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Otis fad diet thread — yoga, fasting, and kevzilla walking on🚶‍♂️ (1 Viewer)

Wow.  Impressive.

Have fun backpacking!  My backpacking season might be over already as our mountains already have snow above 4000 feet!  I don't have the gear for snow camping or even cold-weather camping.
Thanks!  We are still having high temps over here but thankfully we are going to get a little cool down the next few days.  We were supposed to head out at lunch today but bear activity has convinced us to  start early tomorrow to get above 4K before we camp.

 
Good grief.   This isn't that difficult.  Both of you have enough excess weight that dropping 20 pounds should be easy.  just eat and drink less.  
I’m doing that. But this doesn’t happen overnight guy. I am doing this the right way. 2lbs per week is what’s expected here. No reason to deviate from that. If the progress is faster, great, but I won’t be discouraged if it’s not. 

 
Yesterday, gym in the morning, upper body workout. 
Coffee for breakfast 

salmon and greens at lunch

chicken breast and broccoli for dinner 

white wine spritzers on the couch with a piece of keto choc zero

up this morning at 5 for leg day 

Canceled my work lunch today and pushed it out two weeks so I can fast today. Won’t eat until tomorrow at dinner. 🤷‍♂️

 
I’m doing that. But this doesn’t happen overnight guy. I am doing this the right way. 2lbs per week is what’s expected here. No reason to deviate from that. If the progress is faster, great, but I won’t be discouraged if it’s not. 
You are doing that this minute.   Let's see what you are doing in a week.  Good luck.  

 
Started yesterday at 221 and weighed 227 at bedtime. Guess I over indulged on a salad, 350 cal micro meal, 350 cal omelet, and two potatoes and one glass of beet juice. Walked 3 miles too. This is getting frustrating 

 
Oh wait I forgot a period. 3.6 miles I mean. And got passed by some dude in at least his sixties. 

 
DocHolliday said:
You are doing that this minute.   Let's see what you are doing in a week.  Good luck.  
I’m in this for the long haul fella. I really love pumpkin baked goods. But I also am gonna love being beachfront heartthrob Otis come February in Puerto Rico. 

 
BassNBrew said:
Not enough 
You probably know this but for you or anybody else -

https://www.webmd.com/diet/sleep-and-weight-loss#1

"Too little sleep triggers a cortisol spike. This stress hormone signals your body to conserve energy to fuel your waking hours.

Translation: You’re more apt to hang on to fat.

Researchers found that when dieters cut back on sleep over a 14-day period, the amount of weight they lost from fat dropped by 55%, even though their calories stayed equal. They felt hungrier and less satisfied after meals, and their energy was zapped.

Sleep deprivation makes you “metabolically groggy," University of Chicago researchers say. Within just 4 days of insufficient ZZZs, your body’s ability to process insulin -- a hormone needed to change sugar, starches, and other food into energy -- goes awry. Insulin sensitivity, the researchers found, dropped by more than 30%."

@Otis - you may want to shoot for 12-14 hours

 
Explains a lot.  Otis is a high anxiety dude and often don't sleep all that well, up at night thinking about work stuff and then e-mailing in the middle of the night.

 
Explains a lot.  Otis is a high anxiety dude and often don't sleep all that well, up at night thinking about work stuff and then e-mailing in the middle of the night.
Diet, exercise, rest, and stress. It isn't one. It isn't some. It's all of them. 

 
You probably know this but for you or anybody else -

https://www.webmd.com/diet/sleep-and-weight-loss#1

"Too little sleep triggers a cortisol spike. This stress hormone signals your body to conserve energy to fuel your waking hours.

Translation: You’re more apt to hang on to fat.

Researchers found that when dieters cut back on sleep over a 14-day period, the amount of weight they lost from fat dropped by 55%, even though their calories stayed equal. They felt hungrier and less satisfied after meals, and their energy was zapped.

Sleep deprivation makes you “metabolically groggy," University of Chicago researchers say. Within just 4 days of insufficient ZZZs, your body’s ability to process insulin -- a hormone needed to change sugar, starches, and other food into energy -- goes awry. Insulin sensitivity, the researchers found, dropped by more than 30%."

@Otis - you may want to shoot for 12-14 hours
my body has always flipped out on extreme lack of sleep.  3-4 hours, or less of sleep, equals an insatiable hunger the next day.  it's something that i really need to focus on.  simply getting more sleep.

 
my body has always flipped out on extreme lack of sleep.  3-4 hours, or less of sleep, equals an insatiable hunger the next day.  it's something that i really need to focus on.  simply getting more sleep.
Yep - I’m still bad at it at times but after listening to that sleep specialist on Rogan’s podcast I’ve tried to do better.  Part of the problem is not sleeping is like a macho thing.  

I now just laugh at people that brag about “not needing sleep” or “not being lazy” or “I’ll sleep when I die” - yep, you will buddy and you’ll die sooner so you’ve got that going for you.

 
The downward spiral continues.
 

Downward in alcohol and junk food consumed, and in weight 

232.5
Clocked in at 232.5 again today after a long weekend of vacation indulgence.  Not bad.  Going to have a good weekend ahead back on schedule with keto, looking forward to seeing the 220s again.  That'll be a nice next milestone.

 
Clocked in at 232.5 again today after a long weekend of vacation indulgence.  Not bad.  Going to have a good weekend ahead back on schedule with keto, looking forward to seeing the 220s again.  That'll be a nice next milestone.
218.2 this morning.  Flucuating all over the place  Was as high as 227 two nights ago.

@Otis - What's the end game in our bet?  Consecutive days (2-7?) 20 pounds lighter?  I assume sitting in the sauna doing a cut and then bloating back up 10 pounds the next day isn't the route we want to go?

 
BassNBrew said:
218.2 this morning.  Flucuating all over the place  Was as high as 227 two nights ago.

@Otis - What's the end game in our bet?  Consecutive days (2-7?) 20 pounds lighter?  I assume sitting in the sauna doing a cut and then bloating back up 10 pounds the next day isn't the route we want to go?
Totally your call. You're going to beat me, I have no doubt.  But whatever rules you want.  I'm doing this "for real," not just to skate below the cutoff for a day.  For me, 20 pounds lost would be a huge huge accomplishment, but still a good 10lbs from where I probably want to be.  So, whatever you say, I'm game. 

 
It's Friday night, and while I did crack some red wine tonight to celebrate, I haven't had anything unhealthy or non keto.  Except one piece of popcorn.  One.  And it was like angels dancing on my lips. 

ETA: The real accomplishment here is that along with the chicken and vegetables my wife ordered me, FROM THE PIZZA PLACE, she ordered some amazing pizza for the kids.  In the past on a Friday night?  I destroy 4 slices, easy.  And then I proceed to those awesome looking pumpkin donuts looking at me from the counter.

Tonight?  Red wine, sure.  And almonds. And cheese and cheese crisps.  Sigh.

 
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It's Friday night, and while I did crack some red wine tonight to celebrate, I haven't had anything unhealthy or non keto.  Except one piece of popcorn.  One.  And it was like angels dancing on my lips. 
:lol:   I had half of a potato chip a couple of weeks ago.  It was glorious.  And tracking everything as strictly as I'm forcing myself to do, I logged it, too.

 
232.1

Aside, note to Friday Night Otis: bad idea to drink a bunch of red wine when you're not eating much and only eating protein.  Morning Otis would appreciate you sticking with the Select 55's.

 
Day 1. I’m fat. 265.6.  Not sure how I’m going to go about this yet. Did go for a hike last weekend and have one planned for tomorrow. 
 

I drink a lot of soda which will be the first thing I cut out. Sometimes I go days without drinking water so this part won’t be easy.

 
Gave in to temptation, eh?
I had a bag of Ruffles All Dressed, Buffalo Bills branded, Ontario only chips that I had been saving for some unknown, far-off victory. 

My sister in laws snot nose brat opened them yesterday. Eating a handful and then throwing the rest of the bag away was tougher than quitting smoking.

 
Had some success with the potato diet while in Peru a couple of years back but it's really monotonous. In the mean tine my girls have turned pescatarian (eats veggies+fish on occasion) so I've had to learn to cook vegetarian food (I don't like fish).

So today I wokked some veggies (green beans, leek, onions, spring onions and grated carrots), when done added a bit if soy for umami and added some cous cous made with vegetable stock, a squeeze of lemon and a spoon of sour cream. The original dish called for a grilled chicken breast on the side and the whole thing was supposed to be less than 400 calories oer serving. I skipped the chicken breast and it was glorious nonetheless.

I'd definitely be able to go on a calorie restriction diet of only veggies and have healthy balanced meals the whole time.

Now I just need to install my TRX setup and I'm good to go

ETA don't own a scale and don't plan to buy one. In no way shape or form will I ever drink Bud Select 55s or similar products instead of homebrew

 
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Today's vegetarian feast

A version of Shepard's Pie without the lamb but instead garbanzo beans in a thick vegetable filled tomato stew/broth.

Onion, leek, green beans, bell pepper, chili, garlic was diced and sauteed. Garbanzo's in their own broth added as was a can of diced tomato, some cumin, paprika, salt and pepper, adding frozen peas and corn at tge end when the broth had thickened.

Boiled potatoes was bruised is a bit of butter with salt and pepper in a pan over high heat and was used as the top layer (about 1/3 of the height) in the portion bowls that got 25 minutes at 400F

Effing great! 

The original serving (incl lean beef) was under 400 calories, this must be way less. Easy peasy

 
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How are all you food eaters doing today?

Me?  Oh, fine, thanks for asking. Drank only water last night. At the gym at 5 this morning.  Leg day tomorrow at 5. Won’t eat another meal till tomorrow around dinner hour. NBD 

 
As already mentioned I took a hiatus from OPERATION SIX PACK to go play in the woods for a few days.  Had a great time - saw 3 black bears, 1 snake, 2 (dos) bats who slept in the shelter with us and one mouse who wouldn't stop messing with a plastic bag all night.  I need to get over to the hiking thread and post a write-up soon but I'll post my snippet from the 10k thread below about the work I put in.

Anyway, back at it today.  I ate a crap ton of calories while out on the trail.  Lugging 30-35 pounds on your back for 3 straight days requires some fuel.

I still lost weight though while I was gone.

160.4

LET'S GO!!!!!

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Went up to the Appalachian Trail again but went backpacking this time for 3 days/2 nights.  First day was hot, middle day was brilliant and relatively cool and then last night was kind of cold up on one of the mountains and then got rain/drizzle overnight and throughout today.

Now it wasn't running but I got a hell of a 3-day workout.

Day 1 - 13.86 miles; 3,353 ft. elevation; 6h 9m; 38,475 Steps; 219 floors

Day 2 - 15.61 miles; 4,305 ft. elevation; 6h 42m; 41,373 Steps; 276 floors

Day 3 - 11.14 miles; 2,507 ft. elevation; 4h 28m; 30,184 Steps; 198 floors

Total - 40.61 miles; 10,165 ft. elevation; 17h 19m; 110,032 Steps; 693 floors

 
Today's vegetarian feast

A version of Shepard's Pie without the lamb but instead garbanzo beans in a thick vegetable filled tomato stew/broth.

Onion, leek, green beans, bell pepper, chili, garlic was diced and sauteed. Garbanzo's in their own broth added as was a can of diced tomato, some cumin, paprika, salt and pepper, adding frozen peas and corn at tge end when the broth had thickened.

Boiled potatoes was bruised is a bit of butter with salt and pepper in a pan over high heat and was used as the top layer (about 1/3 of the height) in the portion bowls that got 25 minutes at 400F

Effing great! 

The original serving (incl lean beef) was under 400 calories, this must be way less. Easy peasy
Both the meals you posted sound delicious but they also sound time consuming and I'm guessing you know what you are doing in the kitchen.  I don't and don't have a lot of time.  Any vegetarian quick meals you'd recommend?

I'm not planning to go vegetarian but I like experimenting and I enjoy vegetables and non-meat food items.

 
Totally your call. You're going to beat me, I have no doubt.  But whatever rules you want.  I'm doing this "for real," not just to skate below the cutoff for a day.  For me, 20 pounds lost would be a huge huge accomplishment, but still a good 10lbs from where I probably want to be.  So, whatever you say, I'm game. 
I'm not so sure.  My body seems to be holding on to every ounce for dear life.  The 10+ years I have on you seem to be an equalizer.

Congrats on being being serious about this.  I'm in the same boat where 20 would be huge and I would be still be 5-10 away from my optimum weight.  I've been targeting 1800 calories this time rather than 800-1200 so I'm not dropping like the past contest.  Taking a slow and steady approach which isn't the best for "winning".  I've also been lifting which is counter productive in dropping weight short term.  Lastly I have a could of races in the next 5 weeks and need to be fully fueled for them.

Since I want this target weight to hold, I won't officially declare 20 pounds lost until I weigh in 4 times over a course of a 7 day period and all four weigh-ins are showing a loss of 20 pounds or more.  I could easily drop 5 pounds of water at the gym on any given day which defeats the real goal.  

 
271.6.  I went up.  Did nothing different, well behaved.  Worked all day Saturday on the house and yard, I don't get it.  No matter, could just be water.  Just in case I added some incline walking on the treadmill this morning to the biking I have been doing.  Clearly I need to do more and so I am.  Also planning to hit the gym over lunch, nothing major, just a bit to start working that back in.

 
I'm not so sure.  My body seems to be holding on to every ounce for dear life.  The 10+ years I have on you seem to be an equalizer.

Congrats on being being serious about this.  I'm in the same boat where 20 would be huge and I would be still be 5-10 away from my optimum weight.  I've been targeting 1800 calories this time rather than 800-1200 so I'm not dropping like the past contest.  Taking a slow and steady approach which isn't the best for "winning".  I've also been lifting which is counter productive in dropping weight short term.  Lastly I have a could of races in the next 5 weeks and need to be fully fueled for them.

Since I want this target weight to hold, I won't officially declare 20 pounds lost until I weigh in 4 times over a course of a 7 day period and all four weigh-ins are showing a loss of 20 pounds or more.  I could easily drop 5 pounds of water at the gym on any given day which defeats the real goal.  
Sounds good.  Heck, why don’t we say a full week of weigh-ins below the cutoff?  I’m also lifting, and while I’m doing some of the fasting stuff, that’s not as a short term solution but something I’d like to carry forward longer term.  I’m also not completely cutting out indulgences—still having some booze, but far more moderate; still having a cheat day each weekend so far to eat whatever tf I want.  So I’m also not doing an optimal race to the bottom here.  Just trying to get a whole lot healthier than I’ve been.  I’m fine with it taking a little longer to arrive at something that sticks.  

 
PS Soda is the devil.  I don’t know how you folks can guzzle that sludge all day.  It’s no wonder Americans hit these outrageously high weights, and I have to imagine an enormous cause is soda.  Even diet soda, which is fine on occasion I guess, is just canned chemicals.  I guess we all have our vices, but man, talk about something that thankfully never has interested me.  

Erryone pls stop drinking cola, kthx 

 
271.6.  I went up.  Did nothing different, well behaved.  Worked all day Saturday on the house and yard, I don't get it.  No matter, could just be water.  Just in case I added some incline walking on the treadmill this morning to the biking I have been doing.  Clearly I need to do more and so I am.  Also planning to hit the gym over lunch, nothing major, just a bit to start working that back in.
You've been doing great so you probably just need to be patient but I will caution - since I know you lost a decent amount and want to lose more you obviously were pretty overweight like I was - that a lot of exercise may not be the best way to go about this.  Try and get your diet pristine and then mix in lots of walking is my recommendation.  Sometimes the working out can work against you.

 
PS Soda is the devil.  I don’t know how you folks can guzzle that sludge all day.  It’s no wonder Americans hit these outrageously high weights, and I have to imagine an enormous cause is soda.  Even diet soda, which is fine on occasion I guess, is just canned chemicals.  I guess we all have our vices, but man, talk about something that thankfully never has interested me.  

Erryone pls stop drinking cola, kthx
Thanks for the warning BudSelect55Luver!

 
But you aren't wrong Otis.  I just find it funny that all of us (me included) see the problems with the diet of others but then rationalize our own diet.  And again, I do this all the time.  Having said that drinking a lot of soda is a pretty obvious one that almost all of us can agree is a bad idea.

 
You've been doing great so you probably just need to be patient but I will caution - since I know you lost a decent amount and want to lose more you obviously were pretty overweight like I was - that a lot of exercise may not be the best way to go about this.  Try and get your diet pristine and then mix in lots of walking is my recommendation.  Sometimes the working out can work against you.
My diet has been very clean for 100 days.  At this point it is not a diet, just a new way of eating.  I suppose I could go to unflavored yogurt in the morning as no doubt there are sugars in the "light" yogurt I eat in the morning, but damn, plain, unsweetened yogurt is harsh. As for the gym, a half hour or so will be all the time I have over lunch.  Hardly working hard or "a lot".  Just something to fire the metabolism up a bit mid day for a sedentary office worker. We will see how it goes the next 100 days and then have to re-evaluate.

 
You've been doing great so you probably just need to be patient but I will caution - since I know you lost a decent amount and want to lose more you obviously were pretty overweight like I was - that a lot of exercise may not be the best way to go about this.  Try and get your diet pristine and then mix in lots of walking is my recommendation.  Sometimes the working out can work against you.
:goodposting:

I find that when I work out, my weight is elevated for a couple of days. Don't let that discourage you or push you of track. You're doing things right.

 
My diet has been very clean for 100 days.  At this point it is not a diet, just a new way of eating.  I suppose I could go to unflavored yogurt in the morning as no doubt there are sugars in the "light" yogurt I eat in the morning, but damn, plain, unsweetened yogurt is harsh. As for the gym, a half hour or so will be all the time I have over lunch.  Hardly working hard or "a lot".  Just something to fire the metabolism up a bit mid day for a sedentary office worker. We will see how it goes the next 100 days and then have to re-evaluate.
Good to hear.  Being patient and going another 100 days seems like a good plan.  You are a wise man and obviously love your family - you got lots of reasons to stick to it and we know you will.

Some other things to consider might be intermittent fasting, whole day fasting or an apple/can of tuna (PM Otis for details).

 
Good to hear.  Being patient and going another 100 days seems like a good plan.  You are a wise man and obviously love your family - you got lots of reasons to stick to it and we know you will.

Some other things to consider might be intermittent fasting, whole day fasting or an apple/can of tuna (PM Otis for details).
Fasting is problematic for a diabetic.  It would complicate my medications.  I can re-evaluate my portion sizes at dinner.  I am certain I still consume too much meat at dinner.

 
Sounds good.  Heck, why don’t we say a full week of weigh-ins below the cutoff?  I’m also lifting, and while I’m doing some of the fasting stuff, that’s not as a short term solution but something I’d like to carry forward longer term.  I’m also not completely cutting out indulgences—still having some booze, but far more moderate; still having a cheat day each weekend so far to eat whatever tf I want.  So I’m also not doing an optimal race to the bottom here.  Just trying to get a whole lot healthier than I’ve been.  I’m fine with it taking a little longer to arrive at something that sticks.  
I travel many weekends so weighing in can be a problem.  How about 5 weigh-ins over an 8 day period.  One on day one, one on day eight, and the two others whenever you like.  That will span a week long time period and we won't have to travel with the scale if we travel for a couple of days.  If any of the five weigh-ins are over the target, then you start the weighing process over.

 
Both the meals you posted sound delicious but they also sound time consuming and I'm guessing you know what you are doing in the kitchen.  I don't and don't have a lot of time.  Any vegetarian quick meals you'd recommend?

I'm not planning to go vegetarian but I like experimenting and I enjoy vegetables and non-meat food items.
The shepards pie is essentially veggies chopped up with a can of tomatoes, a can of garbanzos, and some leftover potatoes with lots of spices - to make decent vegetarian foods yoy have to know your spices, certainly more than just salt and pepper. You don't have to finish it in the oven, but it improves it quite a bit.

The cous cous dish is even faster and simpler. Chop vegetables, wok for max ten minutes, while you do that you pour hot broth over the cous cous, mix. Less than 20 minutes from ingredients in the fridge to to finger lickin' food

I do know my way around a kitchen, but that is more in terms of knowing which ingredients will add to the greatness of the flavor and which can be substituted - as well as which spices I like. I'm by no means a fast chopper or know techniques that will cut cooking times. I try to make things from scratch, but  that's mainly to avoid preservation chemicals if I can. E.g. I do my own garbanzos rather than using canned but couldn't be arsed to do the tomatoes from scratch.

Probably not going to post recipes for the next ten days - going with my two vegetarian daughters to Italy, but I'm sure that'll give me some inspiration

 
Made it through the weekend with no soda. Headache is gone. If I make it through the week I’ll say I’ve officially quit the soda and will start making other changes in my diet. I’ll always be a food eater so won’t be doing 2 day fasts. Also did a 5 mile hike yesterday. 

 

 
How are all you food eaters doing today?

Me?  Oh, fine, thanks for asking. Drank only water last night. At the gym at 5 this morning.  Leg day tomorrow at 5. Won’t eat another meal till tomorrow around dinner hour. NBD 
How long are you spending at the gym with each visit? 

 

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