to your client.
Also, 9:00 PM is when I best channel my inner-Matlock.
xulf
Footballguy
For you go-go-go type of workers. I was in that mindset not too long ago. I was trying to chase happiness by acquiring things (degrees, wealth, whatever) and the more I achieved the less happy I became. I had it all on paper and everything I set out for in life --- a well paying job, fancy degrees, great wife, 2 kids, 2 dogs, nice house in a very nice area, etc. While I didn't lose any of those things, I have a different outlook on life. I am no longer chasing anything, but letting life come to me - and actually enjoying it.
This may fall on deaf ears, and each person needs to find their own way...but this book is a good read When All You've Ever Wanted Isn't Enough
This may fall on deaf ears, and each person needs to find their own way...but this book is a good read When All You've Ever Wanted Isn't Enough
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MAC_32
Footballguy
You need to figure out what is best for you. You need to figure out what your priorities are. Like I said, emergencies happen. If emergencies happen every day then it's not an emergency. It's normal. If ^^^that happens all the time then you need to plan as if it will then adjust accordingly. You can't plan as if you'll exercise later then say 'nah' when you end up working later than you want to; but as late as you often do. If it's a one-off like we all deal with from time-to-time then it really isn't the problem; it's just an excuse.
If you really intend to prioritize your health then you need to change something within your process. If you say you want to prioritize your health, but don't make any changes to your process then you're really not prioritizing your health.
Otis
Footballguy
World needs ditch diggers too!
I hear you. We all make choices, and we’re all wired differently. Just is what it is.
And as to this: “Lunch meetings or a work crisis aren't reasons. They're excuses.” — you’re about a thousand percent wrong. In certain lines of work you’d be run out of town instantly I’d instead of a work emergency you told everyone you can’t make it because it’s leg day. Just a no go. Not sure what world this would fly in.
Zow
Footballguy
MAC_32
Footballguy
A work emergency, no. If you have a work emergency every day then it's not an emergency. It's normal work.
Otis has patents to litigate while the Chinese steal everything anyway. That's worth missing leg day bro.
Terminalxylem
Footballguy
What percentage of your cases involve such life-altering consequences? Are you suggesting the bulk of your long hours are spent on time-sensitive, critical matters?
Your example certainly qualifies, but in general I think most people overvalue how important their work is, and how indispensable they are in a job getting done correctly.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Day 1 in the books:
- 20,102 steps (9.6 miles)
- 200 pushups - stopped at 200 because the last 20 were a struggle and didn’t want to risk it
- 250 squats - CHECK
- 180 abs (10 Spiderman plank crunches; 50 leg lifts; 20 floor wipers; 50 ab bicycles; 50 teasers - floor wipers were tough on my back, will swap those out; Spider-Man plank crunch made me realize how tight my hips are)
- Stretching - CHECK
- 100 oz of water - CHECK
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
that's a really short workout...unless the gym is 5 minutes away.
you need more cardio, than weights. since you refuse, to really do anything about booze and food (NTTAWWT
), you need to combat that, with painful amounts of cardio. think of it this way, for every bottle of wine at the delta lounge, that equals, at least! a solid hour, of DIFFICULT cardio. that means you are nearly breathless, can't really talk, this sucks, you're dripping sweat. i drink too much. i'm drinking right now. @krista4
however, i will do 30 minutes of ####ty ### cardio tomorrow. plus, do a 6x6 total body workout. and, spend at least 10 minutes in the 180+ degree sauna. tomorrow will be workout number 14 for the month. weighed in at 183.1 today. this #### ain't easy.
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DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
that's one hell of a goal!!!AAABatteries said:I just decided there's no reason to wait until I'm back from vacation to start the additional exercise portion of this. So, looking for some suggestions/input. Here is what I'm thinking right now:
Weekly
Daily
- 175,000 steps a week - average of 25k daily - I would try for 25k daily but there will be days I do over that (like tomorrow when I'm out doing an AT segment) and some days where I will just walk a lot
- 5 days a weeks running
- 5 days a week lifting
STARTING NOW!
- 250 pushups
- 250 squats (no weight)
- 250 abs (50 Spiderman plank crunches; 50 leg lifts; 50 floor wipers; 50 ab bicycles; 50 teasers
- Stretching - need to get more consistent with this and will need it during these 7 weeks
- 100 oz of water
here are my lame iPhone measurements, over the last month.
avg 9397 steps a day. with 21 flights of stairs a day. i climb a lot of stairs at work.
avg 1:15 hours a day working out
i incorporate a lot of core/ab work into all of my workouts. 5-10 minutes on core, every work out.
i stretch every day. i can easily put my hands on the ground, and still think i am WAY to tight. tom brady has this one right. as you age, being flexible is KEY.
i like the isometric stuff a lot. part of my 6x6 workout tomorrow includes a painful amount of very lightly weighted squats and a grip of push ups.
i easily drink 128+ ounces of water a day. other than a cup of coffee and whatever booze i might ingest, water is all i drink.
LETS GO!!
Terminalxylem
Footballguy
I found the study. Can't link the whole article, but the results were super interesting imo. They followed over 5000 people age 65+ over 26 years, and assessed lifespan + years free from severe debility in the context of healthy vs. unhealthy lifestyle choices (BMI, alcohol and tobacco use, exercise and social support).Terminalxylem said:
For healthy men, average life expectancy increased from 12.7 to 17.4 years, while duration of severe debility decreased from 4 to 2.3 years. That's severe disability, like inability to walk short distances, bathe, dress or feed oneself. Add in all the chronic medical problems associated with obesity, doctor visits, medication, etc. and it's an easy choice to sacrifice short term pleasure/convenience for longevity and functionality.
Otis
Footballguy
Lots of wrong here.that's a really short workout...unless the gym is 5 minutes away.
you need more cardio, than weights. since you refuse, to really do anything about booze and food (NTTAWWT
i drink too much. i'm drinking right now. @krista4
- 40-50 minutes in the gym is plenty (yes, the gym is 5 minutes from my house)
- No I don't need more cardio than weights. I think weights are far more important than cardio, both for weight loss, and for maintaining functional strength and mobility as we age. I think the people putting tens of miles of pounding on their knees every week jogging are a little crazy.
- We've dispelled this a thousand times in here. You'll never offset poor eating with cardio. The right solution is to eat well.
- I do, however, get cardio, and "steps," in, to the extent I walk quite a bit during my commute every day to/from the train station, through train stations, through transfers, etc. It's not like I'm a dude who rolls myself into my car, rolls out of the car into a cubicle, and does the reverse in the evening.
By the way, I know the above works for me because I did it, a long time ago. I felt and looked better than ever in my life. I didn't do really any cardio, heck, or really even much in terms of weights. It was very lean eating, cutting the drinking, and bodyweight exercises (push ups, and pull ups when I could eventually do them). I think that's the right solution for 90% of the population. I doubt there are very many people in good shape who are pounding down entire pizzas each night but then simply burning it off with a 30 mile run in the morning
Otis
Footballguy
Last night was my first night of temptation. The fridge, I guess from last weekend, had some leftover pizza that I wanted badly, along with some french onion dip and ridged potato chips. This was a couple hours after dinner. If this were a month ago, I'd have thrown two slices of pizza into the toaster, and while I waited, I'd have pounded handfuls of chips and french onion dip.
Poured a seltzer. Had a piece of cheddar cheese. Went to bed.
Poured a seltzer. Had a piece of cheddar cheese. Went to bed.
ChiefD
Footballguy
I lost 22 pounds 7 years ago doing nothing but running. And have kept it off all that time, doing nothing but running.
Cardio works.
MAC_32
Footballguy
Sure, adapt or die. You need to adapt to your realities. If your only avenue for working out is 5 am then you need to go to bed at 9 pm. If you won't go to bed at 9 pm then you need to eliminate something from your agenda.
The Iguana
Footballguy
- as long as you are focused and working 40-50 minutes is plenty of time to get a good workout in - we have a gym here at work and there are many a time I've done a combo of weight and cardio over lunch (see next bullet), had a shower, and gotten back to the desk in an hour(ish).
- actually a good mix of cardio and lifting is probably the best bet - develop muscle tone and burn calories. Also, there's plenty of ways to get in both together and without all the abuse on your knees running does. crossfit-esque workouts do a great job of combining both and often without the stress of running. In that hour +/- you spend at the gym you could combine lifting/body weight exercises with some rowing or stationary bike to get the heart rate up and get the lifting in. Not required but a good option if you want to add it in.
- If weight loss is the goal, then it is is almost totally about controlling intake. Better diet is really the key but, again, combining both better diet with higher activity levels is the best way to get the most gains... or rather loss, if that is the goal.
You can get in shape/lose weight without cardio but that isn't to say cardio can't play a huge role, IMO. A lot just depends on your goals. After I do the marathon I'm training for, I'd really like to focus some more on weight training/body weight exercises. I want to keep the cardio and running because I've had just fun with it, but I really want to do more weights - I do some now - at least 1 day a week doing actual weights but also do some body weight stuff regularly too - mostly push ups, sit ups, planks. As I type that, however, I should note that I've given a bit short shift on the the core stuff and I can tell the difference. Need to get back to that more seriously.
MAC_32
Footballguy
For a guy that has absolutely no idea how to get and stay healthy I get a good laugh when you talk in absolutes about...how to stay healthy.
I used strength training to compliment, but like @ChiefD my means to weight loss was running. The periods weight comes back? Directly coincide with periods with less miles ran.
Your problem is your mindset is narrow, all-or-nothing. Full Bale, Potato Hack, Vegan!
You think 'more cardio' means only cardio. No. That's not it all. It's it for some, but it's certainly not an absolute. I don't think you'll ever undo that mindset because you have no interest in doing so, but this isn't a micro solution; it's macro. You weren't in good shape before because you only did strength training. You were in better shape because you were eating well and cut the drinking. What @DA RAIDERS said is absolutely correct. Have a bad day? Put yourself through a Hell-ish cardio workout (without injury!) and you'll undo a lot of the bad...as long as you don't then go home and pantry raid again. Balance. It's all about balance. BlOtis doesn't do balance though. It's all-in with a side of excuse making and the inevitable breakdown...because health is not a priority. Which is why you always fail.
The Iguana
Footballguy
Cardio does work, but it's not the only way. As I've noted here and in the running thread, I've lost 40 pounds (closing in on 45) over the last year and that was almost all running. But I actually got "on the workout wagon" a few years ago. About 7 years ago (+/-) I started at about 240 and I actually made it down to 202 ever so briefly before falling off the wagon and eventually getting back up to 235. That involved some cardio but really I was lifting like I had never lifted before. I was really into crossfit, which they still have classes for here at work - there's a cardio factor involved there but it's really a ton about weights. I definitely had more strength and such doing that than the mostly all running I've done this time.
There's plenty of ways to get to the same spot. Just depends on what all your goals are. However, regardless of the workout plan you are on, it's going to be mostly about intake if weight loss in your goal. Exercise definitely helps with a lot of stuff, but not if you aren't controlling diet. Heck, let me go grab my weigh in info as proof...
DocHolliday
Footballguy
Things got real serious in here.
The Iguana
Footballguy
Date weight body fat*
7/1: 235 30.8%
8/1: 232 29.9%
9/1: 230 29.8%
10/1: 229 29.5%
11/1: 224 28.3%
12/1: 222 28.2%
1/1: 219 27.4%
2/1: 213 26.2%
3/1: 205 24.5%
4/1: 200 23.6%
5/1: 199 23.6%
6/2: 200 23.4%
7/1: 199 23.4%
8/1: 198 23.1%
9/1: 196 22.6%
Take the "body fat %" with a grain of salt. My scale is crappy at measuring it. Back in March I did a "bod pod" thing that is supposed to be very accurate and it had me at about 18.5% body fat then rather than the 24.5% this has. But all that comes from the same place. Basically from April until the last month or so, I've stayed completely flat in weight loss but body fat has continued to improve. I kept working out for almost that entire time but the difference is in eating.
Nice weather rolled around and I've gone out to eat more, had a few more beers, taken the family out for ice cream, etc.
The period of most loss - January to April - I started seriously training for a couple of half marathons. I was very careful with what I ate AND I was running quite a bit. April until August was all about just "maintaining", IMO. Starting the end of July I started getting serious about training again and started being a little more careful about intake. Currently weighing in at about 192-ish and around 22% body fat. Really want to have a "real" measurement of body fat again. My scale does a craptastic job of measuring it.
7/1: 235 30.8%
8/1: 232 29.9%
9/1: 230 29.8%
10/1: 229 29.5%
11/1: 224 28.3%
12/1: 222 28.2%
1/1: 219 27.4%
2/1: 213 26.2%
3/1: 205 24.5%
4/1: 200 23.6%
5/1: 199 23.6%
6/2: 200 23.4%
7/1: 199 23.4%
8/1: 198 23.1%
9/1: 196 22.6%
Take the "body fat %" with a grain of salt. My scale is crappy at measuring it. Back in March I did a "bod pod" thing that is supposed to be very accurate and it had me at about 18.5% body fat then rather than the 24.5% this has. But all that comes from the same place. Basically from April until the last month or so, I've stayed completely flat in weight loss but body fat has continued to improve. I kept working out for almost that entire time but the difference is in eating.
Nice weather rolled around and I've gone out to eat more, had a few more beers, taken the family out for ice cream, etc.
The period of most loss - January to April - I started seriously training for a couple of half marathons. I was very careful with what I ate AND I was running quite a bit. April until August was all about just "maintaining", IMO. Starting the end of July I started getting serious about training again and started being a little more careful about intake. Currently weighing in at about 192-ish and around 22% body fat. Really want to have a "real" measurement of body fat again. My scale does a craptastic job of measuring it.
MAC_32
Footballguy
What works for you may not work for me and what works for me may not work Chief and what works for us won't work for BlOtis because he doesn't really care. There are many different ways to get in shape and stay that way. Ultimately you need to do what works best for you. I think anecdotal examples can be over whelming to someone legitimately trying to figure it out because they get different answers depending on who they talk to.
Me- I don't lose weight when I strength train more. It has to do with intake, but that intake is necessary to get my body ready for the next workout. I've been able to integrate IF into my regimen the last 6 weeks as the miles have piled up because some of those days are easy. I'm not comfortable sitting here right now typing this out, but I have a light lift scheduled early afternoon and a very easy run scheduled for sometime after work. I don't need much fueling to get through today and I still want to lose a few more lbs before race day in November - so it's a 16/8 day. When I'm doing more intense lifting I can't eat like this or else my workout will be poor. I think I'm learning to adapt to the seasons though.
Bull Dozier
Footballguy
I've lost about 20 lbs this year and haven't done an ounce of cardio.
A lot of things "work" but people need to find the things that work for them, be it their schedule or their preferences. There is no one size fits all when it comes to losing weight and getting healthier.
The Iguana
Footballguy
Ton of truth in the bolded. Kind of a double edged sword kind of thing for me, however. When I'm on the wagon, having discussions about this stuff is generally a motivating and definitely helpful to figure out what other things I want to incorporate into the mix. But it is also very much overwhelming thinking about getting into it and going from "where I am" to "where I want to be".
As they say, every journey begins with the first step. But I do say that while all the shtick around crazy diets and stuff is fun, if you are serious about this stuff, it is way more about finding something sustainable than it is about hopping on to the next great vegan, keto fad bus.
Congrats, I didn't fare as well. I grilled a 16oz steak and indulged in some IPAs putting me 449 cal over budget. Of course I lifted and did cardio in the morning that offset that amount exactly to keep me on goal pace of 2 lbs per week.
226.6 this morning, down 2.5 which
250 per day over my calorie goal. Based on 700 cal deficit to lose 2 lbs a weeks, I should be down a 1/2 pound
Exercise: 488 +3433 + 2530 = 6451 / 3500 = 1.9 pounds.
Yup...math adds up almost exactly. I had workout out hard Saturday/Sunday and ate well this weekend so I didn't have any freebie pounds coming into this.
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After not excercising for the past 3-4 years and being close tonthe highest I have ever weighed I decided to get up and start running before work. I ran 2 miles twice last week and 2 miles twice this week. Very frustrating because after 2 weeks I have gained 1 pound. It's not like I have been eating more either. 
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At any given time I probably have 3-5 clients facing decades to mandatory life in prison and yes.Terminalxylem said:
Look, I'm not tossing it out there as an excuse or suggesting, again, that my job is should take priority over everything. I chose the work and, frankly, if it means a couple years of my life get shaved off but I've saved a number of very possibly innocent people from wrongly being incarcerated for the rest of their lives then so be it. That said, I can do this job and still remain relatively healthy. But, consistent with what Otis is saying as well, there are some professions where one just can't quit at quitting time but quitting time really isn't a thing when there are emergencies, deadlines, unexpected fires or crises, billables to be met, etc. So, that makes the suggestion that I should structure my day around working out not one that I can take. I bring workout clothes with me to work every day and I genuinely want to use them. There are just days where that doesn't happen.
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